… do you think we’d know the identity of the starting quarterback?
Mike Bobo knows the ability to make plays trumps over decision-making in the end. It’s something he’s seeing and balancing in his first camp at Colorado State.
“A guy can grade 90 percent defensively and is not productive. He’s making a play one out of 45 snaps. He’s doing his job, but not making plays. Same thing offensively. A guy might know what to do, but he’s not making plays. … I don’t care if they know 1/10th of the playbook. If they’re playmakers and can change the game, we’ve got to find a way to get them on the field, as coaches.”
Get The Picture 
All well and good for 21 of the 22 positions on O and D.
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Not so sure…to me this explains Ramsey playing early in the Vandy game …until Mason lets it loose for a 40 yd strike to Conley.
I can imagine Bobo having this convo often with Mason early in the year.
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I would rather get the playmaking guys on the field as players, rather than on the field as coaches.
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Please see:
– Moreno, Knowshon
Also, explains why Logan Gray returned so many punts for TDs – cause he was a playmaker.
Wee bit inconsistent, no?
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Bobo wasn’t in charge of punt returns to my knowledge.
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Sounds like someone learned from redshirting Knowshon.
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It’s amazing that it took until 2011 or so for Richt to just top redshirting for the sake of redshirting. If he’d taken one look at what Pete Carroll was doing at USC or Urban Meyer down at Florida, it was painfully obvious that if a true freshmen are more talented than upper classmen, then you should play them. It builds a competitive culture and improves recruiting by showing young, talented guys that they can come in right away and make an impact if they’re good enough.
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Not to mention having thrown away a year of potential participation when the youngster goes to the NFL early.
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AuditDawg, you paint with too broad a brush. CMR played plenty of true freshmen over the years. Starting with Shockley in CMR’s first game, and including guys like Danny Ware, Sturdivant, Max Jean Gilles, etc.
You have a point though. We shoulda played Knowshon and probably Thomas Davis. But a couple screw-ups doesn’t make it a career pattern.
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The problem is of the 3 QB’s none of them have proven they can consistently make plays. Only two of them have even had a chance to and both of them scare me.
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“If they’re playmakers and can change the game, we’ve got to find a way to get them on the field.”
Spoken like a man happy to be free from the shackles of The Georgia Way.
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Or a man whose current school has 1/16th of the playmakers of his former.
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…what jabo052 said
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MY GRANDMOTHER KNOWS THAT, BOBO AND SHE KNOWS WHO THE PLAYMAKERS ARE, TOO!!!!!! EVERYONE IN THE STADIUM KNOWS WHO YOUR PLAYMAKERS ARE!!!!!!!!!! JUST RUN THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!
#SARCASM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
😉
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He must’ve learned that in 2006.
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Mike Bobo recruiting = the reason Georgia had a mediocre qb last season and 2 of the 3 that they have this year that are apparently even worse.
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He also had a hand in recruiting Murray and Eason, remember?
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I was almost one hundred percent certain that you would say that, Senator, and you’re right. However, Eason is still solid with us since Bobo’s departure so I’m not sure exactly how big of a factor Bobo’s presence really was. Then again, he also helped bring in Stafford.
Can we at lest agree that Mason last season, and the talent on depth chart this year are unacceptable for a program like Georgia?
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It’s the risk you run when you have a four-year starter like Murray, as there are going to be a few lean years with few 5-star kids wanting to sit.
As someone else noted, the real problem was that LeMay flopped.
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I am not willing to say that Mason was a bust–that’s total BS. The guy was a good QB. Just look at the stats–he just abot led the nation in completion percentage. The Dawgs only lost 3 games last year and 2 of them were because of end of game brain farts by the coaching staff, the other being that the team (the D primarily) didn’t show up ready to play. How is that the fault of the QB? Mason was and is a DGD!!
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When did I say Mason was a bust?
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Huston Mason certainly wasn’t a bust. The fact that he was even on Georgia’s football team as a scholarship player is far and away above anything that most would have expected after his high school career ended. I say that because no other major program even offered him a scholarship.
Here are some of his highlights that I think you’re overlooking.
Hutson Mason: Intentional grounding on the last possession against SC
Huston Mason : Interception in overtime against Tech to end the game
Huston Mason: Threw for less than 200 yards in both games
Todd Gurley: Longest pass from scrimmage for UGA in 2014 (I think that stood for the season).
Completion percentage doesn’t mean much if you’re only throwing the ball 5-6 yards down the field.
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Here are some other stats for you:
2014 South Carolina:
2014 Tech Game
Mason was a far cry from “mediocre” – he was a damn good quarterback for us and deserved a better W-L record in his senior season or the rap our “fans” continue to give him.
I challenge you to find a single CFB quarterback who throws 300+ passes in a season without an occasional inopportune interception or grounding penalty.
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First of all, passing yardage in a pro-style offense usually makes up more than 50% of your offensive production so I’m not sure what your point is there. Second, 300+ passing attempts isn’t very many, but even if it was Mason only had 277 attempts last season. They didn’t let him throw it because he had a weak arm.
I’m not blaming either of those losses on Mason, I’m just pointing out the obvious that he didn’t play well in either of them. Any way you slice it those are bad performances.
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Lemay brothers were both a disappointment. I guess I understand what happened to Christian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U8_LX7ccC4…
but Uriah just seemed to quit.
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Also that we didn’t recruit DeShaun Watson like the future heisman candidate that the obviously was.
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Also that we didn’t recruit DeShaun Watson like the future heisman candidate that he obviously was.
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I’ve had this conversation before. They recruited Watson, but they wouldn’t promise he’d be their only target at QB. Clemson did.
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Yeah, from where i sit that was a really bad move on Georgia’s (Bobo’s) part because they still ended up taking just one qb in that class, and it was Jacob Park who has since transferred bc he apparently (and surprisingly) wasn’t able to compete with our current stellar cast of talent.
Now Clemson has a heisman candidate at qb, and Georgia is taking scraps from Virginia.
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And has Eason coming in next year.
Seriously, there are topics of valid criticism concerning Richt and Bobo. QB recruiting ain’t one of ’em.
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Greene, Shockley, Stafford, and Murray were all great signs (despite the latter two never winning anything) but the gaps filled by Joe T, Cox, Mason and whoever gets it this year are cause for at least a small amount of criticism aren’t they? I mean come on, you have to admit that. Especially if this year pans out as expected. Georgia will be going on two years without a viable option at qb and all their hopes for 2016 will rest on a true freshman. Is that really acceptable?
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Joe T’s “gap” consisted of, what, four games? What exactly would you have done differently to bridge the gap between Shockley and Stafford?
This is a silly argument.
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Idk, recruit better players? Have a sophomore or junior with some actual talent on your roster ready to go? Sign a transfer? Is that an unreasonable expectation? That was Bobo’s claim to fame right?
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What stud QB recruit is going to take the chance of being wedged between Shockley and Stafford? And remember, Shockley only got one year behind the wheel because of Greene’s four-year run.
You got nothing here.
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Why not sign a quality qbin FIVE YEAR GAP between 2001 and 2006? Maybe 2004 or 2005. When is the last time you heard of a stud recruit not signing with a school because he was afraid of eventually losing his starting job to the budding high school sophomore that may or may not eventually follow him? It’s not rocket science, I’m just using logic and common sense here.
You’re harping on the Joe T gap and completely ignoring Cox, Mason, and this season. I love reading your stuff man, but you’re dug in way to hard on this one.
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Five star recruits may not be afraid of competition, but they want to play. Greene and Shockley sucked all the oxygen out of the tent in Richt’s first five seasons. And it’s not like Staff just popped up at the last minute on signing day. He was recruited hard for at least two years before then and everyone in the country knew he was Georgia’s top choice. (Plus, if I’m not mistaken, Richt did promise him Georgia wouldn’t recruit another QB in his class.)
You point to Watson as a Bobo whiff, but fail to note that what Clemson did in 2014 was exactly what Georgia did in ’06.
You act like every major program just seamlessly plugs in top-flight QB talent whenever it needs to. Check out this year’s SEC and let me know how that’s working out.
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Yeah, that kinda proves my earlier point. If they did it for Stafford then why wouldn’t they do it for Watson?
As for our current conversation we’re not talking about the same year, we’re talking about previous years. Maybe highly recruited qb prospects were afraid of eventually losing their job to Stafford. I guess there is no way to know for sure, what I do know is Thereshinski had two offers – Tech and UGA, Blake Barnes had four – the two in-state Mississippi schools, Michigan and UGA, and Joe Cox had two- Duke and UGA.
Barnes’ list is by far the most impressive and he only had 4 offers.
I think that might be an acceptable answer for me. Maybe they really expected Barnes to be a lot better than he was. Georgia didn’t even take a qb in 03, the same goes for 08.
High school qb evaluation has been running at about 50% and that doesn’t seem too great. Hopefully it’s on the upswing.
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By the way, can we wait until Watson makes it through an entire season without injury before we start anointing him with a Heisman candidacy?
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Fair point. Injury is a concern, but I have seen him on preseason heisman lists.
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So was Jacob Coker. 😉
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Ha, don’t compare that kid to Coker. Even is he is at Clemson nobody deserves that.
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Mason was fine after the first few games. Not great, but fine. And nothing about this year’s QBs has been determined yet. Until they actually take the field and play this year, you’re merely guessing about how good or bad they’ll be. Ramsey was an Elite 11 QB, so I fail to see how you can fault Bobo for recruiting him.
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Because he ran the wing-T at a high school that rarely threw the ball, and when they did he wasn’t very good at it. Ramsey was a better punter in high school than he was a passer.
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I didn’t watch him, but his stats were fine, and he did well at camps. His resume was about the same as Mettenberger’s.
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Mason certainly wasn’t the greatest QB who ever lived last year, but mediocre? He seemed pretty effective to me. He didn’t miss any blocks or tackles against Florida or S Carolina, and he didn’t fumble anything on the 2 yard line against Tech.
Mason didn’t play an error free season, and it’s a team game, but if everyone on the team played to the level of competence he displayed all year, or got as much out of their own ability as he got out of his, I have to think we’d have won more games.
Also, do you think maybe it’s a little early to write off this year’s entire QB depth chart? Or are you one of those folks who knows all there is to know about people he hasn’t seen play a snap yet? Maybe you should offer your services as a consultant.
We may be good, bad, mediocre or undefeated yet. If you already know which of those it will be, head to Vegas and put down some cash. When you come back in December with stacks of hundreds, I will be the first person to apologize for doubting you.
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Mason didn’t fumble against Tech but he threw the game losing interception into double coverage in OT. He didn’t miss any blocks (bc qb’s don’t block) against S Carolina, but he did intentionally ground the ball on the goal line during Georgia’s last possession. He also managed to pass for less than 200 yards in both of those games.
Mason did play pretty well against Florida, and I’m not mad at him because I believe that he gave the program his all, but the fact remains that Todd Gurley threw Georgia’s longest pass from scrimmage last season. Mason took care of the football, but he lacked the ability to throw it down field, and he couldn’t run. There is a reason that Georgia was the only major football program to offer him a scholarship.
I agree that if everyone got as much out of their own ability as Mason did then we could have gone undefeated in 2014. Heck, this kid should have been playing FCS ball and he started in the SEC. What an accomplishment! But, he still should have never seen the field for a program like UGA.
As far as our current qb depth all we have to go on are facts. Fact: As mediocre as Mason was, Bauta and Ramsey were riding the pine behind him. If that’s not enough for you perhaps you didn’t watch the Belk Bowl, so let me fill you in on the snaps I’ve watched. Ramsey was terrible after Mason left the game, his first pass attempt was a horrendously thrown interception. That’s just what we’ve seen of him so far. Meanwhile Greyson Lambert was up in Charlottesville scoring touchdowns for the other team, and from the practice reports I’ve read he’s the best looking player Georgia has right now.
I hope I’m wrong and I could be, but I doubt it. Please, if you have some legitimate evidence to the contrary I’d love to hear some good news since I’m purchasing a full season ticket package.
P.S. I’ve applied for several athletic support staff positions but I haven’t had any luck yet. Maybe I’ll forward them this thread at the end of the year.
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Oh for goodness sakes… you just wanna piss down someone’s back today and tell everyone it’s raining. Give it a rest.
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Feel free to correct me if I’m misrepresenting any facts.
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I’m not correcting anyone here. Facts are facts depending on who is stating them.
I hope I’m wrong and I could be, but I doubt it. Please, if you have some legitimate evidence to the contrary I’d love to hear some good news since I’m purchasing a full season ticket package.
Goodness… “No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride…and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well…maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten.”
There are no guarantees CB. BUT I like what I see.
Dif no comments on the Thailand experience.? 🙂
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Ha, if you’re quoting Hunter S Thompson then there’s a good chance you’re seeing things that aren’t really there.
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Mississippi State and Virginia offered. FSU offered right after Georgia did.
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I stand corrected one other legitimate football program offered Mason.
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You said “major”. MSU and Virginia are both in major conferences. Stop moving goalposts.
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I said major referring to programs. Nobody said anything about conferences, and nobody is impressed with an offer from Mississippi State or Virginia.
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Major programs are normally defined as programs in major conferences.
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If you consider Duke, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Virginia, Iowa State, Washington State etc to be major football programs then I don’t know what to tell you, but I don’t because they aren’t.
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Other things you’re wrong about:
The grounding call against South Carolina was a bad call, so he didn’t really ground it.
After a rough start, Mason did hit some shots down the field. Off the top of my head I can think 6 well thrown deep balls, and since I can’t remember every single play, that means there were others. So he could, in fact, throw it down field.
Mason was the best QB on the roster at the time, and he finished 10th in the nation in QB rating last year. So while your statement is an opinion and not a fact, it certainly doesn’t hold up to scrutiny that he should not have seen the field at a program like UGA.
Your “fact” about the current depth chart is based on the opinion that Mason was mediocre, which is an incorrect opinion.
Ramsey was bad when he first came in for an injured Mason in the bowl game. He played a little better later. He also came into other games and flashed some real ability at times. He also made some terrible decisions. I’m not refuting your “fact” here, but I am giving it some context. There’s reason to believe that Ramsey can play, and there’s reason to think he will be a turnover machine. We’ll find out when the season is played.
P.S. I hope nobody ever hires you. Feel free to forward that to whomever you like.
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I’m not sure I can even respond to this. It’s just too ridiculous. You’re basing your argument off of passes that you can’t remember? That has to be a joke right? Also, opinions can’t be incorrect because they’re subjective.
I’m almost certain that Mason didn’t throw 6 good looking deep balls over the course of the entire season. Perhaps our definitions of “good” or “deep balls” are different.
If I forward anything to anyone it’ll be a youtube tutorial of football basics to your e-mail account.
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Winner!
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“Mason didn’t play an error free season, and it’s a team game, but if everyone on the team played to the level of competence he displayed all year, or got as much out of their own ability as he got out of his, I have to think we’d have won more games.”
I love this and it’s why I have a lot of respect for Mason. No doubt he wasn’t the most talented QB Georgia has had recently, but the guy played smart and he played with everything he had. A DGD for sure.
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Right…because Georgia struggled mightily at the QB position during Bobo’s tenure. You also forget Mettenberger had to leave and Lemay didn’t pan out which was the only big miss at QB in recruiting.
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How many of you football geniuses would have by-passed Hutson Mason after he broke most of Georgia high school QB records? Then you’d be an idiot!
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That means that every major college football coach in the country is an idiot because nobody offered him outside or Georgia.
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of Georgia*
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How did I know that 68 replies to this article = stupid ass troll rehashing the same “talking points” ad nauseum.
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Oh, don’t be like that. Just because you disagree with me doesn’t mean I’m a troll, and just because you use a Latin term doesn’t mean you’re smarter than me. I’m just with a guy different point of view who wants the same thing you do.
This entire post is a rehash about a coach who is no longer with the program so we’ve landed in a pot and kettle situation. All I know is, statistics aside (believe me I can think of as many bad ones as you can good ones) whatever we were doing with Bobo as a play caller yielded 0 SEC championships despite having Stafford and Murray.
I have no clue if Schottenheimer will be better than Bobo, but I’m excited that we’ve moved on from the formula that wasn’t getting Georgia where they want to be. I’ve always said that Georgia can definitely do a lot worse than Bobo, and was even open to the possibility that they could win a title with him, but I’ve always been fairly certain that they could do better. I guess time will tell.
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Yep… gotta call it CB. Oh, don’t be like that. You’ve used that line before LOL. You’re a troll. Hope you had some fun while it lasted. YOu changing up your ip addresses? How many names do you use here anyway?
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The whole second thread is me arguing with myself under two screen names (eye roll).
I take umbrage to your troll label. Trolls don’t engage in intelligent debate. I haven’t insulted anyone, or called anyone names, and whether you agree with me or not I can back up everything I say with evidence and statistics. When I am proved to be incorrect I will admit that (ie Mason was offered by FSU, I had forgotten about that when I said no other major program offered him).
From a philosophical point of view it seems that in your cartoon posting and your attempt at troll shaming you have revealed yourself as the true troll. Realistically you probably just have nothing of substance to offer to the discussion, but you still want your voice to be heard so you resorted to trolling without even realizing it.
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Why CB! What an ugly thing to say! Does this mean we are not friends anymore?
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^^^ Troll bait
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Every time I hear about a player’s “upside” I cringe because those players most ALWAY have a corresponding “downside” to go with it. In todays college game with all the spread offenses everyone wants a gun-slinger quarterback that can run like the wind. I’ll admit it, I thought Mason was boring last year, but at the same time I didn’t get as many gray hairs due to turnovers. There is something to be said for that. So when you start yelling for the exciting guy behind center, be careful what you ask for, you may get it.
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Anybody remember James Jackson, from the mid ’80’s? For every great play, he made a corresponding clunker. We weren’t exactly lighting it up in those days! Your playmaker has to have a brain!!!
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I had a buddy from UGA who was the former QB for the Bremen Blue Devils. He used to say JJ was an exciting player who would always make the big game deciding play, you just never knew if would decide the game for us or against us. The Thrilla from Camilla! He was sometimes erratic, but he was always going full speed.
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Man those were fun teams.
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This whole QB thing is like a father with three son’s of driving age trying to decide which son gets the keys to the Mercedes. I have a feeling dad is going to pick the one that is the least likely to wreck the car not the one who seems to drive the fastest.
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Jonathan Rumph.
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Pingback: “I hate the term manage the game. We’re not looking for that. We want a guy that can go out and make plays as well. Certainly there’s going to be a lot of vertical elements to what we do. At the end of the day their job is to move the team and score