That’s right, a class of 2019 early enrollee has jumped into the transfer portal.
I wonder what kind of waiver argument he’s gonna make.
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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
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Crazy. Just flipping crazy. The rabbit hole will end up bigger than the grand canyon.
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Mommy, I don’t want to be here! Make it better.
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Call The Bagman!
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That guy’s job just got a lot harder.
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When we hire someone and give them a sign-on bonus, many times there is a one or two-year commitment that they have to pay it back if they leave before the end of the 1st or 2nd year. Maybe the Bagman needs to implement that.
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Unfortunately for the players, since any contract with the bagman is unenforceable in a court of law, the bagman’s remedy for breach of the contract is limited to less civilized methods…
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Weights?
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“They told me I wouldn’t have to attend classes”
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He was told there would be no math.
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I mean, we’re talking about classes
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“My recruiter left for Tennessee.”
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Guessing the reality of USC doesn’t quite measure up to the recruiting schmooz.
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“I wonder what kind of waiver argument he’s gonna make.” Uhhh, Kingsbury leaving as fast as he got there. Hey, the camel already has it’s nose under the tent. His argument unfortunately will be just as valid as 99.9% of the others. The genie is out of the bottle ( I’m on a metaphor roll today) and we will have to wait and see what level of damage it ultimately does to the game we all love.
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Texas I think the tail end of that last sentence is quickly becoming “…the game we all used to love” or perhaps “…the game we’re all gradually falling out of love with.” Sad.
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I dont think you are leaving the game any time soon. Youll still tune in. Unless you are considering watching volleyball, cross county, or soccer?
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I do like those volleyball shorts…
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etdf I do watch a good bit of golf. But curling has been my new favorite thing for a while. Although I know it isn’t true, curling looks like something even an AARP member like myself can do. No, we haven’t totally left but we did let go of the season tickets several years ago. And there were a few weekends this season where we never even turned on the TV. We didn’t miss it. It’s dying a slow death.
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Do you think its because of the game? Or is it because a change in life priorities? Im not tyring to be snarky. It certainly isnt healthy to tie ones happiness to how 18-22 year old males perform. I know my priorities have changed and I have felt my weekends are more agreeable when I dont make football the priority. Have you seen the same change in your life?
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etdf I think it’s both. The game has changed dramatically, but so have our lives. We used to love meeting and getting to know “our” players and that was a lot easier and a lot more casual in the not too distant past. Now those opportunities are highly restricted, unfortunately, for good reason. As a student I sat on the tracks. I don’t have to tell you how different THAT was. Even got to know Erk a little bit as he liked to come up there late on Friday nights and smoke a cigar. I was fortunate to meet and talk to Larry Munson a few times as well. Things were just a lot more relaxed and accessible than they are now. I understand why this isn’t really possible in the current environment, at least not at our level. But it’s still a bit of a bummer.
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I sometimes feel more connected to the program and other fans at true road games. Is that weird ? You’re one of only a few thousand, so if an old friend you’ve lost touch with is there, you’re going to have a good chance of running into them. The players are extra appreciative of your particular presence and you usually get an up close and personal fist bump of sorts. Everyone in red is a supreme ally, from the parking lot to the concourse to the bathrooms. It’s always nice to be in Athens, but there are some intangibles as a fan amongst a fanbase that are only available in that road environment.
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No, it is not weird at all. Too much of the “scene” in Athens has become a socializing/party/”look at me”/”this is what our friends are doing” thing, in my opinion… Generally, to be at a road game, you have to genuinely really want to go to the game…
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Lacrosse baby!
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Not being snarky? Ok. Saying “I don’t think you’ll be leaving ‘re game any time soon. You’ll still tune in.”. To a guy that you don’t even know. That sure came off as snarky. The real unraveling of the college football we have all loved all of our lives has begun. Some see it as progress. But I can see a day approaching when I most certainly will not still tune in.
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And you are welcome to not tune in. I dont think college football will miss you. The ones that will miss you are your family and friends.
I wonder how the winged-t people felt about college football when the forward pass became a thing? Change in inevitable, if adaptation doesnt happen, extinction will.
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Ok now there is no doubt. You are just an obnoxious person who likes to think of yourself as smart but you’re more of a smart ass than anything else. I’m well aware of what impact my absence will have on college football. There are plenty of people who are thrilled about its current trajectory. Good for them. But the “change is inevitable” responses crack me up. No shit. Everybody knows that. Doesn’t mean you have to enjoy all changes of everything. The people who say things like that are the ones who like the changes. When it gets to the point that I no longer enjoy it I will just move on. I have lots of hobbies and will have more time for them on Saturdays in the fall. You enjoy your NFL minor league football though. Because tats where it’s headed.
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I certainly have been called a smart ass before, so your assessment may be true. I prefer the college game over the professional game as well. But specifically, I prefer UGA over all other football. As long as the helmet has that G I will watch. Sounds like you are doing exactly what you should do, what I would do in fact. Except I wouldnt be on here telling everyone I am close to not ever watching again.
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Yeah I clearly have missed the point of the comments section on a blog about a college football team. Telling other people what they should or will do in as smug a way as possible is definitely what it’s for.
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If his girlfriend broke up with him maybe he could claim emotional trauma. Me thinks there will need to be some sort of cap on how many times one can transfer if we’re just going to let anyone transfer for pretty much any reason. Perhaps by your third transfer you have to go back to sitting out a year, Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
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It’s the Buckeye loophole—his coach left. I have sympathy for him.
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Have you seen Milledge Avenue during jog time, young man?
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I drove my son back to Athens back in October, he lives on Milledge. It was warm, and about 8:30 in the morning on a Sunday.We were came into town on Prince and there was a group of very fit young ladies out for a run. I made a comment, something like “That’s why it’s great to be a Georgia Bulldog” as we assed the girls on our right. He looked at me and says “Dad, you’re like fifty. That’s creepy.” My response? “Dude, just because I’m getting older doesn’t mean they get any less pretty.”
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“Assed”.
Well played, sir. Well played.
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You assed them? That IS creepy, dude.
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Passed. My bad, sort of…
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Yes, I got married, I didn’t go blind…..
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Freudian slip ?
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Sorry Mick, didn’t see your post before I posted.
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Talk about a Freudian slip!
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Age wise, I’m about halfway between you and your son, maybe slightly closer to you. I’m in that weird place where I easily still remember thinking similar things when my Dad would make those comments but also (now)thinking WTF, 50 is old ?!?! 50’s not old !!!! I’m going to be 50 in the blink of an eye…..I’m not old ! I can still make those comments right ?! RIGHT ?!
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As far as I am concerned, you can. I’m 62, and I still would. Make the comments, that is.
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I’m 51 and I see some of ’em looking. 50 is definitely not old if you don’t let it be. 🙂
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Gotta love them Daddy issues!
Let’s just say my ogling has morphed from youthful lusting into a more refined “respectful admiration”.
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Easy fix. Pay the players and put penalty clauses in there for transferring. If they are truly amateurs, the NCAA shouldn’t be able to penalize them at all for furthering their education in football and academics at any other college for any reason. But pay them, then you can put penalties in. You could also make the schools give up initial scholarship offers for every transfer they take in.
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A related alternative: let them play immediately but NOT under scholarship in the first year although still counting towards the 85 limit (so that you’re not just giving the beneficiary team a free roster extension). The drawback is that would be a “regressive” penalty in the sense that it would have a greater adverse effect on students of limited means.
But who are we kidding, kids of many backgrounds are in the student loan regime now—if you’re truly going to college to better yourself one way or the other, is the extra $15k in debt for living expenses by the kid from the poorest background (because his parents could give him absolutely zero) really going to kill him over the term of his loan ? Heck, a lot of kids like that work harder, smarter and end up with the higher paying job and the ability to pay it back even quicker.
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Why penalize the kid at all? He’s the least paid member of the college staff.
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As was discussed during the Haselwood recruitment. Be careful what you wish for in these 5 star WRs. So many of them are just turrible people.
For every AJ there seems to be about 5 knuckleheads.
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He may be a knucklehead (I have no idea and AJ was special), but I think he has a legitimate gripe with Kingsbury leaving. We have a free and mobile market for coaches but not players, even though the players largely commit to the coaches.
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In this day and age what percentage of kids finish their careers with the coach they signed with?
If you aren’t picking a school instead of a coach, you’re screwing up and not paying attention. The only modification I would make is if the new coach largely makes you irrelevant. Like a prostyle qb ends up with a wishbone coach.
I’m not saying they shouldn’t be free to change, I’m just saying that I’m suspicious of those who do. These guys have a short window. Coaches move at will. Why not players? Frankly, I think free movement, if we get to it, will benefit us in the long run.
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Concur
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I think I’m tracking with you. But I’d push back on this: committing a school is easier for players who are primarily students or who are merely excellent football players. For the small group (50 a year? Probably less than 100) who are just passing through on their way to the NFL, school means very little. It’s all about the program, and the program starts with the coach.
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Those kids should be somewhere other than college IMHO.
The mutual using process is abhorrent. UK uses the kids for wins. The kid uses UK to help his draft position. Neither could give a rats ass about where the campus library is. It’s just disgusting.
I wish the “have nots” who are playing mostly with kids without a lot of professional ambition (at least they are seen as “1 and dones” or “3 years and go” kids) would use their numbers to get everyone out of this.
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I don’t agree that position coaches or coordinators leaving should give automatic qualification of a waiver for a player. I do understand your point, and I do support the waiver process for grad students and undergrads in other situations. Note that Chaney had a buyout clause so there was a penalty to the hiring team and compensation remitted to UGA for him leaving. If I remember correctly Kingsbury and the Cardinals also had to pay USC for him taking the position. Does that mean the recieving institution of a student transfer should remit that students prior years scholarship and stipend dollars to the school that he left?
Like I said yesterday this is a tide change for college football and no one including the NCAA is equipped to see the future ramifications to the sport. For instance if all of Penn State (11) or VT players (10) that are in the portal leave how is the NCAA going to make those teams whole again because of the new interpretation of the waiver process that encouraged all of those players to leave this year because there is no year in waiting? Are those teams going be allowed additional signees of x per year so they can get back to their 85 scholarship numbers? There are so many more questions with free agency in college football and I don’t feel encouraged that the NCAA is prepared or has the additional structure in place for college free agency. iE the rules around MLB, MLS, and NFL for waivers, free agency, etc.
Conference rules are going to be the new limiting factor. The SEC I believe still has transferring within the SEC for undergrads requires a year in waiting. The NCAA is going to encounter serious pushback from the power 5. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the power 5 conferences sign new rules this spring that changes year in waiting for undergrads from intra conference to all power 5 leagues.
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Why shouldn’t kids be able to do what they want? Students can transfer at will. Who cares? You’re not happy, go! Don’t let the door hit ya.
I guess I value personal freedom more than any paternal instinct that we somehow have to protect people from themselves.
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If you value personal freedom in this sport than by your viewpoint there should be no waiver process. I get it. However how are coaches and teams in college football supposed to have free agency without limiting rules like in professional sports? In a ideal world there would be a semi pro league and feeder system like MLB baseball for football and basketball. There is no developmental league for the NFL. Maybe the Canadian football league should allow high school graduates to enter the CFL. Problem solved.
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It’s more about protecting the enterprise. I know these are amateurs but any enterprise with 9 figure revenue has a right to protect the integrity of the enterprise. This is really no different than a pro sports league encountering new problems where they have to internally legislate (i.e. restrict “personal freedom”) in order to best protect / advance the enterprise.
I get that the amateurism debate plays a role in this, but at the end of the day there are almost ZERO industries (public, private, non-profit, profit) that don’t have at least some regulations born out of pure benevolence towards the collective good. Otherwise, we’d still have people working in sweat shops 7 days per week, rampant insider trading and other actions that were once the province of “personal freedom” but for about 100 years have been considered abhorrent and a public negative.
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Ask ncaa to apply 4 game redshirt limit as negotiation on the waiver if they won’t allow kids to play full year.
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Hell….open it up. Pay’em, free agency, contracts, highest bidder, cut’em.
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Just merge the NCAA and NFL, and create a 164 team pro league. Playing everyone in your division might take a while.
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Someday there will be a lot of regret that we aren’t playing college football and BB with college students. You know the thing that works for the no -revenue sports. Doing the wrong thing for the wrong reasons doesn’t get better through tweaking it. Gotta burn it down and start over with why we have intercollegiate athletics in the first place?
Hint: it wasn’t about tv contracts.
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The Ivy League may have it right…
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Mehhh. You’ll feel less bad about it if you just accept that (going forward) our colleges now simply have a role to play in preparing select young people for a career in Sports Entertainment…….. it may not have the wine or the cheese, but its place in the macroeconomy is no different than any other performing art.
It’s not even about “going to the League” alone— people who never had a shot at the NFL are becoming position coaches at commuter schools and earning incomes in the top 1/2 of 1% of society as a whole. This is an industry people can make a career out of through many different avenues. I see no other place more appropriate than our colleges and universities for this instruction.
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This is the only correct opinion. Make “sports” a major and prepare the kids who want in to the industry as best the school can.
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There was a time when college football players could transfer and be immediately eligible.
Yesterday I talked about former All Conference Bulldog Bum Day. He started out at Tech, played one year, made All American, then transferred to UGA and played 3 seasons without sitting out a year. He was two time all conference with us and and I am sure our fans did not think him playing for us a year after playing at Tech ruined the game they loved.
My point is that fans loved the under those rules and will continue to love the game if the NCAA returned to those rules.
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I saw that. It was interesting, and I should have expected it was the case before colleges and the NCAA decided to try to control everything.
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Tennessee had a guy quit after 1 practice one time. I forget his name but it was when Dooley was there.
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The coach at LSU essentially did that at LSU when he was a freshman.
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This is why undergraduates transferring with immediate eligibility for any reasons other than the head coach leaving or TRUE hardships such as sickness in the family etc..should not be allowed.
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He signed because he thought Kliff Kingsbury was going to be the OC. Right after he signs KK takes the AZ Cardinals HC job.
I personally don’t begrudge the kid. I get it. You are led to believe one thing and it changes right after.
In what other walk of life is it ok to do this? Mislead someone and stick them with something that is no longer true?
Because its college?
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I’m on record saying that the kids should be allowed to transfer with the same degree of freedom as the coaches. And yes, I guess he isn’t getting to play for Kliff Kingsbury.
But, this is pushing it. This is officially pushing it.
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What rationale will he use? Does it really matter? Most fans, and players, don’t think the NCAA has a spine. I hear, and read, that no one feels the Fields case will be denied. If so, along with Martell, it is open season; anyone can beat that false reasoning. I am hoping for rejections, but fearful the masses may be right.
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Are any of us in a profession where you have to commit to an employer for four years and if you don’t like the situation you can’t change employers ( no matter where in the country) without significant hassles. Like your current employer eliminating places you can go. I don’t think anyone would sign a contract like that unless it was for so much money you didn’t care what it said. I agree with Derek, college football should be played by college students. The only problem is everyone ( except the players) is making too much money.
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US military recruits say “hold my beer…for a while”.
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Good point, but I think you still get my point.
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Yes, one of the compensations for having no final say in where you live and work and being paid less than a similarly-qualified civilian is the off-chance of being killed.
🙂
I no longer remember who I heard say that, but it was probably back in my own days in the military.
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You obviously missed our General Assembly’s efforts to “ensure Georgia maintains a friendly environment for business” several years ago, which has made restrictive covenants much more easier to enforce…
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Jt1omc ( the other one ) In what other walk of life is it ok to do this ? Mislead someone and stick them with something that is’nt true.
Are you talking about the House or the Senate ? Possibly you are speaking of all three branches the Executive, Legislative and Judicial.
May I continue with Grayson High players protested practice because it was contact with shorts and shell. That was August 18 I believe and were to play Bergen Catholic NJ in a double header with Buford and Deerfield Beach, Fla.
Before these kids even enter college big bucks are falling like leaves around em. Max Preps, Hudl, podcasts, Netflicks QB1,2 . Recruiting has been and will continue to be a money making bag. Way before these kids step in a college dressing room.
I would have cut off my left leg at the knee when I was playing if anyone suggested I leave my teams and go to a powerhouse program across the county. So even before they step in and put on a jock their parents are moving taking different jobs to secure these kids a picture perfect setup to a 4-5 rating.**** Take note of one such one player was deemed ineligible because the parent took a job at the middle school instead of the high school he chose to move to.
So it begins way before then. Coaches don’t have any ethics in high school move every 3-4 years up your pay scale, bring multiple families, spouses,etc. Yet we expect a light of integrity to flash in these kids heads when they sign a paper.
Roquan had it right just sign finically to the university not a intent letter but ya know that don’t add coin coins to the pay per view sites.
We are just getting a taste of the pie We have already burned….. Go Dawgs !!!!
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On one hand , I can’t stand all the “end of the game as we know it” tripe, because the game is only changing at the same pace as everything else in life. I’m sure if you had interviewed a fan, coach, or administrator in 1990 he/she could have told you about the good ol’ day’s in 1960. Stuff is always changing , get over it.
On the other hand , I can stand with some of you who wish we were living in simpler times. ( as long as I was one of the ones getting fair treatment in those simpler times. )
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Senator, I’m surprised we haven’t gotten a post on this Twitter post that would make Richard Simmons proud!
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Want another take?
https://deadspin.com/five-star-usc-wideout-bru-mccoy-got-screwed-by-kliff-ki-1832049334
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I was going to suggest McCoy should be able to get an annulment if the marriage had not yet been consummated. But based on that, it sounds like it has been.
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