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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
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And make Bama, Clemson and The Barn pay for t!
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Stop letting dual threat QBs leave or projecting them at TE or DB.
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I don’t think we’ll have that problem with Kirby at the helm
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Idk. Maybe long term, but coaches are going to use Cam and Watson against UGA in recruiting for a long time.
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You think Cam could have stuck at UGA? He was tossed from Gainesville.
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No way $Cam makes it at UGA unless being in Athens would have made him decide to respect other people’s property.
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His dad was a pastor after all. He could have fit in. 🙂
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Well played
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The fact that Watson badly wanted to don the R&B, yet we didn’t want him is gut-wrenching to this day. Even worse, we chose future punter Brice Ramsey over him.
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Richt’s comment that “He’s going to win a national championship for someone one”, coupled with the fact that we were late to offer is what kills me.
It seems like once we actually realized what he was, we were interested, but we were lazy and got beat to the punch.
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So maybe if we had 93 special assistants to the assistants we mighta noticed earlier, huh?
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Maybe, but that’s weak sauce. Richt/Bobo effed up epically on this one. I don’t think that even they themselves wouldn’t admit that.
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No doubt they would. Really hard to figure, you know? Like Dooley and Mike Cavan deciding Herschel did not play in a tough league.
Oh, and can I vote for the Hypeman to immediately remodel its governing board…what a massive fuck up.
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Yup. Just an incredibly frustrating situation.
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This is the lie that will never end. We needed a QB desperately in the class ahead of Watson. We were zeroed in on Ramsey. We wanted to make sure Ramsey didn’t flip to Bama, which was a serious concern at that point. Ramsey signs and Bobo is in the truck to Gainesville to offer Watson in person, a full year before he enrolls at Clemson.
Watson committed as a sophomore. UGA wanted Watson badly. They chose to make sure they had Ramsey in hand before the full court press on Watson. Bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush.
Did it work out? No. As they say in sales, 2nd place doesn’t pay very well. Richt got beat, but there was a rationale behind it. It wasn’t just some haphazard approach. Also, every recruiting report from Watson was that Chad Morris was going to build an entire offense around Watson that closely matched his high school offense, and that he would stay for Watson’s entire career.
If Watson truly wanted to don the R&B as you claim, he had every opportunity. It was an uphill sell for Richt the whole way and he just never got it done with Watson.
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And Ramsey turns out to be a very average punter. Recruiting is some weird shit, there, ya know?
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If QB recruiting and roster management were easy, Saban would not have started a true freshman this year. It’d have been a RedShirt Junior.
The days of stockpiling QBs like FSU did in the 90s is likely over as QBs expect to come in and compete as a freshman, which is probably why Lawrence is headed to Clemson. He’s #2 on depth chart on arrival versus #3 at UGA.
This is not an apologia for Richt, it’s just not as simple as “richt= bad.” I mean good lord, he had the best run of QB play over 14 years as anyone in the country. He whiffed on Lemay and Ramsey, but I’d say he nailed Eason. The book is still to be written on Park, but for whatever reason, he wanted out.
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Well said, but we shouldn’t let facts get in the way of a good narrative. You can look at the recruiting profiles of Ramsey, Park and Watson. All were 4 star recruits with multiple offers from all the big schools.
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And that good narrative is always a great hind sight one. After all, in some folks minds, everything wrong with UGA football is still the former staffs fault. Hell, Eason sucks and that is the former staffs fault. (sarcasm)
UGA fans gotta love em.
Do not know which is worse football fans and hind sight or politics and hind sight.
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Park is doing well at Iowa State.
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I didn’t realize it until your comment but I have now looked it up. Jacob Park was the starter at Iowa State the second half of last season and had great games against Kansas and Texas Tech resulting in wins for the Cyclones. He’s projected as the starter next year, too.
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+1
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There is a large segment of the population that doesn’t give a third of a turd about logic, reason, or truth. They would rather devolve into an unironic circlejerk of emotion reactions to things that didn’t happen than discuss reality. As far as they are concerned, not offering Watson until he was a Junior in order to secure Ramsey is the same thing as spitting in his face, calling him a stupid n-word, and telling him that he will never get an offer from Georgia. Welcome to post-modernism.
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Those first two sentences are epic, sir. It’s easier for most people to make decisions using emotion rather than logic or reason. Most decisions made from emotion do not end well.
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You nailed that. Yep, welcome to 2017 and beyond, no matter what your political stance or sports stance is.
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We call it the “Post-Truth” society. Empiricism be damned.
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There is a tweet on another site posted by DW about our former OC not thinking he was good enough to play for UGA. Surely that ain’t for real.
If it is I have to eat some crow, I didn’t think we ever had a shot at him.
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We offered too late. He formed a bond with Chad Morris early and he wasn’t going anywhere but Clemson.
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Yeah, but what does Darrell Waltrip know bout footbaw?
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Pretty sure CMB didn’t recruit him either. 🙂
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My hope over the next month is that the kids on our team got to witness what happens when you do your job, play 60 minutes of football, and beat Alabama on the last drive. If we ever make it to Atlanta again our team will know that Alabama isn’t unbeatable.
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We’ll also know to call a pick on the final play.
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You think the refs let that slide if the receivers are wearing red and black?
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What’s the rule on that? Much as I’m glad Clempson got the W, they got away with offensive pass interference time & time again.
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Wasn’t the only pick play by Clemson…the previous touchdown by Williams was exactly the same execution by the receivers…don’t know why the defenders didn’t call a swap the second pick????
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“know to call a pick play on every down from the 5 yard line in” FIFY
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Clemson doesn’t win that game without Watson. Scary thing about Bama is that this season was probably as bad as they will be on offense with Hurts running the show.
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Hurts performance last night leads me to believe there is open competition at qb next year at Bama. The kids with the unpronounceable name from Hawaii will get a serious look.
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That maybe true, but the fact he led them to an undefeated season and was 1 second from winning a natty as a true freshman leads me to believe that he might be a little better having a year of experience under his belt.
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I think they won in spite of Hurts. Kiffen and the gun toting OL covered up a lot of decencies offensively
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Hard to disagree with that
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+1 Hurts will have to get better in the passing game, fans are really coming down on him. Still think it was more the change at OC. Little Nicky’s temper tantrum cost him, imo.
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This is a mortal blow to the “We aren’t Bama, why even try” mentality. A mobile quarterback from Gainesville who didn’t fit UGA’s offensive philosophy is probably the greatest college quarterback of all time. A nice guy cheerleader named Dabo and a school with a fraction of our resources and tradition just rode his arms and legs to a championship.
This should have been our night, our moment. Incompetence? You bet. When Herschel Walker, part two, heads over to Clemson with little resistance, it’s time to admit we’ve had big issues. Hopefully, this historically ironic and bitter pill will drive us out of the self-pitying doldrums and through the now wide open doors of success.
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That wasn’t the problem. Richt did just fine with Charlie Ward a couple of decades before.
Staff just got outhustled on the recruiting trail, which is bad enough.
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Just a run of bad misses post-Murray. LeMay, Ramsey, Park–just a huge bowl of busts.
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Yep. Part of what came home to roost for Richt.
Though they did a good job chasing Eason.
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Hutson Mason and Lambert were Richts QB’s – Come on! Also, Stop crediting Richt for Eason, who hasn’t really done anything yet either…
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That simply isn’t true — CMR/Bobo simply didn’t have Watson high on their totem pole, and only offered him after Ramsey enrolled (they were afraid Ramsey might look elsewhere otherwise).
Watson let it be known on quite a few occasions — both during and after his recruitment — that the UGA coaches didn’t want him.
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Did they recruit him at Tight End? sigh Sometimes gallows humor is all you have.
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If you think Bobo and Richt weren’t up front with Watson on their intentions to offer him, then I got a beach house to sell you in Bainbridge.
They didn’t get it done, so to defend their methods as effective is dumb, but Watson was Clemson bound from his sophomore year. his comments and visits backed that up at the time. UGA was always the underdog with him.
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++++++++++++++++++++++++ lazy recruiting=OUTHUSTLED
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Exaggerate much? Greatest college quarterback ofalltime? He is a great QB but there have been a whole lot of others that have done more. A school with a fraction of our resources and tradition? Come on.
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No kidding, talk about baloney.
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yeah, somebody CLEARLY never saw Reggie Ball take a snap.
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Reggie was a part time player at UGA.
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Sorry but I ain’t buyin. Even if Watson wore Red & Black the last 3 years… I still don’t think we beat Bama on this night or accomplish what Clemson has over the last 2 years. Too many other glaring holes. Did the thought that Clemson’s Defense may be what made the Tide O and Hurts struggle so much last night ever cross anyone’s mind? Solid football team all the way around over there across the lake. They deserve it. Tip your cap.
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Agreed entirely.
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Nonsense, Georgia has never had a quarterback of Watson’s caliber, exchange Watson for Hutson Mason, Greyson Lambert or Eason this year and Georgia is in the playoff at least twice, with a real shot to win it all IMO. Imagine pairing Watson with Gurley, Michel, and Chubb. The offense would have actually been unstoppable instead of the pretend kind when you lead the league in scoring, but can’t score against SC and Tech at the end of games. Clemson’s defense gave up more points to Bama than Washington did. 31 pts is below Bama’s average for the season, but it’s nothing to thumb your nose at.
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Greatest of all time? He was arguably not even the best qb in 2016 seeing as how Lamar Jackson beat him out for the heisman. Watson is very good, and I wish Bobo hadn’t dropped the ball in his recruitment, but I’d still take Tebow, Vince Young, or Cam Newton any day. Heck I’d even take Manziel or RG3 over Watson.
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Greatest college quarterback of all time? Dial it back a smidge
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You honestly think Watson is considered “the greatest college football QB in history”? Outside of Clemson fans (today), I know exactly no one who would make that case. Sorry, but that is hyperbole on steroids.
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Richt and Bobo dragging their feet and being indifferent on Watson is inexplicable. Perhaps Ramsey was just an easier get.
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Before you criticize, put yourself in the staff at the time’s shoes. Ramsey was more of a dual threat. In addition to his rocket arm, his punting abilities are second to none. If he can’t boot it 35 yards on 4th down, he can consistently hit a safety in the numbers 45 yards downfield on 3rd down. That kind of talent doesn’t come along every day, thank goodness we could see the diamond through the Wing-T rough.
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It is amazing how high people are on Watson right now.
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Yeah, because he was such a scrub last season wasn’t he?
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Did you happen to catch the game last night?
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The Knicks fell to the Pelicans?
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Absolutely. If you were to only read these comments, you would think that he turned out to be a pretty decent college QB.
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I will call Kirby the best recruiter ever if he can flip the GA in-state dual threat QB Fields out of Ohio for 2018.
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In other related news, after the game Deshawn Watson expressed a desire to play a 5th year as a graduate student at either Miami or CSU. However, both Richt and Bobo declined in unison, stating, “we don’t run that kind of offense.”
Richt took things a step further by reminding Watson that “life is about people, not rings. Rings collect dust.”
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Except we did offer him.
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Right — far, far too late, and only after Ramsey enrolled. We were literally a year late, and by then Watson had a close bond by Clemson. Richt desperately tried to ramp things up with Watson before NSD, but again it was far too late at that point.
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How can you possibly tell, when a kid’s a sophomore in high school, that he’s going to be as great a quarterback at the major-college level as Watson?
If we’ve learned anything over the past few years…really, since the recruitment of Charles Dudish in the late 60’s…it’s that recruiting is a very inexact science.
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Ok we are getting a little overboard here, staff went after Ramsey first and beat Ba ma to get him. Also offered Watson, but Clemson had wanted him earlier, he turned out great and Ramsey did not. Clemson also has a five star QB coming in that was best QB in Army AA game , and also some kid from Cartersville that they beat Kirby and staff on, wonder how that will play out. Also think we are whiffing on a couple Dual guys next couple years, will see wha t you are saying about them in a couple of years if they win a natty.
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It’s like people forget that Alabama was all over Ramsey at the time, too. It’s not like he wasn’t a coveted prospect. Could Georgia have recruited Watson harder earlier? Sure- but I don’t see it as this overwhelming indictment on the inadequacy of the previous administration. Recruiting misses happen and those players go on to do great things at other places. It’s not an uncommon tale. Hell – Alabama let Jameis Winston get out of Alabama and go to FSU and I heard he was pretty good or something. It does feel like sometimes that folks around here just need to find any perceived slight to have an excuse to bitch about the previous administration.
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That Watson didn’t go to UGA is a major reason Richt is no longer our coach, but every UGA fan that followed recruiting was immensely excited when Ramsey committed to UGA over Bama.
Bama subsequently accepted the commitment of another QB the next day, in that they were slow playing that guy, waiting on what Ramsey was going to do. That’s how highly thought of Ramsey was. Turns out, the light never turned on for Ramsey. That’s football.
Hindsight is 20-20 on this one, sadly.
interestingly, I don’t see much in the way of the vitriol directed to Kirby for whiffing on Lawrence. Eason was gift wrapped to Kirby.Fromm wanted to be a dawg from birth.
I hope Kirby can get Lawrence brought home
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With Eason and Fromm in Athens, going to be tough to pull a GREAT QB next year, IMHO..
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agreed, but Lawrence is the #1 player in the country for 2018 and is leaving the state. That’s a guy Kirby ought to get.
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The kid doesn’t want to sit behind Eason and Fromm. Its as simple as that.So I see the Richt crowd is trying to use Lawrence going Clemson to kick dirt on Kirby as if that is somehow equal to Richt and Bobo’s gigantic whiff on Watson.
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Watson was a 4 star, middle of the top of the pack QB from GA. Lawrence is a #1 in the country QB from GA. If anything, it’s worse that Kirby isn’t getting Lawrence.
That being said, Clemson is signing a #1 QB in the 2017 class, who is ranked well ahead of Fromm. By the time Lawrence arrives on campus, Eason will hopefully be playing his way into an early departure and first round pick, which will put UGA and Clemson in the same category for potential playing time.
I don’t understand the same people who lost their mind at the slightest Richt recruiting snafu have unending grace to offer to Kirby.(watson was no small thing)
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Because its not a snafu on Kirby. We know Kirby didn’t drag his feet in recruiting Lawrence. You’re not gonna find a tweet out there of Lawrence saying that Kirby didn’t want him. When Eason is playing qb for Iowa St and Fromm is handling punting duties when Lawrence wins a championship with Clemson, then I’ll buy what you’re selling.
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What you’re saying is this, in a nutshell:
Kirby executed a strategy to recruit Lawrence and failed.
Richt executed a strategy to recruit Watson and failed.
Kirby’s failure isn’t his fault. Richt’s failure is his fault.
Reality is both failed. It’s that simple. The hope now for the Bulldogs is that Lawrence is closer to Mitch Mustain than Deshaun Watson. That’s really all there is to it.
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Lawrence is already behind a 5 star 2017 recruit and whoever Watson’s backup is this year at Clemson. There are good guys on the depth chart everyplace you go at the top schools.
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But having Eason, Fromm, and Lawrence on the sideline at the same time was very unlikely under any circumstances. Too many great options for Lawrence to make that decision, and that is before you add in the Chaney factor.
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The Chaney factor is an indictment on Kirby, not a mitigating factor.
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You don’t think Chaney’s system, portfolio, reputation, demeanor, etc. was a factor in Lawrence selecting Clemson over UGA? Not saying that was the driving factor, but I bet it cost UGA some negative points.
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I agree with you 100%. that falls on Kirby who hired Chaney and is responsible for recruiting.
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The cake was baked on Lawrence before Kirby ever arrived if you believe the experts (I know, I know). Much like Watson, Clemson just got on him much sooner.
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I’m not choosing sides here, but you are correct that there is a narrative to that effect. Seems people close to the situation in Cartersville are convinced that Richt got in late on Lawrence, partly because of his reluctance to jump all over high school freshmen and sophomores. The story goes Richt ignored Lawrence at Dawgnight as a sophomore, when Dabo was already in a full court press, and we didn’t ramp things up until Smart took over. They claim it is a testament to Smart’s recruiting prowess that we leapfrogged the Vols at number two and even made it close.
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Whether there’s truth to that or if it’s just people gossiping like old hens, that is the exact same thing I’ve heard about Dawgnight.
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Fromm was committed to Alabama and then flipped to UGA when Smart was hired.
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I honestly don’t think he previous staff was to blame for everything. But they were to blame for somethings. LeMay, Ramsey, Park, and missing on Watson would suggest that QBs post Murray were a challenge for them. To their credit, they got Eason early.
My big takeaway is how sick I am of trying to run a Pro Style offense when the state produces a metric ton of talented dual purpose spread guys (a complaint that stretches across two staffs).
The point of college football is to win college football games, not to be an NFL developmental program. Not saying I want to go to Auburn’s extreme, but I see no reason our offense couldn’t look like what Clemson and Ole Miss do.
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Yep – and this is the primary reason I was less than thrilled with hiring Kirby. I just don’t see the point of trying to out-Bama Bama when the talent base is there to do something different that would uniquely define Georgia a la Malzahn / Baylor (less the bad stuff) as something other than Bama-lite. We know what Bama’s closest thing to kryptonite is and it sure as shit isn’t lining up and playing big dumb Will Muschamp caveman football against them.
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I get that. The reason I was ok with Kirby is that I trust him more than anyone else that was available to modernize the infrastructure and support staff of the program, which had to be done before anything else. Clemson laid the groundwork from 2009-13, hopefully we’re doing that now.
If Kirby turns out to be Boom 2.0, that will suck, but I think the next guy will be primed no only with a loaded roster, but with all the other aspects needed to compete.
I know we disagree on Kirby (I’m actually indifferent-I’m not convinced he is or isn’t just another Muschamp), but the behind the scenes aspects of the program are already significantly improved from just a year ago.
BTW, Kyle Whittingham would have been my choice.
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Kirby may, or may not, turn out to be an OK hire as HC but his decision to bring in Chaney looks to be the biggest hurdle to him succeeding.
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With ya there. Can’t change horses in the middle of the stream though. Chaney may blow, but 4 OCs in 4 years is something I want no part of.
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It sounds like you could change a couple of names and you would have described the current LSU situation.
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Possibly, I don’t know enough about LSU’s situation. I know they had an IPF that was the gold standard built in 1991, and I can’t imagine they rolled back whatever Saban was able to put in place.
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Dude, do you want McGarity to fire Richt twice? He can’t. Let it go.
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Nah man – you got to draw blood before some folks will be satisfied.
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The internet and twitter can make for strange memes. If Smart “built a recruiting wall and had a roster of 85 Georgians, every time another Georgian did well elsewhere folks will complain that Kirby needs to build a recruiting wall.
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If only Bobo had called a pick play in the Dome in ’12…..
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Maybe that pick play was to make up for the obvious targeting call on Clepmson’s best receiver that the refs let go in the first quarter??
I don’t even care. I just really love watching another ga rival win a natty and this time from somewhere OUT of the sec – yay! I’m kinda pissy today…sorry.
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Well, to be fair, the refs weren’t calling that pick play all night so Saban/Pruitt should have adjusted to zone or something else instead of keep letting them pick you.
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On the last play of the game I said (before the snap) that Bama has to tackle every receiver, period. Take the 1/2 distance penalty and force CU to FG with no time on the clock. Better to play for OT than lose on the last play of the game.
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Smart man. I thought that also, but after the fact. On another note, anybody wonder if that pass falls incomplete and rolls around, that last second ticks off the clock?
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We’re gonna build that wall, follks. We’re gonna do it. Believe me.
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And Bama is gonna pay for it, right? 😀
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I’ve been critical of the previous staff’s decision on the recruiting of Deshaun Watson. He was DJ Shockley all over again, and we missed … it happens.
Every school in the Southeast recruits Georgia and Florida. It will always be that way. Blue chip players are going to leave the state … even those who grew up as Georgia fans. Tallahassee and Gainesville are closer for many South Georgians than Athens. Knoxville is closer than Athens for players from Northwest Georgia. Auburn is closer than Athens for kids from West Georgia. Clemson & USCe have to recruit Georgia to be relevant. Many kids from Atlanta are the children of transplants or legacies from other schools and have no UGA allegiance. Alabama is going to recruit from wherever they find players as a national school.
The best thing Kirby and his staff can do (and they appear to be doing it) is to identify the best players from the state that fit what we want to do and fill needs on the roster. Get those guys locked up early and recruit nationally when it makes sense. You do that and the roster takes care of itself. Then the question is whether the staff can take the chicken and make chicken salad out of it. That will be the measuring stick for the success of the leadership in Athens … nothing more, nothing less.
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All you guys must realize that we can’t sign all the top talent in the state, correct? NCAA has these pesky things called scholarship numbers and limits they tend to enforce. Not sure why we are beating the Bobo/Richt dead horse on Watson…they made their choice..and it may have cost them their job.
Meanwhile Kirby has Fromm locked down…
And, yeah, I think Bama missed Kiffen…
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Sark called a far, far better game last night than Kiffin did against Udub.
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His 4th quarter was atrocious…we just going to have to disagree on this one.
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No #9 in the fourth quarter really hurt ‘Bama.
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I think I ultimately agree. Sark hid Hurts as long as he could, then manufactured a drive when he had to. Bo getting hurt killed them.
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Yep, Bo going out of the game was huge IMO
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I thought Chaney was calling the game except for the trick play and the two bootlegs. I kept thinking three touchdowns and a field goal ain’t gonna be enough… neither were four.
I think bama had like nine three and outs at one point. Their defense got gassed … ninety offensive plays for Clemson. But i can see everyone blaming the defense instead of the offense… wait.
And Clemson is going to load up with Georgia boys in 2018. We had better be relevant next year and in the national title discussion or our drought is going to continue and Clemson will win two or three more natties before we hire our next head coach.
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Too much focus on one player in these comments, anyone can misjudge a player (plus or minus), and UGA certainly had a policy of not offering as early as other schools. Bigger picture take is UGA fans obsess continually over this same 20/20 issue on specific players and who we get our of the Top 20 guys. With two successful, powerhouse programs positioned close to every surrounding border (OK just one in TN) we are more in a position to be raided than any other state with significant HS talent.
We will never build this wall people speak of, and everyone needs to get a handle on this, it is an unjust attack on any coach. You will have better years than others at various times and need to keep a focus on talent within, and outside of the state of Georgia. Not the best way to evaluate a coach as a recruiter. There was a time when “home talent” was easier to protect but TV, interstates, increased recruiting dollars, etc. have all changed that…especially in Georgia.
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“……anyone can misjudge a player (plus or minus),”
Coach Dooley -didnt Vince comment about the possibility of putting #34 at LB?
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Fullback seemed to be the more likely option. But he would have been “all world, at any of them.
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No.
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With all of Hershel’s personalities, he could have played every position!
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28 players and 6 starters is actually way less than I would have guessed. That’s an average of 16% of scholarship players per team assuming none of the 28 are walk ons. Doesn’t seem like too significant of a number considering that Auburn had 36 players from Georgia on their roster in 2016.
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One of those players is Radacovich’s kid.
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He got a really dumb personal foul penalty on the long kickoff return Clemson had in the first half.
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What does it really matter if we can’t coach the players from Georgia?
Honestly, this kind of stuff doesn’t make sense to me. I know Watson was a highly ranked recruit out of Georgia, but a good number of those kids that are at Clemson from Georgia didn’t play their football at Georgia because we went after recruits that were held in higher sporting regard. The difference is that those 3* players from Georgia that went to Clemson simply played harder and were coached better at Clemson than the 4* and 5* players that went to Georgia.
This is getting back to the talent issue…which is a complete non-issue. Georgia has had talent. Georgia has always had talent. It has had talent from Georgia. It has had talent from New Jersey. It has had talent from Pennsylvania. It has had talent from North Carolina. It has had talent from all over this great country over the years. Look at the number of NFL players that have come through Athens and you’ll begin to understand the incredible amount of talent levels that have played on Sanford Stadium grass. The fact that Vince Dooley, Ray Goff, Jim Donnan, and Mark Richt have combined to win a single national title for Georgia since 1980 considering the amount of sheer athletic prowess that has been at this University is embarrassing and, quite simply, unacceptable.
Clemson has now won two titles since we won our last…and we’re out here flopping around, squeaking by Nicholls State, not even in the running for our own (lousy and dysfunctional) conference division, shining our prestigious Belk, Music City, and Liberty Bowl trophies. All the while, we’ll tell anyone who will listen that it’s our offensive coordinator’s fault….or our defensive coordinator’s fault…or our special teams…or our coach….but, remember that time back in 1980 when we won the national championship? Man…we need a time machine.
We are the Uncle Rico of college football.
Clemson winning the title in 2016 has nothing to do with talent somehow stolen from Georgia. Clemson winning the title in 2016 has everything to do with a serious football program. We are not a serious football program. We are pretenders.
Just my opinion.
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2017 has to be the year we go from pretender to contender. If it don’t happen then it may never happen.
Clemsuxs still
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“We are not a serious football program. We are pretenders.”
What does that even mean? What’s your remedy?
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I’m not sure there is a remedy…outside of the athletic department and University going “all in” for the football program. I hate to use that cliched phrase, but it’s the truth.
That’s the only thing that could possibly be considered a remedy. No more micro-management. Turn everything over to Kirby and let him do exactly what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants…all the while providing him with basically anything he asks for: Kirby wants to hire 10 new analysts? Done. Kirby wants structural or aesthetic improvements to some football facility? Done. Kirby wants to cough up the salary required to hire the best and the brightest position and unit coaches? Done. No hesitation.
Now, another discussion could be had whether or not UGA should take that path and could (or even would) grant that kind of power and sway to the head football coach, but in my opinion, that’s what it would take to turn Georgia into a serious football program. It’s also not to say that Kirby would be the one to actually get it done at Georgia, either. I’m willing to give him the pass on this past season, but let’s be honest…there was nothing that happened on the football field in 2016 from a coaching standpoint that made jaws drop. Maybe he does turn into a great head coach…that much, however, is unknown.
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Finally! Somebody gets it. 2 good posts.
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Can anyone name one position coach at Clemson other than Venable? I don’t particularly like our current OC but Smart does and that is all that matters. I knew Dabo when he was a grad assistant and never would have thought he’d make a HC at a major university. It just proves that hard work, innovative thought, and good recruiting pays off. Where is the next coach with all that? Franklin? Mason? Mcelvain? Maybe even Smart!
Time and trials wiil tell.
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UGA will never allow a coach to have that kind of power and control. Just wont happen, ever. Get it out of your mind.
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One of the best posts I’ve read here. It does a good job of summing up how the curse of the “Georgia Way” goes beyond any one coach, AD or university president to stretch out over decades.
“Est Satis Mediocris” (average is good enough) should be the motto of those who run the University.
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Now I finally Get The Picture
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We are so far removed from those two teams that played last night. Far, far, removed. We clearly need to be 3 deep in beastly linemen on both sides of the ball.
Good think Clempson didn’t fire Dabo after that “miserable” 10-3 season a few years ago.
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Well, they obviously tolerate mediocrity. And they fell for that whole “rings gather dust” thing.
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Since the question was “What Georgia fans are hoping for over the next month”, here’s what I hope to see:
– Add a cherry (or three) to a truly awesome recruiting class. Some of whom are already in class.
– Replace (or demote to analyst) at least two of the underperforming assistant coaches. Get a REAL OC and/or QB coach. I honestly don’t know what Beamer did all year. The STs actually got worse from 2015 in all aspects. The only improved player would be Blankenship – and it’s my understanding that was Butler’s influence.
That’s really all I could ask for in one month.
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Add a cherry to this class
Looks like some are coming on:
http://georgia.247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/InstitutionPredictions
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Next month is about closing out recruiting.
Two guys we are predicted 100% to get are Bryant & Warner, in state top 200 natl guys.
Solomon would be a great get, he’s a top 30 Natl guy who is in state too but leaning Bama.
Also need to make sure none of the current commits flip.
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