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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
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Court approved. He hasn’t been proven guilty, so innocent currently. I think the school allows it.
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They should let him attend. It’s “Innocent until PROVEN guilty”.
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The court made the right decision, but whether he can participate under UGA guideline’s is a different question. If he is suspended from team activities, can he participate in UGA pro day? I don’t know the answer.
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I don’t know the answer, either. The Pro day is held at UGA facilities, but it is more as an accommodation for the players, right? The guys going to the pro day are not ‘on the team’ anymore? Except for public relations considerations (which can bend both ways) I don’t see a reason not to have him there.
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Having read the Banner-Herald reporting on it, the situation is murky. In a hearing the state was trying to revoke his bond for training in Deerfield Park, FL, but the Court did not do that because the condition on his bond is not that he stay in Rome, but that he can’t stay in Athens-Clarke County. He has plans to have a personal Pro Day somewhere else if he can’t go in Athens. Tougher call than I thought. I would advise him to do the private thing just to avoid the media circus, and distract from his teammates who are trying to show out.
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As the court should and as the school should. Unless resolved, he won’t likely get drafted unless it is a late round pick but he will get offers to be an undrafted free agent pending resolution of the case.
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It’s probably gonna be up to the school’s Title IX office.
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Is he still enrolled? If not, I don’t think the Title IX office can do anything unless they tell Kirby that Anderson can’t participate. The event in question allegedly occurred off-campus.
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No, it’ll end up in Public Affairs and Jere’s hands. They are notoriously risk averse and afraid of criticism. While I’m not comfortable with it, they should allow him to participate. After all, if he did do what is alleged, I’m sure the victim would rather he have the ability to pay damages.
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‘pay damages?’
Jeezus….. I’m sure the victimS would’ve rather not been assaulted in the first place.
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I see both sides of this issue, and this is likely a PR disaster on either side. If Kirby allows Anderson to participate, he’s going to hear it from the Me Too/women’s rights groups and the women’s studies faculty. The press will probably make his life miserable as well. If Kirby doesn’t allow him to participate, Anderson’s attorney/the civil rights crowd/the African-American studies faculty is likely to lean on Kirby. About the only thing he can do would be to say to the Anderson camp that his presence will be a serious distraction to his friends and teammates and allow Anderson to go out and say that same thing. In exchange, Kirby is willing to tell the NFL guys that Anderson was a good teammate but not talk about the situation.
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Exactly….. The “causes” will eat each other up on this one!
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Anyone else you don’t like?
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What are you talking about? There will be groups all over Kirby regardless of what decision he makes. He’s in a no win situation. That’s why I said it’s probably best if Anderson decides on his own to hold a personal workout for scouts rather than to try to appear at Georgia’s pro day.
Paranoid much?
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I miss AthensHomerDog…
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I dont…..
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“The Faculty”. LOL. Nobody listens to the faculty at UGA, man. C’mon.
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Doesn’t mean they won’t say something.
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Sigh.
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Guess what I would do on principle … tell him he’s not welcome for a multitude of reasons the top of which would be the distraction for his teammates and take the grief I would get as a result. I would try to handle it privately and allow Anderson to make the sensible decision.
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No way I allow this if I’m UGA. None.
Yall act like you’d let your daughter go out with Ted Bundy until there’s a guilty verdict. Thats not how any of this works.
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Innocent until proven guilty is there for a reason. If he is guilty he should be punished to the full extent of the law but he deserves to be treated the way our constitution is written. I am the mother to two daughters and saw what happened in Milledgeville with Rothlesberger. I also have known of cases where vengeful exes make up charges. The only criminal charge against Anderson is from the first accuser.
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Of course it is.
It exists so that a person may receive a fair trial.
Doesn’t mean that the rest of us don’t get to act with caution or even disgust.
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You’re on a roll Derek. I agree with your take completely. Of course he has the right to a fair trial, but that doesn’t mean I want my son and daughter ( UGA students) to hang with him this weekend.
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He also has right to a timely trial, which imo, I don’t think he’s getting.
****I hope justice is served soon.
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The cynic in me says that both sides feel a settlement is more likely AFTER he’s signed to a professional contract.
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Unfortunately I feel that way too. Well, he ain’t getting shit any longer. He’ll likely go undrafted.
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Exactly. Innocent until proven guilty is a legal fiction which serves the admiral purpose of ensuring jurors don’t enter the courtroom presuming every defendant charged is guilty (and the vast majority of course are). It doesn’t mean that the gunman who was caught on video maliciously shooting down and murdering ten of his co-workers has to be allowed back into the workplace before trial. To be clear, I am not saying that the evidence against Anderson is of this order. I have no idea what the evidence is at this point. The administration probably has a clearer idea of what the evidence is though. What many have said here already is true – it’s a no-win situation for Kirby. If Anderson can have an independent workout away from the team, it would be best for UGA.
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What happened in Milledgeville with Rothlesberger was a disgrace. The DA patted himself on the back for “not seeking an indictment when I am not certain I can win” while, at the same time, indicting a lot of people, especially poor folks, when cases were weak. Grandstanding at its worst.
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I don’t believe he’s asking for a date with anyones daughter at this time.
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So you may act like someone’s guilty, just not for pro day?
Fair enough.
I think the school can justifiably separate themselves from a twice accused and alleged rapist and the fucking constitution got nuttin’ to do with it. The school can decide who their values align with on the question of the optics of his participation.
If Kirby lets him around he’d better know that Adam is going to be vindicated. If thats the case he’ll look the hero for taking the heat.
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I doubt they let him participate.
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Well, just to amplify, apparently the reason he has a bond condition to not come to Athens (except for Court proceedings) is because the alleged victim fears retaliation, and there is no real reason for him to be in Athens anyway. Innocent until proven guilty just means you don’t go jail until proven guilty, which is why he has a bond in the first place. I don’t think it means that you get to do just what you did before the charge – actually we know that’s not true because there is a bond condition. Similarly, there is no requirement for UGA to ask him to come to Pro Day. Whether he gets to play pro ball has almost nothing to do with his appearance at a Pro Day. It’s not harmful to him (except as a matter of personal preference) to have to do it privately.
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Who said they’d let their daughter go out with him? Big difference in that and allowing him to participate in a pro day.
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The issue was the presumption of innocence playing a role in the decision.
It doesn’t.
I sometimes think that if it were up to the readership here that “analogy” and “metaphor” wouldn’t be found in our dictionaries.
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The AD needs to make the decision and leave the coach out of it.
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The issue was the presumption of innocence playing a role in the decision.
It doesn’t.
I sometimes think that if it were up to the readership here that “analogy” and “metaphor” wouldn’t be found in our dictionaries.
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Wrong reply button.
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This is also a good call. Let Josh Brooks take the heat on this decision and leave Kirby out of it.
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Looking forward to watching him run a 4.4
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Without all the information I’ll remain in the I don’t know camp.
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Can he still come back? I’m thinking he can, and he might be better off doing so. He’s radioactive ATM, I don’t know if/how many teams will risk a draft pick on him. Even if he didn’t come back to UGA, sitting and training for a year until the verdict is delivered removes the unknown risk he’s carrying now.
Obviously, he can’t rejoin the team until the case is resolved, but I don’t think there would be much problem with that (provided he isn’t convicted). He could show up a few weeks before the first game and be in the rotation. He’s been nothing but an asset to the team for four years.
Obviously #2, if he’s found guilty of what he’s currently charged with, he’s f*cked, and rightly so.
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He can’t come back because he declared for the draft.
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I thought undrafted players could return now, but maybe that’s just in basketball.
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Not in football … not sure if there’s an exemption for someone who hasn’t signed with an agent.
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Used to be the rule for a while in the 1990s but not not. A college basketball player cannot return and be eligible the last quarter century.
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Not sure it matters but I seem to remember some prior pro days where not all of the players working out for the scouts were former UGA players. Seems like we accommodate some others at times
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I may be senile, but did they let Crowell come back and workout at our pro day maybe?
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I don’t remember, but he had the charges dropped/reduced. The big thing in this case is the violence against a woman. The only parallel would have been if Jonathan Taylor had asked to participate in Georgia’s pro day while under suspicion of assault.
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Yeah, the charges being dismissed is why I was thinking it was Crowell…
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Bottom line – this really sucks for all involved.
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Best case scenario for Adam is the supplemental draft IMO. Don’t see how his legal situation is resolved before the NFL draft. And he needs to have a private workout for scouts, not at Pro Day in Athens.
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No, no, no
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From what I read Anderson has been arrested but not indicted for the allegations from accuser #1 in late October. Accuser #2 speaks up in December and an article states the investigation is “in the early stages”. I’m wondering why the DA has not attempted to get an indictment after 3.5 months? Why is accuser #2 investigation in the “early stages” after 2.5 months?
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