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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
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Who would have thought that Oklahoma/Texas moving to the SEC would create enough dominoes to destroy the PAC12. You have to have the LA market to make this work out there. Will be interesting to see where Oregon and Washington and Stanford land.
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Stanford goes independent. That’s an easy call.
UW and Oregon to the B1G. Four corners to the Big-12. Wazzu and OSU are screwed and have to join the Mountain West. Cal could join them if they decide not to go independent.
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Had not even thought about Stanford going independent. And it makes complete sense. One of the few schools that has a unique enough profile, and more importantly, the $$$ to be able to do just that. The could pick and choose conference alignments, similar to Notre Dame. Concur with where the others will go as well.
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Yeah, most people have no idea how much money Stamford has. They, along with Texas, are really the only schools that could go independent and mean it, and not like BYU did as a holding pattern. Stanford because they have an insane endowment, and Texas because of their booster oil money.
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Corch, considering we’re currently down 5-0 in the bottom of the 7th, do you think Josh Brooks is going to fire Scott Stricklin tomorrow if we are out of the SEC tournament in about an hour?
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100%.
It sucks that our baseball team is so mediocre, and have been for most of Stricklin’s terrible era (I hated the hire from the beginning) considering what Perno was able to do during his time in Athens.
I don’t know who Brooks will bring in, though. Coaches at private schools rarely leave because those schools can offer full scholarships to all their players (which is why Vandy is always so good), and the two best candidates are private school coaches.
Also, keep a look at gymnastics. It’s time for Kupets to go, too.
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I would think Kupets is on an extremely short leash entering 2023-24.
Can’t Stricklin practically offer full rides for in-state guys if they qualify for Hope? It doesn’t really matter because the other public schools have passed us. It seems Stricklin is probably out, but whoever is the replacement is going to demand something on the facilities front.
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Stricklin’s problem is he is a lazy recruiter. When you have coaches from FSU and Auburn and Tennessee and Miami and from everywhere else constantly camped out in Cobb County scouting and recruiting and no one from Georgia can be found, that’s coaching malfeasance.
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That is really bad. Yikes.
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Looks like it’s over … 9-0. We went quietly into that good night. It’s going to be a loooooooooong bus ride from Hoover to Athens this afternoon.
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I read on one of the pay sites that there is a ‘very well known’ coach in the college ranks that is extremely interested in the HC job at Georgia, should it open up. This was written by a well respected staff member, not a mod or average Joe paying to be on the site.
I think Strickland got a bad break in 2020. He had a loaded roster and looked to be ready to make a run. But that was then and this is now.
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He (and we) did get a bad break in ’20, but he also had 2 national seed teams before that face plant in the regionals IIRC.
If we’re going to get a proven head coach, I’m guessing there is going to have to be a committed big investment in facilities by either making Foley competitive with the other SEC schools’ ballparks (is that possible?) or finding a spot off campus for a completely new facility.
Throw in making sure that the replacement is a relentless, Kirby style recruiter who can get the most from the team.
It’s going to be a big job that will not be exactly easy.
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Stanford’s media rights alone aren’t likely worth what they probably would get under the Pac 12’s revised deal. The only way they go independent is if the Stanford endowment subsidizes the athletic program (who knows how much of the endowment could possibly be used as unrestricted funds). Cal has the same problem without the endowment (and as a public institution) – frankly, I’m surprised the UC System is ok with UCLA leaving Berkeley behind.
Washington & Oregon will be wooed to the B1G but will have to deal with the potential political fallout of leaving little brothers behind. Nike supports both Oregon State and Wazzou and would probably want Oregon State at least to be bound to Oregon.
Would the Big 12 want both Arizona & ASU? I could definitely see Utah and Colorado heading east.
Going to be interesting to say the least … Once again, the “alliance” member gets screwed by going along with Kevin Warren to give him time to pluck the 2 remaining crown jewels. Suckers.
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They would take Washington – it’s Oregon State that would be left out in the cold.
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I definitely agree with that. Washington is the preferred property. The question will be whether the state’s political brass (and the folks at Nike – yes, I know Nike is based in Eugene and Phil Knight is a Duck, but the Swoosh supports both programs) are going to be ok with the Ducks leaving the Beavers behind. Same thing for Washington with Washington State.
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Stanford has enough money that if they wanted to and it was 2013 and not 2023, they could launch their own cable channel with no help from a partner. But since it’s 2023 they probably look to their friends at Notre Dame to help them land a deal with NBC.
Oregon and UW have zero loyalty to their little brothers. They’re both already exploring leaving for the B1G.
Big-12 definitely takes all four corners because it gets them to the magic number 16. The Phoenix market is also extremely lucrative for TV, not to mention recruiting.
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Other than the fact that NBC is now tied to the B1G and the LHN has proven to be a massive failure (Texas wouldn’t have come to the SEC with hat in hand asking for membership if they believe they could go independent). Stanford doesn’t have the brand (yes, they have the money) for football and men’s basketball (nor the alumni base due to its private nature) to support a standalone cable channel.
I agree that UO and UW are going to try to leave little brothers behind, but the question will be whether their state legislatures (or Nike in Oregon’s case) allow that to happen.
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No-one suggested that Texas was going Independent; just that they had the capability to stand alone and do so.
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I was using the LHN as an example of what has happened with a school specific cable channel that Corch was saying Stanford could do. If Texas thought going independent was preferable (because the LHN was making them money that they didn’t have to share) to SEC affiliation, they would have done it. The bottom line is that Texas could go independent, but they wouldn’t make the money they were going to make as a member of the SEC.
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NBC isn’t tied to anyone or anything. They can give their money to whom they choose.
I didn’t say a Stanford Channel would be successful, I was trying to illustrate how much money they have, because most people can’t fathom how much it is.
Stanford has Scrooge McDuck, swim around in a money bin, money.
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NBC Universal is part of the B1G rights deal starting in 2024, so there’s only so much money to go around. There is no way Stanford could command a remotely similar deal to what NBC has with Notre Dame for the Irish’s home games ($25,000,000 per year).
Your point about the channel is what my point was about whether Stanford would subsidize its football and men’s basketball programs with endowment funds. Yes, they have approximately a $40,000,000,000 endowment, but how much of that endowment is restricted use would be the question.
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Well, we know that FOX and CBS have deals with the B1G, and NBC less so. Regardless, the point remains, Stanford can and likely would go Independent. Even joining the B1G, which is what Cal would prefer so they could join together for even numbers, is not preferable to independence.
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Stanford would go independent and require a significant subsidy from its endowment to remain competitive as a Power 4 program in football and basketball if the Pac 12 collapsed. Based on sportsmediawatch.com, here’s where Stanford’s TV ratings for football landed:
BYU-Stanford – 453k viewers (Week 13 – #26 overall)
Stanford-Utah – 1.04m (Week 11 – #14 overall)
Stanford-UCLA – 1.26m (Week 9 – #9 overall)
Stanford-ND – 2.15m (Week 7 – #8 overall)
Oregon St-Stanford – 1.08m (Week 6 – #15 overall)
Stanford-Oregon – 672k (Week 5 – #21 overall)
Stanford-Washington – 532k (Week 4 – #20 overall)
USC-Stanford – 2.96m (Week 2 – #5 overall)
All of their remaining games weren’t in the top 30 or so and were all on the Pac 12 Network (by the way, no SEC Network game in 2022 appeared in the top 30).
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They are doomed. Even Houdini can’t save them.
Notice they didn’t freeze pay raises.
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Scott reduces a power five conference to a smoking crater, walks away with several million in the bank and probably thinks that he did a great job. Some people have no conscience.
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The conference hired him, kept him around and paid him. I don’t see where Scott should have any crisis of conscience. The conference must have thought he was doing a good enough job. He has nothing to be ashamed of.
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Taking money from easy marks (i.e., “hustling”) isn’t illegal, it’s just frowned upon….
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I used to think the big 12 would be the next conference to join the SWC and the Big East. Looks like I’m going to be wrong again.
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If we wake up tomorrow to find that UW and Oregon are leaving for the B1G and Utah, Colorado, and the Arizona schools are leaving for the Big-12, would anyone be surprised?
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Frankly, the only thing I would be surprised by is if this time next year we don’t know that UW and Oregon are heading to the B1G and Utah, Arizona and Arizona State are joining the Big XII to form a sixteen team conference. The Big XII would need one more member to get to 16 full members with the departure of OU and UT and additional of Cincy, UCF, Houston, and BYU. Maybe you are correct that it would be Colorado. I just don’t see any long-term value in CU.
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Are they going to try to claw back some of the money from USC and UCLA that was distributed in the past or just withhold the whole thing from their 2023 distribution?
I get why the LA schools are doing this … I still think it’s stupid especially for the non-revenue sports (and some of the revenue sports like basketball and baseball). I only hope a number of the schools around them refuse to play them in any sport unless they agree to return trips and massive payouts for the games in LA.
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College football had a good run. Time to set up the NFL minor league. I just hope we don’t get affiliated with the Falcons.
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When the govt mandates that athletes are employees, it will be officially over for college athletics. I guess some club type teams will still exist but the days of top talent playing college sports will be over.
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Where is the top talent going to go? The NFL doesn’t want to run a minor league system because it’s a money loser. If they did, they would have done it years ago. The NBA may have an interest, but even the G-League isn’t pulling all of the blue chips away from college basketball.
You think Kirby Smart or Nick Saban is going to get paid $10m to coach true minor leaguers? No way. They wouldn’t even get $1m to do it.
Are people going to fill 90,000+ seat stadiums to watch the Falcons’ minor league affiliate? Nope.
It’s going to take more than being designated as employees to kill big-time college sports.
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Thankfully its pretty obvious the Falcons don’t want us either….
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Well played.
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I wouldn’t want the Falcons’ front office finding the players for their Athens minor-league affiliate. We would have a quarterback from Alaska and defensive linemen from Maine.
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Idiots. We are surrounded by idiots.
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To this day, “Stuck in the Middle with you” is one of my favorite songs. 🙂
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You only brought one rocket?
You told us to watch the budget.
—scene from latest Barry on HBO
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So I guess that’s lunch, then.
Bye, bye, Pac 12.
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Am I the only one who really doesn’t care what happens to any of the Pac12? For that matter, I don’t care what happens to the B1G, the ACC or the BigXII either. College football is a regional sport. If college football ceased to exist west of the Rockies I honestly would not notice unless some news outlet told me about it.
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With respect to the Pac 12 and Big XII, I am with you. To the extent that the ACC gets further destabilized, I watch with concern that the end result is the addition of a Clemson and, for example purposes only, UNC to the SEC which leads to serious consideration by Notre Dame to join the B1G.
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ACC is a two team conference, Clemson and FSU and Jimbo ruined FSU. The rest of the ACC is a bunch of weak sisters who play each other so someone has to end up with a decent looking record. Kentucky would be a perfect fit in the ACC, a passable football program and a fan base obsessed with basketball.
The SEC needs to stand pat at the size it is now. If Clemson wants in, Missouri needs to be kicked out to make room. If UNC wants in, South Carolina or Vanderbilt need to be kicked out.
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Good point about FSU. No clue why I blanked on a second team after Clemson and didn’t think of FSU.
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New transportation for the Cougs:
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I’m okay with this. Freezing pay, hires, travel, etc. is a step in the right direction considering the obscene amounts of money that has flowed to a small group of athletic department hangers-on.
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Ever wonder why a high profile organization, like the Pac12, could get away with stealing money and not be punished criminally? They knew they were being over paid but kept the money.
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