About a quarterback… or four

Who is anointed to take the first snap in the Georgia Dome is the topic I expect most Georgia fans will be chewing over the longest until the season opener.  One good thing about the way G-Day played out is that we got to see plenty of passing, so there’s plenty to argue about until then.

As far as my observations go, as you read them, please keep in mind that I’m the same guy who thought after watching last year’s G-Day game that the Dawgs had at least one quarterback on the roster who was capable of being a consistent SEC-caliber starter. So… yeah.

Anyway, here’s the cast, in alphabetical order:

  • Jacob Eason.  Is he the most physically gifted quarterback on Georgia’s roster?  He is.  For all the arm strength, did he manage to show good touch on his throws?  He did.  Were his footwork and mechanics more polished than I expected for a kid in his fifteenth practice?  They were.  And what about his presence in the huddle – did it look like his teammates responded to him?  They did.  Is he ready to start?  Yea… um, wait a minute.  He faced a vanilla defense, and even with that, looked a little tentative against the occasional blitz.  Nor did he operate much under center, which no doubt added to his comfort level.  He held the ball a little too long now and then, something that’ll get him killed against a good SEC defense.  I had a sense in the latter part of the game that he pressed a little to make things happen, which was understandable.  But, damn, there sure was a lot to love, starting with that first beautiful throw to Ridley.  They’re not going to hand him the job, and, in fact, I suspect the coaches are going to hold his inexperience against him a little harder out of a general sense of prudence, but you know they’re hoping hard he grows the most over the next four months.  Eason is the future.  We just don’t know when the future is scheduled to arrive.
  • Greyson Lambert.  Let’s get the obvious part out of the way first.  The pick six was the culmination of everything that Lambert does wrong – bad mechanics, bad read, bad placement.  Before that, though, he hadn’t been bad.  The pass to Chigbu that should have been a touchdown was beautifully thrown.  Lambert’s footwork was better than I saw much of last year.  He does have a good sense of what to do in the offense.  But there was still too much locking on targets for my taste.  In the end, though, if Lambert doesn’t hold on to the starting job – that’s not a prediction, by the way – I suspect it will be for something that Smart claims is very important.  He clearly lacks mobility, more than any quarterback who played Saturday.  He lacks escapability when the pocket breaks down and looks flat out uncomfortable rolling out and throwing.  If he keeps the spot, it’ll be because the coaches think he’s the best at avoiding trouble, but his limitations will restrict what Chaney can call from his playbook.
  • Brice Ramsey.  Lost in all the excitement over Eason was Ramsey’s very, very nice day.  He made some good reads, he rolled out and threw, he had enough presence of mind not to fold on a busted handoff, and, best of all, showed touch on several passes that he hadn’t shown last season.  More than any quarterback out there, he made me think that Jim Chaney’s a pretty decent position coach.  He had a couple of good looking deep balls of his own.  Bottom line is that he’s legitimately back in the mix, and after last season, that’s something I didn’t expect.
  • Nick Robinson.  Who?  Geez, he didn’t look bad at all.  Robinson went 5-7 with a touchdown on his one series and looked crisp making decisions doing so.  He also did a terrific job selling play action.  I made a facetious comment to my friend after the game that maybe he should have gotten the start against Florida last year, but, honestly, for a fourth-string quarterback, he hardly looked embarrassing.

I definitely don’t want to get too far ahead of things here.  For one, as I mentioned, last year’s experience is a good reminder not to do so.  Beyond that, D’Andre Walker and a couple of blitzes aside, the quarterbacks as a group didn’t face the kind of pressure they’re going to see come September.  Smart is right to emphasize who can make the best decisions as the key.

As well as the staff appears to have managed the group so far, the big decision to come is when to pull the trigger on making the big decision to come.  I thought last season’s hesitation to name a starter until very late in fall camp hurt when it came to developing timing and communication – and that was when Georgia had some experienced wide receivers and most of the offensive line returning.  This year, that’s not the case, and when you toss in the possibility of starting a true freshman quarterback, I’m not sure holding off until a week or so before the first game is where you want to go.

On the other hand, Smart thinks competition is the way you forge successful college players.  If he’s not satisfied with how the group handles the challenge, I don’t think he’ll name a starter just to name a starter.  Sure, Eason is the tantalizing option here, but as much as I’m sure we’d all like to see the young stud out there, what Smart wants more than anything is for one of these guys to take the bull by the horns and run with it, no matter who that may turn out to be.  In short, stay tuned for further development.

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  1. While Eason had the crowd justifiably buzzing, I thought Ramsey had the best performance. He was bouncing back and forth between the teams and looked much more comfortable than he did at any point last year. Right now (and that’s without consulting QBRs), if we’re looking to win the SECE next year, #12 seems to have the right mix to get it done. Of course, all of this is based on a 2-hour glorified scrimmage, so YMMV.

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  2. Hardcoredawg 93

    Conventional wisdom is Lambert starts against UNC and Eason plays in that game similar to what Clemson did with Deshaun Watson in Athens. Hopefully, he is as good as some think and take the reins over by the end of September.

    It is doubtful Ramsey plays QB in a competitive game all year unless there are injuries.

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    • I agree. Lambert will start because of experience, with Eason in the wings, and Ramsey as option three. However, I don’t think Lambert will still be the starter as the season progresses. Just a question of when.

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    • Just Chuck (The Other One)

      Agreed. Not naming a starter until August pretty much guarantees Eason won’t be starting in September.

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    • Go Dawgs!

      I still have nightmares about what might have happened if Clemson had played Watson against us more that night. Just sayin’.

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    • Puffdawg

      I always thought we were lucky Clemson didn’t play Watson earlier and more often or they would have beaten us. Hope UNC isn’t saying that about us.

      I thought Eason looked like an absolute gamer. Agree with Senator he pressed more often later in the game after coming out very settled. Opposite of what you would have expected. Disagree that he looked tentative under pressure (although I’ll grant he didn’t face a pressure cooker at all close to what he’ll see). Go back and watch his second pass where he makes a quick decision to dump in the face of said pressure (1:22 second mark below). He was settled and under control. I thought the sack he took were he crumbled up and fell to ground in face of 4 or 5 guys in his face seemed almost veteran. Remember Aaron Murray (a guy I loved) took a beating on here for not doing that very thing in the face of Clowney one time and it cost us big. Eason seemed to check down some (see 0:40 second mark below) but was also willing to take shots and was putting his deep balls were only his guy could catch it (2:00 second mark below).

      I will be SHOCKED if he isn’t day one starter. They may take it slow, but the hype is legit. I say that as someone who has never subscribed to G-Day QBR but as someone who has watched a lot of football. The other guys may have shown improvement, but not enough in my mind to warrant holding Eason back.

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      • simpl_matter

        I’m going to have to eat crow on my call that Eason is probably at or behind where Ramsey was last year at this time. Eason looked like the lights were on and he knew his role as leader of the offense. I’m not going all the way to agreeing with being shocked if he’s not the starter game one, but I can say I won’t be shocked if he is. Kid showed a ton of promise.

        I wonder if there is video of Stafford’s first spring game on the internet somewhere….

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  3. Cojones

    Lambert didn’t miss the pass – Ridley ran the wrong route that resulted in an interception – as per Smart.

    Robinson didn’t do anything he hasn’t done in practice. The only people surprised by his fine day was us, the ignorant fans. He is worth our full attention.

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    • Whatever. Can’t blame Ridley for Lambert throwing off his back foot while retreating or throwing into triple coverage.

      I am curious about what you know Robinson showed in practice. What have you heard?

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      • Go Dawgs!

        Exactly! Ridley wasn’t in the right place and shame on him for it. It’s still Lambert’s fault. Let’s say Ridley was there. What makes anyone think that he’s coming down with that floater of a pass in an area of triple coverage? Lambert panicked in pressure and just flung it off of his heels. If Ridley had been able to catch it, then let’s start his Freshman All-America campaign now.

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        • simpl_matter

          I have to wonder if Lambert makes that throw if Ramsey & Eason had not been having such banner days. You know the crowd reaction to the heir-apparent’s successes had to be ringing in Lambert’s ears. That was a 4th & F*ck-It desperation pass if I’ve ever seen one.

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      • Go Dawgs!

        Also, Robinson was playing against our intramural team’s defense. Good for him for having a good day, but our highly paid and experienced coaching staff is also not including him among those with a shot to start this fall, not just our “ignorant” fans.

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        • Cojones

          “ignorant” wasn’t a shot; it was a fact. We don’t know anything about Robinson because you don’t hear about him. Ignorant = lack of knowledge. It can be used other than as an epithet.

          Even if the competition didn’t equal what other QBs faced, he engineered a great drive that reminded me of Aaron. I’m sure the coaching staff didn’t equate his competition as anything except adequate to stop a drive.

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      • Otto

        Even if Ridley was in the correct spot, triple coverage makes it a very questionable decision. Overall, the QBs as Senator put it, made me think that Jim Chaney’s a pretty decent position coach.

        Gday performance alone, Ramsey gets the start. We will see, plenty of practice snaps between now, and UNC.

        I did like the use of TEs, and RBs in the passing game. Could be a big year for Sony with how Chaney seems to like to use the RBs, TEs, and slot WRs.

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      • Otto

        Agreed on Robinson, his performance also makes me question what he looked like last Fall. Should he have been in the mix? Just glad Schott isn’t making the decisions.

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      • Cojones

        My knowledge of Robinson in practice is gleaned from a couple of articles that mentioned his name in much the same way you did, but at least one observation came from a player’s (?) comment about practice and the good job Robinson was doing. I have no “ins” concerning practice and included myself in the ignorant unwashed.

        Btw, didn’t we compare the back foot thingy to past renowned QBs and found it to be ubiquitous ?

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  4. Michael

    On the Feldman/Mandel podcast (before they got to Mandel’s interview with Smart), Feldman related that he had just been to Alabama and that Saban told him that he had no problem going into the season without having a defined starter at QB. He didn’t have one last year until October when Coker distanced himself from Cooper Bateman. If none of the candidates have separated themselves, then it makes no sense to ignore reality and pretend that one has done so just for the sake of certainty. And if Saban has no issue allowing the QB competition to go into the season so that he can get a meritocratic resolution, then Smart will almost certainly reach the same conclusion.

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    • True. But Saban has the benefit of a much stronger supporting cast around his quarterback than Smart does going into this season at Georgia.

      None of that is to say he won’t hold off on making a call, but I’d say that Georgia’s chances at having a successful 2016 season decline significantly if Smart doesn’t settle on a starting QB until October.

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      • Cojones

        I think that the OL protection of the QB is most important in assigning a place in line for all QBs. Hopefully, Lambert hasn’t become gun-shy to the point that his effectiveness is predicated only on his own talents and doesn’t belie the performance of the line in concert; i.e., when the OL becomes consistently good marks the time to be able to separate each QB according to their merits. How long that takes would seem to designate the time that Kirby will be able to settle on a starter.

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    • Saban also didn’t need a game changer at QB when he could turn around and hand the ball to 5 star RB #1 or 5 star RB #2 or 5 star RB #3 that runs behind a 12 deep OL full of 4 and 5 stars. With limited quality depth at OL and the uncertainty around the RB depth chart given Chubb’s recovery, Kirby doesn’t have the luxury of getting behind a QB that doesn’t have the arm talent (or leg talent) to make plays on his own.

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  5. Go Dawgs!

    I think Eason has to be the starter. Maybe not against North Carolina. Maybe you get his feet wet in that game and then start working him harder against Nichols State. But when I look at the disparity in pure talent between Eason and the other guys, I think there’s a real opportunity cost for every snap that’s taken by a quarterback not named Jacob Eason this year.

    Granted, it’s only G-Day. Granted, they set him up to succeed Saturday. He wasn’t under center much (if at all) and he was running a limited package against a very simple defense. But I think he needs to spend every waking moment from now until August spending every possible moment allowed by the rules in the film room with coaches getting better. I think we need him to be ready to go. And, frankly, until we’re ready to hand Eason the keys I think Ramsey is the guy who should be keeping Eason’s seat warm.

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    • I agree with this. I think Lambert is already as good as he’ll ever be (hell–he might have maxed out his potential at UVA). Not so with the other two QBs–and both of the other guys played better on Saturday. I’d much rather watch a guy that will continue to improve than a guy that will look exactly the same as what we saw last year.

      Also–how ’bout them Tight Ends!? Watching that group was a nice change of pace from last year. They should have been a strength last year–and have only gotten even better with Nauta. He looks like a NFL TE right now.

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      • Cojones

        If you compare Lambert historically, then you should do the same for Ramsey. Ramsey has in no way signaled he has the qualification of starter over Lambert.

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        • I know Ramsey looked better Saturday…and the ball gets to the receiver in half the time it does when Lambert throws it. I have seen enough Lambert, thank you. I can’t say that for the other two.

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          • Cojones

            You may want to look at last year and the year before replays. If you think Ramsey has proven he is worthy of starting from this spring game, then I submit the NCAA record performance by Lambert last year in rebuttal. Nope, that won’t do because there were games he didn’t looks good that have been used to measure Lambert. Now judge Ramsey with the same flavoring.Do you think Kirby has Lambert as the starter because he and Chaney are trying to emulate Richt?

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            • No–I have the least amount of faith in him because I have seen him so much more than the other guys. I am not going to argue about it. That’s my opinion. This is a blog…where you share opinions. If you disagree…cool. Have a good day.

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  6. Athens Dog

    Eason is clearly the most talented. The sooner he gets the reps with the first team, the better. I’m willing to put up with freshman mistakes on the way………they will happen.

    But if i have to watch Lambert “game manage” again I think i’ll stick some sharp sticks in my eyes……………..

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  7. Macallanlover

    Not sure Lambert’s performance didn’t cost him any chance to play, he looked to be 4th best on Saturday. Not disagreeing that his “won’t cost you the game” rep may not carry over but he looked the least fluid and showed the most discomfort. Will be interesting to see if Ramsey takes his strong performance and decides to take being a QB seriously, or is happy to be a good punter that gives you a strong fake punt option. He made a couple of throws that were as difficult as you can ask, and why he was recruited in the first place. But if he isn’t willing to work his butt off and cut back on the downtown activity (as reported by many) you might as well hand the keys to Eason. And that wouldn’t be the worst thing from what he showed on Saturday, but the sacks at half speed were concerning. He has a gift with the strong arm and touch we saw, and looked very decisive for a rookie right out of HS.

    Not sure which way the coaches will go in August but they have bigger concerns than QB and receiver from what I saw on Saturday. We have folks who can fling it, and folks can go get it…and some of them are very young. Fun day, beautiful weather, and the promise of a team that looks very capable of 8-9 wins this fall.

    Hope they continue the non-Masters G Day next year but can drop the pressure to fill the stadium unless you can sell some tickets for reserved seating. Need to rush in for a decent seat took away from the fun. I always get in an hour ahead of kickoff so I am not talking about dragging in middle of the 1st quarter.

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    • This is my admittedly “never been in the arena” thoughts, but it sure seemed like they went even more vanilla when Lambert was in the game. Seemed like the coaches didn’t trust him to make certain throws that they did the other QB’s. Could have also been the quality of the opposing defense that he faced.

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      • Cojones

        Am I the only one to hear Kirby equal the QB performances out? He stated that all had dropped balls by receivers that were not the fault of the QBs and specifically referred to Ridley running the wrong route that accounted for the interception. I think he has in no way made up his mind as to a starter nor is he working on a timeline as some of us here are. The longer it takes, the longer it takes. Sheesh!

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  8. Bright Idea

    Is it just me or does Lambert throw a lot of balls just behind the receiver?

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    • merk

      He rarely leads receivers, but he has at least gotten past throwing it at their feet, as I did not see any of those throws in the game.

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      • Normaltown Mike

        I thought those were bounce passes.

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      • Cojones

        I saw both a low pass and I thought two passes behind the receiver thrown by Lambert. Also saw Eason put one down at toe level. There were several poor(?) passes thrown by QBs, but since I wasn’t in the arena there were no quality judgements overallthat I could make. They all looked pretty good to me.

        Why are we stressin’ on each throw when the QBR hasn’t even been posted. Where are all the QBR stats promised after the game? Huh? Huh? I demand to see QBRs from the Spring Game! How will we be able to give our professional assessments if we don’t have QBRs? Do we have to send in an FOI request?

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  9. I think Ramsey is talented, but he just doesn’t have the total package. It is funny because I think he could excel at a mid-tier ACC program like NC State, yet we have Lambert who is confoundingly poor mechanically and dreadfully slow to progress and pull the trigger… and we are basically succumbing to our fate with him as the starter… a guy that couldn’t keep the Virginia starting spot.

    I saw a lot of sprint passes and moving the pocket, which don’t really lend themselves to Lambert’s skill set. Lambert is probably a smart kid who can grasp the offense, but the physical tools just aren’t there. Ramsey has the physical tools. The question is whether he can grasp the offense and make good decisions on the fly. I felt like he was quicker on the trigger, especially to the RB’s, but he was willing to air it out down the sidelines, too.

    Eason is the prize pig. He has the look. He has the arm strength. He showed accuracy. He didn’t appear to panic. He is every bit the guy we hoped him to be in a practice situation. His growth in the off-season may make the debate a moo point. I think it is his job to win.

    If you think he is going to win the job at some point during the year, you should go ahead and start him week 1. Beating UNC is not the endgame. You can win the East and even play for a title (not suggesting UGA is close tot that, just pointing out the obvious) losing that game. Use it as a live-fire situation to see where you are. Then you have Nicholls and a road game with a rebuilding Missouri before your first big SEC test at Ole Miss. Unless Lambert or Ramsey really take charge and separate themselves, why not get the future some live action early and let the season will play out as it will?

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  10. Derek

    If you are an opposing DC and Chubb and Eason trot out there, what are you gonna do? Within that question lies the answer to who our QB should be on Day 1.

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    • Sanford222view

      I play to stop Chubb and when it comes time to pass blitz the living hell out of Eason to see if he can handle it. Eason could very well make you pay but until he proves otherwise you have to make him show you he is ready for college football and not going to implode under the pressure and speed of the college game.

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      • Derek

        That’s exactly what I’d hope for. Load the box to stop Chubb. When Eason’s got 4 long td passes, I suspect you’d adjust that. You can dare lambert to throw. You dare Eason to throw and you’re gonna get scorched.

        That’s the whole point. You can’t stop both with the same defense. If you try and stop Eason, Chubb kills you. If you try and stop Chubb, Eason burns you. Lambert faced 8 and 9 in the box and could not get them out of it. Eason will feast on those one on one match ups where lambert couldn’t.

        With that combo you essentially are forced to play base, pick your spots to apply pressure and try to score with your offense as often as you can. Otherwise you’re gonna get run.

        In short, you can play with Alabama with that combo because eason ain’t missing MM with 2 and a half steps on that first play like lambert did.

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  11. Chris M.

    Is it me or does everyone appear to be discounting Ramsey’s performance. Of the 3, I felt his was most solid. Lambert just looks like a slow decision maker. Eason will be the man at some point sure, but I left the game thinking Ramsey looks comfortable, showed good touch (outside of one pass to Harris that got him leveled) and distributed the ball nicely. Honestly, he reminded me a lot of David Greene. Workman-like, but has the tools to stretch the field.

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    • merk

      Ramsey is the odd ball of the group. We have heard raves about Eason and he delivered on G-day. We have all seen what Lambert can and most importantly cannot do.
      Ramsey seemed legit when Bobo was here, but last season the coaches would make you think the guy has no idea what he is doing. From the G-day games, he has always at least looked decent. It is hard to compare him to Lambert last season, as the coaches never let Ramsey have significant reps to really judge him on. He would get 1-2 series, then back to the bench.

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    • Cojones

      How about that Robinson! Nice job and next scrimmage we can take note of him beforehand. From his show on G-Day, I could see him as THE backup this year. You just can’t take anything away from him.

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  12. Eason will ease on smoothly to a starting QB as smoothly as he ease on throwing his passes.

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  13. Eason should show his ability to read and react on the different blitzes and defenses that he will see this coming fall for him to start against UNC. There should be enough films on Gene Chizik to study.

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  14. Semper Fi Dawg

    I have an IV full of kool aid in each arm. Flavor: Skinny#10

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  15. W Cobb Dawg

    QBs aside for a moment, I liked the way the short passes went to the TEs and RBs. IMHO WRs should be downfield (15+ yards) catching passes and stretching the field, not 3 or so yards out – which has been a trademark of our offenses.

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    • Cojones

      Yep, and they were targeted by all the QBs simply because the D gave that part of the field to the receivers. It is going to be fun watching Nauta catching the ball and then getting YAC yards like a FB.

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  16. TMC DAWG

    Kirby said that come UNC time, we will start the guy that gives us the BEST chance to win. Well we all know that it is Eason.

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  17. MGW

    People make a lot out of not going crazy over G-Day performances. But this isn’t Murray versus Mett; two guys who were going to eventually get drafted. That was a tough call. It also isn’t a reliable senior game manager who waited his turn versus a freshman showing some flashes of greatness. This was two proven so-so QB’s up against a stud recruit who played like a true stud. He didn’t just look better, he looked awesome.

    Its Eason all the way and it isn’t close. He’ll make mistakes because he’s a freshman, but the other two will make the same mistakes because they’re not good. Except in between the mistakes there’s the opportunity for greatness with Eason, and not so much with the other two.

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  18. dawgtor

    I wonder whether the idea that qbs can be broken by starting them too early is valid. It seems more like a temperament issue to me. Just like Ramsey is going to (reputedly) go downtown instead of study the playbook, I think Eason is gonna ball no matter what and not look back. He signed up to go to a school thousands of miles from his support system and stuck with that school after its head coach left because, IMHO, he has supreme confidence. I highly doubt that you break a kid like that with a couple of early losses or bad experiences. While I don’t think that we can predict which athletes will wilt under pressure, I believe that some people are less apt to do so and that Eason has done several things to indicate his resilience and confidence.

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  20. J.G.

    My Dad calls Lambert “Slo Mo.” No Mo Slo Mo!

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