LOL.
Gee, I hope this doesn’t mess up the CFP expansion talks.
Welcome to the real world, Commissioner Kliavkoff. “Real world” being the Big Ten, the SEC and then everybody else after them.
LOL.
Source: USC and UCLA are planning to leave for the Big Ten as early as 2024. Move *has not been finalized* at the highest levels of power.
— Jon Wilner (@wilnerhotline) June 30, 2022
Gee, I hope this doesn’t mess up the CFP expansion talks.
Welcome to the real world, Commissioner Kliavkoff. “Real world” being the Big Ten, the SEC and then everybody else after them.
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“We remember the Sugar Bowl, I think it my junior year of high school, we let Alabama beat us twice,” Brinson said of a team that also lost to the Crimson Tide in the SEC Championship game. “We’re not letting Alabama beat us twice. In the Sugar Bowl in 2018, they… thought they should have been in the playoffs and lost to Texas.” -- AB-H, 12/27/23
Welcome to the PAC-Mount conference!
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Is that a reputable source? Big if true…
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Wilner is quite credible on the Pac-12.
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Well, it’ll simplify the hell out of the playoff talk. Whatever Stanley, warren and the tv guys decide.
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B1G if true…
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Well played
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[golf clap]
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Holy shit… this makes even less sense than Texas and OU joining the SEC. At leas there is geographic continuation with that move.
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The geography of money doesn’t observe state lines
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Idiots voting against their conference’s best interest regarding cfp expansion…r.I.p. pac 12, we hardly knew yee
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“Lincoln Riley coaching in the NFL in 2024” prop bet just came off the board at all major Las Vegas sportsbooks….
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He was the first thing I thought of when I heard the news.
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Has anyone gotten Colin Cowpatty’s reaction?
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What they meant was that college football will basically be the NFL by then.
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I’m sure the tennis, softball and volleyball teams at USC and UCLA will love that trip to Rutgers, Maryland or Ped State on a Wednesday night. I’m sure the Ohio State baseball team will love that Sunday night red eye to Columbus after the completion of a series.
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This may happen, but nothing about it makes any sense whatsoever. Kevin Warren hates that Sankey outmaneuvered him for Texas and Oklahoma, so he has to respond with USC and UCLA. Will USC or UCLA play a Big 9 a.m. game on Fox as a result?
Missouri in the SEC makes more sense than USC in the B1G … and Missouri makes no sense being in the SEC.
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I am happy to offer Mizzou to the Big 10 and replace them with Notre Dame.
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It’s ridiculous.
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Next up: Oregon and Washington join the SEC — makes about as much sense.
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My golf game wouldn’t mind Oregon and Arizona State. 😉
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Rolling Hills or Raven…sign me up for late fall…or anytime when that dry heat drops below triple digits
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Troon North, TPC Scottsdale, Talking Stick, etc. … I love desert golf. I’ll play in the dry heat.
For golf enthusiasts, let’s go get San Diego State for the SEC. A trip to Torrey, LaQuinta or PGA West would work.
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Does Pepperdine play football?
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Not since 1961. Undefeated since then.
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this bullshit is going to cost us our trip to LA to play UCLA in 2025, isnt it? I hate all this conference expansion for tv money.
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That was also my first reaction.
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I really hope that game stays on the schedule.
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The one big trip I’ve had on my calendar since it was announced. 😡
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Just put the top 30-40 or so football programs in their own league outside of their conferences and get it over with. It’s semi-pro ball at this point.
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I doubt numbers 20-40 are going to want to take the Ls that they would in a CFPL. No one outside of those schools are going to agree to play them. That’s the whole thing about this concept … South Carolina isn’t going to be one of the 40, but there’s no way they allow Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Texas and Oklahoma to go play football in that league without a bunch of money coming back to buy out media rights. Power 5 plus ND and a few others? Maybe, but the idea of a super league isn’t going to happen.
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I don’t know. I’m leaning more and more towards this resulting in the Big XII and the Pac-12 and the ACC being relegated to the ranks of the AAC in the next decade and the SEC and B1G further expanding into the 20+ team range.
The Pac-12 probably doesn’t have a way to salvage itself if this happens. If they aren’t already looking for a way out, Oregon will probably do so sooner rather than later (Washington as well). Oregon’s AD might well have been Yormark’s first call as Big XII commissioner. There’s no Houston, Cincinnati or UCF in the Pac-12 footprint sitting in a talent rich area that is just waiting on a chance to be in a P5 conference with the huge TV money and allowing them to recruit on a more level field with the other P5 schools in their state.
The Bix XII can probably rise to the level of the third best conference with Houston and UCF. Houston was never going to get invited into the Big XII so long as Texas and Oklahoma were there because A&M, Texas and Oklahoma didn’t want Houston on a level recruiting field for all that talent. UCF also sits in a talent rich region (The Gus Bus will likely make UCF very relevant in the near future with the move).
As for the ACC, I think that their future is dependent on (i) getting Notre Dame to join fully, and (ii) finding one other current G5 school that, like Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF, can immediately raise an already good/respectable football program to a real player because becoming a P5 with the additional resources will allow it to be even more competitive. Is that someone like a USF or Memphis? I don’t know. But getting Notre Dame and someone else allows them to renegotiate their TV deal which is going to be imperative once the SEC and B1G are getting nearly double annually what the ACC is getting. If they don’t get that, then I have no doubt that FSU, Clemson and Miami are going to look to make a move as they watch the arms race for facilities, recruiting, etc. go to a whole new level.
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LOL wow. With allies like this who needs enemies, am I right?
There’s so much to unpack here. The B1G schools are still snobs to Penn State to this day, and Pennsylvania at least borders the Big Ten. Now they’re bringing in two California schools? A coast-to-coast conference? That’s ridiculous.
Of course, it also stands to make the Big Ten a metric shit ton of money. Huge for their TV deals, huge for their network.
I really, really hate this. I hate this as bad if not worse than Texas and OU coming to the SEC because this is the move that, if true, I think is the real harbinger of the end of college athletics as we’ve known it. Conferences just aren’t going to mean anything more than the NFC West or the AFC East do in the pros.
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This is huge news for Dan Lanning, though. Pac X titles galore, coming right up.
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His new team got thumped twice last year by Utah. He still would have to deal with Kyle Whittingham who is a damn good football coach.
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Pac-12 titles aren’t going to mean much when the Pac-12 is thought of as more closely resembling a G5 conference like the AAC than a P5 conference.
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PAC 12 titles haven’t meant much in a long time
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Not to speak of Rutgers and the Terms!
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Boy, that LAX-Dulles-College Park trip to play Maryland is going to suuuuuuuck.
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Agreed. This is much bigger than Texas and OU.
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The line that the people that actually make the decision have not made one is a pretty big caveat.
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All that means is that the schools just told the conference.
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Well if heather confirms it 🙄 lol
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Four 16-team “super conferences”, here we come!
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College football 2025 is just going to look like someone got tequila drunk and started editing stuff on EA Sports 05.
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With the Big 12 already committed to take on BYU and the 3 blind mice from the AAC in 2023, I’m guessing the next move is that Texas Tech, Oklahoma St, Iowa State, Baylor, & the Kansas schools all go begging to the Pac. to take them in.
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I think we’re in the horse-and-buggy stages of a monumental shift in college football conferences. Everyone’s getting caught up in “what will conferences look like in 2025???” Ha. By 2035 the landscape won’t remotely resemble anything we have now.
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Georgia and Florida should move to the ACC. Much easier path to the playoff than the SEC.
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No real telling where this goes but I actually think this probably helps the SEC in the playoffs. I would be surprised if the next playoff deal doesn’t include a bunch of guaranteed spots for the SEC and the Big10 and the rest of the leagues get relegated to at large. Why would these two new super conferences give the same access to the ACC or decimated pac-10? 12 team playoff with 8 spots for the SEC/Big 10 and everyone else can fight for the last 4. The other conferences have no leverage.
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Really, at this point it doesn’t matter anymore. College football is nothing more than a minor league pro football league with colleges holding naming rights. When the B1G and the SEC have 36 of the “P5” teams in college football in a couple of years, those two conferences will have to create some form of playoff among their own members to determine who would be in any “college” playoff. There is no fair way for either conference to determine its champion without at least a two round playoff where 4 teams compete. That will mean SEC and B1G teams will have to play 16 games in a season to win a national championship if ESPN doesn’t expand the playoff. Notre Dame would have to play 14 and the ACC champ would play 15.
“College Football” is about to become what ESPN has been wanting for decades, NFL Light.
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I love that the four major schools stranding their perfectly good conferences are leaving places they haven’t won nearly as much as they should, for “greener” pastures where they will definitely get embarrassed by objectively far better programs on a regular basis. Good for them. They can spend even more money on even fewer wins.
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How long before Sankey shows up in South Bend, IN to guarantee them a bigger check that whatever NBC pays them?
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I believe ND has an agreement with the ACC that they have first dibs if decides to join a conference for football.
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USC and UCLA simply won’t want to be the only teams on the west coast in their conference. If they’re going to the Big Ten then other western schools are coming, too. I think I remember Colorado wanting to be there the whole time. Oregon and other programs may be moving, too. Big Ten West may just be its own conference out there that gets together once a year in Indy.
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Colorado isn’t a Big 10 caliber team.
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Add Arizona, Arizona state, Utah, and Colorado. Move Nebraska, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa to the “west” and you have two divisions that have some geographic proximity.
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I’d say they’re better than Big 10 member Rutgers…
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How much longer until the ACC bulks up?
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You misspelled “loses Clemson, Florida State, and Miami to the SEC.”
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You would need one more. NC State, maybe?
The rights buyout is too large for ACC schools to leave at this point from what I understand.
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I’m sure that the money to pay those things off is out there. Not sure one of the Carolina schools would leave, but one of them or one of the Virginia schools. Georgia Tech would certainly answer on the first ring.
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Virginia Tech? Maybe.
Georgia Tech? No way any of the original 10 members of the league let the Nerds of the NATS back in.
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I mean… we’re through the looking glass on a lot of things these days, there’s nothing I would rule out at this point. Nothing at all.
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I could see Tech in the B1G before the SEC. They already check the box of being an AAU member (like Vandy).
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I always thought we should have poached Va. Tech. instead of Mizzou.
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Agreed, but I think their legislature still has the law on the books that they have to be in the same conference with UVA. I don’t remember the exact wording of the law they passed, but they put something into law to make sure VA Tech got into the ACC and wasn’t relegated with the Big East scrap heap.
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ND is the final piece of the puzzle. Once they and FSU, UM, and Clemson decide to join the SEC/Big 10 the breakaway from the NCAA will begin.
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They should grab Baylor, Oklahoma state, Kansas, and Kansas state. The game between Kansa and tech to see who the worst team in the acc is would be priceless.
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Really looking forward to that Maryland or Rutgers vs USC game.
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UCLA vs Illinois is a natural rivalry.
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We’ll see, but what schools are left that would move the TV money? Would ESPN/FOX/Amazon whoever pay the SEC an extra 300M a year for them to add Miami, Clemson, FSU and ND? They’d have to do that for it to be worth it to the SEC, or the BIG 10, and I kind of doubt that those schools are worth that much. That’s why this is happening. Texas, OU and USC were the last nationally relevant brands that were in underpaying conferences that had the ability to leave them. The ACC schools all signed a suicide pact when they locked in their rights at the price they did. None of the schools still left in the Pac 10 or Big 12 are worth anything.
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I think that the media rights package for adding the four teams you mentioned to the SEC would definitely warrant an additional $300MM per year. ND alone is probably worth half of that.
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If you’re right, then notre dame is worth taking and the others are all dilutive. I’d agree. Notre dame is the only piece left on the board that is unequivocally worth adding to either of those two leagues. Could certainly be wrong but I suspect the two big leagues will stand pat now unless notre dame calls. I could see the big 10 taking Washington and Oregon if they wanted to move but that’s about it.
Below those two conferences? Who knows. Could be anarchy. But it won’t change the math much. If you cherry picked the best 16 teams possible out of everyone left it would be close to the sec or big 10. So those two and their tv partners will be driving college football going forward.
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Auburn is on a white board as we speak drawing up all the ways they wouldn’t have to play Georgia in a 20 team SEC.
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All of this conference realignment going on and they’ll keep telling us how NIL and the transfer portal are ruining the game.
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At these gas prices? Are they crazy?
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Heck once upon a time the SEC had 33 members…everything old is new again I guess.
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I feel like there is a break in the FCS coming in football only, but there will be a 60 or 64 team top tier that will break away. The rest will likely have their own playoff and NC.
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Next step: get Clemson to join the Big 10, then create the National College Football League (NCFL) with 2 conferences: AFC (formerly the SEC) and NFC (formerly the Big 10). Then demote all teams outside of that to a lower league that plays each other.
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Who owns the Rose Bowl now? I think this is all Urban Corch Meyer getting in bed with the Saudis to create a new league. #LIVFootball on YouTube.
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Paging 1980’s college football – please come back
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Bring 1960’s music with ya!
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