Kiffin watch: Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.

I’d like to let this ratchet down, but there’s so much good stuff that keeps popping up to share with you.

— You can call me Ray, or you can call me… Great catch by Matt Hinton:

When Lane Kiffin’s first son was born last January, just a few weeks after the Kiffins arrived in Knoxville to take over the head-coaching job at Tennessee, the naming rights were a subtle nod to the locals:

Knox, as he will be called, weighed 8 pounds, 8 ounces and measured 21 inches. Knox shares his first name with Kiffin’s father, Monte Kiffin, who is UT’s defensive coordinator.

Naming a child after your new hometown: That’s commitment.

After a season swathed in orange, though, young Knox — who turned one Thursday, on the same day his dad was introduced as USC’s new head coach — may want to get used to answering to a new name in Los Angeles:

[Lane Kiffin] was born May 9, 1975. He and his wife, Layla, have 2 daughters, Landry, 4, and Presley, 3, and a son, Monte, 1.

— Ed Orgeron feels entitled. Using a UT-provided cell phone to contact Vol commitments in order to convince them to renege wasn’t the only way Coach O went out in style.

According to a source within UT’s football department, Orgeron called to have some of his UT recruiting information sent to him and became irate when he was denied by UT’s support staff.

— This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Evidently, Southern Cal plans on spending a boat load of money to get Norm Chow to, um, speak with the new head coach.

Kiffin did not want to answer if he would call plays next season, perhaps because negotiations with Chow barely started. But he did say, “that would be my guess because that’s what I’ve always done.” If Chow were hired, it is believed he would call the plays. More talks are scheduled this week.

Sources said Kiffin agreed to hire Chow when he interviewed with Garrett. But Kiffin and Chow endured a rocky relationship when they coached at USC together, however, and did not speak to each other for the last two years (2003-04).

But relations improved following Kiffin’s departure from USC in 2006.

“I’ve seen Norm a couple of times,” Kiffin said. “I think the world of Norm. And I don’t have any issues with Norm.”

That’s a far cry from in February 2005, when Carroll was asked about Kiffin and Chow no longer speaking to each other despite being offensive assistants.

“Their relationship has been the same for years,” Carroll said at the time.

— Mike Hamilton moves on to Plan B. No doubt he’ll incur the wrath of the AJ-C’s sports blogging community when they hear about this:

Will Muschamp, Texas‘ defensive coordinator and head coach-in-waiting, has turned down a lucrative offer to be Tennessee‘s new coach, sources close to the situation told ESPN.com.

The remaining names being bandied about – David Cutcliffe, Air Force’s Troy Calhoun, Louisiana Tech’s Derek Dooley and Clemmins’ Kevin Steele – aren’t likely to send tingles up the collective leg of Vol Nation, either.

— A little bit of history repeating. Whoever the new coach is, he faces a rather daunting task in the face of the historical record of schools who suffer precipitous coaching departures.

It doesn’t happen often, but when a coach abruptly leaves a major-conference school after one or two seasons—as Mr. Kiffin did this week after a one-year stint with the Volunteers—what happens thereafter is usually ugly. In the most prominent such cases over the past three decades, years of losing ensued.

But hey – Tennessee plays in the SEC East and has Alabama as a permanent opponent from the West, so I’m sure everything will be fine.

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35 responses to “Kiffin watch: Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.

  1. Macallanlover

    I have to admit Muschamp comes off looking a little weak in this decision. Why would you stay at Texas for $1MM and an iffy timetable (likely 3-5 years) to get a HC job when you could immediately get around $3MM to get the same job at TN? No, I am saying they are equal, but come on, for triple the salary? Plus, you could write an out into the contract for Texas when it becomes available. Not to simplify, but this looks like a no-brainer to me.

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    • Puffdawg

      Texas likely would not welcome him back. The whole Coach in Waiting thing requires him to actually be there. And maybe he didn’t like the UTk administration.

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    • You know what they say – nobody wants to be the guy following a coaching legend. 😉

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    • Normaltown Mike

      Very strategic for Will. Difference b/w 1M in Austin vs 3M in Knox does not outweigh other factors that are out of his control
      (1) Vols are in the most difficult division of the most difficult conference in CFB.
      (2) Vol program is in a degree of chaos that might take 2 seasons to correct.
      (3) Vol AD is sitting on a waffle iron so you might have a different boss w/ different agent than the guy that hired you (see Roy Williams at KU).
      (4) @Tex, Will doesn’t yet have to be the head honcho, which is nice when fans are pissed.

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      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        Plus Texas is the top program in its conference–UT is not.

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      • truck

        Another major advantage Texas has over Tennessee: 99.9% of their recruiting base is in-state.

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      • Phocion

        Correction:

        (1) Vols are in the SECOND most difficult division of the most difficult conference in CFB.

        The most difficult division would be the one with Alabama, LSU, Auburn, and Ole Miss.

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        • Normaltown Mike

          Correction:
          The SEC West is no longer competitive.

          Do you really think Auburn w/ Chizook, LSU w/ the Big Hat and The Old Misses stand to hold a candle to the Sabanator? It’s a one horse town so long as Nick is interested. Once he’s bored, it will be competitive again.

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          • Phocion

            No Tebow (Spikes, Hernandez, Riley) at Fla…UGa in disarray…UT – a disaster…USC and UK are who they are and always have been…and Vandy!

            True, Alabama is head and shoulders #1 but LSU and Miles will continue to be strong…Ole Miss will be good for the second half of every season when Nutt gives up on crazy schemes and just does what everyone knows he should do…Auburn is obviously rebuilding well…Arkansas is acendent and Petrino is making that offense look like all previous Petrino offenses…Mullen is turning around Miss State.

            I’ll line them up 1-6 and tell me where you disagree:

            Alabama > Florida
            LSU > Georgia
            Ole Miss > Tennessee
            Auburn > USC
            Arkansas > Kentucky
            Miss State > Vandy

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            • Hackerdog

              Don’t be such a homer.

              True, UF will lose players, but they done some recruiting in recent years. UGA’s defense will improve by default. Vandy is the worst team in the conference, but they won’t go 2-10 again. UK is on the rise.

              Of course, Alabama has locked down the west. The second best team (LSU) ranked 112th in total offense last year. Ole Miss is losing its NFL-prospect QB, and we UGA fans can tell you how well you can expect to do following that. Arkansas might not be able to win another 8 shoot-outs next year. I’m still not sold on Chizik. And I think MS State is analogous to Kentucky as programs on the rise, but with relatively low ceilings.

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            • shadrach

              I’d say those lists are about equal. There’s Bama and FL and a mad scramble everywhere else.

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            • Phocion

              The point wasn’t that the SEC West teams were all great teams, jus that they were superior to their Eastern counterparts.

              LSU may have been 112th nationally but they somehow managed to lose only 4 games, all of those to ranked teams…and three of those to Top Ten teams

              Ole Miss…perhaps not in the best position going into next year as the #3 in the West but they have a solid defense and Nutt will construct an offense full of surprises

              Auburn…We are now talking about middle of the pack teams not expected to compete for the title. And, if that all the 4th best team in either division is supposed to be would you rather be Auburn of the circus that is Columbia?

              Arkansas…don’t think Petrino can win 8 shoot outs next year? Why not, He’s go the same qb coming back with a year of experience at the helm (rather than being Year One starter last year)…to not do so would be against the Petrino

              Miss State…no way with Mullen at the helm anyone would rather be in Nashville than Starksville for the next four years. (Vandy is far more likely to go 2-10 next year and for the next five then they are of going 10-2 again in the next decade)

              As for the year that was…SEC West 4-1 in Bowl games, SEC East was 2-3…Kentucky was moments away from finishing #2 in the East…

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              • Macallanlover

                Sorry, you Bama boys are getting way ahead of yourselves. You have one SEC title this decade, that doesn’t make you all powerful, nor does it prove the West to be superior. Saban has done a nice job turning the ship around. We will see if you can keep it going, until then stay humble. You are respected, but no one is going to bow to you or kiss your ring. What a bunch of arrogant braggarts you have become. I guess you developed a little man’s complex during your “down” period. It isn’t very becoming. In the SEC it still has to be earned on the field, and you have one this millenium.

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    • virtueandvice

      Muschamp’s anti gun possession on campus views make it a bad fit.

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  2. Macallanlover

    After reading the Clay Travis piece on TN traditions being trashed by Junior….wow! How can that not have been addressed? What a scumbag. Hamilton needs to be fired as he had to know some of this. Sleep with a snake, you are gonna get bitten.

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  3. Tenn_Dawg

    I hate to get off the Lane bashing b/c it is fun….but does anybody else feel that CMR needs to address the DC position before the recruiting dead period opens back up? If not and it is Grantham and the Cowboys do not lose for two more weeks isn’t that a lot to ask of the recruits to hang in there and a lot to ask of the current staff to hang on to them. I understand that CMR wanted to keep this underwraps but does he seriously think that this can just string along without any repercussions.

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    • D.N. Nation

      If not and it is Grantham and the Cowboys do not lose for two more weeks isn’t that a lot to ask of the recruits to hang in there and a lot to ask of the current staff to hang on to them.

      Addressing things to the media != Addressing things in private to recruits

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  4. SCDawg

    FWIW, Gamecock radio up here is reporting new TN coach will be Troy Calhoun.

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    • Tenn_Dawg

      I like that guy and his DC. I think it would be a solid hire. The anit-Kiffin so to speak. He has NFL ties to Mike Shanhan and Gary Kubiak. Solid character guy like Richt except he gets his players to play hard displined football for 60 minutes. Of course all of his players at Airforce are top notch individuals so maybe that is his secret.

      Of course UT will have a solid HC & DC before CMR hires a DC then UT will come and pluck some of our defensive recruits away.

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      • The UTk faithful

        Yes, but what I really wanna know is…

        Can he recruit?

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        • Tenn_Dawg

          The guy can coach so if he builds a good staff that can recruit then he will be just fine. Heck Garner will probably be available soon if Grantham or who ever the guy is ever shows up.

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          • Puffdawg

            Holy shit, calm down Batman! We’ll get a DC when we get one! Remember the end result is the key, not the process. UGA will always have good players, just like UF, UT, Bama, etc. will. This whole DC process was been WAY WAY WAY overblown. Almost as overblown as recruiting. Who cares if a couple if finicky 18 years old decide they don’t want to come to UGA because it took Richt a few more weeks than expect to find a DC. Jasper Sanks was the greatest HS running back in the history of HS running backs. Thank God we had a solid OC in place to help lure him to UGA. OMG!!1!!!1!!!1111!!!!!

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      • RedCrake

        FWIW – At this late stage in the game, I wouldn’t be surprised in Air Force offered the HC job to DeRuyter to keep from going through a protracted search….plus it would probably be a pretty strong move on their part anyway.

        The only question is whether DeRuyter would rather be DC at Creamsicle U. or HC at Air Force.

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      • Dog in Fla

        Don’t fret. Richt’s got it all under control. They call him the seeker for nothing…

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        • Dog in Fla

          …even though, as somebody more clever than me but less clever than Lane, said, it takes Richt an hour and half to watch 60 Minutes.

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    • Air Force just announced that Calhoun is staying put.

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  5. dudetheplayer

    Will Muschamp = DGD.

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    • Tenn_Dawg

      I thought the very same thing. It would have been a nightmare to get kicked around by UT with Will at the helm.

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  6. 69Dawg

    Heaven help us if the same thing that happened to UT happened to UGA. Mass suicides, spousal abuse, dog kicking etc. We are wetting our panties over a DC. If CMR get the NFL DC guess what we will get NFL position coaches. Story I read the other day said that the NFL was going to alter for the worst the Asst Coach’s pension plan and a lot of NFL career assistants would be coming back to college. I think this must have already happened because both of the Colt’s old guard coaches retired but were brought back as consultants (that call plays).

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  7. Dog in Fla

    “Mike Hamilton moves on to Plan B.”

    Hamilton knows he’s got to get it done with Plan C now that Plan B, the Air Force coach, rejected the job because Hamilton knows Plan D for him is this one in which Hamilton has to cross-dress and wear makeup to play the role of the super hot blonde chick (who bares an uncanny resemblance to Layla One) making the tough decision to foreclose on some kind of a witch or something…

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    • The Realist

      Yeah, I’m pretty sure you aren’t supposed to mess with people with staples in their heads.

      Hamilton needs to get this done, ASAP.

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    • dawgday afternoon

      The possessed hungarian hausfrau was my brother’s roommate in Los Angeles. I hear she is a very lovely and nurturing woman. My brother, incidentally was a UT fan in his more misguided ways. Oh, the Kiffinfreude.

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  8. Ubiquitous GA Alum

    Best line I read about Kiffin’s kid being named Knox … “Wonder if they change his name to Troy?”

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