Making things better

In light of Kirby Smart’s comments about his college football concerns, I thought Finebaum, of all people, posed an interesting question with this:

Throw NIL regulation into the mix, while you’re at it.  If you were in charge, which of the three would you prioritize, why and how would you go about doing it?  (By the way, with regard to the last question, try to be realistic about that.  Making a proposal that would violate antitrust law, for example, isn’t much of a suggestion.)

Have at it in the comments.

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58 responses to “Making things better

  1. Dawg in Austin

    No gripes here with the current rules and structure, let it be. I’d only speed up the infractions process and specify what punishment attaches to the breaking of which rule.

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  2. Playoff Expansion- stopping it. Clemson players’ objection to playing an additional game or 2 is legit. It also doesn’t fix the “problem” that college football is a sport where different regions value it differently and pursue a relatively small number of elite athletes. Personally, I thought Ga was one of the top 4 teams in 2018 and 2019 and should have been given a playoff invite. But, I never supported expanding the playoffs to get us in.

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  3. stoopnagle

    I’d change the recruiting calendar and include the portal as part of it. Spread dates of significant events out across the year.

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    • Dawg in Austin

      Good one. I also like the idea of having “transfer windows” during the year. Preferably from after the regular season ends until March 1, then again from May 1 to August 1.

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    • JoeDashDawg

      I think the schools will force their way back to a solo signing day in the spring. Too many schools having to flush a season down the drain by firing coaches mid-season to salvage a recruiting class by December.

      NIL will be fine, will probably be an interesting few years. Ed: Note- do they sell Milo’s Sweet Tea in Oregon? I kid… but after Spencer Rattler, JT Daniels and DJ U from Clemson fell far from the pre-season hype, you wonder if some of these mega deals for players will be a little less widespread. At least Dr. Pepper got a starter out of it.

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      • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

        I don’t like NIL deals as a recruiting tool, but I do think that the market will solve this over time. Some kids will suck up to a bad team over a recruiting deal, but then not develop and miss out on a pro career. And some people will get burned by spending big on a kid that flames out, and will become more selective over time. There’s kind of a manic gold rush about it right now, but that’s because it’s new.

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  4. I would start with the transfer portal. I like the one-time free transfer plus the grad transfer rule. The tampering that appears to be going on needs to be stopped. The penalties for tampering need to be significant for both the school and the athlete.

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    • classiccitycanine

      I just don’t know how you prove tampering.

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    • biggusrickus

      The NCAA trying to enforce tampering rules will be about as arbitrary as their enforcement of player compensation. You’d have to be utterly brazen about it to ever be punished, and everyone will continue to do it on the sly otherwise.

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      • originaluglydawg

        Yep. Enforcement of tampering will be arbitrary.
        Do you believe Ohio State tampered with Fields while he was still at UGA?
        I do. It may have been subtle and done through a third or deeper party, but I think it happened. (Yeah, he was gone either way, but there was a catalyst in all likelyhood).
        It’s a huge problem that’s here to stay because you can’t take NIL away now.
        NILvid-19.
        You can’t stop it. You can’t even contain it. But schools with wealthy boosters and alumni will love it.
        As I said yesterday, it’s going to be like trying to stop speeding (and just plain reckless driving) on I-285. You might catch one out of five hundred on a good day, but you won’t make a dent in the problem.

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  5. gastr1

    I do think it’s most important to get the movement of players and coaches a little more minimized….I agree re: what Kirby said and cannot imagine the insane amount of time it takes to be a successful college coach. The salaries are ginormous, yeah, but most people have a limit to where the money isn’t going to matter because what they’re asked to do just isn’t worth it.

    My suggestion would be to require that players who enter the portal not be allowed to return to the original program, and that both entering the transfer portal and recruiting signing day be moved to after the season ends (and the portal limited to entering and deciding within that same period). That will return it to coaches not getting fired until the end of the season again. Interested in others’ ideas about this…

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    • Bulldawg Bill

      “I do think it’s most important to get the movement of players… a little more minimized…”

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      • Bulldawg Bill

        “I do think it’s most important to get the movement of players… a little more minimized…”
        Sorry! So make all NIL deals contingent upon graduating/completing 3 or 4 years of eligibility. Since the money seems to be an inducement to attend a particular school anyway, make the school a party to the contract. That’ll dry up a lot of those transfers. YMMV, of course!!!

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  6. I know I’m going to get clubbed like a baby seal for this, but my generation loved mosh pits instead of “safe spaces”…so let’s do this

    I would try to create a better structure around NIL. With the lofty goal of trying to curb and contain the boosters, I’d want a standard set of rules, establishing uniformity for every school in every division.
    Limit the transfer portal: players can only transfer once, but are immediately eligible. Coaches and Universities caught tampering get fined and lose a scholarship for each tampering violation.
    CFP expansion…not a priority for me…but for the ACC, the PAC12, and the Big12, it should be

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    • classiccitycanine

      What would you do to limit NIL that isn’t an anti-trust violation?

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      • Fair question and a slippery slope…without a monopoly acting as the arbitrator, antitrust would be hard to circumnavigate.

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      • Russ

        This is the big question and I’m not sure there’s an easy answer. But they need to figure something out.

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      • miltondawg

        Thankfully I am not an anti-trust lawyer, so answering the NIL question is tough. NIL would be my priority right after quashing playoff expansion once and for all by executive order. I am 100% for NIL. That being said, something doesn’t sit right with me about situations like the business in south Florida paying each Miami player a set dollar figure each year or the nonprofit in Texas paying each scholarship offensive lineman at Texas $50,000 per year for use of their name, image or likeness to support charitable causes. Again, before I get killed for saying that, I am for NIL but like many things having it as an unrestricted free-for-fall seems problematic long term.

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        • JoeDashDawg

          Yeah, the blanket NIL for groups seems to be the most ripe for both abuse and limiting. I believe the rules still say that you can’t use NIL as an enticement. Now proving that schools are using those deals as an enticement will probably be difficult, though obvious to most everyone. (X recruit told me that Texas said I would get $_____ to sign) Would that be enough? I’m sure the schools are smart enough to keep those conversations out of public records. (Not to mention everyone is doing it)

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  7. Robert (Jeff)rey Wolford

    Signing Day and the Transfer Portal should be synchronized, IMO. This way any Signing Day surprises or misses can be addressed by a transfer. There are a lot of details that would go into what I just suggested, and it’s too long a discussion for me to address here.

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    • Robert (Jeff)rey Wolford

      ANd the NIL issue is much too large an issue for the NCAA, IMO. Federal legislation or require that every state’s laws rules be the same. Yeah, that’s a BIG THING.

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      • originaluglydawg

        NIL is going (has already) had some unfortunate impact on CFB. It’s also done some good. Will the bad outweigh the good? Yep. But I don’t think it’s legal or right to tell someone they can’t make honest money off of their own NIL. I believe it’s a person’s right. I don’t think it can be changed now. But it’s going to cause problems.
        I don’t think reversing NIL will work or even be legal.
        But tweaking the transfer portal to make tampering and just unbridled transferring (whimsical transferring) a lot tougher may help bring some stability back to roster management.
        How to tweak it is the big question (to me).

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  8. biggusrickus

    The portal regulation would be the top priority if I were basing it on Smart’s concerns. I assume we’re talking about his comments about losing good coaches because of the constant grind. To that end, I’d designate open transfer periods of one month in December and July, to allow for spring and fall enrollment. It’s also the one thing you can practically control. I can’t even begin to imagine how you’d regulate NIL deals. If you allow them at all, what grounds do you have to say what is and isn’t a proper deal between a business and a player for advertising or merchandising? I’m not even sure what problem playoff expansion is supposed to solve unless you think schools and conferences aren’t making enough money.

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  9. voxdawg

    Having a designated transfer portal window at the end of the regular season and again after spring ball would seem to make the most sense. I get it that HCs at this level get paid the big bucks for a reason, but putting them in a position where they must constantly recruit their own players on campus for fear of their bolting to the Portal seems to be too much of an ask.

    Letting kids make their decision between both Signing Days and again after spring practice, should they see the writing on the wall would be a reasonable measure, IMO.

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  10. KornDawg

    Whichever proposal keeps florida irrelevant is the one I’m for.

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  11. Holiday Inn Bagman

    If stability is the desire the simplest answer is let them unionize and pay them. They’ll give up some things that will produce more stability for the sport in exchange for getting paid which is what they deserve. It will never happen.

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  12. ASEF

    Playoff expansion is probably the biggest danger to what I enjoy most about college football. It’s also fake marketing juice and a lazy solution to prop up the Bowlsbys and crappy ADs out there, which makes it a double whammy.

    And selfishly, I think NIL and transfer portal in the long run favor a program like Georgia. Even if I didn’t have a selfish interest in those things, I think they do far more good than harm in the aggregate. Yes, we’ve seen some stupidity out of the gates, but that stuff corrects over time.

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  13. classiccitycanine

    Blocking Playoff expansion is my top priority. As someone who is 100% in favor of the portal and NIL compensation, I would like to see the roster management calendar shrunk. I think there should be transfer windows after the season and after spring practice. I would move Early Signing Day to the middle of January and I would shrink the recruiting windows (i.e. more “dead periods”) to give everyone a better quality of life.

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  14. I’d call Nick Saban and ask if he would be the commissioner of CFB, then Billy Payne and keep working my way down a list of people with a clue. Then tell the Presidents of the Universities to go fund raise while Me and the commish fix their mess.

    First, a new Mission Statement that is focused entirely on the welfare of the SA. Next, the transfer portal. Select dates of entry and exit. Sports leagues have always held the right to set conditions of eligibility, so tampering or other activity outside of the portal parameters does not punish the kid from changing schools, but the team is going to be ineligible. Next, NIL. Recognize the legal limits. Rather than resist, create a transparent and better format for boosters and other interested endorsers to work with AND through the schools to pool money, standardize contracts, provide legal, tax and wealth management support to the SA’s. Learn what the sponsors really want and construct a framework around that. Channel it, since you can’t stop it.

    Finally, the playoffs. Get TV, Conference and Bowl organizers in a room. Lock the door. Run the opening credits for the Masters and explain…we work out a compromise or we will produce and sell to a lone sponsor ourselves like these guys. Goal..great major bowl matchups, 4 team playoff for championship among P5, other bowls used for G5 and Independents playoff scheme (hello Notre Dame! Time to choose sides!)

    Won’t happen because the Presidents will never concede that kind of power.

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  15. argondawg

    Make the players employees of the univeristy. Pay them as such and set maximums on NIL. this probably violates about ten things but I just don’t see any other way. I want the kids to get paid and I want all oftheir medical bills etc to get taken care off. It feels like we are in a free for all. I know we offered and then countered Florida’s offer on Kamari Wilson the safety from IMG this year and then it just went to high. How the hell does that work now? How about we have a booster salary cap that can be divided for signing and one for active rosters. We have to treat these organizations like proffessional organizations. Its what they are now whether we like it or not. Let them establish a union and bargain. At least it will be structured.

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  16. Russ

    Regulate NIL first somehow. Next, put a window on the portal and recruiting limiting them to certain times in the year. Finally, kill playoff expansion.

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  17. uga97

    Portal prioritization already in place but its oo early to know what regulations until maybe a full 4-5 year cycles through.

    -85 scholly limit already in pkace

    -School doesn’t have to honor your scholly if you return out of portal.

    There are 1900 kids in Portal right now who are learning a hard lesson & telling their friends, families & coaches about it. Let this free market free agent play out.

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  18. Ricky McDurden

    Keep the playoff as it is. Much of the hand-wringing will be lessened when Saban finally retires
    Schedule the NY6 for Jan 1st. If the Rose Bowl wants its precious time slot, so be it but the Cotton, Peach, Fiesta, Orange, and Sugar are all getting the prime day, too. Citrus, Outback, Gator, etc can take New Years Eve, Jan 2nd, or be relegated to ESPN2. Big boy bowls should get big boy coverage on the day when everyone is at home watching.
    Eliminate Early Signing Day. Go back to February exclusively and reduce the urge to fire coaches just to salvage recruiting classes in December.
    Free Transfer period runs May-July. If you want to transfer after the season ends in December, that’s fine, but you’ll have to sit a year. If you want to use the one free transfer then you’ll have to wait until the Summer to make the jump.
    Leave NIL alone. I guess I could ask for more transparency and disclosure of dealings but then I have no idea the legalities surrounding that expectation (nevermind the apparent violation of privacy of non-government employees).

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  19. Geezus

    My initial reaction would be to get a handle on the transfer portal, but as I think about it, I wonder if the increase in the portal activity isn’t due to the COVID year. If, however, it is now the new normal, I think that it will eventually self-regulate: kids that keep jumping from school to school will suffer in their development and it will ultimately hurt their leverage and they will wash out the portal.

    I think the same thing happens for NIL. The sweet deals are happening now, but the NIL value is based on the player and his performance. It won’t take many times of a business tying up money in a player who ends up not really being a financial driver for them before they start to become hyper-critical with their investments. I’m sure Zaxby’s was expecting more from their investment.

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  20. Scotty King

    More and more, I like the Ivy League model……

    Now, get the hell off of my cloud/lawn!

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  21. Texas Dawg

    The one EASY change to the portal that would help is to make it defined period. From day X to day Y you can enter the portal with no restrictions. If you chose to transfer outside of that defined period then you have to sit out.
    Playoff expansion should be killed.
    NIL-not sure what can be done there. That should have been addressed years ago. That Genie is now out of the bottle.

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  22. The Truth

    The programs who know what the hell they’re doing, i.e. us, probably both hate the pressures of early signing day and love the chance to get early admits on campus for bowl practices and indoctrination into The Process.

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  23. kingcmo2000

    Deregulate signing day and the portal. It can all happen, whenever. Sign an 8th grader if you want. But make ‘signing’ a two-way street, one that guarantees a player a scholarship for the next 12 months. Only 85 scholarships outstanding at any time. Players can transfer as often as they like, but can’t play for two schools in the same season, and can only participate in 4.5 seasons of games within 7 years of graduating high school.

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    • I’m all for deregulation; I’ve just never seen a bureaucracy actually pull it off. Especially one as hide bound and smokestack as the university system is. If I had my way we’d get rid of the whole higher education system in the US and move to what’s next. Just cut it all. There is too much money in all those useless degrees they are foisting on future indebted for life baristas for that though…

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  24. Derek

    I have no issues with the portal. Freedom is good.

    The old bowl system was fine as far as I’m concerned. I don’t need a two team playoff. Four is almost always 2 too many and in some years like 2011, a team like LSU ought to be able to go to NOLA and beat the 8th ranked whoevers and get their trophy, not have to replay the team they beat in November.

    NLI will get out of control to the point that the ncaa will get their antitrust exemption from Congress and shut it all down. The pols should link their beneficence to a substantial across the board stipend for scholly athletes across all sports. That stipend should represent a percentage of TV revenue earned by each conference.

    I still say that athletic admissions requirements that are much closer to regular student admissions would be a societal plus. It would eliminate the accusations of “plantations” on college campuses and draw attention to the fact that far too many public schools really suck at producing quality college students. Maybe, just maybe, we’d do something about it if that actual, real fact jumped up and down on our faces.

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  25. Nothing should be done about any of it. We had a great system until the geniuses started tinkering starting with the BCS. They have been engaging a wicked problem by injecting energy. This always results in some unforeseen consequences. The best bet is benign neglect for about a decade and let this system stabilize. The best systems for living organisms is one with few rules. the organisms will adapt to the rules and stabilize. Monkeying with the rules constantly results in constant unstable environments and lots of legal fees; see tax code, USA.

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  26. guferuss

    Dump the playoff, return to the old bowl system with a +1 after the bowls of the top two teams to play for the championship.
    Have a defined window of when players can enter the transfer portal and leave (end of team’s season until signing day – which would return to the one day in February).
    As to NIL, ensure schools are out of the mix in any way. No conditional NIL offers IE you get this if you come to school A.

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  27. Biggen

    Not a fan of the portal. I’d go back to how it was and make everyone sit a year if they transfer unless they have graduated.

    NIL needs some type of overarching oversight. Every state has different rules. It’s a mess.

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    • The Truth

      Biggen, I’m not a fan of some aspects of the portal, but it addressed my biggest peeve, i.e. kids locked down to schools and coaches hitting the road for perceived greener pastures without penalty.

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      • Biggen

        I get it. I just don’t like what the portal has turned into. It’s free agency at this point as far as I’m concerned.

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      • Tony BarnFart

        Couldn’t a middle ground be that the year sitting has no affect on years of eligibility remaining, including the use of a redshirt ? He would retain everything he had prior to his transfer, he just pushes it all out 1 year (but can still practice etc) ?

        I don’t see how giving up 1 year is such a detriment if you retain the status quo. If you really wanted or needed out, that’s hardly the world’s worst impediment. Perhaps you’d actually sit back and think on it, and if you really do fall into the category (of needing a fresh start), it’d be a real easy decision. And yes, i’m fine with imposing that burden to keep stability in the system. Even with coaches, somebody’s gotta want to pay that buy-out for their move and they’ve gotta want to uproot their family. The vast majority of coaches can’t just up and move on a whim even though it seems like that.

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  28. Russ

    I’m just glad we won another NC before college football blows up completely.

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  29. Nil Butron is a Pud

    Random question: where is this “portal” anyway? Is it a real place, or an idea, like idyllic Rome…or a mother’s love…or holding on Bama? There’s a listing on 247, but I can’t find anything on the NCAA website. Maybe they have a fax machine and a bulletin board in the hallway outside of Mark Emmert’s private bathroom, right next to the 20-year old stained issues of Cosmo and half-used cans of Febreeze…

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  30. PTC DAWG

    The portal, she’s busted.

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  31. bwaredogs

    I’d require 18 months/3 semesters or something like that before a player can transfer without penalty – and they must be in good academic standing/on pace for graduation in 5 years. For example an early enrollee in January 2022 would be required to stay at the same school until June 2023. Likewise, summer enrollees who started in June 2022, couldn’t transfer until December 2023. This requires at lease some commitment from the school and student. This is still just a one time transfer, so they’d have to think about staying another year – especially if they redshirted or didn’t play much…do they have value in the portal at that point? Do they stick it out for two years then realize it’s not worth leaving, so they might as well stay and graduate?

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  32. rigger92

    With the news of some of our senior defenders choosing to come back I am wondering if we can thank NIL for that and I’m sure several others I don’t know about.

    Whatever changes should be made to control the portal and recruiting calendar can’t roadblock recruits enrolling early and being on campus for spring semester. That cat has been let out of the bag and it ain’t goin back unless it’s dead.

    For the sport losing good coaches because it’s too demanding, well, I would be willing to bet that there are thousands of execs in tall office buildings with the same level of problems and demands from their career.

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  33. GruvenDawg

    Remove early signing day completely or make it the last week of July (defer to P5 AD’s and coaches recommendation via a vote on whether to keep it). If keeping the early signing period, late July allows early signing day be over before fall camp and the season starts. It also hopefully keeps schools from firing coaches early to save signing classes. Drawback on having an early signing day is what if a player signs early to only have the coach fired. Best long-term decision is move it to its traditional first Wednesday of February and remove the early signing period (FYI, this was also done in the 80’s). I am not sure about all the current dead periods, however they need to be extended to allow for some downtime/development time for coaches and students.

    Some of this others (including Josh Pate) have recommended
    Last Friday of July – Early signing period (if kept)
    After last weekend of Nov – Jan championship game – NCAA dead period for on-campus trips

    January 2-16 Portal Period 1 (14 day period. Dates can change based on college admissions for drop/add dates recommended)

    Feb 1st Wednesday – Traditional signing period (only signing period if early signing period removed)

    Last Day of January to Feb 28 Dead Period – NCAA dead period for on-campus trips

    Spring Game 2nd and 3rd Saturday of April – Spring game is allowed to be played between two teams (defer to P5 AD’s and coaches recommendation via a vote on whether they want to play other opponents for spring games).

    April, post spring games Portal Period 2 (14 day period. Dates can change based on college admissions for drop/add dates recommended)

    June – 2nd week of July – NCAA dead period for on-campus trips. Can extend dead period further if the July signing period is completely removed.

    NIL- No idea, regardless will need some sort of limited anti-trust legislation. To enable that and allow self-management they will need to remove the P5 FBS division from being managed for football by the NCAA and adopt a P5 commissioner. New commissioner would have scheduling autonomy for 1-2 non-conference games (voted on by P5 AD’s and coaches on number of games). Make the student athlete employees and pay them. Probably would need some kind of FBS P5 football student/athlete players union. Hopefully paying the players a salary would reduce the NIL drama, however NIL still needs some sort of guardrails for the P5 football programs.

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  34. SoCalDawg

    table expansion
    assign dates to portal eligibility entry
    one universal NIL rule for all states

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