Alabama’s defense gave up 628 yards on Saturday. Let that roll around in your brain for a minute. But not too long. Texas A&M allowed an Alabama offense that only mustered 206 yards against Virginia Tech to gain 568 yards on the road. Georgia’s gained almost 1100 yards against two teams ranked in the top twelve – and yielded over 900 yards in those two games. Vanderbilt, which finished ahead of Georgia last season in total defense and scoring defense, surrendered more points and yardage against South Carolina than the Dawgs did the week before. Oregon piled up 658 yards of offense on Tennessee. In three quarters.
So is defense in the SEC becoming a quaint notion? Not exactly. I think Rece Davis is on to something when he writes,
Everybody’s wondering where the defense is in the SEC after high-scoring games between Georgia and South Carolina and Alabama and Texas A&M (1,200 yards of offense). You can have good defense, but sometimes good and veteran quarterback play will trump that. That’s what the SEC has with the ultimate winner in AJ McCarron, maybe the most dynamic player of this generation in Johnny Manziel, Aaron Murray, Connor Shaw … all kinds of talent at that position. And that’s why you’re seeing higher-scoring games in the SEC.
I don’t think the athletes on defense have changed. The expertise at quarterback is the biggest thing that’s changed for me, and that’s a big deal moving forward.
Three of the top eight quarterbacks in the country in passer rating play in the SEC. Four more are in the top thirty.
In other words, it’s probably a little too early to panic, at least if your team has a good quarterback.
Not sure if I read it here or elsewhere, but the comment about how we have to reevaluate what “good defense” is needs to be addressed. With the advantages in play for offenses, and the tempo in which they operate, holding a team to 400 yards is the new 300; at least against good teams, anyway. 23 is the new 13 as far as points is concerned. Sure, there are still inept offenses a la Arkansas, Kentucky or VT, so the 200 yard games will still happen, but against good QBs, defenses are going to give up points and years. Now, 600+ is obscene, but 450 isn’t. Bama played three pro-caliber QBs last year (including Mett), and all three put up points and yards on Bama.
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Jesus, this has GOT TO BE FUCKING SOCKPUPPETRY! What happens if Gurley gets 150+2 against LSU, another top 10 team?
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Not you DUDE, sorry PW.
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Split those stats up and look at “vs Ranked”. Top three are McCarron, Manziel and Murray.
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Murray is middle of the pack in the SEC.
He had one good game, and one bad game.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/qbr/_/group/8
UGA defense is bottom of the pile..
6 teams are holding teams to under 20 points a game
http://www.cfbstats.com/2013/leader/911/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.html
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So how would you describe McCarron?
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20/29, 300+ yards and two TOs. If that’s bad, that’s a good thing for Georgia.
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It’s “Fun With Stats: Week Three” edition apparently.
Murray has a 71% completion percentage, averaging 316 per game, and has a 4/1 TD/INT ratio that should really be 6/1 if the ACC replay official hadn’t been an idiot in the Clemson game vs. two top-ten teams.
Mett has faced two tomato cans, which is why he is atop that list. James Franklin didn’t even play especially well against Toledo, and we will soon forget who Brandon Allen is. When you get to the teams that have faced actual competition, you have Manziel who lit up Bama, Murray, and McCarron. I suppose as long as he is in the middle of that pack, he’s doing okay.
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TCU’s pass defense is right around Clemson’s.
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Oh, right. Let’s compare Murray vs. Clemson and Mett vs. TCU:
Mett – 16 of 32 (50%), 251 yards, 1 TD – passer rating of 126.2
Murray – 20 of 29 (69%), 323 yards, 2 TDs that overturned and spotted at the goal line on review, and 1 INT – passer rating of 155.6.
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Trey, you’ll lose that argument, Mettenberger had a 75 qbr vs TCU where Murray’s was 61 vs Clemson.
Both pass defenses are statically similar.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/qbr/_/type/player-game/group/8
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If you knew how QBR was calculated, you would know that other factors that aren’t necessarily his fault weighed Murray’s rating down (like sacks and penalties). If you isolate it solely on his passing contributions, Murray has the #1 and #3 games in the conference in clutch-weighted expected points added on plays with passing attempts. And those games were both against top ten competition. So, tell me again how Mettenberger is better than Murray.
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Sacks are 100% Murray’s fault. He can ALWAYS either:
1) Hit the outlet
2) throw it away
Murray historically chooses to look downfield for the long passes, and overestimates his abilities, and underestimates his opponents.
Murray has been 2-3x easier to sack than Cox or Stafford were.
Delay of game penalties are charged to the Qb, so that’s also his responsibility. Another major Murray flaw.
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Murray did that against the 77th ranked pass defense (Clemson)
where Mettenberger’s was against the 65th ranked pass defense (TCU).
Even though Mett faced a better pass defense, he also had a better qbr (74 Mett vs TCU vs 61 Murray vs Clemson )
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Murray has 0 passing td’s vs Clemson, where\d you get 2 from?
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If you were a Georgia fan, you would have remembered both the Marshall catch and Wooten catches where both dove for the pylon, and appeared to make it, but both plays were ruled down at the one-inch line. One inch of stat padding is all that separates Murray from an out-of-this world QBR, passer rating, etc. Because, you know, looking at stats without acknowledging what actually happened in the rest of the game is super helpful.
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Near misses now count for td’s, guess you won the Bama game then.
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When you are attempting to split statistical hairs, which you seem intent on doing, a rational person will take into account that a near miss (or referee mistake) can be the difference in a relevant piece of comparable data and senseless garbage. Given your participation in this thread, I see that my “rational” qualifier doesn’t apply, so you can consider this matter resolved.
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Bravo!
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AJ is also middle of the pack right now. He has a great team, and great coaching, but doesn’t play all that well (QBR) in big games, a lot like Murray.
How would you describe Zach Mettenberger QBR? Guess Coach Richt was dead wrong in picking Murray over Mettenberger.
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ZM didn’t exactly give Richt much of a choice there.
Thanks for trolling. I can always use the traffic.
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AJ & Murray both had 1 good game, a top 10 type of performance, and a below top 25 (SEC) otherwise.
Zach has the #1 and #2 QBR.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/qbr/_/type/player-game/group/8
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We should be operating with a Mettenberger/Hutson Mason/LeMay/Murray depth chart, dagnabit! In that order!
James Franklin is better than Murray, too! Next stop, BCSCG for Mizzou!
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I wouldn’t recommend you doing a head to head comparison of Hutson Mason to Aaron Murray in games where both played.
I think Mason beat Murray 9 of 10 times.
Please, let us know why that doesn’t matter, and proves how much better Murray is than Mason.
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Mason’s only appeared in seven games, including Auburn 2010, when he came in for one play and took an eleven-yard sack.
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I think G Day spring games are included.
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You were serious about this? Jeebus, that’s pathetic.
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Yes, Mason’s 90% win % vs Murray head to head impresses nearly everyone BUT YOU.
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Senator, you asked for it:
Here’s one year where Mason beat the pants off of Murray:
http://www.cfbstats.com/2011/leader/911/player/situational03/category02/sort02.html
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I’m sorry, but exactly what did I ask for?
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You used the word “only”, as if Mason was somehow subpar to the great, 2-10 vs top 15 teams Aaron Murray.
I don’t get UGA fans obsession with Murray, he’s a top 5 Qb in the SEC in 2013 in QBR according to ESPN. That’s nothing special.
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I used the term “only” as if Mason played in seven, not ten games. Was that incorrect?
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You see Murray is 5-11 vs top 25 teams, and 25-2 against everybody else.
You are impressed by the 25 wins against subpar teams.
Murray has only won 2 out of 12 games vs top 15 teams.
Murray is ‘only” ranked 5th in the SEC in Qbr rating in 2013.
There’s some “only’s” for you.
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Pretty obsessed with him yourself, aren’t you?
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Grantham averages 29 pts per game vs ranked teams in his first three years.
I expect that to be neat 40 this year.
He’s not good in those matchups.
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Richt should have suspended ZM for a game, Saban and Miles both went after him after he left UGA. Richt over-reacted, and didn’t like ZM showing up Murray so badly in the Spring game.
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“and didn’t like ZM showing up Murray so badly in the Spring game.”
That is the funniest trolling I have ever read here. Congrats, that is hard to do.
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No one was laughing at the time. But yes, Mett was dismissed a few hours after he crushed Murray in the Spring game.
Highlights are still on youtube if you want to watch Mett torch Murray:
No one is laughing at Mett now, as leads the SEC in QBR, and is ranked No 8 in QBR nationally.
Betcha Richt’s crying now.
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I’m laughing..but at you. You’re obviously envious of AM and the Dawgs.
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I will always remember Mett’s big win in the spring game. Do they have a monument for that in Sanford yet. McGarity, get off the reserve fund and make it happen!!!
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I thought sock puppetry was an ejection on this blog no?
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+1
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Mett torched Murray? I didn’t know Murray ever played corner. Seriously, if you think Mett was tossed because he was threatening Murray as the starter you are delusional. Take this sock-puppet shit somewhere else.
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Actually, any Qb who Richt thought was better than Murray ended up transferring.
Gray, Mett, then Marshall.
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Marshall wasn’t recruited as a quarterback by Georgia.
Are you suggesting that Logan Gray was a better QB than Murray?
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I am suggesting anyone with a pulse is better than 2-12 vs top 15 teams.
Yes, Mett & Gray beat Murray that year in Spring stats in the 3 or 4 spring games overall.
That’s why Logan transferred, he didn’t think Richt was fair, and he is not.
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Oh, man…Logan Gray…high comedy!!
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If you want a real laugher, look up the stats in the 3 spring games in 2011, and see who SHOULD have won the starting position? Mett, Gray, or Murray by the numbers?
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You stick to the spring game stats and I’ll stick to actual game stats. Those speak for themselves. I know, top 25 ranked yada, yada, yada. I honestly don’t see how you can still enjoy following the program. You’re kind of sad really.
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I can’t wait to see the AM-ZM head-to-head showdown in a couple of weeks! Anybody got 2 extra tix?
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I wouldn’t be too excited, Murray only wins 20% of games vs top 15 over his career at UGA.
Let’s just say LSU’s defense is a wee better than SC’s.
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LSU has the #15 ranked pass defense.
Can’t wait to see how Murray does.
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against the 64th, 91st and 98th ranked passing offenses. UGA is 20th btw.
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Kevin,
You are well aware of Chavis’ reputation as a defensive coordinator. LSU has finished in the top 10 in the nation in pass defense 2 of 3 times in the last 3 seasons. They will be very good. I can assure you, their 15 ranking in pass defense in no fluke and pretty good odds they end up in the top 10 in pass defense again.
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Smitty/JW, there’s a firm rule at the blog about sock puppetry. You get one warning – pick a handle and stick with it, or you won’t be allowed to comment here. Thanks.
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Me either, Roddi you ignorant slut.
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+1
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I believe the B12 and P12 trotted out those elite QB arguments a time or two as well. I think it’s more experienced offenses led by elite Qbs and young Ds. LSU, Ga, BAMA, TAm all have lots of firepower on one side and inexperience on the other. Things will settle down.
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Nothing’s changed, 6 SEC teams are holding teams under 20 pts a game. That’s pretty amazing really.
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Yeah, it really demonstrates how much strength of schedule matters.
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I think we are witnessing a shift in the balance of power in the SEC.
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So far, Mettenberger, Franklin, Manziel, Allen, and I’d go with Bo Wallace at Ole Miss as the No 5 since he’s had 2 top 25 QBR games in the SEC, and Murray and AJ only have 1.
Those 5 are more consistently good than Murray and AJ.
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OK, so which old troll is this one? BuLLLLdawg? Because I’ve seen this herby-derpy song and dance routine before.
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are all homers blind or just dn nation?
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I’ll take that as a “yes, I am indeed BuLLLLdawg.”
Now do the post where you explain that Mettenberger “didn’t do anything wrong,” and was a “G-Day stud.” Those are always great.
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I recall both Mett & Murray had alcohol flaps, Murray was photographed with alcohol in an FSU jersey disguise, where Mett got drunk in a bar. Richt ignored Murray’s incident, and kicked Mett off the team for his.So Mett did nothing worse than Murray. Saban and Les Miles agree with me, since they both went after Mett, two better coaches than Mark Richt.
Yes, Mett absolutely torched Murray all Spring and annihilated him statistically, just like he’s doing now.
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I hope your ability to evaluate talent is better than your memory, because the latter sucks.
Mett’s bigger problem was that he lied to Richt’s face about what happened.
Troll on, pal.
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The memories, I enjoyed the nostalgic picture of Murray with the beer can, oops Richt acted like he never saw this:
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/colleges/georgia/post/_/id/136/talking-fsu-shirts-beer-cans-and-shirtless-men-with-aaron-murray
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He also assaulted a woman. Looks like Thomas Brown is back under an assumed name.
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Murray was not yet of alcohol legal drinking age, breaking the law at the time of the photo, and against UGA bylaws of “possession of alcohol” but was never punished.
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This is what you call a “non-response”.
The idea that you can equate holding a beer can with sexual assault is pretty contemptible.
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Both had an issue with alcohol, both broke the law, both were VERY MINOR.
Saban and Les Miles seem to agree with me, and think your point of view if ridiculous.
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You have sufficiently proven your argument invalid when you say a man assaulting a woman in a bar, is, ahem, “VERY MINOR.”
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Ignore him and maybe he’ll go away.
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AROD’s troll efficiency rating is tipping the scales at 241.7 today. Nice work.
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“…a little too early to panic.” Too late. We Are UGA.
P.S. Lexicon needs a new definition for trolling with stats. Strolling? Trats? Strating? The manipulation of statistics to make absurd points has increased dramatically around here. Nuanced debate is dead.
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It’s easier to make a Mark Twain reference.
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I prefer Twain’s quote:
Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.
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Another: Suppose you were an idiot and were a member of Congress; but, I repeat myself.
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I blame Clowney.
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I blame Grantham and Murray.
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For suspending the greatest Quarterback that graced Sanford stadium?
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It’s amazing how much a troll can ruin a comment section.
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Did you know that Blake Barnes is the greatest QB to ever play for CMR?
Undefeated.
Un…defeated.
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This topic is even interesting and worthy of talking about. I’d like to get other’s points of view on the matter: a trend, a blip, a sea change? I agree with ASEF that teams are all reloading on defense at the same time, but I think there is something to the notion of high-powered offenses being led by experienced QB’s that can take advantage of that inexperience.
I don’t think there is anything that can be gleaned comparing stats in week three between teams and players that have played meaningful competition and those that have not.
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The SEC has the most talent its had at QB in some time. Manziel, Murray, McCarron, Mett, Shaw/Thompson, Wallace, Franklin…that’s a solid lineup. If you look at every BCS league top-to-bottom, the SEC has to stack up as well or better than the rest.
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I say it’s a sea change similar to the one in Drownton Abbey in which the ship sinks at the end of each episode leading some play callers to think that it sinks too early and too often
http://www.theweek.co.uk/tv-radio/46033/julian-fellowess-titanic-sinks-too-early-and-too-often
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Troll sign #1…. Using stats 3 weeks into a season to make an argument of who’s better regardless of competition faced with an incredibly small sample size. Run along now please.
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I I hate trolls as much as anyone, but we need to be a little bit sympathetic…I’d expect my little sister to defend me if I was in the same situation.
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Just what about Aaron Murray’s 2-10 record against top 15 teams amuses you? Must not be a Georgia fan.
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I’m curious, what era of Georgia football was most successful by your standards?
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Facts, facts, the truth tells no lies. Stop making excuses for your qb and defensive coordinator. They both stink in big games
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Guys, this GoBlue is definitely not the same as ARod!
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Is he www? Definitely a troll if he thinks assaulting a woman is a minor thing.
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I guess Saban and Miles are trolls too by your definition, since both offered Mett a scholarship.
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Well… Saban is short…
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Not trolls … just opportunists that don’t mind sweeping ZM’s past transgressions under the rug. Saban/Miles: “He’s reformed and has learned his lesson.”
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I’ll go the 2 coaches who have won BCS Championships instead of Mark Richt’s opinion.
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Which makes sense, since none of you had to deal directly with what ZM did.
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uhhh, nope. i don’t think sexual assault is minor, for starters.
in closing, F U bebby dalcer.
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Did Mett lead LSU to play in the SEC championship game last year?
Give me that fact. A fact that tells no lies. How’d LSU do against Clemson in that bowl game? Give me that fact….a fact that tells no lies.
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I do believe Mett did lead his team top the National Championship in his first year at Butler. Had a very Cam Newton like season. Which most expected, he performed superb at Georgia in his last Spring.
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Yeah, yeah…and Washaun Ealey was a better running back than Herschel because of ypc. Same argument, different position. Yawn.
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GoBlow is a Tennessee fan who is miserable. He was not accepted to UGA in the 70’s and went to a smaller college near Obknoxiousville. When Tennessee is hopeless, he turns his angst against Georgia.
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There is a reason defenses are giving up more today, but it isn’t one or two things. It’s a conglomeration of things, all of which are enabled by the rule changes that radically favor the offense, beginning with the rule that made holding legal in the mid 1980’s or so.
Since then, it’s been a steady evolution of rules designed to create more scoring. And today we’re seeing the outcome of that as these changes have become integrated in to the game. This outcome can take a long time, sometimes a decade or more, because it takes time for athletes to grow up and develop under the new rules.
For example, today we’re seeing very athletic QB’s, of every flavor, like never before. Whether they are more athletic pro-style pocket passers, or dual QB’s who are technically sound, accurate passers, the outcome is similar.
The other thing is the natural cycle of offense/defense as offensive coordinators plot and scheme ways to operate under the new rules. Steve Spurrier came into the League in 1990, shortly after holding was made legal, and began playing pitch and catch with accurate QB’s and great athletes. It took defenses a decade to catch up, personnel-wise
The League’s defensive coordinators scrambled to adjust, most of them without the personnel they needed, because the cover corners and defensive ends needed to defend the innovation had to be developed from youth. And there simply weren’t near enough of those guys to go around. Only a few teams had them, and fewer still had enough of them.
Similarly, what I think we’re seeing today is a natural process of the offenses cycling ahead of defenses, as OC’s respond to significant rule changes. Pace may be the major change, but it isn’t alone by any means. But the cycle has now reached it’s outer impact.
How defenses are going to catch up, and how long it will take, I have no idea, other than to look at past patterns. That suggests it will be a while.
I guess the outcome produces some entertaining games for the current dumbed-down climate. But competitive college football, to many of us, has always been entertaining. Some of the greatest games I’ve seen were low scoring games .. Georgia’s pair of 10-9 games in 1983 come to mind.
Pace is probably the biggest influence on scoring right now, for a number of reasons. Not a rule change in itself, pace is enable by rule changes, but controlled by the officials, who can regulate the pace of the game to their liking. Since many offenses are wanting to go as fast as the officials will let them, the officials today have a LOT of influence on the outcome of the game.
I’m not sure that’s a good thing. I think the officials have gone too far this time, and hope they’ll reel it back in somewhat. So far this season, they seem to be heading a little bit in that direction.
So, I expect this offensive cycle to continue for some time. With every cycle in the game so far, defenses have always caught up. I suspect they will again. But without some help from the rules, I can’t see how.
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There’s a balance of power shift in the SEC.
There are half a dozen defenses holding scoring below 20 points per game.
Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina are not one of the top 6 defenses this year in scoring in 2013.
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The top 6 defenses in scoring so far in 2013 are Arkansas, Florida, Miss State, Auburn, Missouri, and LSU. Ironically, only one of those teams is ranked in the top fifteen, yet Alabama is #1, Georgia is #9/10, and South Carolina is #12/13. Where is the balance of power shifting?
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defensively, the power has absolutely shifted to the top 6 you mentioned who have allowed the least scoring points.
Georgia, Bama, and South Carolina have been schooled.
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Come back in four to six weeks and tell me how well the defenses of Arkansas, Auburn, Missouri, and Mississippi State have done once they get into the SEC schedule.
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You guys prefer the hypothetical to the real here.
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Yes, because the next four to six weeks are only hypothetically going to happen.
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Greetings, gentlemen! The fact of the matter remains- Mettenberger was Mr. Clutch in the all-important G-Day game, definitely never did a single thing wrong in Valdosta, and Aaron Murray can’t beat good teams except the ones that aren’t really good because I say so, and also Missouri’s James Franklin is a top quarterback, AJ McCarron sucks, and the teams that play cupcakes clearly have better stats than the ones who don’t because they’re simply better teams.
(breaks wind)
I bid you GOOD DAY!
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AM passer rating v FL Atlantic 2012 = 249.09
ZM passer rating v TAM 2012 = 77.41
AM better quarterback, case closed.
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Mett’s 98.6 QBR vs UAB is a higher QBR than Murray’s ever posted in 4 seasons against anyone.
Murray gets sacked too much, has too many penalties, and is too inaccurate to ever post a 98.6
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I think 2012 is the only part of Mett’s career we’re not supposed to discuss.
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In 2012, Mett posed a 83 qbr vs Alabama
Murray vs Alabama in 2012, a few days later, a lowly 32 qbr.
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Good ol’ QBR:
Tell me, can you coherently explain how QBR is calculated?
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Something tells me Bama’s pass defense was ranked higher than Auburn’s last year.
Something tells me that’s a better measure of qb than Auburn.
If you think Auburn’s 2012 pass defense, was better than Bama’s, wow.
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I don’t.
It makes ZM’s performance against Auburn horrible. Wow, indeed.
That wasn’t even his worst showing. He turned in a epic 10.4 qbr against something called Towson. Double wow.
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Murray had qbr’s UNDER 10, against Florida and South Carolina in 2012.
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you’re just proving his point. both qbs had shitty games if you feed into the mythical QBR (created solely to benefit mobile QBs). would you rather that happen against UF and USCe (11 win teams last year) or Auburn and some FCS cupcake slaughter?
but, you know, twist whatever stats you like until it fuels your purpose and ignore those same stats when they don’t. super not annoying at all 🙂
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Kevin,
Qbr benefits mobile qb’s? Are you saying since Zach Mettenberger is ranked #1 in QBR in the conference, that he’s more mobile than Johnny Manziel?
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No, but it does mean that a meaningless contrived statistic favors Mett because of softer scheduling. After watching TCU derp it up against TT I feel confidant that they were just another cupcake to pad LSU stats. That soft scheduling out wights the bonus QBR points JFF gets for QB rushing yards. There is a correlation between QB rushing ability and high QBR, but QB rushing ability isn’t the only cause of a high QBR. I would also like to nippick and point out that there is a big difference between QB mobility and QB rushing ability. You can’t use the terms interchangeably.
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In 2012, Mett posed a 15.3 qbr vs Auburn
Murray vs Auburn in 2012, a few days later, a 97.1 qbr.
Hey, this trolling stuff is fun.
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But you posted earlier that the qbr system isn’t accurate and now you’re using it to defend Murray?
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Nope. I’m using it to show that you’re talking out of your ass.
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sloppy, can’t have it both ways.
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I keep trying to tell you that, but you won’t listen.
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pot… kettle
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Against unranked teams, Aaron Murray is as good quarterback–he still gets sacked and has penalties in those games, but overall he wins almost every time. No argument against teams like Auburn, Coastal Carolina, and New Mexico State he has put up some terrific games.
Alabama, LSU, Florida, Aaron Murray, other teams in the top fifteen, never has put up a big QBR, outside of the one fluke South Carolina game. I think his fear of Clowney forced him to change his game to things he’d really never done much n the bigger games like almost all short passes, roll out scrambles, and so on. If Murray has that same respect for the LSU defensive front, Mike Bobo might opt for a similar offensive strategy and that bodes well for Murray’s future in these type of big match-ups.
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I got all excited when I saw “91 responses”. I was looking forward to the insightful dialogue that I come to love and expect from this blog. Then I began to read….
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Same here. Walking away sad and dumber for having read the trolleration.
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Funniest. Thread. Ever.
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The fact is, QBR is, um, with the thing and the carry the one and when you consider….
Fine. I’ll admit it. I’m Logan Gray. Are you people happy now? Go Buffs.
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The point of this thread is:
1- SEC can’t play defense anymore
Really, why are 6 teams holding offenses to less than 20 points a game?
2- QB’s like the great, mr 2-12 vs top 15 teams, must be why
Uh, no, he’s not.
3- 2013 QB’s are SO MUCH BETTER than 2012 sec qb’s
No, 5 sec qb’s finished in the top 35 in qbr in 2012.
5 sec qb’s are in the top 35 in 2013.
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RE: #1.
By your reasoning, Georgia Tech has the best defense in the country this season.
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So, who are the teams to which the balance of power has shifted? Who is the elite quarterback we should be envious of?
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Damn, Hog, pay attention. It’s METT!!!1!!++++
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Didn’t you see how well he played against UAB and Kent State? Heisman contender, I tells ya.
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Colt whoever.
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James Franklin. A cherry-picked ESPN stat sez so!
Also Bama’s D is bad. GT’s is awesome! Herpa derpa doo!
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Yeah, Bama playing TAMU and GT playing Duke and Elon only proves that the Tech defense is now the 85 Bears’ D and the Bama defense is now Swiss cheese.
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I don’t think this multi name putz even likes any other quarterback, or even has a favorite team. He’s too incoherent. I think he’s just trolling for hits because he’s got nobody to talk to.
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Statistics is fun!
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They said no maths, I am withdrawing from this class. Can I haz a WP?
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Maybe we should just wait 2 weeks and play the game then we’ll find out who’s the better QB/team.
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+1 … That’s what I was insinuating with my previous post.
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The Senator has lost control of GTP.
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Now that hurts.
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ROFL.
Where’s that cat what posts “winner winner chicken dinner”? Is that Gravidy?
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Mark Richt has lost controll…
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