Ludagate and the arrogance of ineptitude

After the news came out about Ludacris stepping up to appear at G-Day, somebody asked me what I thought he was being paid for that.  Reflecting on what major acts pull down at concerts these days – the Stones made enough at their last Atlanta show to pay Georgia Tech more than half a million dollars just to use BDS for a couple of hours – and the fact that the deal was put together on short notice, I guessed between fifty and a hundred thousand dollars.  Big time entertainment ain’t cheap, especially when you can’t pass the cost on to ticket buyers.

And yet look where we are now.  Ludacris was praised for stepping up and bailing out Greg McGarity, puts on what was by all accounts a successful show, but a $65,000 paycheck and a box of condoms later, it’s all turned to ashes somehow.  Really?  “Artist gets paid major bucks and has a quirky shopping list” is supposed to be scandalous somehow?  On what planet?

A little perspective might be in order, methinks.

Starting with Kirby Smart.

Kirby Smart mostly talked football during a Thursday interview on the SEC Network’s Paul Finebaum Show. But at the end of the interview Georgia’s head football coach was asked about the G-Day Ludacris concert, and revelations about UGA’s contract with the rap star…

“To be honest with you I don’t have much of a reaction,” Smart said. “I wasn’t privy to the contract, and didn’t see much of it. I’ve only seen the publications of it, and obviously we’ve gotta do a better job of managing situations like that.”

Oy.  Dude, no.  You look at Finebaum, grin, crack a joke about artists being temperamental (M&Ms references are always good for a chuckle in this context), thank Ludacris for stepping up in the program’s time of need, praise the energy he contributed to the day and move on.  What you don’t do is mutter some ominous threat about doing a better job in the future.  And what’s that gonna be, anyway?  Telling the next act to bring their own rubbers to Athens?

We all know what this is really about.  Kirby, McGarity and the entire athletic department apparatus don’t have time for that shit.

Smart didn’t elaborate. Earlier in the interview, he did make an oblique mention about “distractions” when asked about managing expectations for highly-touted freshman quarterback Jacob Eason.

“I think the best thing you can do is provide distractions, Paul, which seems to be what we’re able to do here in Georgia is get a lot of distractions for him,” Smart said. “Because we’ve had a lot of other stuff going on that has kept him out of the media.”

Gee, maybe he should be a little more grateful, then.

Mockery aside, this is what the change in the Open Records law is really about.  It’s not to protect recruiting secrets, or about preserving Butts-Mehre’s precious energy. (How hard is it to multi-task in an era of bloated support staffing, anyway?)  It’s about the reality that these guys absolutely suck at PR and don’t feel like making any effort to improve.  Call it “The Butts-Mehre Relief Act of 2016” and at least be honest about it.

Hell, just think about the absurdity of this particular situation for a minute.  Smart didn’t read the contract, but presumably somebody in the athletic department did.  And by “somebody”, I mean McGarity.  (If he didn’t, then perhaps there’s your real scandal.)  Georgia knew what the terms were well before the information got out to the public, and yet the athletic department was either unwilling or unable to prepare a competent explanation in the time it had available to do so.  So it left Kirby Smart hanging instead.

Now there will be even less need to devote effort to things like that, as time heals a lot of self-inflicted wounds.  It’s the mark of an organization that doesn’t give a shit about making an attempt to look competent and confident in how it manages its affairs and instead preferred to look for an easy way around that.  It’s the same kind of attitude that I took exception to in this post.

They simply don’t care.  Maybe you’re fine with that.  I presume if you’re in the “just win, baby” camp, that’s likely.  If you are, maybe you can explain to me exactly what a box of condoms has to do with winning and losing.  Because I’m not seeing how success on the field and making the effort to be accessible are mutually exclusive.  I guess that means I’ll never be AD material.


UPDATE:  C’mon, man.

The late addition of landing Ludacris to perform prior to last Saturday’s G-Day game brought added excitement to Georgia’s spring football game, but Sanford Stadium may have been filled up anyway, Bulldogs coach Kirby Smart said.

“It probably was overrated with the fans that came,” Smart said Thursday in an interview with SiriusXM Radio. “I really think a lot of people had already made their minds up that they were coming anyway. It ended up being a great atmosphere for our recruits. It was really cool. I know the recruits enjoyed it. Some of the players did. Some of them were kidding me about Ludacris because they say that’s my generation. I’ll leave that to each person to make his own decision.”

Now if he says the same thing about blasting loud music over Sanford’s PA system during games…


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116 responses to “Ludagate and the arrogance of ineptitude

  1. rchris

    Universities pass out condoms like candy to their students all the time to make sure they’re practicing safe sex. I’m with you Senator. A wink, a little chuckle, and then move on. I’m just glad he kept the lyrics clean.

  2. Timphd

    I’m not sure they (McGarity in particular) doesn’t care. I just think he’s dumber than dirt and his PR skills are atrocious. All they had to say was, “yes it was expensive but it added so much to the GDay experience and we are happy with that” and it would have gone away. Smart isn’t the one who should be answering the questions either. That falls on the AD. Of course if Kirby chooses to speak on it, some PR lessons from the Senator might be helpful. Seems all those years being behind the curtain with Saban stunted his growth with public relations.

    • Raleigh St. Claire

      Seriously. Aren’t we overthinking this just a bit? Greg McGarity is in over his head and is very, very bad at his job.

      At this stage in the game, there’s not a whole lot left other than hoping the rumors of his imminent departure are true.

      For me, his handling of the Todd Gurely saga, from a PR standpoint, was grounds for termination.

      • old dog

        well…when ‘red panties’ had to blow out of Athens, McGarity may have been the best available replacement…you know what they say…’the best applicant gets the job not necessarily the best person for the job’…

        whenever sex comes up (in this case implied by the the condoms) geez…lots of folks will get their drawers in a wad…we still live in a somewhat puritanical world, don’t we? 😉

  3. ASEF

    There’s a scandal here? Am I missing something?

    • You’re not the only one.

      • Irwin R. Fletcher

        If there is anything to this story whatsoever it is this:
        1) That the staff that did this agreement were so dumb that they didn’t just take a sharpie over some of the rider terms that may not fit the PR message…for crying out loud, just mark through the Belevedere and condoms and initial it.

        2) I think this goes back to the bigger issue…there wasn’t going to be a concert because BM didn’t want to pay for it/put effort into it. Our AD decided to go on the record that ‘he couldn’t work it out’ instead of just staying silent and letting it die a slow death because they weren’t actually going to do anything on it…So he goes on record as saying ‘No one wants to do it’….Oops….Ludacris says…hey, I like Georgia and I like money and I like performing at cool places like Sanford Stadium in front of 93K….you get the feeling that there was some ‘well, we will put on a concert if we have to’ and somewhere in the pouting, doing the little things like reading the rider and thinking about PR issues related to it got missed.

        I just get the feeling that if Bill Battle goes on record saying ‘we don’t have an act and we won’t have an act’ that would be the end of it…whereas when McGarity says anything at this point, it’s almost like we are all waiting for him to get contradicted.

        • Irwin R. Fletcher

          dumb is a little harsh….replace dumb with ‘complacent’

        • Bottom line: don’t make an announcement about a concert until you have a signed contract.

          It’s not really that hard.

          • watcher16

            Or knowing that open records are in place, reach out to Luda’s people and verbally tell him we will get him the condoms if they are really necessary, and have it removed from the final signed contract.

            • I agree with this. To me it seemed like a rushed deal and they used his standard rider…without even looking at it. For as long as he was there, Ludacris might not have even expected all that shit. I’d imagine that most of those demands come from being on a tour bus for months at a time–but in this case I imagine he came to the gig from his house or a hotel room downtown.

              • Irwin R. Fletcher

                Ludacris might not have even expected all that (stuff)

                One way to find out…do an open records request on receipts for purchases related to the rider. We can all find out in late-July.

          • Gurkha Dawg

            Yep. But these types of unforced screw ups are becoming a regular thing for GM. How he ever rose to this position is really amazing. Great example of the Peter principle.

    • PTC DAWG

      Agree, Saturday was a raging success, IMHO.

  4. Ben

    These riders are not about M&Ms, condoms, and t-shirts. They’re about making sure both parties hold up their deal. Ludacris didn’t need 12 condoms from Greg McGarity, and Van Halen didn’t need only green M&Ms. They both needed to make sure the guy who brought them there read the whole contracts. If there are no condoms or M&Ms, what else did the venue ignore? Safety things? Concert riggings? Sound equipment settings?

    This is just another example of arrogance and ineptitude on the management front, and GM needs his guy to win some football games, or else he’ll be lucky to manage the Watkinsville Rec Dept.

  5. Cojones


    Certainly, Ludacris was a bargain, but we have small-minded people interacting with the public to piss on our football program’s parade. They have been doing that for some time, as if they are the people who tell you whether you enjoy something or not.

    What did you expect in the politically conservative world called the Ga Legislature/Butts Meyer/ UGA coaching cabal that is reported by the AJC? The judgment of our football program is run by that bunch and what they say in public is the pabulum that they think we want to hear. That is probably true for many who don’t enjoy each game, but instead want the satisfaction of being called the #1 perceived football team in ‘Murica. This is as insane as Donald Trump and emulating the Alabama football program.

    The remaining question is: “Were they large or small condoms?”.

  6. Jason

    On the Surface… providing Magnums along with alcohol for a performer doesn’t look great for a company. But in the context of its a University… Safe Sex posters are everywhere… free condoms are available.. This really should be a non story.

  7. So I put on concerts for a living and see riders all the time. Two things about them:

    They’re general and not made for each individual show. If you’re doing your job you call management and ask “hey what of these things do you actually need.” So Luda, who has probably needed a condom or two in the green room after (before?) a show has a rider with some stuff in it. There’s zero chance anyone from the Uga athletic department actually bought him a magnum Trojan for his 15 minute afternoon gig at Sanford.
    Riders sometimes are ridiculous on purpose. I think it was Van Halen that had the infamous “bowl of green m&ms” in theirs. They did that because the wanted to know people were reading the rider, because their gear has some really highly dangerous electrical equipment that if not set up right could kill them. If they didn’t get w call about the m&ms they knew there could be trouble generally with the production. Again, I’m sure (I think) someone from uga called Luda’s manager and asked “hey what of this stuff do you really need.” Probably it was the towels, some water, and food for the crew.

    Anyone getting bent out of shape about the rider should calm down. And 65k and a box of Trojans for a hugely popular artist to play isn’t bad at all, especially if it helped recruiting.

  8. W Cobb Dawg

    Don’t need an open records request to know McGarity is a baffoon with P.R. I say it every time something like this comes up: there’s no isssue, no mater how commical or inconsequential, that McGarity can’t make worse.

    • Sanford222view

      I can’t believe everyone is missing the real burning issue! What were the batteries for? Nothing on that rider required batteries! Not to mention both the AA and AAA variety!

  9. Bulldog Joe

    Kirby’s just a football coach.

    It would have been more entertaining to hear Greg and The Georgia Way preach the moral virtue in putting a wrapper on the rapper.

  10. Noonan

    I would like to see James Brown’s rider from his Sanford Stadium gig.

  11. DawgByte

    Blutarsky – I think you’ve missed Kirby’s point… not surprising though.

    Kirby’s goal isn’t a one-off 93K G-Day. He wants Sanford packed every year for G-Day, because he knows what message it sends to recruits and the image it projects about the program. The administration needs to do a much better job of scheduling entertainment before the scrimmage and during half-time to help keep more butts in the seats for a longer period of time. It was disgraceful that so many people left at the half!!!

    In case you haven’t figured it out yet… Kirby’s a perfectionist and always seeking improvement. In this case he’s dead on – there’s room for improvement on the entertainment front and a number of other areas associated with putting on a 93K G-Day.

  12. DawgPhan

    It’s like smart is just saying what he thinks Saban would say. His response to all of these are awful. He blames UGA for hiring a rapper. He says it didn’t matter. And then the topper is that he gives himself some sort of action item that he neither plans on attending to or even could attend to.

    It’s like he is just playing Saban.

  13. Macallanlover

    Said before having a mini-concert15minutes before the team took the field was ore a distraction than a plus (and no, it didn’t matter the artist or their genre). We had over a hundred piece band march in and sit virtually silent for 3+ hours. And band music is a vital part of what college football is all about. Instead, we pay a performer to stand in a small corner off the field and sing for 13 minutes through an inferior sound system and then blast loud music into the snap count throughout the game. More like a Falcons game than a UGA experience, not a good direction to be trending.

  14. Hardcoredawg 93

    There have been several posts on this blog about the open records law change. You are just now figuring out that the change in the law is helping Kirby and Uga avoid distractions (what you call “precious energy”)? That was obvious from the get-go.

    If this law was already in effect it would be the middle of July before the AJC/ABH could poke around for this story. It is likely that it would never be written because they would have moved on and focused on SEC media days. That is a benefit to Kirby and I am all for it. Let the guy do his thing.

    Or, we could just continue to nitpick at Kirby and the AD, wax eloquent about 1980 and the Richt era when we could pretend that somehow we had the moral high ground to our rivals.

    • DawgPhan

      are you always going to be like this?

    • You are just now figuring out that the change in the law is helping Kirby and Uga avoid distractions (what you call “precious energy”)?

      Um, no.

      And evidently you still haven’t figured out the change in the law isn’t about Smart, but McGarity. Guess I’ll have to post a few more times before you get it.

      • Hardcoredawg 93

        Please no more posts on this . The 10 already is plenty.

        • As I say to everyone with your perspective, don’t read ’em if you don’t want to. Your loss, not mine.

        • DawgPhan

          If we are going to maintain our spot as arguably the most covered sports team in the universe then the senator must cover ever story in great detail. It’s like you arent committed to winning.

          • Hardcoredawg 93

            Well, the coverage in great detail is definitely happening.

            There is a ton of positive shit going on with the football team right now in case you guys haven’t noticed. Keep bitching about open record law changes, new transfer rules, etc., though.

            This open record law change is a good thing.

            • There is a ton of positive shit going on with the football team right now in case you guys haven’t noticed.

              It’s a shame I never post anything about that.

              I get that you like the change. Just quit trying to convince the rest of us it’s a good thing.

            • Chuck Dowdle is on the air three times a week if you prefer to live in a bubble where nobody says a single negative thing about Georgia athletics. I mean – I prefer reality, but whatevs. Nobody’s forcing you to read the Senator’s work or the comments here.

              • Hardcoredawg 93

                “Whatevs”. That’s cute. I hope you really don’t say things like that.

                • Only with folks whose tribalism is so strong that nuance doesn’t even register with them.🙂

                  Saying that we disagree with how certain things about Georgia’s athletic department are run doesn’t mean we are anti-Georgia or anti-Kirby. It merely means that we don’t live in a black and white world where we have to fall in line with everything because Georgia athletics says so. I can absolutely support the football program at my alma mater while disagreeing with some of the steps it takes along the way. Not sure why that’s such a difficult concept for you to wrap your head around.

                  • Hardcoredawg 93

                    The comment about tribalism is not accurate at all. I’ve been very vocal for about 8 years now about shaking things up with the football team.

                    The second part of your post (except the last snarky sentence) was good. I can totally understand that. However, when there are about 10 posts spanning 2 weeks on the open records law alone, and literally hundreds of comments attacking kirby or the AD, it comes across as bitching and whiny as that topic is beaten to death.

                    Things are finally, finally, on the upswing. Kick back a little and enjoy it instead of trying express so much outrage with the AD about unjust transfer policies or a perceived threat to all of our rights with this new 90 day law.

                    • However, when there are about 10 posts spanning 2 weeks…

                      And how many other posts did I deliver in that time period?

                      Again, if you’re not interested in a particular topic, don’t read about it. You’ll feel better and you’ll irritate the rest of us a lot less because you’re not complaining about it incessantly. It’s not that hard, and it’s not like I don’t give you plenty of other stuff to read here.

                    • Hardcoredawg 93

                      I whine? That’s rich.

                      You should go back and read some old posts and their comments. I simply stated a couple positions and defended them.

                      I will give you the last word, Senator. It’s your blog. And, believe it or not, have enjoyed it for several years now.

          • +1
            I got a good laugh out of this. Thanks!

    • sniffer

      Or, we could just continue to nitpick at Kirby and the AD

      We have a PR nightmare roaming around in the form of UGA’s athletics director. He has shown many times that he is incapable of getting in front of a bad story. I would hardly deem that nitpicking.

      • To quote one of our fellow commenters – “that doesn’t fit their narrative.”

      • Hardcoredawg 93

        A lot lot of readers on this blog have been worked up over time about McGarity. Now, I can’t say I’m a huge fan but I don’t think he is as inept and as terrible as he gets portrayed here continually. At least he did make a tough decision last fall for much needed change.

  15. dawgfan

    Look at the big picture. $65,000 to help get over 100,000 in Athens for the spring game was a gift to Athens and the surrounding area. What was the economic impact? Athens/Clarke county needs to step up and help sponsor the event next year. Look what JAX spends for GA / Fla. For goodness sakes though, leave condoms out of the deal!

  16. mike

    I am honestly surprised no one has complained about the lyrical content of the performance. Although hard to hear with the echoes/distortion, most people knew what he was rapping. I don’t really mind seeing as how that is “my generation”, but it was odd having children surround me and hearing “rough sex make it hurt! in the garden or in the dirt!” “move ___ get out the way”. I could have put money on an old booster making at least one complaint, but none! Maybe music can tame even the most timid beast.

    • Normaltown Mike

      They don’t call it the Dirty South for nothing. These old boosters got down to “superman that ho” almost a decade ago so Ludacris is nothing new.

      • Macallanlover

        In defense of “old boosters”, of which I am one, we don’t know, hear, or understand the lyrics. Do you think people, including Verne and Gary, knew what that song was about in 2007? I was disgusted about it then, and now, as I was when someone told me about the ones on Saturday.

        I am confused about a society that marches in the street, and sues in the courts, about both verbal and physical violence against women/blacks but has no problem with allowing this content on records or in concerts….especially available to teens and younger children. If this is considered “get off my lawn” or free speech suppression, so be it. We send millions of mixed messages daily and then wonder why people don’t get the distinction of when it is cool, and not.

        • Mac, I presume you watched the same cartoons I did in my youth. How is the violence depicted in those any different than what you’re complaining about?

          At some point it comes down to being raised right. And that’s not on Hollywood or the music industry.

          • mamatried

            +1000 and “get off my lawn”

          • Macallanlover

            While I would never argue with “being raised right” as a key factor you and I see the cartoon violence with the Roadrunner, or Roy Rogers and The Lone Ranger killing bad guys from totally different perspectives when juxtaposed against the lyrics of “kill the police” or “slap the bitch”. We have people marching in the streets during the day to worry about the changing usage of language terms, then buying tickets that night to listen and dance to lyrics meant to be offensive to the same groups they wanted to protect earlier in the day.

            Intent is part of the issue, but inconsistency is more my point. The same women’s groups who go ballistic over an off color joke in the workforce supported, and voted for Bill Clinton when he used his powerful position to get a BJ in the oval office. I am against making the workplace uncomfortable for women but there is a great difference between a little Johnny joke and condoning “the casting couch” in such a public manner. Yet the organizations like NOW were total crickets. I see the same mixed message with my comment and the attempt to confuse the issue by rationalizing bad behavior with song lyrics, videos, etc. Different opinions I guess, but I feel we have to take stands and stand by them. And some are more offensive than others by degree.

          • Cosmic Dawg

            The difference between the violence in rap and Elmer Fudd is we knew Elmer Fudd was a joke. Anyway, kids don’t watch uber violent cartoons anymore.

            I agree that it’s on the family to make sure the kids are being raised right – if lyrics about “rough sex in the dirt…make it hurt” is the new normal, I guess I’m one of those crazies who doesn’t think the “family fun” of G-Day is appropriate for my four-year old – or for any public forum.

        • Derek

          You really can’t see the difference between “shooting a man in Reno just what him die” and singing a song with the lyric “I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die?” Seriously?

          Can a crime victim’s rights organization member own a Merle haggard album without being called a hypocrite?

          Is Merle haggard responsible for senseless violence because he wrote “mama tried”? If not, what the fuck are you blabbering about?

          • Cosmic Dawg

            I appreciate your point, that one feels safer because it’s white country guys and one feels scary because it’s black rappers. I’m going to make a little bit of distinction between rap and hip hop below.

            However, with both of the aforementioned country songs the singer is singing about his regrets, not exhorting people to follow his lead or necessarily celebrating violence, and the lyrics are far less graphic than many everyday rap song lyrics. You’re also equating the tone of a single line or two of a song with entire albums of anger and debauchery in much of rap music.

            Those songs also represented a much smaller percentage of all country music at the time, but finding violence or something jaw-droppingly offensive in rap music is not too tough.

            Finally, you’re talking about songs written and recorded 40-50 years ago. Shouldn’t we expect our artists to be more enlightened than they were 50 years ago? As Mac points out, why is violence or misogyny only bad when (likely) Republicans do it?

            btw, for someone who claims to care about right and wrong, you continue to be pretty rude to anyone who disagrees with you, regardless of how decent and reasonable they are in trying to express an opinion.

            • Derek

              Where do people’s “fee fees” fall in right and wrong? I do care about right and wrong. I’m not too worried about people’s sensibilities.

              My point is simply that conduct and lyrics and art and movies have not a damn thing to do with the other. I don’t give a fuck about Tarantino movies or gangsta rap or death metal or horror movies or songs by Johnny Cash.

              The suggestion that you’re pro-violence or that you’ve lost the moral capacity to complain about murder because you find any of those things enjoyable, is just fucking stupid. It’s not a matter of opinion. It’s a matter of fact.

              I’d just like to see one African American get on tv and draw a line from country music lyrics to slavery to death metal to the genocide of the American Indians to tobe hunter and Martin Scorsese flicks and mass shootings and point his finger and say “what’s wrong with white people!” That would justifiably be seen as fucking stupid, but bill-o can sit on Fox News and do it every day of the week and idiots sit at home and nod their heads in agreement. If you don’t realize it’s fucking stupid turn the analogy around and see how it holds up. If you can’t do that, you’re probably fucking stupid. In my opinion, fucking stupid people need to be told. Maybe it’ll help. If it makes you mad when you’re stupidity is pointed out to you, I’d suggest being less stupid.

              • Tim In Sav

                Well well it didn’t take Derek long to trot out his voluminous vocabulary of the “F” word

              • Mike Cooley

                Derek you’re a whiny ass and a prick. And I think if I ever had to be in the same room with you I would slap the living shit out of you. But on this subject, you’re mostly right.

                • Mike Cooley

                  Never mind, Derek. Just read through the whole exchange. In context of what the other guys said, you’re response makes you look as crazy as a run over dog. As usual.

                  • Derek

                    I feel better now. If you agreed with anything I thought, I’d have to re-evaluate. It’s important to me that my posts make you angry and leave you with the urge to commit violence. (That rage is probably due to listening to too much outlaw country music btw.) Your disdain is proof that I’m right.

                    Comfort the afflicted. Afflict the comfortable.

                    • Mike Cooley

                      lol. I could take a Viking cruise on the river of stupid, self congratulatory bullshit that flows from your mouth.

              • Cosmic Dawg

                Derek, you get so angry that you can’t hear what other people are saying, even people who probably philosophically have a lot in common with you.

                While you can of course point out examples outside of rap where killers are glorified, or women are disrespected, in video games, or movies, it is never the entirety of a medium or a subculture the way it is with rap music, or to the extreme. I believe a steady stream of rap has had a deleterious effect on young black kids, and that art can have a heavy influence on culture.

                While I appreciate that there is a lot of hopelessness in that community, I don’t believe rap’s twin message of violence / victimhood is helping those kids.

                • Derek

                  I’m certain they all appreciate your paternalism very, very much. I’d suggest that it’s grossly inappropriate to suggest that you know what’s better for a set of people than they do. Moreover, what the fuck can you do with that opinion of yours? Ban rap? Convince them to have different musical tastes? We’re the conditions of the neighborhoods your so concerned about appreciably better before “rappers delight” was recorded? I think that one could make a quite convincing argument that things are actually better for most African Americans in 2016 than they were in 1970. That’s probably because of the deleterious effects of Marvin Gaye and the Jackson Five.

                  I mean at some point you just need to look in the mirror and tell the guy staring back that you’re full of shit.

                  • Mike Cooley

                    Derek if you care so deeply for the “inner city” folks why don’t you shut your cock holster and go live among them and try to help rather than sit around act like you know what your talking about from your nice, safe, white neighborhood? Lol. You are so full of shit.

                    • Derek

                      Yep, because it was I who started the preaching about knowing all about it and how to fix the issues with magic elixir like: it’s rap lyrics! I think others were doing that and I just suggested they were just full of shit, but it’s apparent that only one of us is literate.
                      BTW: I do live within the city limits of a large, majority African-American city. Thus, as per usual, your head is stuck neatly within your own anal cavity.

                  • Cosmic Dawg

                    I’m a libertarian, man – I don’t want to enforce anything but freedom. That’s very different than saying I can’t have an opinion. I believe you suggested earlier that “poor whites voted against their interests” – what is that, if not suggesting you know what’s better for another set of people?

                    The question you need to ask is, “comparable to the rest of the population, are things better for blacks in 2016 than they were in 1970?” and my answer is “no”. If I’m wrong, then why are you griping? Why is the Black Lives Matter crowd so pissed off?

                    Also, do you really think I’m talking about “Rapper’s Delight”, here? I very pointedly made a distinction between hardcore rap and hip hop above. I used to be a talent buyer and booked KRS-One, Rahzel, etc.

                    You are right, though – my opinion is paternalistic. I really love kids, and I hate when people lie to them, whether it’s the Lindsey Graham or Ice Cube.

                    But listen, I’m just part of the problem – anyone who even hints at trying to talk to you from any point of view other than your own – don’t excuse their awkwardness, even as they excuse yours. You give them the business. Keep dropping the f-bombs and pounding your finger into their chests. Get in their ear. They’ll learn. You’re just not interested.

                    • Mike Cooley

                      Derek would get his ass kicked if he acted like this anywhere but the internet. He’s most likely a sexually frustrated, beta male, who has never been taken seriously and mocked most of his life. Thus all the rage toward anyone who dares not agree with him and the constant need to try to prove to everyone he encounters that he really is smart.

                      The Rappers Delight reference was hilarious.

                    • Derek

                      Does libertarian equal dumb? To think that blacks were better off in 1970 than 46 years later is just painfully fucking stupid on almost every level. It’s almost crosses from stupid into something more akin to insanity. By what objective measure can you say that? Do you really think that BLM is more militant and more angry than the groups that existed in 1970? This isn’t a matter of disagreement, I think you may need professional intervention.

                      Think about this: an 8 year old black male in 2016 knows nothing but a president that looks like him. The same 8 yo in 1970 would not believe he had a chance in hell to be president.

            • Macallanlover

              Don’t expect da-rek to get anything significant about the major points, rather he prefers to nit pick with the exceptions. If he cannot see the problem with violence in the black culture as a huge issue, and a major factor in their not moving forward, he isn’t tuned in to what happens daily (yes, across racial lines but magnified within that specific race.) But everyone has opinions, if he feels better dwelling on the fact that all cultures have some issues while ignoring those which are condemning one to epically fail, let him sit in that spot and spin his tales. It is a damned shame given the opportunities many are missing out on….white, black, or brown.

              • Derek

                If you think that the media outlets that play up black violence are sympathetic and want to help you’re even dumber than I thought. It’s about spreading fear about a race and convincing the fearful to cast their votes for republicans. It’s also about convincing one set of people that it’s not worth the effort to help, assist or give a rats ass about another set of people because it’s all their fault anyway. It’s race baiting politics at its most base. It’s George Wallace politics with a smile and no n-words. You go be a “pawn in thier game”, but I’m never going to be dumb enough to believe that there is a violence/melonin correlation. There certainly are a lot of problems in some urban communities. Those problems aren’t going to be solved by pointing a finger and scaring the hell out of white people. It does however make for powerful politics when trying to get white people to vote against their own economic interests so I don’t expect it to go away anytime soon.

                You do understand that your average person of African descent in this country is about one-third European European right? How did that happen? Is it because as Donald Trump said about a different group of people: “they’re rapists and some I assume are good people?” You are insulated from that sort of rhetoric in mainstream politics because you are part of the largest demographic in the country. Think about what types of rhetoric might be launched at people that looked like you if you weren’t so privileged by numbers and then try to find it within yourself to be sympathetic to those who are the victims of the politics of hate.

                • Macallanlover

                  Sad response that further shows how much you just don’t get. To you it is all an evil conspiracy by the media (most of which lean left, or far left) yet they all quote the same statistics, and have the same opportunity to spread opposing viewpoints or challenge the stats. So the black on black crime figures , numbers in prison, percentage below the poverty line, unemployment rates, broken homes, percentage born out of wedlock, etc., etc., are just made up. Actually, establishing a different culture in the United States as opposed to taking a path like immigrants from other countries have done and embrace American values is a wild success. Got it, brilliant.

                  Really not worth anyone debating you on issues da-rek. Much better things to do with my time. Why wish for trying something different when the current path is working so well for blacks? Oh, that’s right, they can take solace that the entire race has come so far because the person in the Oval Office for the past 7+ years has bettered their plight….oh, wait. Running from problems isn’t the solution da-rek, sometimes you have to man up and admit there is a serious problem and begin addressing them. Hint: the solutions will not come from the government, or white people; the changes have to come from black faces looking in the mirror and recognizing changes have to begin in their own households, neighborhoods, and across racial lines. Honestly, like you, the tendency seems to be: blame someone else. Good luck with that, and how well is that trending? Enough.

                  • Mike Cooley

                    Careful. Derek lives in the hood. He and his buddies might come after you. Derek keeps it real holding down the mean streets of Roswell. Lol.

                  • DawgPhan

                    I do love that in your mind blacks having lower income is an example of blacks being lesser than whites.

                    nice work.

                    • Mike Cooley

                      …pig headed moral superiority at its worst. Nobody said anything close to that.

                      Which blacks are we talking about? All of them? You think all black people are poor? Which whites are we talking about? All of them? Do you really think all white people are better off than all black people?

                      The problem with the lazy thinking liberal is he separates people into groups. There is no room for individuals and individual stories. Only groups and behaviors and status assigned to the entirety of each by the clueless liberal asshole who doesn’t know just how much he doesn’t know.

                  • Derek

                    Never said that the numbers were made up. They aren’t and it’s tragic. We’d do something about them if we gave a shit but we don’t. I do know that the issues aren’t because of biggie smalls though because those same issues existed before and after his short career. Your, and other’s, complaints about rap lyrics are nothing more than trite, meaningless dribble.

                    My point is that fear of black people has a very long tradition as a political tool in this country to gain political power. If you don’t know that you’re a fucking idiot. If you think it stopped sometime, tell me when you think that happened. I think it’s still goes on and one leading candidate has captured the attention of those who want someone who will “tell it like it is” about “those people.” I’m not saying trump is a racist, but racists sure love them some trump.

                    Got it? I know you don’t because you don’t want to.

                    Find a stream of Dylan’s “a pawn in their game.” Stop. Listen. Learn. He can say it better than I can anyway. But can you really learn something from some liberal Jew with a guitar? Perhaps you’ve got some stats and a theory on that for us.

            • Don in Mar-a-Lago

              “why is violence or misogyny only bad when (likely) Republicans do it?”

              Because nobody classes up violence and misogyny better than Republicans

        • Dog in Fla

          “In defense of ‘old boosters’, of which I am one, we don’t know, hear, or understand the lyrics.”

          All the better to have a translator

  17. Normaltown Mike

    In my college days, I reviewed some contract riders for band parties and I’d say those level of performers (beer joints and frat parties) sincerely wanted/needed the items listed and often they were quite pedestrian (pizza, sub sandwiches, brand new towels, bottled water).

    The best was a handle of Jim Beam for the Dean Dollar Band. They finished it during the performance.

  18. mamatried

    Here’s my question…why does Kirby feel the need to respond to everything? That seems to me to be a trend since he came on board and many of the “scandals” so far would have been no more than footnotes in blog posts if he had simply followed his mentor’s lead.

  19. Brian Davis

    I know I shouldn’t be, but I’m always amazed at the amount of people comfortable parsing and critiquing every word that comes out of the mouths of public figures. Don’t let the fact that you have 1/10th of the context around any of this ever stop you from making firm judgements.

  20. The Ludacris show is just a footnote in a big picture. It’s no different when you open up a news web site and listen to a tribute to Prince. It does not mean you opened the web site (went to Sanford Stadium) for Prince (Ludacris), it’s just he is part of the big news (real show) of the day ( G Day).

    Those people who are making a big deal of Ludacris’ contract, is just trying to knock of Georgia in its current pedestal (SEC record breaking attendance in a Spring Game), and trying to troll Georgia fans. I’m sure all people who were there came to see the New Era Georgia football, and the Ludacris show was just a fine space filler. The fans would have arrived even if the space filler would have been a film “I Love Lucy”, LOL.

  21. I thought the whole thing was excellent. I didn’t understand a damn word from Ludacris, but it really helped get the crowd fired up. I’m really old school rap with Run DMC, Grandmaster Flash, etc. as a fan. The pictures of him with the G on didn’t hurt either.

  22. AntiJorts

    Is Claude Felton in the same building as Kirby and Greg? You’d think he would have some input….

  23. Dylan Dreyer's Booty

    “Mockery aside, this is what the change in the Open Records law is really about.”
    And this is why I don’t care about the law: because the media isn’t using it for something important; instead we get a lot of drivel about a box of rubbers that wouldn’t be news at all 90 days hence. And before you say “Well, what if it was something important?” All I will say is that in my memory important things as far as the AD activities are concerned have to do with injuries, arrests and coaching matters that find their way to the fore without getting records. There was no open record request needed to find out about red panties and DUIs. And you don’t need an open records request to know that ADGM ain’t the sharpest knife in the drawer.

    • There was no open record request needed to find out about red panties and DUIs.

      That’s because arrests are a matter of public record. Are you suggesting that’s where the line should be drawn?

      • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

        I am saying if it is important there is another source. So, yes, I guess so. Tell me about an important story that broke because of open record request to the athletics department as opposed to some other agency that is not involved in the recent amendment to the statute which applies only to the athletics department. I get that the principle annoys you, but I can’t even imagine any real damage. The Ludacris story might not not have broken without it, but I don’t watch Maury Povich or shows like it and I fail to see any loss we will experience once the amendment kicks in.

        • What you think is important and what others think is important probably isn’t the same thing. It isn’t the job of the media to make that determination, either. It’s their job to report the news – all of it – and leave it for you and me to decide what’s important.

  24. Tim In Sav

    No we’re suggesting that a bunch of ya’ll are making a mountain out of a molehill.

  25. Mike Cooley

    I’m about the last one to think anything about Ludacris is cool. But I can not understand how this is a scandal. Having rubbers as part of his rider seems kind of silly but I don’t understand how this is a controversy.

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