In light of the report that Daniels and Burton are offering themselves as a package deal from the transfer portal, I thought this was an interesting set of stats:
Looking back at that 2020 game against Miss. State in which Daniels performed so brilliantly as an outlier certainly makes a difference.
I don’t begrudge players making personal connections that they feel translates to the field. It’s ok. Stats don’t have to matter. YMMV.
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Also, it should be noted by the media watching this– shouldn’t it?– that Daniels will have to sit out next year. (Or have I missed something?)
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Nope. He graduates in May. Grad transfers don’t have to sit a year. They never have.
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Can he do the spring semester at his destination place and participate in spring practice while getting his degree either there or here via (what i think they call) correspondence ?
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My understanding is he will stay enrolled at UGA until he graduates in May. Then he officially transfers as a grad transfer. But he’s officially in the portal NOW, so that he can communicate with other schools all nice and legal like.
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Additionally, once a player submits his name to the transfer portal, coaches have the option of revoking their scholarship. Not sure what the standard practice is though. It would be awfully hard for me as a coach to keep a kid on scholarship while he is recruited by my rivals on my very own campus.
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Then you wouldn’t be employed very long as a CFB coach, as doing that would be used against you in recruiting big time recruits.
Any coach who does that, even if its in their power, deserves the blowback that will come their way.
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I can guarantee you Kirby told Joey Freshwater that it was okay for him to come to Athens and meet with them.
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Each school/coach has their own policy. In my experience, the standard practice is to honor the rest of the semester then revoke scholarship. In this case, it’s in UGAs best interest to keep JT so that his graduation benefits UGA’s APR.
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JT and Burton’s scholarships had already paid for their spring semester classes prior to the CFP CG. How, pray tell, would you revoke their scholarships retroactively? Assign staffers to tackle them at their classroom doors? Steal their cars?
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would he train at Butts-Mehre ? That’s a little awkward.
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RIGHT. Thanks, Corch.
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… not all those who wander are lost. The old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken, a light from the shadows shall spring. Renewed shall be blade that was broken, the crownless again shall be king.
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Seem to have struck a chord there… 😉
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Just love my Tolkien. 🙂
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It appears as though you have been token…hit it once for the rest of us…
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One toke over the line, sweet Jesus
One toke over the line
Sitting downtown in a railway station
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You ever seen the Lawrence Welk version? I love how the dude introducing the song can’t keep a straight face….. I’m guessing ol’ Mister Welk didn’t know what was going on….
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I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
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Fuckn nerds.
😉
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Equal opportunity hater?!
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Removing that Miss. State game is a big slice of data, isn’t it? Daniels started, what, 7 games at UGA? Shouldn’t we also take out last year’s S. Carolina game, when it was obvious we just planned to run the ball down their throats and not throw it much? When the offensive gameplan is geared that way, I don’t think it’s fair to keep those stats in the analysis.
Keep in mind, too, that wherever they both go will likely be a place that simply emphasizes the pass a lot more than we do. And have a smaller WR rotation. Those two things alone should help Burton catch a lot more balls next year, IMO.
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I always take out the Russian Judge’s score as well.
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I don’t understand how Burton got 5 targets from JT both with and without the MSU game? Was wondering how many targets he got that game.
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It’s probably just rounding . . . without MSU it could be 4.5 per game but he rounded up to 5. And with MSU it could be 5.4 and he rounded down to 5.
He had 8 catches in the MSU game, not sure about how many times he was targeted though.
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As I read it, Burton averaged 5 passes a game but if you take out MissState, his average yards per game fall way off.
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I love the package deal – hopefully keeps Burton from Bama. Please let it be so. I would happily root for both of them at OK State or Maryland.
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Dear JT and Jermaine,
Please go to Ole Miss and kick Bama’s ass next year.
Friends forever,
The Dawgs
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Good for them.
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They’re not on the schedule next year. Good luck, gentlemen.
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I’ll be cheering for them. Ole MIss will be my second-favorite SEC team next year. (And I don’t really care about or for Señor Kiffin.)
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Shedding the players that are selfish, don’t buy in or have other cancerous behaviors is not a bad thing. Shedding players that can not perform at the level needed to play at Georgia is not a bad thing. In most cases Kirby is controlling the roster as he has always done.
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Burton isn’t selfish, and has never displayed anything like that. Neither is Daniels for that matter. And they both play at an extremely high level.
You’re going to fault a WR for not wanting to play in an offense where the QB averages only 19 throws per game? Or a QB who lost his job to injury, not because he played poorly?
Dude.
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Keep in mind Corch, those are probably the same ones who crap on fans who had doubts about Stetson. It appears they have no problem with taking personal shots at guys like Burton though. Go figure.
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What makes you call them selfish? JT has been nothing but gracious this whole year, and Burton has played hard. JT has to leave if he wants a shot at getting some numbers together to play pro ball. Even if he stayed at UGA and won the job, we just aren’t going to throw it enough for him to get a fair evaluation by the NFL. In fact, the idea that they are angling for a package deal tells me that they want to help each other; what is selfish about that?
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If you ain’t Bama or Georgia and your coach isn’t making a run at these two guys right now…. you’re owed an explanation.
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Lane’s QBs sure take a beating behind their OL. I’d hate to see JT suffer the same fate.
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It’s amazing how QBs who can make the quick read always make their o-lines look better.
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Hopefully they both find a place to flourish. It couldn’t have been easy being JT this season.
I loved the picture of JT picking up SB in a big bear hug of joy upon winning the championship. That’ll be the mental picture I hold onto regarding JT.
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1) I wish them all the best. I can’t blame the two of them for seeking what they feel are greener pastures.
2) I’m not as nonchalant about this as it appears the majority of the dawg nation is (at least the reasonable segment of dawg nation).
I was hoping to see JT last year for all the reasons he was the starter going into the 2021 season. When it evolved differently based (I believe) on having a general defense, I was all for seeing SBIV take a crack at becoming a legend. And he did.
But I have trouble seeing us field another generational defense in 2022 due to the personnel losses. Any one out there truly believe we would have won it all last year with a less than generational defense? As the senator has repeatedly pointed out, SBIV can (and did) lead us to the promised land IF he’s not forced to chase a high powered offense, and can play his style of ball.
I think we’ll need more offensive juice next year, and I think not having JT and JB as options next year hurts our chances of staying on top of the mountain.
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Would LSU have won it all in 2019 without a generational offense?
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No. And I’m not seeing your point with that question.
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I think PTC DAWG is proving your point.
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Between the two, I think our model is more sustainable. I think our offense improves (even though it was a very good offense this year) and our defense will be really good by mid season at the latest. I expect to be in Atlanta next December putting another ass whipping on Bama.
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I expect to be in Atlanta. I don’t see an ass whipping by Georgia against Bama. They return a ridiculous amount of players and talent next year. Adding Gibbs, who I think is a Najee Harris type of player with similar talent, will even take that offense to higher levels.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think we all thought the offense would be ahead of the defense entering this past season. Especially before the WR injuries. Just because we don’t know all the names yet, that doesn’t mean we can’t have another otherworldly defense next year. Bama did that for a decade. We reload.
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I agree we have some talent lined up. But I don’t see how we immediately replace men like Dean, tindall, Walker, Davis, and Cine with folks who’ve taken mostly garbage time snaps.
Maybe we’re generational again in 2023.
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Cine – Tykee Smith
Davis – Jalen Carter
Dean, Tindall, Walker will be tough. Dumas-Johnson is one you’re going to get to know rather quickly. Chambliss is another name you’ll see plenty.
I wouldn’t be shocked to see Kirby do some ILB work in the portal if it’s out there.
We get both of our Edge rushers back, are adding 2 of the best young edges in the country, and have a very experienced DB camp.
The D is gonna be real good. LB play is the biggest question mark for me… that, and just how successful UGA can be on 1st down, stopping the run. SO MUCH of our defensive success is predicated on putting teams behind schedule. Keep that up, and maybe we regress to more of a 14-17ppg defense…
Honestly, though, Kirby’s focus isn’t going to change. “We make you pass, and then we beat your pass game.” We have the horses in the barn to keep that up, and more colts on the way.
Go Dawgs.
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Agreed on the ILBs being the biggest concern. As for carter replacing Davis, I don’t know that the one replacing carter in that scenario can avoid a drop off. Although stackhouse did look good in limited action last year.
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Ben, you did not mention the hole at CB due to Kendrick going pro. Did you see anything in our backup CBS that gives you confidence he can be adequately replaced?
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Burton was underutilized throughout his time here much like Mecole, Ridley, and Nauta. I’m sorry to see him go, but I don’t blame him for wanting to go to a place where he can show off his NFL talent. One of the benefits to throwing more/running more plays is to keep talented mouths full. Just one more reason I want Kirby to install a more dynamic offense like his mentor did.
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Burton was used much like all our other receivers. As I mentioned yesterday, our MOV was 15+ in every game we won except Clemson. There was absolutely no reason the throw the ball all over the field. The fact Stetson didn’t throw the ball 30+ times doesn’t mean he can’t throw 30+ times.
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Further, I’d posit that our use case is better than some place like Bama. Spreading the ball around (by necessity) helped us and when Bama lost their 2 primary (by far) receivers, their other receivers had trouble stepping up.
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As someone continually frustrated by all of the offensive substitutions (at all skill positions, not just WR), you make a decent point…
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Throwing the ball all over the yard is essential to be ready for the games when our defense isn’t having a good day. You don’t just pull that out when you’re losing and expect it to work.
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Whew! Glad that didn’t happen in Indy.
Guess them Dawgs sure were lucky in the title game, then.
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Kinda were, though.
Luck is a part of titles. Everyone’s. We create post-game myths that kind of erase that component.
Alabama got lucky in 2017 with some calls.
Georgia got lucky in 2021 with some injuries.
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We caught some significant breaks on Bama injuries and dropped balls don’t you think? Furthermore, we’re fortunate that we had a playoff format instead of the BCS. Otherwise we would never have had the mulligan in the first place. The fact that we won in Indy doesn’t change my opinion that the most repeatable formula for winning titles is scary great offense + good defense instead of great defense + good offense.
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Russ, I get what you are saying from a football point of view that there is no reason to throw the ball much with a lead. CCC’s point, however, I understand as well. Bama, tOSU, Clemson, LSU in 2019 and others throw the ball all over the field for four quarters regardless of the score (hence getting to 30 to 45 throws per game or so).
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Those teams are more willing to risk injuries and turnovers when the game is all but decided. Kirby isn’t. Win the day, move on. Stats are shit, and the defensive looks that a QB is gonna get when up by 28 are very different than the ones he’ll get up by 7, or down by 7.
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Dafuqs going on with your avatar, Ben? Are you channeling Ox Baker?
😉
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Ah! “Big Beard” on Nickleodeon’s Danger Force at 7pm ET tonight. I’ll check it out instead of reruns of The Big Bang Theory.
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Awww. That was yesterday. Another Friday night of shite.
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Haha… but NEXT Thursday, Part 2 of the episode will be on. So enjoy.
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I’m looking forward to it. Would appreciate a reminder.
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I would love to see your data showing a correlation between running your normal offense with backups in garbage time and increased injuries. Shutting it down early certainly didn’t help our pass catchers avoid injury this year did it?
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IMO the biggest problem was that for many games our receivers were so banged up going into the game that there weren’t many backups to put in during garbage time.
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So you are saying that ambitious young WRs wanting a lot of catches should go to teams that give up a lot of points? I guess that is why Jason Hazelwood flipped to Oklahoma?
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I’d say UGA utilized Mecole as much as the Chiefs utilize him.
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That’s probably an indicator we under utilized him. He’s currently surrounded by freak offensive talent at the highest level. He was more talented then probably 90% of the DBs he faced and WRs he competed with for snaps when he was at UGA.
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Exactly!
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Your point?
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Wishing the best of luck to JT and Jermaine. They have both been DGDs as far as I know and they’ll always be a part of this National Championship team!! The way the worm of fate turns, we’ll probably see them again in a game somewhere. That’s going to be a more frequent thing as kids use the portal to move around. I’d like to see them on a SECW team (one we won’t play).
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Matt Corral is a lot more mobile that JTD. The offensive line at Ole Miss ranked 97 in sacks given up with a highly mobile QB. I am not sure JTD would survive at Ole Miss.
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Well…bye.
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In the regular season, Georgia led at halftime in every game. In 10 of 12 games, the margin at half was more than 2 scores. Average halftime margin was 23 points.
Georgia led at the end of Q3 by 2 TD’s or more in 11 of 12 games (Clemson margin was 10). Average margin at end of Q3 was 32 points.
Of Georgia’s pass plays:
68% were run in the first half
22% were run in Q3
10% were run in Q4
If you assume Georgia’s D will take a step back in 2022, it would seem likely that Georgia runs more pass plays in 2022.
If you use 2021 1st half pass plays as a benchmark, but assume total 2nd half pass plays will be roughly equal to 1st half pass plays, 2022 would see around 130 additional pass plays – more than 10 per game.
Georgia’s pass offense in 2021 wasn’t limited so much by the quarterback. It was limited by the dominance of the defense and the efficiency of the offense.
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If you’re factoring out extremes you definitely have to eliminate 90+ yards against UAB from the equation.
As a further point of reference check out Pickens’ qb splits from 2020 before he was injured. Suffice it to say he was a lot more productive with JT running the offense.
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