“Gus Malzahn is overrated. Someone had to say it.”

Man, when they turn on you at Auburn, they turn with a vengeance.


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69 responses to ““Gus Malzahn is overrated. Someone had to say it.”

  1. Spike

    Wow, tigers eating their own. Are they still AU family and “ALL IN”, or is the party over?

    • Haha. That was my first thought reading that article.

      Mike Leach called Malzahns wildcat offense a “caveman” offense. It only works if your guys are all bigger and stronger than the competition. It doesn’t take any creative thinking or strategy. Defenses will try to angle in and take away the rushing attack. However, if your team is bigger then they will wear them down.

      Watching Teabag win another game last night with basically the same caveman offense, I almost threw up. I thought for sure he would fail miserably in the pros. Won’t he just go away? I can’t believe Denver is going to go “all in” with that style of offense. One injury to Teabag will leave them with nothing for the future.

      • PatinDC

        +1 Can’t anyone play defense in the NFL anymore?

        • NC DAWG

          It seems, on the surface, that pro head coaches or DCs refuse to simplify their systems to the obvious “caveman” basics — put one of your studs on the QB and keep him there.

          • Mayor of Dawgtown

            This article is proof that you have to act while you are hot. Malzahn better take a HC job ASAP while at least some still think he’s a genius. A few more 7-5 regular seasons on the Plains and nobody will be offering any HC jobs to him any more. Remember that Auburn offensive guru Al Borges? Where’s he now? Not HC anywhere.

            • AthensHomerDawg

              I think he is the OC at Michigan. They are the FBS leaders this season in touchdown drives of 85 or more yards.
              just sayin’

              • Mayor of Dawgtown

                I’m not knocking Borges. Borges is a good OC. The point is that when he was OC at Auburn years ago a lot of people talked about him exactly like they now talk about Malzahn and Borges is still an OC.

                • AthensHomerDawg

                  Not everyone who is a successful coach is capable of being the head coach. That doesn’t take anything away from what they do. Ask CMR how important his DC is. Not being smart ass here. But I’ve worked for CEO’s that couldn’t possibly do my job and a lot of their success is due .. in part to me…… but I don’t know if I could do their job.

        • yurdle

          Those Jets are built to stop Tom Brady.

  2. Interesting. More than a few Auburn fans I know are dismayed that Malzahn seems to have less influence on the offense this year than last.

    Well, should Gus bolt for the UNC job, then with no Malzahn or Cam Newton on the plains, I suspect this columnist will find out what “unacceptable” really looks like.

    • I saw the rumors that Malzahn is heading to UNC. I think that would be a good move for him if he wants his own gig.

      It is hilarious how people linked him to the UNC job based on his wife’s twitter account.

      Then there’s Twitter, which helped send Gus-to-UNC rumors to a new level this week. An alert Twitter follower of Malzahn’s wife, Kristie, noticed that she had started following the mayor of Chapel Hill, N.C., the police department, the UNC student newspaper and other UNC-related feeds on her publicly viewable account.

      • James Stephenson

        If that is true, it appears the NC is serious about hiring him and he is serious about going there.

        Plus talk about a cake job. You do not have to win consistent and it is a BB school. Just put a decent product out on the field, every 5 years or so have a chance at a championship game. Plus you play in the ACC.

  3. HahiraDawg

    ‘Class A’, so…did your daughter get in UGA or what? We’re rootin’ for her brother.

  4. Joe

    “But with talent like running backs Michael Dyer and Onterio McCalebb, wide receiver Emory Blake and tight end Philip Lutzenkirchen, there is no way Auburn should be behind Bowling Green, Middle Tennessee State and Ball State in total offense.”

    Really hard to argue with that sentence however!

    • He ignores that: (1) Blake’s been hurt for much of the season; (2) the rest of Auburn’s receiving corps is mundane at best; (3) the offensive line is very green.

      • SemperFiDawg

        and; (4) their recruiting budget was curtailed by 250k this year due to the ongoing NCAA investigation.

      • Cosmic Dawg

        And Middle TN State plays competition suited for Middle TN State. Auburn goes up against defenses from LSU, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, etc. He also ignores the obvious fact that when you have a championship team, you have to figure a lot of those guys are either seniors or headed to the NFL. The Plainsman writer is ridiculous.

  5. NC Dawg

    Isn’t that what people were saying in preseason about Florida’s “world fast” backfield”? Takes more than a couple of skill position stars to make an offense.

  6. TennesseeDawg

    Cam Newton makes coaching a lot easier.

    • yurdle

      Only if you don’t include the cost and burden of responding to the subpoenas and the anxiety of carrying nonconsecutive, large-denomination bills.

  7. Class A

    Thank You HahiraDawg, we’ll get the official notice on early action admissions from UGA late this afternoon. This is a big deal, her brother is now at Clemson because it is so damn hard for these kids to get into UGA. One thing for sure, she will be at the game tomorrow with her Dad, she is a big Dawg Fan and will be the prettiest girl walking campus this time next year!!!!

    • NC Dawg

      Good luck. Man, I didn’t realize that it had gotten so tough. I’m grateful it wasn’t always so.

      • Gravidy

        Yes, the Hope scholarship has made the pool of applicants several times larger than it used to be. Therefore, the admissions standards are much higher.

        • Mayor of Dawgtown

          Also, kids who used to go to a Duke, a Vandy or to an out of state institution like UVa are now accepting the Hope money, going to Georgia and their rich parents are giving the kids BMWs because they save so much money not paying out of state or private tuition. An unintended consequence.

          • AthensHomerDawg

            Out of state tuition at Vandy is about 40 grand a year.
            Georgia in state is less than 10 grand. I don’t see someone trying to buy a BMW with the Hope if they are able to afford Vandy. Those kids were driving BMW’s in high school.😉

    • AthensHomerDawg

      Good luck! It would be nice to have them both together at Georgia. Out of state tuition must be rough! Here even with the Hope and Harris scholly it runs close to a grand each semester for tuition and books.

      • Cosmic Dawg

        Peter Schiff on why govt subsidies make college more expensive:

        • AthensHomerDawg

          Apples and oranges per our situation. It would run me $7200. a semester for both my sons without these subsidies. With the Hope and Harris scholly it runs roughly less than $2000 a semester. Moving forward both are on the Dean Team and serious about what they want to do. They both have part time jobs <20 hours a week. They both pay their own phone bills and car insurance. They some times take over the house on game days invite people I don't know and play music I am unfamiliar with. I've had guests spend the nite that I thought had awkward piercing and weird tattoos. I bet they make fine accountants, lawyers and doctors one day. Miss the college experience ….. I hope they get it all!
          just sayin'

  8. Bulldog Joe

    Auburn needs to spend less on its coaches and more on its players.

  9. King Jericho

    “I hate to say it, but Alabama’s defense is more talented at every position than Georgia’s.”

    I have to imagine we’ve got them at least at one position. Jarvis? Boykin? Rambo? This guy is clearly an Bama grad working at the local paper and trolling.

    • Gravidy

      I hear what you’re saying, but he also referred to the Auburn OC job as “one of the most high-profile jobs in the SEC”. Hmmm… I’m not arguing that a coordinator position at Auburn isn’t an important job, but that language was way too flowery to be coming from a Bammer troll. I think it is more likely that he is simply ignorant. 🙂

    • Russ

      Yeah, he had me up until that statement.

    • yurdle

      We’ve got a really good defense, but go back and look at Alabama’s numbers. Mark Barron is a beast. Upshaw, Hightower, Chapman, all of ’em. We might be ranked third, but the separation between us and Alabama (or even LSU and Alabama) is marked.

      • AthensHomerDawg

        You don’t have to be better. You have to make fewer mistakes and score more points. I think LSU proved that already.

  10. stoopnagle

    I like to drive in my truck.

  11. Normaltown Mike

    So the writer’s premise is: “Malzahn is overrated b/c he can’t do more with our sucky team”?

    What garbage. Ok, if you’re Duke or Vandy, it’s a fair question. They expect to have sucky players and sucky teams. If you are Awbun, you ask what do your coaches do when they have extraordinary players. When Gus had a once in a generation talent, the team won a natty. The question of sucky players should go to Chizook and Coach Mix-a-lot. Why haven’t they built a better team yet?

    While I’m happy where we are now, in years past CMR and CMB have had some terrible lapses of “smarts” in deploying our talent (redshirting KM, expecting JT3 to pass effectively). If, on a lark, Cam had transferred to Georgia, do you think we would have one the natty last year? I don’t either. He would be buried on the TE depth chart and stealing laptops at Boyd.

    The author also explains away Gus’ success at Ark as being truly the genius of QB coach David Lee. Really? The QB coach wanted a RB to run a veer b/c the QB’s sucked so bad? The same David Lee that is OC at Ole Miss this season? The Ole Miss that ranks 104th in passing & 110th in scoring? Some genius.

    Maybe he’s overhyped but I’d say that Gus at least tries to find the most effective deployment for the talent he has. 2009 with a stinky Chris Todd is evidence of making chicken salad out of chicken shit.

    Deploying the pieces you have in any way imaginable to find a way to score certainly can’t be said of Weis this year and, to be fair, of CMR in year’s past.

    • Gravidy

      Unfortunately, I agree with your assertion that sCam would have been playing tight end at Georgia. That makes me wonder why Faton Bauta committed to UGA. He says UGA was one of the few schools that were recruiting him as a QB, but he sure does seem like an odd fit for the offense.

      • AthensHomerDawg

        I don’t know…. Pollack was here as a FB. He’ll figure it out once he gets here and compares himself to the talent on board. He wants his shot. Richt is willing to give it to him. Nice catch though. The kid is a football player.

        • Gravidy

          I hope you’re right, and I’m glad he committed. But some of the recent position switches (Samuel, Tripp, and Brandon Miller just to name a few) make me leery of this sort of thing. I’d hate for him to be buried on the QB depth chart for three years only to make some drastic position switch late in his career. If he’s gonna be a linebacker, I hope he and the coaches figure it out quickly.

          • AthensHomerDawg

            Samuel… Florida game…. we good?

            • Gravidy

              Yeah, I’m with ya on that one. But I don’t think I’m wrong for wishing he could have been more productive over his entire career than that.

              • AthensHomerDawg

                I give him a lot of credit for pulling the Bulldog Nation out of the losing steak we were on against the Gators. If I were a football player at Georgia and someone hung that cred on me ….. I would smile for a long …. long … long time!
                We good?😉

                • Gravidy

                  Oh, yeah… if I somehow got credited for pulling Georgia out of the ditch in Jacksonville, Albert Pujols couldn’t wipe the smile off my face with a baseball bat. But Samuel has a smidgen more talent and athleticism than I do. I’ll bet you knew that already. 🙂

      • James Stephenson

        I do not know. Here is what I do know. Given what we know now of Cam, he may very have been a starter here. But lets be honest, he would not have started over Stafford. However, he could have played the 2 years after Stafford left and been even more Pro-ready.

        • Gravidy

          I think Normaltown was imagining a transfer scenario where sCam would’ve only had one year at UGA – specifically last year – and that is the scenario that my comment was based upon. And I just don’t see the coaches moving heaven and earth to utilize his talents at QB last year – or any other single year for that matter.

  12. SCDawg

    “In 2010, Auburn was dominating on offense because of Cameron Newton. Malzahn tailored his entire offense to this once-in-a-lifetime talent and rode Newton the entire season.”

    You can argue the same thing about Tebow, Urban, and Mullen.

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  14. Siskey

    King Jericho-
    You forget that: 1) Alabama invented college football 2) The Bear was the greatest coach of all time in all sports 3) Alabama never faded they simply took a break from 1981 til 1992 and then again from 1992-2007 in order to let the other schools catch up so it would be fun to beat them again, and 4) Alabama is more deserving to get a rematch because unlike Oregon they “won everywhere but on the scoreboard” and would no doubt in a rematch find both a non muscle bound kicker who could kick and a Quarterback who could complete passes to someone besides Trent Richardson.
    If you take all of these factors into consideration it is obvious that Alabama deserves a rematch and would likely succeed in the rematch despite losing at home to the “Rainman” and his crew from Baton Rouge.
    I hope Oklahoma State wins out, we beat LSU and they are still allowed to go play for the BCS while we push Alabama to the Capital One or Outback Bowl where Saban and company take out their dissatisfaction on Michigan or Wisconsin. It would be the perfect punishment for Nick and may make him wish he were back at Michigan State where he could over coach and lose a few games a year where no one cared.

  15. I agree that there is a terrible coordinator in the village. Thankfully, he is not the one getting overtures from other colleges. Ted Roof is my favorite Auburn coach, and I hope they keep him forever.

  16. Cousin Eddie

    “He parlayed that into one of the most high-profile jobs in the SEC, offensive coordinator at Auburn.” Never thought of the au OC job as high profile?

  17. GreenDawg

    “I hate to say it, but Alabama’s defense is more talented at every position than Georgia’s. It might get 2008 ugly.”

    Wait, what? Can we(the entire country) please get off this ‘Bama has the best defense evah’ bandwagon. Yes, they have a great defense but that claim is just ridiculous. We arguably have the best player in the conference in Jarvis Jones. I’d also take Boykin over Milner and Abry Jones over both of Bama’s DE. Chapman is good but the rotation of Geathers and Jenkins is better, IMO.

    • James Stephenson

      I would say at least 8 of their starting Defenders will be NFL players. They have a great D, period. They are big and fast and probably mostly an NFL defense. I say this as a die-hard Dawg fan. But you watch that Defense and you are lot, OMG how did they get all those guys together at the same time.

      Imagine if Jim Donnan had a great DC his last couple of years, that is Alabama right now.

  18. Jax

    The “Family” can go to hell.

  19. Scott W.

    Alabama’s defense is better because they ain’t played nobody but LSU Pawwwwwwl!

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  21. BenG

    Jay Wisner should never be blocking on the quick screen to the slot receiver. He can’t block. And that’s nothing Wisner can necessarily help; he’s just 160 pounds.

    Carlton Thomas disagrees with this assertion.

  22. The Lone Stranger

    So this reporter feels jilted becuase Cecil didn’t spread some of his blood money around on him. Since Cammy Cam Juice took off this guy has no one to fulfill him? A rising tide is supposed to lift all boats.

  23. Comin' Down The Track

    No honor among thieves…