INTRODUCTION
The Mumme Poll is an ongoing attempt, jointly sponsored by two college football blogs, Get The Picture and 3rd Saturday in Blogtober, to construct a viable method to rank Division 1 college football teams without the bias and potential conflicts of interest that affect other polls, particularly the USA Today Coaches Poll.
This is accomplished by means of conducting the voting in two very different ways from other football polls:
- The first vote does not take place until after the games of Week Six have been played. Voters are not asked to evaluate teams based on preseason expectations and are not expected to use those as a baseline from which to rank teams for the rest of the year.
- Rather than being required to rank twenty five D-1 teams in order of preference, Mumme Poll voters submit ballots of the top twelve teams in the country, without ranking (other than to designate a top five from those twelve, for use as a tiebreaker). The poll rankings are then compiled by means of approval voting; that is, the teams are ranked in the order of the total number of times they appear on voters’ ballots. (For more on approval voting as a means of addressing bias in the Coaches’ Poll, see this post.)
BACKGROUND/HISTORY
The inspiration for the Mumme Poll came from the final 2007 regular season Coaches Poll and Tony Barnhart’s post breaking down some of the more questionable ballots. (You can read that post here.) The poll is in fact named in honor of the most questionable vote of that Coaches Poll – Hal Mumme’s ballot listing Hawaii as the number one team in the country.
In response, the initial Mumme Poll ran at Get The Picture for the 2008 season. Florida finished first at season’s end.
With the 2009 season, the poll has a new home at this site. While the mechanics of the voting have not changed from the first year, the move has allowed for a web interface that makes the voting process much more user friendly. Additionally, the new site will carry poll related commentary from several other college football bloggers.
PARTICIPATION
We’re (small “d”) democrats here. Mumme Poll voting is open to any knowledgeable, enthusiastic college football fan. That’s part of the fun of it.
RULES
There aren’t many, but what few there are matter.
- Registration. To cast a ballot, you’ll need to register at the new site. Registration each season is limited to the week leading up to and through the games of week five.
- Voting period. In most weeks, balloting takes place at any time between 9:00 A.M. on the Sunday following the games and 9:00 P.M. on the following Monday. On those rare weeks when a Sunday game is played, the voting is pushed back 24 hours.
- Ballot format. A ballot must contain votes for twelve schools and a top five group selected from those schools.
- The one commandment. Don’t try to game the system. Don’t subvert the vote by submitting a ballot with your favorite school and the eleven worst teams in D-1, for example. The ballots are monitored and if something questionable comes up, a voter will be given a chance to explain. But if we’re convinced there’s a deliberate effort to muck things up, we’ll toss the ballot and the voter.

41 Comments
July 23, 2008 at 8:19 am
Wasn’t sure if you read this on you last post.
Just one question/suggestion…
Have you thought of asking others on the blogroll to participate in a similar Mumme Poll with their own readers?
I think even fans from the Big 12, PAC 10, etc., wouldn’t mind putting in their 12* cents on Sunday towards such a foward thinking idea.
It might help to have a broader scale and some relativity in this little experiment.
September 29, 2009 at 10:28 pm
I’d be happy to participate. Sounds perfectly logical and, thus, anathema to the institution of college football. I’m game.
July 23, 2008 at 8:32 am
I did see it, and it’s a good suggestion.
I’m not sure how many others want to go to the trouble of managing a poll. If you watch what Brian Cook goes through in running the BlogPoll, it’s a little intimidating. Although I do think the Mumme Poll will be a good bit easier to manage due to its structure.
In one sense I agree with your point about conducting the voting on a broader scale. The fact that the vast majority of folks voting here are Georgia fans is something I’ll want to monitor carefully. On the other hand, if the point of approval voting is to reduce the element of bias in the results, maybe it’s a good thing to see how the voting plays out with that sort of a group.
It’s definitely food for thought. Thanks.
July 23, 2008 at 8:46 am
Is it Week 6 yet? I am ready to go!
July 23, 2008 at 10:36 am
I would love to participate in the Mumme Poll. However I have one potential conflict with voting after week 10. The wife is making a strong push to take the kids to Jacksonville and “swing” by Disney Land/World (which ever is in Orlando) the Sunday and Monday after the game. And you know what they say – Happy Wife = Happy Life. Anyway I generally don’t like taking laptops or blackberry’s on trips because work never fails to interfere somehow. So it’s very doubtful I will be able to submit a vote by the deadline that week. If this disqualifies me from participating that’s fine, I’ll understand and somehow move on.
July 23, 2008 at 10:46 am
dean – we’ll figure something out. It could be that you could send a quick e-mail from the hotel you’d be staying at.
BTW, Week 10 features a Sunday night game, so the balloting will be moved back one day as a result. Does that help?
July 23, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Another question.
How will conference championships play into the polling?
Will voting stop at the end of the regular season?
How will that affect non-championship
July 23, 2008 at 1:04 pm
oops…non-championship game conferences (once again) if voting does continue?
That’s one of the things I hate about the polls now, You are punished for losing every week, but a loss later in the season ends up hurting your team more in the end, even if your first (or second) loss is in a hard-fought championship game.
July 23, 2008 at 1:10 pm
oops.
…non-championship game conferences?
July 23, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Will voting stop at the end of the regular season?
I would think we’ll track the other polls in that regard. The last regular season polls come out after the conference championship games.
July 23, 2008 at 6:01 pm
sorry about those bogus posts, that shows how well I can operate my cell phone walking through an airport.
Feel free to delete them Senator.
July 28, 2008 at 9:34 pm
I agree with your premise and I volunteer.
August 13, 2008 at 5:32 pm
I would love to participate in this poll
August 13, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Let me try this again – with contact info this time:
I would love to participate in this poll
http://picturemerollin.wordpress.com
picmerollin(at)gmail(dot)com
August 15, 2008 at 8:07 am
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August 15, 2008 at 11:45 am
Count me in. You can email me at ramsfan1221@aol.com.
August 15, 2008 at 12:46 pm
I know its been too long since the post, but I want in.
August 15, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Don’t worry, it’s not too late. The first ballot won’t be taken until after week six games. I’ll take participants up until then, unless the numbers get too unwieldy.
September 15, 2008 at 4:19 pm
I’ll give it a go Bluto. Count me in. Anything to debunk the BCS propaganda by having another poll.
September 15, 2008 at 4:29 pm
I would be honored to have your participation, sir.
September 22, 2008 at 4:16 pm
just bringing it up again in this line of comments, but i totally want in.
September 29, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Just sent in my poll.
September 29, 2008 at 4:39 pm
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October 6, 2008 at 12:12 pm
[...] before I am voting in Senator Blutarsky’s Mumme Poll. You can read the basics about it here and check his site for the results. In a nutshell is doesn’t begin until this week (week six [...]
October 13, 2008 at 10:18 am
[...] Each week, Senator Blutarsky at Get the Picture hosts the Mumme Poll. He does a great job explaining it in the link, so please take the time to look at [...]
October 14, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I’d like to vote, if possible. Your site is pretty cool.
October 15, 2008 at 7:51 am
Joel, thanks for the offer and the praise. Unfortunately, I can’t add people at this point, but keep it mind for next season.
October 18, 2008 at 11:44 am
That’s hilarious. I knew Hal Mumme when he was the coach at Valdosta State University (I was in high school). Not too many brain cells accounted for on that guy.
December 8, 2008 at 6:49 pm
[...] December 8, 2008 in College Football, Mumme Poll My last vote, at least until post-bowl season, in Senator Blutarsky’s Mumme Poll. [...]
July 15, 2009 at 9:22 am
Are you doing this again in 2009? Need a Pac Ten guy?
July 15, 2009 at 9:56 am
I am, and I’d be very happy to have you participate.
July 21, 2009 at 2:14 pm
I would love to participate in the Mumme Poll
July 23, 2009 at 2:21 pm
I would like to volunteer for the Mumme Poll.
Seems like an interesting idea, I would like to see how it comes out compared to the other polls
July 31, 2009 at 4:22 pm
I would love to participate in this poll. I’m an avid college football fan and from what I read about this poll or experiment, it seams very fair. I’m also a HUGE Dawg fan but I promise not to let that get in the way of my judgement. I also enjoy reading “Get the Picture” on a fairly regular basis. Great name for a blog!!
August 5, 2009 at 7:23 am
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September 9, 2009 at 10:30 am
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September 29, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I would like to participate again this year.
September 29, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Check out whobeat.net, a win-based seeding process for D-1A football. All 120 teams start out at #1. The only data utilized for positioning is the “W”. Teams create the data/outcomes and thusly position themselves based on each team’s success against their respective schedules . This process is purely about the “W” and establishing values for head-to-head victories. The info at whobeat.net is the kind of info needed by anyone participating in a vote-based football poll such as the Mumme–I want to play too! OK?
September 29, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Senator, I participated in last year’s poll. What is the registration process for this year? How will the new “structure” change the way ballots are submitted, or timing? Thanks.
(PS The way the game results have obliterated the top ranked teams so far this season, this method of waiting until after Game 6 is even further validated!)
September 29, 2009 at 9:23 pm
I’ll have a post up in the next day or so about registration. In my opinion, the voting process is greatly improved over last year.
Timing won’t change.
September 29, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Found a link to this on David Hale’s blog (http://dawg-extra.blogspot.com/)
Great idea! Would love to participate if possible.