Category Archives: Recruiting

Thursday morning buffet

A few nibbles here, a few there…

  • Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione admits the math isn’t there for Big 12 expansion.
  • Does somebody at Tennessee need to step up and commend Drae Bowles for coming forward?  (Note that is not the same question as will somebody at Tennessee step up.)
  • Ole Miss hasn’t sold out its ticket allotment for the opener against FSU.
  • Here’s you a handy summary of all the preseason mags.
  • Academics vs. the jocks at Cal-Berkeley, not a pretty story.
  • Buyer’s remorse at Auburn can come on very quickly, it seems.

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Message for a new coach

One of my favorite quotes ever was the subject of my first Envy and Jealousy post back in 2007.  All these years later, and it still resonates.

Miami: From a Bulldog perspective, if you looked at the state of Florida as though it were Afghanistan (and I do), the Gators, obviously, are the Taliban, while Miami is whatever warlord is running things in the Northeast. The Hurricanes don’t occupy anything remotely resembling moral high ground, but they are useful.

I bring this up now, because if you’re a Georgia fan, FSU and Miami should serve one useful purpose — crapping on Florida recruiting by sucking the oxygen out of the tent.  Bud Elliott writes that one of those two is keeping up its end of the bargain.

Florida State has enjoyed a strong run of success against Florida and Miami under Jimbo Fisher, and those wins are really paying dividends on the recruiting trail. For example, just this past year, the Gators and Hurricanes signed a combined 19 blue-chip recruits, while the Seminoles brought in 18 by themselves.

Coach Richt, I’m just sayin’.

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Chasing blue chips, a reminder why

Brian Cook summarizes the math nicely here:

Recruiting is important, part infinity. PFF released a list of the top 101 players in college football that we mentioned in this space because it has five different Michigan defenders on it. Some dude on 247 ran it through some statistical analysis. Results:

Minimum: 1 ~ 1.000
First Quartile: 31.5 ~ 98.40
Median: 238 ~ 90.90
Third Quartile: 1000 ~ 84.19
Maximum: 3000

Over 25% of players listed in PPFs player rankings were rated as 5* players coming out of high school by the composite. Over 50% were rated as 4* players. While recruiting rankings aren’t perfect they are a strong correlate of future success.

Five star players are approximately 1-3% of the pool and four-stars about 10%. This is in line with findings about the NFL draft; applying this analysis to PFF’s rankings of college players based on their performance right now is even stronger evidence that recruiting rankings matter.

Yes, there are many three-stars and two-stars who defy the odds and go on to playing success.  But that’s the point.  Those odds aren’t in a coach’s favor.

Three-quarters of the top players are blue chippers who make up under 15% of the total pool of recruits.  So if you’re looking for great players, either you find a way to separate the wheat from the chaff consistently, or you chase the kids at the top.  There’s no mystery why the best recruiters go after the most highly ranked high school kids.  That’s where the odds are.

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Home grown

David Ching asks:

Which states have proven to be the most fertile recruiting grounds for SEC schools at specific positions?

That was the question we hoped to answer this week by breaking down the conference’s 3,762 signees between 2006 and 2016 by home state and position and then tallying the numbers.

Today we will examine defensive positions…

What will amaze you when you read his piece isn’t that Georgia is the state leader over that time, but the size of the margin in certain areas, like “Nearly one in five of the SEC’s defensive line signees (133 out of 712) hailed from Georgia.”

Holy crap, Dawgs.  With numbers like that, who cares about locking down the borders?  Just get your fair share of in state talent and you’d be kicking ass.

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“They just take abiding by the law and discipline very serious around here.”

While we’re on the subject of negative recruiting, how much do you think Georgia’s coaches face every day regarding local law enforcement?

I know this: Kirby cares. I heard there was a team meeting after he had to give Clay his walking papers and that Smart went off on the Bulldogs. He was none too happy to have to deal with these issues, much as he was not at all happy with the headlines splashed across the Internet on Thursday and last week.

I was talking on the phone to the mother of one of the Bulldogs’ new players the other day, not long after Clay was arrested. She asked me, quite concerned and sincerely, “is this always the way it is at Georgia?”

It always helps to have a receptive audience.

That being said, I’m not sure I agree with Towers that coaches need a financial incentive, either positive or negative, to avoid player arrests.  I’m guessing Smart’s already got plenty of motivation on that front.

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The spread and “gets you ready for the NFL”

This many years in to the spread era in college ball, and we’re still hearing stuff like this on the recruiting trail:

Coaches who run so-called pro-style offenses can use this to their advantage, telling quarterbacks that, by playing in a system with elements similar to the NFL standard, they can enhance their chances of becoming (and succeeding as) a pro. At Nebraska, for example, Langsdorf oversees a pro-style system, and earlier this year he helped the Huskers secure a commitment from one of the top pro-style quarterbacks in the class of 2017, Calabasas (Calif.) High’s Tristan Gebbia. “I think the kids look at what they’re going to be doing, what they’re going to be asked to do in an offense, and so I think there’s an advantage to having some similarities to what they would do in college and in the NFL, and I think that is a selling point for us for sure,” Langsdorf says.

By contrast, coaches who run spread offenses often must combat the perception that their systems, no matter how successful against college defenses, will be an impediment to quarterbacks with dreams of playing in the NFL. Multiple spread practitioners spoke to Campus Rush about system classification being used as a means of negative recruiting. The idea—reinforced seemingly every year by NFL analysts, scouts and coaches—is that quarterbacks who come from spread offenses face a greater burden of proof in the pre-draft process than signal-callers with track records of operating pro-style systems.

Says Arizona co-offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach Rod Smith, “We’ve heard that: You don’t run a pro-style system. You don’t run a pro-style system, you’re more of a spread, you’re more this. How is that going to get you ready for the pros?” While conceding that it was “more three to four years ago than it was right now,” Clemson co-offensive coordinator/wide receivers coach Jeff Scott, who helped lead the Tigers to the national title game last season, says he has heard a similar line trotted out. “Just guys that say, ‘You don’t want to go play in that offense because it’s a spread, gimmick offense, and it’s not going to prepare you for the NFL.'”

You recruit negatively because it works, I suppose.  The problem is that more and more these days the NFL is holding its nose and taking quarterbacks coming out of spread offenses – from Cam Newton to Jared Goff to (likely) Deshaun Watson – as high first round draft picks.  At some point in time, it’s going to dawn on NFL scouts and high school quarterbacks that the distinction has lost its meaning.  Unless, of course, you really believe the NFL is prepared to spend its money on a developmental league.  Yeah, right.

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Bob Bowlsby’s got a mess on his hands.

Of course, most of us can think of a dozen things that are more of a mess than satellite camps.  But it’s nice he cares.

“There were all kinds of components of it that would not be what we would want to have as our recruiting environment,” Bowlsby said Wednesday. “We are at the point where there’s full acknowledgement that this isn’t about teaching football, it’s about meeting players and meeting families and meeting middlemen. It’s all about the recruiting environment; it’s not about camps anymore. So we need to deal with it on that basis.”

Of course it’s about recruiting, you silly twit.  You think anyone would care if it were about teaching football alone?

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