A.J. Turman learns the hard way that there’s a new sheriff in town.
I think we just got our first real clue about roster management going forward.
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“We remember the Sugar Bowl, I think it my junior year of high school, we let Alabama beat us twice,” Brinson said of a team that also lost to the Crimson Tide in the SEC Championship game. “We’re not letting Alabama beat us twice. In the Sugar Bowl in 2018, they… thought they should have been in the playoffs and lost to Texas.” -- AB-H, 12/27/23
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Good luck to the kid. I hope he has success elsewhere.
I wonder why Kirby would limit transfers to Miami, unless he felt like Richt was poaching players. We don’t play Miami. I guess he could transfer to UCF or FSU.
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I don’t think it’s as much Richt poaching as much as not wanting to just let anybody who doesn’t care for the new environment to go running down to Miami. If they are going to quit, then they’ll need to think about going someplace entirely new.
Frankly, if that is CKS’s philosophy, I think its fair (other than the whole “anybody should be able to transfer anywhere, anytime, any reason” argument which is another discussion).
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I’d like to clarify my position. Kirby is within his rights and may be dealing with a crew of young men with some still raw feelings about a coach who “loved them”. He’s telling AJ he can leave, but not go chasing Richt. Maybe Kirby thinks that’s in AJ’s best interest. Hell, he may have offered to put a call in to Saban for him for all we know.
But CFB should end the restrictions. If Kirby did this without any discussion with AJ then it’s a dick move. I hope he’s better than that. Like I said in the other post, Kirby can try to win with class, but we’ve turned the page, votes are in, and now is the time to win first, even if class has to take a back seat. If this little experiment fails, then I guess we go “all in” classless like Auburn. Chizik is still holding on line 3 for McGarity.
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The second we become like Auburn, UGA won’t see another penny from me. UGA is about a hell of a lot more than football but it’s getting harder to tell, which is not a good trend.
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+100
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I certainly can see him limiting a transfer to UF but the Miami limit just seems to be petty to me. This is why the NCAA is going to get all it’s toys taken away. There should be no restrictions and there should be no one year rule. All the people that say the CFB is a plantation system maybe going overboard but keeping the kids from transferring to a school they want to attend or getting their rights to their likeness is certainly not going to build the NCAA case. Save me the augment that it would be chaos, if the kid is happy he will not transfer. The coaches would just have to work harder for their multi-million dollar pay.
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About damn time.
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Wow, restricting schools that we never, ever play.
Good to know that not only as our new guy an unknown in terms of HC ability, but also a complete dipshit. UGA is now one of the bad guys.
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Lighten up, Francis. We’re not the bad guys, we’re just not going to put at ourself at a deliberate competitive disadvantage like the last decade and a half.
It’s just as AusDawg said: “I don’t think it’s as much Richt poaching as much as not wanting to just let anybody who doesn’t care for the new environment to go running down to Miami. If they are going to quit, then they’ll need to think about going someplace entirely new.”
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“Not putting ourselves at a competitive disadvantage?” Really?
The kid could not get on the field for one play. If he restrict his transfer we have one of the 85 scholarships being held by a player who is not good enough to play. How are we “disadvantage[d]” “competitively” by keeping a player we cannot use on the roster?
If he is not good enough to even play on special teams for us why are we “disadvantaged” if UF wants to use a scholarship for a guy who is not SEC caliber?
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I think he’s saying overall, not just this case. Let one do it, and they all want to. I personally couldn’t care less, but I do think setting a precedent is necessary
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Pull for Miami.
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He has been since early December. The three or four people that REALLY got their panties in a wad over the Richt firing are easily identifiable on here.
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As opposed to the ones who had their panties in a wad about him coaching who are very hard to id.
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So a year ago, we would have been saying the exact same things about an SEC coach that did this. Now that it’s our guy, the practice is just fantastic.
Sadly, you are right, being one of the few who cannot stomach that level of hypocrisy does make me pretty easily identifiable. I stand guilty as charged.
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So this kid can transfer to FSU but not Miami?
Sounds punk.
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H*ll f’ing yeah. I don’t know if Smart can coach a lick or if his assistants can either but I like what I’m seeing.
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fire Kirby immediately. immoral bullshit.
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Hell yeah. The new Georgia. Maybe we’ll win 11 games next year.
Make Georgia great again.
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It’s about time we had a coach with a set. Kirby needs to be a hard ass and get rid of the country club atmosphere the football program had under Richt. A guy paid millions a year should be laser focused on winning and shouldn’t ever let a player do anything that might hurt the program. Players need to know; if you leave, you aren’t going to face us again at some SEC school or follow your soft serve, low T former coach to South Florida.
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Yep, because there is nothing that defines a man as having a “set” like telling a 5th string running back he can’t play for a rival…
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Exactly the coach can leave anytime he wants and go anywhere but a kid stuck in the depth chart watching his only chance to show the NFL what he can do should sit patiently waiting for the chance to play. I mean they are only there for our entertainment who cares if they get a chance to fulfill their dreams. This makes me sick if Kirby can coach he should not need to keep players who feel they need to go elsewhere to bound to Georgia; he should be able to do it with the ones who want to stay.
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Yes because it’s not like there are 120 other D1 schools he can go to to show off his talents.
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In this Fall, this is very tough, in this Fall he is not going to take his talents to South Beach
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or a team who isn’t a rival, and who we haven’t played since about 1962. Impressive.
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Yep. Show how tough we are by restricting his transfer options so he stays and we use a scholarship on a guy who cannot even see the field.
Shit, if the kid can’t play and wants to free up the scholarship we ought to drive him to Gainsville and have UF tie up a scholarship on a kid who couldn’t play for us, but that wouldn’t be being tough.
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The Georgia fans who seem really excited about this are really gross.
I can’t say I am surprised, but it is a little off putting.
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agreed 100%. Life is too short.
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Yep…I liked the fact that Georgia was better than this kind of shit. Not anymore. Maybe this is the price of an extra win or two a season.
I agree with Debby above. If the players can’t move freely…the coaches shouldn’t either. Make them sit out a year or put a non-compete clause in their contracts.
This is garbage.
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For you Richt apologists……please go somewhere else. We’re behind the Dogs. It’s over.
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It has nothing to do with being an apologist … What’s wrong with a guy who wants to transfer going where he wants to go? I’ve liked everything Kirby has done so far. He deserves to be called out for getting this one wrong. I understand but don’t agree with the Florida restriction. The Miami restriction is petty.
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Every coach in the college system competes. Richt didn’t. Love him as a person. We underachieved.
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“Every coach in the college system competes. Richt didn’t.”
lol. Right. Not only did he not compete, he was the ONLY one to not compete.
Stop trying so hard. Our underachievement wasn’t because Richt was the only college coach who didn’t compete. Furthermore, his transfer policy never cost us a game. So for people who were really proud of our transfer policy under Richt it’s not unreasonable for them to be upset about this.
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“His transfer policy never* cost us a game…”
Except when a transfer DB went to Auburn and became their starting QB who threw a fluke botched INC that was miraculously converted into a winning touchdown. I believe you meant “never“, right?
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That kid was thrown out for stealing. Getting chucked and choosing to transfer are 2 different things.
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Not to some. They feel they should get to control these kids lives even after we kick them out of school and they spend a year at JUCO and then transfer to another school.
It’s like some of these guys dont actually follow the team.
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I don’t care where they go. I liked the old plan better…but maybe there is more to the story. As long as Kirby doesn’t start pulling offers from long committed kids, a couple of these here and there get a pass.
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Nick Marshall went to JUCO so we had no say in his transfer so again Richt’s policy cost us nothing.
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That’s a fair enough point. I forgot about his JUCO turn.
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You are missing the bigger point there.. He did NOT transfer from UGA.. He was kicked off the team, scholarship revoked. At that point, the school cut ties with him. He could’ve went straight to AU had he wanted to/been offered, but then another rule would apply, causing him to sit a year before he can see the field. That is why kids go to JUCO, so they can keep playing during the year that they are ineligible for D-1
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What does that have to do with the question at hand? Should Kirby restrict the ability to transfer?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Miami restriction came from one level up – the AD.
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Richt apologists? What’s amazing is that among the posts currently in this thread saying this is a shady move, not one mentions Richt. Not a single damned one. In a vaccuum, Smart is a dipshit for this move, and as someone pointed out given his own transfer in college, a hypocritical one at that.
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Did you buy the blog and I missed it?
(‘Cause if you buy the blog, I’ll miss it.)
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thanks, Barack.
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We have a no bullshit coach who is not going to bother telling us why certain schools are off limits. Kirby is all business. He doesn’t strike me as petty. There are 120+ D1 programs. I am sure AJ can find a home and I wish him well.
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Finally we have the coach our fans deserve! No more of these pinko commie b.s. transfer rules. We Will control our players even after they’re not our players! This is America by God. I only wish Hacksaw Jim Duggan was still around to put on our support staff.
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This adds more validity to the position of those who believe schools “use” players.
No reason to keep take away a kids choice to play elsewhere. As has been previously pointed out, Kirby didn’t feel the need to sit out a year when transferring from an in-conference rival. But he sure has no problem with trying to f*ck with that young man’s life.
Gotta whole lotta internet tough guys here I guess.
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I have no problem with Kirby not allowing certain schools. Dont like it ? then change the NCAA rule that allows the restrictions.
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Add McGoofey’s comment 2 years ago “It’s not our policy to restrict transfers” McGoofey the lying hypocrite. For heaven’s sake he’s a 5th string TB wanting to transfer to a school(Miami) we never play. This ain’t Nick Chubb y’all. Kirby blew this one. I like the practice conditioning philosophy but this is Bush League.
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Wow it is so refreshing seeing some toughnes come out of the HC position. Great call Kirby, the program is already trending up!
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I said above I have no problem with the UF restriction, heck I have no problem with an SEC restriction but as my 36 year old son said when I told him about the Miami restriction “That’s a Di*k move”. If Kirby wants to unite the fan base he is not going to do it by singling out Miami when we don’t play them. I think Nick Jr. had best explain this Miami restriction to the fans but I bet the media guys will not have the balls to ask. What section in Sanford is 37F anyway?
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Why is everyone saying we don’t play Miami? We don’t schedule Miami, but why couldn’t we end up playing them in a bowl.? Maybe even a very important one.
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Miami’s got so many freeking tailbacks this is is a joke- Kirby is a punk.
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By that reasoning, Smart ought to have prohibited the kid from transferring to any D-1 school.
And exactly what secrets about a new coaching staff is Turman gonna be able to spill, anyway?
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As much as I respect what you do, there are at least 60 teams – probably more – that have no realistic chance of playing us. And I’ve never suggested it was about staff secrets. The limitation is much less than that, and while I have no idea what Kirby’s reason was, it doesn’t mean there wasn’t some valid reason. I just don’t see any point in making a big deal about it – especially since it doesn’t seem like AJ himself is concerned.
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I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek with my suggestion, but you still seem to believe Smart would be justified in blocking Turman’s way to dozens of other schools.
The deal here is that there’s been a policy change and that it appears Smart has been given free rein to exercise it over McGarity’s stated position. I’ll leave it up to you to determine how big that is.
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If we end up playing Miami in a bowl, then we’ve clearly underachieved given their inferior coaching, facilities, and what not.
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“Nick Jr.”
OMG. Amazing. I’m stealing that.
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Talk about feeling “entitled”…. Kirby does not owe the fans an explanation – thats laughable.
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That’s why I called him Nick Jr. He has got no time for this shit(fans).
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At heart I like letting a kid go where he wants to go – it seems basically fair – but I think there’s a little more here than pettiness. If you read the link, this wasn’t a snap decision on either side. It’s also clear that while AJ would have preferred more freedom to transfer, he apparently understands Kirby’s decision and leaves on good terms.
I have no reason to think Kirby is being vengeful – that would hurt him in recruiting – so I think it’s best just to accept this as one of those details he is attending to as HC.
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I personally don’t agree with restricting the transfer to uf but that is what other schools do so I understand not being at a competitive disadvantage. Not allowing Miami though…..that is beyond disappointing. If we are going to pull this shit we better be competing for a a a national title every year.
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Q. If Richt wouldn’t play him while he was the HC at UGA why in the hell would AJ want to go to Miami anyway? Strikes me it would have been a moot point. Kirby’s tough love saved him a lot of heart ache. There, now both sides can be happy with this genius move.
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Good question.
I’m not in favor of transfer restrictions in general, but in this case it seems especially petty.
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I’m all for letting players transfer to teams we don’t play. I never liked the SEC and Tech transfers. I don’t think the Miami thing is baseless though. I would guess this anti Miami policy will be in place for a few more years. CKS is likely setting precedence here. He doesn’t want a pipeline of disgruntled players going back to Richt. Once the current players go through the system I’d bet the Miami embargo is lifted.
If you want to eat sausage I’d suggest you not visit the factory.
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Zero: look at Turman’s own words about coming in between the two big name pairs, injuries, perfect storm type stuff. After a second thought, it’s not too far fetched that he gets a different look at Miami.
I don’t know what all the young man is thinking, but it looks like he’s a big Georgia fan who made a good decision to transfer.
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I have been very pleased with Kirby so far. This however, is classless. And stupid to boot. Where is our AD right now? Hiding under the bed. This directly conflicts with the policy he pontificated on less than a year ago. I guess that removes all doubt about who is in charge.
Come on man…you are better than this. Let the kid go.
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That’s what I was hinting at in my last sentence. I would say that one of Kirby’s conditions for hiring was having complete autonomy over roster management. Looks like he got it.
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Or he didn’t, right? Smart is a dick for signing off on this, but did he propose it initially? What reason does he have to specifically target Richt, a coach for whom he presumably has the same respect shared by everyone else in the profession, and certainly his buddy Bobo and mentor Saban?
At this point, McGarity is guilty until proven innocent. Fire McGarity, and we’ll know whether Smart really does crap like this autonomously.
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Two schools.
There are hundreds of other schools. I’d entertain the Smart is a jerk argument more if there weren’t other quality schools, both on and off the field, that AJ could attend.
This seems like a non-story to me.
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Mettenberger and Marshall should have never played a down of sec football at qb cause freedom! Woo hoo! Go dawgs and fuck you! Trump 2016! America fuck ya! I want the governor to make sure that every high school player in Georgia that we want HAS to play at Georgia because America, but he won’t cuz he’s a fucking wuss!!! Go dawgs!!!! Freedom!!! Our slaves will beat the shit out of your slaves on shabbos!!! We’ll win and win and we’ll never stop winning!!!
Fucking pitiful. Who gives a fuck where AJ turman or anybody else who isn’t committed to the G wants to play? If he wants to go, let him. If he doesn’t deserve to stay who gives a flying fuck where he lands? Coercion and involuntary servitude is to illusion of control. THIS is one of the things I was worried about. We WERE better than this.
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Lol “We WERE better than this”. Yeah every where but on the field.
The rules say Kirby can restrict players. What is so bad about using the rules to your advantage? Who gives a shit if it is a dis at Richt. I don’t.
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You explain how this makes us better on the field.
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How’s your stay at the Four Seasons Nevis? Hope you’re having a good time.
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Not Nevis, but it is very nice: IMG_0443.JPG
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I tried to post a photo I just took with my iPhone but I guess I don’t know how.
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Or type my name for that matter…
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Derek, YOU’RE better than this… language that is. I’m sure you were taught as a youngster that cussing doesn’t improve your point.
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Thank you I so agree.
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WTF?
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015-12-17/study-people-who-swear-more-are-smarter-have-larger-vocabulary
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Swear all you want at home but it makes you look unintelligent when you use the f word so often.
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There is a lot of renewed excitement around the football program since the new hire. CKS has said all of the right things, hired a quality staff and indicated focus will be demanded.
Howver, he fumbled one away today. Big time! There is no reason to restrict a young man’s chance at fulfilling his dream that has a limited timeline. As someone else said, this was a totally classless and petty act. Not a good decision.
CKS was employed by 2 schools in the same conference at the same time. “Do as I say not as I do” is no way for a leader to lead.
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I was on the fence about Richt, but apparently we didn’t get complacent about championships, we got complacent that we could put anybody in there and still be just as proud of the program.
Kirby’s whole tone has been an annoying bit of “new sheriff in town” posturing – he’s politically savvy enough to tread carefully, but the clear message has been “ah’m a gonna clean up Richt’s mess” and I can’t say it’s made me a CKS fan.
And then stuff like this – going out of your way to be a horse’s ass.
Love my Dawgs, but tell me again why I want to make a point to show up for G-Day because this dude has decreed it shall be so?
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It is my opinion that he restricted Miami because he does not want any players that may be struggling with the new staff and how the program is run to just think they can run off to Miami and Richt. I wish that he would not have put the restriction on Miami but if he let Turman go who is to say that IMAC or one of the other Miami/South Florida kids don’t then start asking for transfers.
Nobody really cares about Turman leaving because most feel like UGA is not losing a great player but if a couple of guys that are contributors start wanting to go to Miami then I think some on here would maybe start to get bothered by it. I really think this is a one to two year thing with Miami. Kirby does not want these guys to think they can just run to Miami if things are not going their way.
Again…do I like that he did it? No. However I can somewhat see the message he is sending and it appears as Senator alluded to that Kirby is certainly in charge of roster management.
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Totally agree. I wonder if this move is merely situational and temporary, just to send the message to the current team that he won’t allow an exodus to Miami.
That being said, how many would actually go? 3? 4? How many of them would even be starters? Kirby should be able to replace them in 2017 or even with a graduate transfer this year.
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Thats just it – we do not know, but I am willing to bet he has a pretty good idea and that is why Miami was included…. The process does not do things randomly. And whether folks on here like it or not – we bought the process when we hired CKS, the good and the bad.
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Good post. I think you’re probably close to the real story.
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The NCAA rule prohibiting a player to transfer is akin to a company being able to dictate to an intern which companies they’ll be allowed to work for in the future.
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+1 nice work.
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I think the players should be able to transfer to whichever team they want, whenever they want, with no restrictions. That way all of the great players in college football can all transfer to Bama for their final college season and get maximum exposure while winning a national title. Makes perfect sense to me. I mean , who gives a crap if Georgia educates, trains, feeds and houses them for the first few years? They don’t owe Georgia a damn thing. They should be able to do what they want and look out for #1.
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Thurman must have stolen the strawberries.
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What’s the big deal? The university commits to the player, the player commits to the university. The player wants out, and the university restricts the player from following the last head coach (which could precipitate a mass exodus for players suddenly dropped on the depth chart, creating depth issues like UGA experienced under Richt’s last six years) or going to the biggest rival. I think Kirby is making a statement about Miami more than anything. “If you want a transfer, it’s not to follow Richt. And F Florida, just because.”
Schools will keep a player that doesn’t perform to at least hold up their end of the education agreement, even if they are medically disqualified or whatever. Nobody is outright cut from the team and the school. Having some restriction on where a player can transfer is not necessarily unreasonable. It depends on the cause for the transfer. Playing time? Some restriction is fine. Family illness? Restrict him to transferring closer to home (i.e., if sick family is in Florida, you have to transfer to a Florida school, not Alabama).
Turman’s best shot for playing time would be at UCF (cough in his hometown cough) or USF anyway… two FBS schools to which he is not restricted. He also can go to FSU, if he would rather ride the bench there.
If you really want a wide-open free agent market, think about how sad you would be if Chubb decided he wanted a shot at the Heisman, and Alabama, needing a running back in 2016, became his landing spot. Half the populus of Dawgnation was on suicide alert thinking Eason might sign with Florida, and he hasn’t taken a snap yet. If Chubb was free to transfer to Alabama without having to sit out a year (as many of the “unlimited, unrestricted transfers for athletes” crowd assert), and he won the Heisman and a Natty, you would be ready to revolt. Make sure you know what you really believe about that issue before spouting off about how the new coach is such a tyrant for abiding by the rules that are currently in place.
The laissez faire attitude of the past is gone. Placing very minor, hardly-restrictive restrictions on a fifth string running back shows that someone is paying attention to details. Someone is steering the ship. You might not like all of the decisions of the captain, but at least he has a plan, and is making decisions toward that end. Saying the same of his predecessor is a difficult argument to make. You’re just looking for something to be upset about. This is a non-issue.
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“Placing very minor, hardly-restrictive restrictions on a fifth string running back shows that someone is paying attention to details.”
…..Jesus
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I assume you are of the opinion that allowing players to follow Grantham to Louisville and letting Matthews go to Auburn was the upright and moral choice, consequences to your own program be damned?
Or were you just so impressed with my turn of phrase that you had an epiphany?
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Haha, you think I’m going to have an epiphany that validates the current monopoly control of all employment related to professional football and it’s de facto minor league? That ties students to a four year commitment that their coaches can (and do) abandon on a whim while we exploit them for financial and entertainment value wildly out of proportion with any estimate of compensation you could imagine? All because one of them went left for a rival school?
I wouldn’t be able to look at myself in the mirror without throwing up. It’s disgusting, and as long as the fans like you endorse it, it will never change.
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When coaches leave, somebody has a buyout to pay for. You don’t get out of contracts without somebody paying (generally). Paying players as employees and allowing free, unlimited transfers are not the same thing. Paying players as employees would entirely restrict player movement, much like every other professional sports league.
I’m actually in favor of some limited compensation, but if you want to play the players what they are “worth” or really what the market will bear, then eliminate scholarship athletics altogether. Just play intramurals, and get higher education out of the sports business. Let the professsional leagues handle their own minor leagues, and college football can return to its club roots.
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“When coaches leave, somebody has a buyout to pay for.”
Where, in the name of all that is holy, do you think that buyout gets paid from? That IS the money that we aren’t squeezing out of the players without compensation. The players are, in every sense an economist would understand, paying the buyouts for their coaches switching schools.
The profit margins for almost every business in the United States are razor thin because of competition. For athletic departments at P5 schools, they are enormous, and entirely borne of the monopoly control of the entire industry that allows them to exploit athletes without paying them.
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You are flat wrong here. The players aren’t paying shit in your hypothetical dream world. If players suddenly were all compensated for fair value, it wouldn’t make buyouts nil. It isn’t a zero sum game between players and coaches. It is a zero sum game between athletic departments and our wallets. WE are paying for buyouts and new practice facilities and this and that every time we spend $1 on something with an NCAA license on it or turn the TV onto an officially licensed broadcast of any NCAA event.
If players get more of the pie, the ADs will just enlarge the pie, courtesy of seat licenses, increased ticket prices and concessions, etc.
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…the royal “you”… not the Good Senator in particular.
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Shits given if Chubb transferred = zero.
If you think that doing the right thing is situational then thats you, it aint me. These guys should be able to transfer to any school at anytime without losing anything. I dont care if Nick Chubb wanted to transfer the week before the Florida game to Florida. I would wish him all the luck and hope that we beat his ass on Saturday.
For most employers this type of restriction would be illegal, especially when you consider that the stated rule when he was recruited was that he could transfer with no restrictions.
Smart should focus on building a place that people want to be instead of finding ways to punish people who want to leave.
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1) Zero shits if your star transfers without restriction to your rival the week before you play your rival? I don’t believe you. You are irrational, and, with no thought to self-preservation, may be a danger to yourself.
2) Non-compete agreements are enforced all the time. They are not illegal nor are they immoral.
3) The “rule” when he was recruited is the exact same. Richt chose to be more lenient than the rule, which was within his rights to do. Smart is adhering more closely to the rule.
4) How is Turman punished, exactly? Can he transfer? Yes. He cannot transfer to two schools (2, TWO!) out of hundreds. What is his punishment? He can’t play for Richt in Miami, and he can’t play for Florida. How can Kirby live with himself… the horror.
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lulz…
college football has no bearing on my personal well being. These guys should be free to chase their own path. It’s a hobby for me.
I really dont think that my employer could come to me after the fact and say I couldnt go work for a competitor. When I started it was stated to me and in public by my boss and his boss that transfers are unrestricted. I think they would have a tough case to make.
3 see point #2.
He is punished by limiting his options.
I am sure Kirby sleeps great at night. I will sleep great at night. I wish the head coach at my alma mater wasnt this petty, but he is and they never asked me my opinion.
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The actual analogous situation would be that you signed the non-compete clause (as in the LOI) when you came on board, but your boss said to you ‘Don’t worry, it’s just a formality. I won’t enforce it.’ Then, your boss is fired, and the new boss decides to enforce it – as is his right based on the contracts you signed.
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The AD publically stated it was GA policy not to restrict transfers so not just the coach.
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Blah blah blah …. something about opinions and butt holes. Makes since to never allow a transfer to go to SEC school, ever. Like a non-compete agreement. The Miami thing is about precedent until Richts recruits (who start) are gone. “Don’t even think about Isaiah.” Thats my buttho… er opinion.
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Put a non compete clause in the scholly problem solved. But the Richt apologists would still bitch that it was not done the Richt way even though he is no longer employed at UGA and it is Kirby’s team to do with what he wants, and for sure ADM has really no say so in how he runs it. ADM should not be saying the shit he does anyways
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Richt happen to handle the situation the right way. Putting in the non compete or there being a new coach doesn’t change how a situation should be handled.
This isnt about Richt, it is about treating people fairly and acting with principles. Smart didnt in this case.
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The people upset about this include many who wanted Coach Richt go be trying dismiss people being upset by saying they were Richt fans is missing the point.
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So it’s a job, hunh…
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May as well be. Free ride and education along with a monthly check. I think they should be paid at least the State minimum hourly wage when ever they are engaged in a sport activity.
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I give you credit for intellectual consistency.
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Bingo.
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All this just goes back to a portion of college football fans think that they own college players as property and they have the right to dictate all aspects of their life. They are allowed to have a scholarship, but only because they allow them to have it. No college player has ever earned anything if you ask them. They should all be thankful for what they have been allowed to have. And they constantly feel the need to remind everyone about this.
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Thanks, Kirby
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CKS decision makes me wonder if there wasn’t some ugliness going on behind the scenes during the coaching change. I can see the old regime trying to convince players to transfer, it did for a few recruits in the last cycle. I have no problem with restricting a transfer to a scheduled D1 competitor but there is a definite underlying message with the restriction to the U.
That said, I would hate to think that Turman was a pawn in a power struggle though. We also have no idea from the coaches on why he never saw the field except in scrimmages. I wish him luck on wherever he lands. Along with everyone else pulling for UGA, the RB use last year following Chubb’s injury will continually be a head scratcher (along with about every other offensive decision in 2015).
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Sure but aren’t they all pawns in a power struggle like sands through the hourglass of time
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I don’t approve of this change. College athletics needs to be about the student athletes, not about the coaches or administrators. Any student at UGA can transfer to any college they wish. Any non-athlete, that is. A player owes Georgia their loyalty during the term of their annual scholarship. Beyond that, they owe Georgia nothing and Georgia shouldn’t be allowed to treat them as property of the athletic department. I admired and respected Mark Richt’s principled stance on transfers. I don’t respect Kirby’s, though he could certainly be a lot more draconian and limit AJ’s choices even further than it appears that he has. I’m excited about the Kirby Smart era at Georgia. But I hope that he’ll re-evaluate this policy in the future. This is lame.
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A student transferring from UGA to Georgia Tech is not likely competing directly for millions of dollars with his/her former university. That’s the difference. Turman made a commitment to UGA, and UGA made a commitment to Turman. UGA honored their commitment to him, and were willing to continue to do so, yet Turman wanted out of his. UGA limited his options by two. Are we really making this a morality issue?
When Kirby starts kicking players off the team because they are fourth string, then we can have a morality talk, because that’s when UGA stops honoring their commitments.
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Give him time, Nick Jr. has only begun to fight (Bring the Process).
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“though he could certainly be a lot more draconian”
a/k/a Kirby’s next Roster Management Meeting
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I’m all for schools being allowed to block transfers. To me, not allowing schools would be covering up the real wrong; the fact that coaches can break contracts and move to any school they wish. In my opinion, the right action is to actually force schools and coaches to honor contracts. They could easily do so by not allowing the coach to coach at another NCAA school until his/her contract has expired. To me, that would solve the whole mess. Plus, then a prospective student athlete can really gauge whether or not a coach is committed to a particular school because the coach is nearly guaranteed to be there unless he/she is fired.
… sigh – that’s my pipedream anyway.
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Antitrust violation. The NCAA already has enough of those problems.
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If the SEC made a rule against transfers to other SEC schools like they just made about players with a history of assault that wouldn’t be an anti tust would it?
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Probably not.
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no because the conference competes against all other conferences.
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We’d be cool with that. You need us to whip you up an exemption, G?
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So that would still violate anti-trust laws even if you’re telling the coaches they can coach anywhere they want; just not say at another D1 school?
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The NCAA can’t set blanket rules like that.
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