More anti-throwaway narrative

Over at CFN, Pete Fiutak goes all in on Georgia in his early top ten for 2017:

7. Georgia

It’s all about the offensive line. There’s no excuse whatsoever for the offense to be so mediocre with Jacob Eason with a year under his belt, and with Nick Chubb and Sony Michel to hand off to. But that line – it returns just two starters, and it has to be a whole lot better. Meanwhile, the defense isn’t going to skip a beat with just about everyone back to what should be a killer. Dawgs, win the East – you’re this year’s Tennessee.

Um, how did “this year’s Tennessee” work out for last year’s Tennessee?

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65 responses to “More anti-throwaway narrative

  1. Guess we need to start practicing the Hail Mary. Anybody got any red and black bricks?

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  2. SemperFiDawg

    Next year we win the Life Championship!

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  3. Linda

    From Effie’s?

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  4. Gaskilldawg

    Yeah, that last clause conveyed his doubt.

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  5. DawgPhan

    That Tennessee line is savage. That just hurts everyone.

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  6. 3rdandGrantham

    Seasoned, SEC ready OL doesn’t just grow on trees. Those three new starters very well might include a true freshman, a JUCO, and an underclassmen who has never started a game.

    This OL rebuild is at least a few years in the making due to the terrible shape it was left in previously. Now, if you want to type these same words next year this time, I’m all ears and would have no qualms whatsoever.

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    • 3rdandGrantham

      By the way, last year was Butch Jones’ 4th at UT, and he had a roster full of upperclassman starters and a senior QB — not exactly an apples to apples comparison with a 2nd year coach with a sophomore QB, with a starting lineup that will feature a ton of underclassman starters.

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    • Gaskilldawg

      The offense line’s performance in 2016 was not good.
      Fans were almost unanimous in their belief that UGA was good enough, with those guys, to have won the SEC East in 2015. Some returning linemen made post season all-American or all conference.

      The “terrible shape” to which you refer was not anticipating in 2014 and 2015 that 2016 would bring a new staff with different offensive line philosophy.

      I get the reasoning behind the desire to change the offensive identity, I really do, and I know it had to be done at some point. Smart felt like he should change it now, not later. No argument with that.

      I do wish to defend the players who were recruited, taught and trained to play a different style than Smart wanted. It isn’t their fault they aren’t 6’6, 350.

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      • Russ

        “I do wish to defend the players who were recruited, taught and trained to play a different style than Smart wanted. It isn’t their fault they aren’t 6’6, 350.”

        +100

        We showed in 2012-2015 that you can run the ball effectively with the smallest line in the SEC. 2016 was a change of scheme and wasn’t suited to the linemen we had.

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        • Greg

          Alex Gibbs was pretty damn good at it. Zone blocking, pulling and trapping works good with the right players and system….we had them imo, just the wrong staff to continue with it. You can’t make a player/person something that he is not, play with the cards that you are dealt. “I have the ability to change”….he needs to write that down and read it every day.

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          • CPark58

            The same players averaged a whopping .4 more yards (5.1 vs 4.7) per carry in 2015 with the previous staff, complete with the offensive minded head coach with 15 years of continuity who recruited them all, than this year’s brand new staff. Tell me again how this year’s staff and scheme was the only problem.

            Criticize 2016 coaching staff for piss poor offensive performance, that’s fine. But first concede that the offense wasn’t exactly a juggernaut in 2015 with all the same parts and the coaching that hand picked them and this staff is doing what it takes to make the offense what it wants to be moving forward.

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            • Snoop Dawgy Dawg

              The 2015 offense suffered due to Grayson Lambert’s impeccable ability to crap his britches in many situations along with Schottenheimer’s schizophrenic coaching that seemed at times multiple, boneheaded, tactical, and drawn up on a napkin.

              Schotty may have improved in year 2 as he had a team with more experience in his system. or he might have been fired and we had someone new.

              Eason was better than Grayson. All season long, my opinion of the difference between 2015 & 2016 offense was Eason, and that’s about it.

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            • Greg

              Bobo did not have a problem with it….look deeper.

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              • dawgman3000

                Yeah, he didn’t have problems with it until he faced a team with a formidable defense, but he had a record breaking offense against those patsies.

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              • CPark58

                Ok, Mike Bobo didn’t have a problem with it but last time I checked Mike Bobo is in Ft. Collins. Bobo orchestrated or at least directly influenced UGA’s offense in terms of system and personnel for 14 years so it was designed to what he wanted to do with the players he wanted to do it with, I would sure as hell hope he got results out of it.

                Not exactly an apples to apples comparison…look deeper

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                • Cpark58

                  Not to mention in the pinnacle of bobo’s run, he had 4 year starter Aaron Murray and 5th year Hutson Mason. Aaron Murrays freshman year was 2010, enough said. And Mason’s one year as started was his 5th year in the system where his physical deficiencies were masked by his mastery of the offense. Can you honestly say without a doubt that 2015 wasn’t destined for a dropoff with Ramsey, Bauta, or Lambert?

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                • Greg

                  Good job, you made my point for me. Need to “play with the cards that are dealt” to you. No reason to do otherwise, be flexible…Chaney’s stubbornness and ability to not adapt will catch up with him.

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                  • Cpark58

                    Not sure how I made your point. Mike Bobo got a looooong time to make the offense what he wanted it to be after he inherited it from a guy who wanted the same thing and got results with it. All I’m saying is you should at least give the next guy(s) a little bit to do the same thing before the comparisons start.

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                    • Greg

                      Hell, he has the chance whether I like it or not..I am not employing him. I hope he proves me wrong, but there ain’t much in his background that makes me optimistic.

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        • Uglydawg

          We all know what NATS and GaSo’thern do without huge linemen.

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      • Snoop Dawgy Dawg

        Amen

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    • Good thing it really only need to be SEC East Ready, eh?

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    • Derek Dooley 2.0

      At what point do you stop anticipating failure/hedging bets at the expense of the last coaches OL? If we’re singing these tunes 2 years or 5 years from now, this will have been the biggest failure of an experiment UGA has seen.

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      • 69Dawg

        Eh I’ll put Ray Goff in the running for biggest failure ever. I don’t believe Kirby will be given seven years to of throw away seasons.

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        • dawgman3000

          Why shouldn’t he, the last coach threw away the last 10 years.

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          • Macallanlover

            You are so blinded by your strong bias that you cannot let it go. You won, stop hammering everyone and helping to divide the fan base. Such division weakened us before, no need to hurt us again. Stop whining and support the new guy, others are. Following someone who had taken us to the higher level is not easy, and no, there is no free pass.

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  7. DawgPhan

    You could random order generate that list of teams and publish it every off season for the rest of time and probably not be that off.

    Think about the expectations if they crush this recruiting class. All the boilerplate articles that we get every year are going to have us in the top list. Bud’s bluechip article. Steele’s articles about returning starts or schedule strength. Composite team rankings. 2nd year bump. You are going to have to beat around for a stat that doesnt favor the dawgs heading into the season.

    Saban hasnt won a national title without Smart. (I dont even know if this is true but why not just say it. )

    If anyone was looking for some low expectations for cover, I dont think that this off season will provide it.

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  8. Did Fiutak speak with the resident Georgia football experts, Jeff Dantzler and Kevin Butler, before writing his article? Otherwise, he would have known this team will be lucky to beat Samford.

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  9. Gaskilldawg

    “I don’t even know if this is true but why not just say it.”

    You are getting the hang of this Internet thing!

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  10. DoubleDawg1318

    7? Really? That “if the O-line improves” clause isn’t small potatoes. That’s an absolutely huge question mark. There’s no way you can say with confidence that Georgia will be top 10 pre-season when we have such a huge question mark across the O-line.

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  11. heyberto

    The O-line returns just two starters…

    Shouldn’t that be an asset? Especially when you consider the O Line recruits we’re getting?

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    • dawgman3000

      That’s what I was thinking. It seems like it could be one of those addition by subtraction type of deals.

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    • RCBRick

      This makes no sense. Evenif you returned all 5, you are free to bench them all. Not returning starters is always bad, in every case, unless you have a coach so dumb that he needs bad players forcibly taken away from him or he’ll throw them out there.

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      • Except that benching seasoned players on the o-line, a unit that is notorious for being a tight nit group and is known for vocal leadership, can do wonders for your team chemistry.

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  12. PTC DAWG

    It means we’re the favorites..I’ll take it. Kirby is on this thing.

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  13. Macallanlover

    So we are going to move from 65th to 7th? Or 10th? Dang, seems a wee bit optimistic. I get winning the East, it will be hard to not get that done if we stay healthy, but UGA will not be one of the best 10 teams in America with Chaney in his current role.

    And this continual OL crap, it was more the usage of the personnel than the Jimmys and Joes. We haven’t great at OL for a long, long time. But we could be better next year with some growth and better tackles.

    Certainly good enough to win the East, and beat ND. Question is will we be able to compete in Atlanta with the West winner by December? Maybe, a long shot, but we have a lot of talent, experience, and depth coming back. Going to a fun spring, and summer, just hope it is a lot more fun in the Fall.

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  14. Spike

    Now I know how Fredo felt in The Godfather Part Two when he got the kiss of death from Michael.

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  15. AusDawg85

    The Tennessee of last year. I’m afraid that is exactly who we’ll be.

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  16. Comin' Down The Track

    Remember when “anti-throwaway narrative” used to be called “happy talk?” Thanks, Dantzler.

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  17. 69Dawg

    I saw teams using freshman offensive lineman all year. It’s not impossible we have even done it in the past. If the ranking services are any thing but pure crap some of these guys can play. Any coach that approaches a season as a “throw away” season should be fired.

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    • I think Clemson’s right tackle in the big game was a freshman. I only know this because he missed a block that resulted in a sack. Still, he helped them to a national title.

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  18. Uglydawg

    When you call Georgia last year’s Tennessee,
    Hoss
    You’re walkin’ on the fightin’ side of me.

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  19. Macallanlover

    In our bad years I don’t want to be Tennessee. UGA wins the East, but we ain’t 7th in the country. Old Pete should look at the other teams’ schedules before picking that Top 10. UGA and USC don’t bang heads with the others but 1 plays four opening week, and 2 plays 3 the second week, Then you still have FSU and Clemson meeting, and Bama playing LSU. Those teams at the top may be the best, but they will not likely end up there.

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