A-portaling we shall go, a-portaling we shall go…

Getting mighty crowded in there:

Lots of action, though.  Dan Mullen is out there somewhere saying to himself, “man, we could’a been a contendah this year”…

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61 responses to “A-portaling we shall go, a-portaling we shall go…

  1. Hogbody Spradlin

    I can’t help but think those numbers will decline in a couple of years after everybody gets used to the situation, and after a few juicy stories of players who chose poorly.

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    • Bulldawg Bill

      The poorest choice was going to the portal and not getting picked up at all. Do these guys realize that that’s a distinct possibility? Do guys that get picked up KNOW they will be picked up and if so, does that constitute tampering?????

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      • Texas Dawg

        I heard that same question raised on ESPNU yesterday. I can’t remember the player but he entered the portal one day and was transferring to the school the very next day. He had not taken a visit. They wondered how could you make all that happen in less than 24hrs unless there had been prior communication. Apparently the player had no previous KNOWN connection to the school or coach. The people playing intermediary on these deals are now the new bagmen.

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        • SouthsideDawg

          It’s my understanding that coaches are allowed to recruit players after they’ve entered the portal. That doesn’t mean that players can’t contact coaching staffs on their own prior to entering the portal. Is this correct?

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          • Texas Dawg

            Maybe I’m wrong, but thought until they officially enter the portal, they are not supposed to have contact with other schools no matter who initiated the contact. Once in the portal, then game on.

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            • Biggen

              I don’t believe you are wrong. Coaches are not allowed to talk to perspective players from other teams before they are in the portal.

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      • originaluglydawg

        Of course some of them know they’re going to be picked up and by whom.
        Is it tampering? That’s going to be iffy forever. If they reached out to the school first, that’s one thing. I’d say there are “middle men” that do the contact laundering. Laundrymen… It’s going to be hard to prove and I doubt it’s even worth trying to police it. It would be like policing speeding on I-285.

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      • Biggen

        No, players/coaches from differing teams are not allowed to communicate with one another before players enter the portal.

        That is why Caleb Williams said after entering the portal: The only way I can speak with other schools and see who may offer the best preparation and development for my future career is by entering the portal.

        All we are doing is enabling free agency at this point. If that is what the designers of the portal intended, then its a feature and not a bug.

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        • Biggen

          That should have been a blockquote.

          The only way I can speak with other schools and see who may offer the best preparation and development for my future career is by entering the portal.

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    • Texas Dawg

      I saw the stats last year (could not find the link) of the aftermath of the portal. It was a LARGE number of players (around 1/2 is what sticks in my head) that wound up at a lower level, JC, or no longer enrolled. Sometimes that green grass is over the septic tank.

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      • Bulldawg Bill

        “Sometimes that green grass is over the septic tank.”
        Well done, Tex!

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      • Derek

        You don’t think a lot of that is roster management? Kids looking at having their scholarships pulled for the next season and trying to find a landing spot is my guess on a lot of those.

        If there is a downside to the portal, it’s that roster management is now easier and more guilt free.

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        • Texas Dawg

          This falls under the be careful what you wish for category. I’m sure there is roster management going on for some. Ego for some (I’m a starter but I’m not THE MAN). There is tampering going on for others. Some are just self aware and realize that while they would maintain their scholarship they are buried on the depth chart and will be just a talented back up if they stay. Brini comes to mind. Others have me scratching my head (unless there is tampering). Kimber most likely would have been the starting corner opposite Ringo next year. The only reason he was not starting this year was injury/surgery. When I saw he was going in the portal, I figured he was homesick and headed back to Texas (DFW metroplex and mommas cooking is a long way from Athens). When he wound up taking a step down to the TURDS, it had me scratching my head. I’ve read something about a coach relationship with the new staff in Hogtown? What could be better though than to be the starting cornerback on the defending NC that is known for it’s defense and has put a LOT of DB’s in the NFL?

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      • Whiskey Dawg

        Hilarious

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  2. Hogbody Spradlin

    Ole Miss losing 17 guys since August? Wut?

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    • originaluglydawg

      Yeah..I wonder if that’s “roster management”.
      The portal is like a big old salad bar that coaches like Junior can browse and pick what they need and want on their plate.
      And as Bulldawg Bill said, NIL money is the salad dressing.

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  3. How many of these guys are finding a new home better than their old home? I’m a supporter of the 1-time transfer rule, but a lot of student-athletes are getting bad advice. I get that you want to play, you want more stats and you want an NIL deal. Eventually that desire runs up against the reality that you’re in the portal for a reason.

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    • Biggen

      Better is subjective, but over half of them in the portal don’t have a new home at all so I guess at least 50% are not better. There will be lots of more additions to the portal too before summer starts.

      I’m not a fan of this portal at all in its current version.

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      • originaluglydawg

        I imagine the better players that go in the portal have an “arrangement”.
        In fact, we’d probably all bet on it.

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        • Biggen

          I’m sure they do but it’s officially against the rules if coaches are doing it via backchannels before a player is in the portal. But the NCAA takes years to do anything so its the wild west right now.

          Most 4/5* players will find a home regardless of “cheating”. Especially the 5* guys. They know they have all the leverage.

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  4. spur21

    LOL “man, we could’a been a contendah this year”

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    • James A Mercer Jr

      Don’t you know Demetreis Robinson is kicking himself over his transfer to Auburn?? UGA got into passes more than in the past and he was a known quantity in a (early on) depleted receiving corps. Sometimes you win, somtimes you lose!

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  5. Remember the Quincy

    This is excellent. God bless our new and improved sport! Now if we can just get that playoff expanded, this will truly be the best sport there is.

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  6. mp

    I think the combination of the novelty of the portal and the extra covid year of eligibility has led to this glut and will lead to a whole bunch of athletes losing spots.

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  7. classiccitycanine

    Bunch of tut-tutters in here wagging their fingers at players this morning. I’m 100% in favor of the portal. It will work itself out eventually.

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    • Let’s be fair classic, many of us have been tut-tutting about this from the beginning. 🙂 As for “It will work itself out eventually. “, I’m not sure that’s a great game plan for fundamentally changing the largest college sport in the nation. I really believe instead of working itself out, we’re headed for a total sh%tshow that’s going to involve major intervention by governing bodies in an attempt to reign in the madness. Then the sh%tshow may devolve into something even worse. Just my two cents, and worth about two cents.

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      • classiccitycanine

        Yeah, and the tut-tutters have been wrong from the beginning. I could go into all the reasons why, but I’ll restrain myself to saying it’s not your job to prevent players from making a bad transfer decision–especially since the players have no say in the rules in the first place. I think they’ll eventually create transfer windows to impose some order in the process, FWIW.

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        • In your opinion, we’ve been wrong from the beginning. In actuality, you have no data or supporting argument to prove that and the facts remain that we have no idea how this will play out. A&M has shown us that the highest bidding NIL’s will pull in the best classes & I’m pretty sure the same holds true for the portal. It is a literal free agency for professional athletes when it comes to 4 & 5 stars and I’m not sure how you can convince me that a 2nd professional league is a great idea. The players who benefit are not the problem. They’d be nuts to turn down the money being thrown at them. The problem is there are zero controls or boundaries to the boosters & schools. If this continues down this path, we may have total chaos on all campuses, especially with respect to the ability to transfer at any time during the year. What if a team loses a game & 20 players decide to leave because they can’t win the championship & they want a head start on finding a new place. You say you think they’ll create transfer windows…so what you’re saying is, this is bad the way they made the rules but they’ll probably fix it. Not a good way to legislate anything

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          • James A Mercer Jr

            Re the new pro league…you’re probably too young to recall the old AFL which evolving into the AFC in the NFL; and the USFL which brought Herschel into pro ball along with many others getting top money; and its demise, and the reboot with several other strart ups and failures but players got some money and experience (re the European NFL) so we’ll just see how the new USFL does. anyway, it’s football…to some degree!!

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  8. David K

    Anyone’s guess as to what Jalen Kimber was thinking? He was going to start and/or play tons this year before getting injured, we’ve got a very thin secondary and he looked to be a lock to hold down one of the corner positions next year. Why leave for the Gators?

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    • Ran A

      Ton of young talent behind him. He may have been watching practices (remember he was hurt) and felt like it was going to be a battle to start. That is all I can figure. A player can go anywhere and it really doesn’t bother me – unless it’s UF. The kid is from Texas, so it may not seem like the same leap to him.

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      • Derek

        If you aren’t a really great player its gotta be stressful knowing Kirby is trying to find a better player than you 24/7/365. And he’s not afraid to use him.

        I would imagine the addition of Kendrick chapped some asses among the cornerbacks that had been in the program and thought they’d have a shot at a spot opposite Ringo.

        If he’s not finding your better in a high school somewhere, he’s dipping into the portal. Either way your position on the depth chart is never certain.

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        • miltondawg

          Yeah. Imagine being BVG, Beck, Stetson, and now Stockton and seeing reports that Caleb Williams might be interested in coming to Athens. I don’t know why Williams would want to come to Athens, but if you’re already in that QB room that can’t make you feel good about 2022.

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        • jcdawg83

          If a player doesn’t want to compete for his starting position the entire time he is playing he should go to a team that has no aspirations of greatness, somewhere like tech or Vandy. Every coach of every program that wants to win a championship of any kind is constantly looking for better talent than what he currently has.

          A coach trying to build a team out of the portal is on a fool’s errand. He is picking up players that were not the best player at their position on their previous team and expecting them to be able to beat the best on other teams. Brenton Cox is the poster boy for the transfer portal. He was a 5 star recruit, incredible physical talent but couldn’t win the starting job in Athens because of attitude and work ethic. Went to UF, won the starting job on talent but the attitude and work ethic problems showed up when he was in live action in the games and it really mattered. There is a reason players who go into the portal aren’t getting playing time on their current team.

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        • stoopnagle

          The thing is, Napier is going to do the same thing. He’s not Mullen. But, Kimber is probably going straight to the top of the depth chart there… it’ll take Napier time to build depth.

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    • Don’t discount that the coaching staff knows something and politely suggested he move on. Choosing UF could be how he says “told you so”.

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  9. Cain’t tell the players without a scorecard.

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  10. Gaskilldawg

    The focus of the comments here are how foolish the players are. Those comments do not take into account players in the portal because their coaches told them it is their best option. Those coaches recruited over the players and now want their scholarships. Remember the pre-portal days when a lot of commentators praised Saban for how he “processed” players out to make room for incoming 5 stars? The portal is a new tool for coaches to “process” the roster.
    I have no idea how many players are in the because they were “processed” there and how many just made bad decisions, but we should not assume every kid who went into the portal and did not go to Oklahoma or LSU or wherever just made a bad decision.

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    • Biggen

      This was probably one of the primary reasons the portal was created and it’s a good reason I admit. Unfortunately, there are always unintended side effects to anything.

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    • originaluglydawg

      Go back and re read.
      “Roster management” is a reference to pressuring a kid into the portal to redeem his scholarship for re-cycling.

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  11. cpark58

    2 thoughts of the offseason:

    I wonder how often coaches encourage lesser players to portal to free up scholarships.

    I wonder how the transfer portal looks if the system allowed for schools to set aside a percentage of the revenue for each class each year to be paid out upon graduation. You transfer and you can enter the new schools pool but waive your accrued funds from previous school. A junior transfer would only be eligible for 2 years of revenue at new school vs 4 at previous. It would obviously work out for players like Jermaine Johnson who no doubt upped his draft stock but may control the mass portal chaos.

    Would never happen but I wonder how that would look.

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  12. theorginaldawgabides

    A good number of kids listed as being in the portal are walk ons, which kind of skews the numbers. If they are not scholarship players, it doesn’t really matter. They’re really just changing schools and trying to walk on the team there.

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  13. Kiffen, Pittman and Harsin…ouch!

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  14. jdawg108

    Apparently JT is gone.

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    • spur21

      Can’t blame him with the talent in the QB room. Bigger question – what is SB going to do? He has the option of going out as a legend or possibly being passed over and becoming a footnote.

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      • David K

        Easy now, he’ll never be a footnote. But he could definitely take a little of the shine off the end of his career by coming back and not playing as well or having to hold the clipboard all season for BVG.

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      • He’ll never be a footnote.

        Pass the pipe.

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      • Stetson Bennett, whom I wanted replaced all season, is an absolute legend in GA football history, up there with Buck & Lindsey and many others. His legend will never tarnish or lose it’s shine to me no matter what the future holds. He made the clutch plays in the most pressure filled moments of the biggest game imaginable & brought my school a championship that I didn’t believe I would see happen again! I love me some Stetson Bennett!! Whatever he does from this point forward is okay in my book!

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  15. originaluglydawg

    The current roster building apparatus reminds me of the little booth people stand in with money flying around them as they try to grab as much as they can before a buzzer sounds.
    I hope this is all a temporary tempest and it all settles down in another year.
    But if it doesn’t, it’s going to cause some serious messes.
    The law of unintended consequences is real.
    With NIL money, hidden and almost in your face tampering and roster management all competing with a player’s true need and desire to move himself to a better situation, the portal is a siren song (in many..too many cases).

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  16. spur21

    Portal is good for players when there is a coaching change – especially if the new staff has a very different system.

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  17. I’ll miss the days of players building a career and lore at a program. Hello one and done guns for hire.

    I’ve gotta give it to Saban and Bama- they have done a much better job at keeping players and coaches around and that looks to be the biggest contributor to their dynasty. We’re about to find out if Kirby is close to Saban or if he’ll fall off like Chizik and Orgeron. Looks like he’s got his work cut out for him.

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  18. Texas Dawg

    The one EASY change to the portal that would help is to make it defined period. From day X to day Y you can enter the portal with no restrictions. If you chose to transfer outside of that defined period then you have to sit out.

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    • Russ

      Yes, this needs to happen. They should do this for all recruiting visits and signing as well. Enforce some “down time” for both coaches and players.

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