Observations from lower Earth orbit, Geaux Tigahs edition

“They just did the right things at the right times,” LeCounte said. —  The Red and Black, 10/14/18

It turns out there are only so many bullets one team can dodge.

Georgia’s Year of Living Dangerously, of showing up not bringing its A game, finally caught up with the Dawgs Saturday.  The team that’s tried to out-talent its way through the schedule met its match in a motivated LSU squad that played an elite game on defense, was consistent on special teams and conservative on offense in the best sense of the word, willing to take what Georgia would give it.

As it turned out, Georgia’s defense was willing to give it quite a lot.

I know that the general consensus is that Georgia’s defense front got out muscled by the LSU offensive line, but from my vantage point (as the header indicates, we sat up high, but had a good view from there of watching plays develop), it was a lot more complicated than that.  What I saw was a d-line that was inconsistent in gap control and containment, on-and-off flow to the play by the inside linebackers and some bad tackling at every level.

But it wasn’t an every play thing.  Georgia’s defense had its share of wins — several sacks, traction through the first three quarters of forcing LSU to settle for field goals, holding Joe Burrow’s completion percentage to 50% — but it wasn’t enough, not nearly enough, because the defense couldn’t maintain any consistency, and every time there was a slip, LSU was prepared to take advantage.

Two examples of that:  the busted coverage that allowed Burrow to complete a long pass down the right side to a wide open receiver (the bust was so spectacularly bad that the home crowd was cheering the play almost before the ball was thrown) and Brenton Cox’ failure to hold contain on the right side of the line allowing Burrow, who read it, to break a big run late in the game to seal it.

As inconsistent as the play on defense was and as poor as the offense played, the team still had a pulse at the start of the fourth quarter, down 19-9.  After the offense scored its first touchdown of the day, the defense forced a three-and-out at the LSU 28 and Hardman produced the special teams’ only bright spot of the day, a big punt return that brought the ball back inside LSU territory.

Georgia had momentum you could feel and promptly frittered it away with a jet sweep LSU had seen coming all game and stopped for nothing, a modest run and a sack of Fromm that produced a punt.

In response, LSU went 86 yards on six plays for a touchdown.  Turns out that was all she wrote.

I’ve seen it all year.  This team is too complacent with its talent level.  The only sense of urgency I saw in Baton Rouge came from the home team, which channeled it into outplaying Georgia all game long.  Will that be a wake up call for a team that’s been, well… sleepwalking through much of the first seven games?

Bullet points ain’t pretty, both because there aren’t very many players deserving of praise — and certainly no coaches who were praise-worthy — and because it was hard to track everyone from where I was sitting and LSU didn’t do the greatest job on the replay front.

  • Speaking of LSU, let me go on record as saying somebody’s been getting a bad rap.  Every Tiger fan I ran into before and after the game was as friendly and good-humored as could be.  That’s a lot more than I can say for some other fan bases I won’t mention.  Tailgating was a complete pleasure; free (!) parking in a grassy, shady lot came close to blowing my fuzzy little mind.  Even more shocking, the local cops disbursing the post-game traffic displayed a common sense that I could only envy.  Well played, folks.  It’s a shame we won’t be back for another dozen years to enjoy your hospitality.
  • I’m still not sure why people keep throwing Deandre Baker’s way.
  • I don’t know if he led the team in tackling, but I heard Tyson Campbell’s name called way too many times after a play was over.  And, no, it wasn’t simply because he was getting picked on in the passing game.
  • I didn’t see which safety blew the coverage on that wide open pass play, but, jeez, guys, that was bad.
  • Another example of on again-off again defensive play:  pretty good on third-down conversions, but allowed LSU to convert all four of its fourth down plays.
  • The one halftime adjustment on defense that I saw work, preventing Burrow from hurting them with the run, was, of course, completely undone by Cox late.
  • The offense was a mess, largely due to two reasons.  One, the game plan was ineffective.  LSU elected to play six men in the box in response to Georgia’s spread formations.  It was an invitation to run the ball, and, indeed, when, the offense acted on that, it moved the ball much of the day.  Both Swift and Holyfield were effective on the ground.  For some reason, though, Georgia wouldn’t stick with the ground game.
  • The quarterback rotation isn’t doing anyone any favors.  Nobody believes Fromm is going to keep the ball on the read option and nobody believes Fields is going to throw the ball when he’s stuck in the game for a play or two here and there.
  • The second reason the offense was a mess was because Fromm was frustratingly inconsistent.  Missing an open Hardman for a touchdown on the first series was brutal and nicely book-ended by a late pass on the flea flicker to Robertson.  Had that pass been on time and on the money, it’s a score; instead it was an incompletion because the receiver couldn’t corral a poorly thrown ball before going out-of-bounds.  Jake missed seeing open players regularly — I’m not sure LSU ever covered Swift coming out of the backfield — despite holding the ball way too long on too many occasions.
  • Fromm wasn’t helped by some timely drops on some of the occasions when he did make the right pass, either.
  • The offensive line wasn’t awful, but it wasn’t dominant.  I thought Andrew Thomas played his worst game of the season, which didn’t help.  Blitz protection by the line was probably the weakest part of their game; fortunately, they got bailed out for the most part by the running backs doing a great job with blitz pickup.
  • For the first time all season, special teams were a net liability.  Outside of the aforementioned Hardman punt return, the return game was largely non-existent.  Hardman’s fumbled kickoff return was vintage Richt-era “I’ve got to be the hero” decision making.  Camarda appears to be regressing.  Earlier in the season, at least he was booming his punts.  And don’t even get me started on that abortion of a fake field goal.
  • If the play was disappointing, the coaching may have been even worse.  LSU was anything but exotic on offense, but Smart and Tucker had no answers.  Georgia’s defense was frequently out of position when the Tigers went hurry up.  There never appeared to be a sense of urgency in response to it; indeed, Georgia was whistled for an illegal substitution penalty trying to substitute on a play when LSU didn’t.
  • Cheney was too cute by half.  I know he was trying to find a work around for a sputtering quarterback, but whatever he thought he had, it wasn’t the right thing.  I doubt Holyfield and Swift had 30 carries between them and that’s not what the day called for.
  • As far as Kirby goes, I have no idea what he was thinking going in.  For Mr. Impose Your Will to resort to trick plays in a game where LSU made it clear early on it was throwing punches and would keep doing so and to allow Chaney’s impatience with the running game to fester was strange, to say the least.  Shockingly, his was the team that lost its confidence in the second half.

I’m of two minds afterwards.  Yes, it was just one game and it would be silly to make any grand pronouncements now.  (That existential post is going to have to wait, peeps.)

That being said, I’m not ready to see this as analogous to what happened at Auburn last year, although I heard Kirby give a nod in that direction after the game.  Unlike this season, Georgia did play some dominant games before the 2017 loss.  We still have no idea if this is a team that can play a solid sixty-minute game and that gives me some concern, to put it mildly.

The bye week couldn’t come at a better time.  The coaches need to do some serious self-scouting.  LSU looked well-prepared for what Georgia threw at it.  The rest of what needs to come is some self-awareness about how far talent alone can take you.

They’d better figure the lesson out quickly.  Lose in two weeks at Jacksonville and all that “our goals are still in front of us” talk goes up in smoke.

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  1. gastr1

    Per TV replay, it appeared that Tyson Campbell should have taken the wideout in motion on the busted pass play, and JR Reed should have made it abundantly clear it was Campbell’s responsibility.

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  2. Silver Britches

    I just didn’t understand what Chaney was trying to do. The run-pass ratio was totally inverted for the entire game. That one drive in the 1st half where we ran down their throat was a perfect time to mix in some play action, but they didn’t. Too many 3 and outs with 3 incomplete passes. Just totally puzzled.

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    • gastr1

      I wonder how much of that was Fromm electing to pass out of an RPO instead of run.

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    • Bulldog Joe

      I call this the Occam’s Razor game.

      Simplest solution is most often the best. LSU simplified the playbook to line up quickly.

      Kirby and Tucker like to do down-and-distance substitutions and LSU took that away from them. It worked like it did in Auburn last year.

      On offense, executing a complex pass attack requires a great deal of communication and it does not translate well from a home game to a road game. Never let a team vulnerable to the run off the hook.

      Coaching a seven point favorite in the first quarter of a midseason game does not include risking your best scorer to injury trying to outrun three uncovered athletes on a special teams play. They were fortunate the outcome wasn’t worse.

      There will be a time when getting creative will be necessary. Last Saturday was not that time.

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      • Ben

        It’s like everyone on the staff panicked.

        Take the three points, and tie it up.

        Chaney abandoning the run was simply unthinkable, too. At one point, Fromm had 7 incompletions in a row on 7 straight passing plays.

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  3. Rebar

    Maybe it is time for Holyfield and Swift to ask to meet with Chaney like Sonny & Nick did last year. Someone has to explain to me why we went away from our ground game that was moving the ball with ease to having Fromm throw the ball not all that accurately.

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  4. gastr1

    Re: Fromm, I’m really concerned about his play. I know we should have run the ball more, yes, we should have, and how we are a team of “imposing our will” that also just decides to abandon a successful run game, I don’t know. But it shouldn’t have mattered. Fromm’s lack of composure, lack of field vision, and holding the ball when he should have thrown it away or just run with it…he looks like he simply doesn’t have the tools to run a full-scope offense at this level.

    Harsh, I know, but I expected him to be better, and I suspect everyone else here did too.

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    • Russ

      Someone mentioned that Fromm played better last year as the hunter. Now he’s the hunted and it seems like he’s grown timid. If there’s anything positive he can take from that fiasco on Saturday, he should now be absolutely certain that the coaches won’t take him out, no matter how badly he plays.

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      • TN Dawg

        What does that say to Fields, though?

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      • Dolly Llama

        I think the best we can hope for is that they let Fromm play the first half of the Florida game. If he plays well, well, chalk it up to a shitty day and keep on keeping on. If he still looks like shit, they put Fields in for the second half and leave him there – and actually let him air it out.

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        • Paul

          Dolly, I thought Fields should have played at least the entire fourth quarter in Baton Rouge and perhaps the entire second half. Unfortunately, I think what we saw Saturday is that this staff will not give Fields meaningful playing time no matter how poorly Fromm plays.

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      • Codie Alan

        That’s a damn true statement there!

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  5. Tronan

    It was obvious from the get-go that Fromm was off. Why the coaching staff didn’t adjust accordingly – and in fact did the opposite by going away from the run – is baffling. LSU is a good team that played a good game but we did everything we could to make it easier for them to win.

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    • atlasshrugged55

      This coaching staff has severe limitations when it comes to in-game adjustments. I don’t know if it’s being too stubborn or if it’s lacking the ability to think during the heat of battle. W/ all the resources provided to Kirby, he should be prepared & able to adjust for anything the opponents do but that’s not the case

      Unless we have a clearly superior edge in talent & the opponent does exactly what we planned for we’re toast. This staff is playing checkers while the opponents are playing chess.

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      • D as in Dawg

        I agree. CKS operates under the assumption they can impose their will. When we can’t, we’re in trouble.

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      • jrod1229

        That is the lamest of arguments. Kirby has shown every single game (less two; both losses) that he can make adjustments. How do you explain completely destorying Oklahoma? Or every other team in the third quarter, again less two losses?

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        • willypmd

          I don’t get the whole this coaching staff can’t coach meme that seems to have popped up.

          They had a shit game against a top 10 team on the road. It cost us our margin of error and some pride and the game plan was not helped by player execution.

          Team needs to get healthy and get better.

          Also color me shocked that our freshman DB is missing assignments, our depleted OL/DL didn’t dominate a top 10 team, and that our sophomore QB isn’t perfect.

          We had a chance to make it a game in the 4th quarter and didn’t execute. These games happen, maybe not to 2018 Bama, but to just about every other team in college football history including some really good teams.

          We get beat like that in Jacksonville and I’ll concede the point, but until that time: we have a bye week and every goal ahead of us. I’ll save the panic for another day.

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          • artful codger

            I agree … other than why we abandon the run remains a puzzle to me … and I think Cheney is where that responsibility belongs. The buck stops with head coach, of course. Holyfield looked like Ironhead Heyward out there and only getting 7-8 carries is a huge failure.

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      • Ben

        Sounds familiar to the guy we fired a few years ago.

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  6. Starbreaker

    Where this game reminds me of last year’s AU game is that early on things looked like they could click well, but then the offense just sort of bumbled around and the next thing you know the defense is on the field A LOT and the game gets away from us. With the way we were running the ball on that one possession, I assumed Kirby did the trick play because he felt confident that we could keep “imposing thy will” but then, head-scratchingly, we throw three passes for a three and out on the next possession and the Dawgs looked scattered and chaotic the rest of the game. Really frustrating to watch, to say the least.

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    • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

      I see that and agree. The Senator said we had some dominant games before Auburn, and I am not sure that’s all that true. Yes, we beat ND, but I wouldn’t call it dominant – and the only team I can recall being decent that we did dominate was MSU. So maybe it is like Auburn; at least, I hope so. But more than anything a lot of us thought that we would lose a game this year and based on recent play by us, by LSU and by other teams (aside from KY) this looked like the time we might have trouble. We did. Hopefully, we’ll know more about what kind of team we have by the last Sunday in October.

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      • Mark

        “Hopefully, we’ll know more about what kind of team we have by the last Sunday in October.”

        I think we know now. It’s a young, inconsistent, and sometimes (but not always) poorly coached one.

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      • OldDawg55

        Agree with what you said, but…lose to Florida (who beat LSU!) and we’ll know what kind of coaching staff we really have. Where was plan B??

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    • willypmd

      Anybody think we are missing Ben Cleveland more than we thought.

      He seemed to spark the OL turn around last year after the first AU debacle, and we’ve seemed to have missed him this year as well.

      I’m sure there are multiple explanations for that game, but I also think we weren’t that far away from making it a game.

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  7. TN Dawg

    Excellent round up.

    I wouldn’t be too hard on Hardman on the kickoff return. Honestly, anybody watching the game at that point had to have been thinking the same thing Mecole was. The idea of lining up for an efficient, error-free 75 yard march down the field was preposterous, given the days previous unfoldings.

    I thought Holyfield, Swift, Gailliard, Walker, Baker and LeCounte all had good games.

    *I thought coaches had a horrible day, and Fromm even worse.
    *Troubling that WRs can’t beat press coverage.
    *Prepared teams have caught on to the back shoulder, jump ball game.
    *Fromm holds the ball too long in high pressure moments.

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    • gastr1

      Problem with the back shoulder thing is that we don’t have Javon Wims. To me this is where Fromm is really hurting– he doesn’t have that one play or receiver that he can count on will work or be open. His coordination/trust with the WRs isn’t great.

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      • Russ

        Fromm threw a great back shoulder throw to Robertson. The only problem, Robertson was running wide open down the sideline. A good throw gives us 6 there.

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        • gastr1

          There’s no doubt that back-shoulder throws require real connectedness between the qb and wrs. That’s part of my point. It’s not there (yet). Hopefully it will be (it better be) soon.

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          • Russ

            Yeah, I was just being a smartass.

            I do think Ridley could be the go to for that back shoulder throw, but Fromm doesn’t seem to even throw it this year.

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            • OldDawg55

              Realize the front line of receivers are talented but what good does it do to have the 6’4″/6’6″ receivers on the bench in many situations…is anyone developing them. Maybe we should have shopped around to see if Hines Ward was available when looking for a WR coach????

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          • Macallanlover

            And that lack of a connection could be splitting too many reps in practices, and the rapid turnover of receivers during the game. Wims was always there, neither Godwin or Ridley is available on a regular basis from what I have seen. Yes, some of that is injuries. But the continuity is not there.

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    • Dawg in Austin

      I like LeCounte, but his whiff on the RB coming up the middle gave up the long TD run, so I wouldn’t give him a good grade.

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      • The Truth

        And his getting undressed by Burrow on the long option run was pitiful, too. Oh well, he didn’t need that jockstrap anyway.

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  8. Russ

    While the defense certainly had some issues, any semblance of and offense wins this game. We were down 10 (should have been 9 except for another stupid decision) with plenty of time to keep feeding Holyfield.

    But this game was lost by the coaches. Our Jimmy and Joe’s weren’t enough to overcome our X’s and O’s. Kirby was outcoached. By Ed. Fricking. Orgeron.

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  9. Bill Glennon

    The defensive backs have trouble playing assignment football. It’s easy to blame Campbell, but Reed always seems to be in the middle of the busts (MO last year).

    The DEs don’t hold the edge. Ledbetter included.

    The ILBs and interior DL is just not physical enough.

    Regarding physicality, Kirby keeps repeating that its UGA’s identity to be physical on the DL and that we are a physical front 7. His repeating it dosen’t make it so. It reminds me of the mantra for the 2016 OL. He needs to start scheming to the defense he does have instead of stubbornly gameplanning for the personnel he wishes he had.

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    • D as in Dawg

      He didn’t change in 2016 and he isn’t changing this year.

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    • Argondawg

      Our ILB play is not SEC caliber. Juwan Taylor spent the day getting swallowed up. Look at the tackles breakdown. Tae Crowder is the first ILB on the list and our fourth leading tackler of the day? How the hell is that even possible when the defense that we run is supposedly designed to funnel to the ILBs. The linebackers are not there. They kept getting second level blown up or they were completely out of place. Man we miss Roquan but we may miss John Atkins just as much.

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      • BassCatSC

        Agreed. Last year we were physical enough in our defensive front 7 to make teams become one dimensional. Not there this year and after 7 games I don’t see it happening this year. This was evidenced this weekend by LSU not hesitating to go for it 4 times on 4th down and being successful each time. About the only thing we can stop on defense this year is any pass targeting #18 Baker.
        For some unknown reason we decided to become one dimensional on offense (LSU didn’t force us) with a quarterback who wasn’t having his best day. Coach O says “thank you”.

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    • Macallanlover

      Have seen a number of times our defense is still discussing the alignments/assignments as the offense is up to the line ready to play. Looks almost Grantham-esque to me. Not often, but didn’t see this last year.

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  10. Jim

    It was a complete and total team meltdown. Players and staff. And somehow it was still a winnable game in the 4th quarter right up until it wasn’t.

    I told my wife it looked like 2016 with more talented players

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  11. Doug

    Holyfield and Swift got 19 carries combined—combined!—despite averaging nearly 7 yards per run.

    For the first time all year, we called more runs than passes, despite our starting QB having the worst game of his UGA career.

    “But we were playing from behind” isn’t an excuse, either. Down 10 points with a whole quarter to go doesn’t automatically call for panic mode. Certainly not when your RBs are continuing to gash the defense while your QB still can’t hit the broad side of a barn.

    I haven’t descended into the where-is-this-program-headed shame spiral I’ve seen a lot of Dawg fans fall victim to, not after one loss. But good lord almighty, that was an atrocity of an offensive game plan. If it wouldn’t violate NCAA rules, I’d be telling Cheney to buy Holyfield and Swift (and Cook) flowers and chocolates to try and apologize.

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    • Dan

      That drive before the horrible fake punt was a thing of beauty up until it wasn’t. Holyfield flattened the same safety twice.

      Anyone could see that we could run the ball successfully. Had we kept at it, I bet our D would have had more gas and our receivers would have been more open and we would have built a lead.

      What a shame.

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      • Russ

        Exactly. Run the damned ball, Bobo!

        The only guy that could stop Holyfield was Chaney. And he did, just like he shut down Chubb and Michel in 2016.

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      • Raleighwood Dawg

        Danielson was comparing 13 to Herschel running over players. So baffling to me why the “impose our will” Coach wouldn’t utilize Holyfield & Swift more when they were obviously working.

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  12. TXBaller

    Friendly Tiger fans….
    1) In general, yes they were in the stands.
    2) LSU player down on field – UGA started a GEORGIA….BULLDOG chant from the corner…..LSU student section responded with FUCK YOU JOR – GA
    3) If I heard their famous SUCK a TIGER DICK chant once, I heard it ten times!
    They are still coon asses……and the stadium is a shit hole.

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    • They are astoundingly proud of the “suck that tiger dick, bitch” thing. The school forced the band to stop playing Neck because of it, yet the students did the chant anyway to a different song. Each fan base has people that are shameful (UGA has baseball players spewing epithets, for example), but it feels very tasteless and unnecessarily crude and another reason attendance at football games will continue to decline. People suck, and the more you have to be around people in those settings with limitless ability to be disgusting, the more the generational football families will choose to do something else with their time and money.

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      • Sheriff Buford T. Justice

        Yes, they are indeed quite proud of that chant. I was surprised at the sheer number of fans who embraced that and were upset about “Neck” not being played.

        We sat with some LSU season ticket holders (who were incredibly nice and pleasant to sit with), one of whom had young children. When the students started the chant, the Dad was not pleased his kids had to hear that. My sister, who marched in Redcoats and loves her some marching band, proceeded to lean over and tell me to “suck that tiger dick, bitch” while Dad and I were having our discussion. What an impression we made, I’m sure.

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        • 79Dawg

          Yeah, we were a section over from the students, and the LSU guy next to me put his hands over his 8 YO (or so’s) ears when they started it.
          I think comparing a single baseball players yelling something, to 10/15,000 students all singing along, is not quite an apt comparison…

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    • willypmd

      I was definitely surprised at how much the stadium experience sucked.

      Screens were undersized, play clocks were hard to find, stats weren’t shown anywhere, and they refused to show replays on the screens. Not to mention TV timeouts every 8 seconds!

      Fans were fine; about typical for an away SEC venue.

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      • Jack Klompus

        You’re right about all of that. Fans were fine. All of the stadium experience was terrible. Didn’t understand the no replays at all. We also had a terrible time getting in with the metal detectors. Eventually, they stopped using them and let everyone go through unchecked.

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      • I mentioned the same thing to the LSU friends we tailgated with- shithole stadium, terrible boards, everything you mentioned. The LSU fan from the Bronx that sat next to me hadn’t showered in a month, but had to explain SEC football to me- which is kinda surprising since I picked up the game in 1972, attended UGA beginning in 1980, and have had 4 season tickets since 1985. What a bunch of classless clowns. The chants repeated with pride by the 3 kids directly in front of me while Dad beamed was the icing on the cake.

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        • 79Dawg

          Granted, it may have been different if the game had been at night, but I didn’t particularly find it any worse/more intimidating than Neyland, Williams-Brice or Jordan-Hare…

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  13. D as in Dawg

    I just hope this team doesn’t get away from him. I agree with all the talk about identity. I don’t know what this team is except for a wealth of possibilities.

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    • D as in Dawg

      Sorry. Didn’t finish. I’ve just had this view of CKS as in total control and I hope the UF game shows he hasn’t lost control.

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    • Uglydawg

      “I don’t know what this team is except for a wealth of possibilities.”
      Well said, D.

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      • Macallanlover

        I fear the “wealth of possibilities” may be our greatest weakness as we are almost spreading it around too much. Too many floating pieces, mostly on offense, to ever know who the personnel will be for the guys playing next to them. That is worst among the RBs and WRs, but also at LB and DBs, from what I see. It has hurt on the OL too, but much of that is due to injury, although we did continue to try different combos of OL in the early games before Cleveland and Thomas were hurt. Find some players and make a decision, stick with it as much as you can. Almost like we are feeding egos. And, I am not a fan of the one play in QB bit we are trying. Maybe occasionally, but if you are going to work Fields in, do it for at least a series, or for an entire drive.

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        • Raleighwood Dawg

          Good points, Mac. As you said, I think it appears that the “too many cooks spoil the soup” saying may apply to us. I agree with you that we need to establish some defined pecking order/identities/continuity so everyone knows who is playing where. Someone else said in another post to name the starters and then challenge the others to take their spot. I suppose the stroking of egos is something that has to be done, but if it’s affecting the performance/outcome of the games, better think long and hard if it’s truly worth it.

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        • OldDawg55

          You’re right on the QB situation. However, you don’t recruit a wealth of five stars to let them sit on the bench. Game experience for all is a plus but it’s how you present it to the players in practice and film rooms..let them sense that their replacements are a multiplier effect not just random.

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  14. TXBaller

    Why Campbell and no Stokes??

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  15. Austin

    Can we please hire Bobo back?

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    • D as in Dawg

      Lol. I do think Cheney is hit or miss. He’s going to miss from time to time. I do wonder if the qb coach change isn’t playing a factor in Fromm’s regression.

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    • 202dawg

      At this point I am more worries about figuring if Coley is the problem or Cheney. Coley obviously hasn’t helped Fromm. Bobo needs to get healthy, and not sure Pittman would work with him. We lost Pittman and it’s back to 2 and 3 * ‘project’ OL…

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  16. DawgFlan

    Senator, thank you for the post. Couldn’t have been fun. The QB play and run/pass ratio is what disappointed me the most. Yes the defense was inconsistent, but we expected that with youth and replacing R that would be the case coming into the year. They still held LSU to 19 points into the 4th, which should have been more than enough given the expectations for our offense, but our QB and OC were taking turns making each other look bad. Speaking of looking bad, the HC and that terrible fake FG call…

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  17. dawgfan

    Some simple advice from the armchair to CKS; Stop playing musical chairs with the quarterbacks. If one gets pissed and leaves, so be it. Go recruit some depth. Don’t give up on your run game in the first half when you’re only 10 points down. Running the ball is who you are. Get it together on special teams. 30 yd punts and telegraphed fake field goals aren’t going to cut it from here on out. Get those 3 d lineman that didn’t make the trip healthy, fast. When the other team gets an obvious break on a yardage placement, don’t hesitate to call TO when you are sitting on 3 TOs. Get a refresher on what “bloody Tuesday” really means from coach Dooley and then execute it. Beat Florida.

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  18. The bye week is coming at the right time. This team looked listless and tired all day on Saturday. With a few exceptions, the physical identity we’ve developed didn’t make the trip to Red Stick. When we didn’t impose our will, the composure went out the window. That fake FG was one of the worst calls I’ve seen in my 40+ years of watching Georgia football (I would be saying that if it happened to work as well).

    Oh, and Chaney brought back out his fat pencil last weekend. Poor QB play not withstanding, this was his worst play calling game since Florida 2016.

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    • Russ

      We stopped trying to impose our will. When Holyfield carried several guys into the endzone late in the game, I thought “here we go, we’ve been saving him!” But that was probably his last carry. Just criminal.

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    • Macallanlover

      Not the worst play call at all IF you had scouted it and knew that player was giving up contain, but it did seem to be a very poor time to call it (early in the game, and needing to quieten the crowd by points on the board.) And no, I don’t believe you would have said it had it worked. Not calling you a liar, just don’t believe it. Some would have said it seemed risky but the applause for being gutsy and knowing LSU was vulnerable would have been pretty unanimous.

      I think Kirby was influenced by the number of open receivers and the running game success he had seen at that point and felt scoring wasn’t going to be the issue. Turned out to be a major downturn that ignited the crowd and made us look desperate.

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      • Uglydawg

        Your last paragaraph..
        Kirby doesn’t seem to understand that opponents aren’t going to just succumb to Georgia’s richness of talent.

        Star count goes out the window when your opponent is determined..and every week the opponent is going to be strongly and impressively determined.

        A solid game plan and solid execution will be required every game on.

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      • 4th and 9 in the red zone was a terrible time to call it, period.

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        • 92 grad

          And really, hot rod needed to cover 12 yards? He didn’t get the ball at the LOS. Poor kid had to run a long way.

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          • Macallanlover

            We had a blocker on one LSU defender, the problem was the other sucker, just one, didn’t rush and made the play. Don’t know what their scouting showed but if LSU hadn’t been selling out, e just caught a terrible break. Still doesn’t mean it was a good time for it, but it would have worked. Take the points…unless you felt they would be plentiful, and I think we did after what we had seen to that point. Easy to 2nd guess when you look foolish.

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  19. Codie Alan

    I kept waiting for them to show CMR on the sideline. That game was a CMR special of epic proportions. The QB rotation is a joke and everyone knows it. Coley/Chaney co-OC crap is a joke as obviously displayed on Saturday. Jake has regressed this year which is mind-blowing. Jake couldn’t get it done and they bring in Fields for one play and Kirby wants to say they were trying to move the ball? GTFO with that bullshit coach speak. D-line had very little clue if any as to what was going on and I put that on Scott and Kirby. I’m not buying Scott as the D-line coach. Mediocre recruiter and average at best as a D-line coach. Can’t throw against Baker, just look to the other side of the field. I hope that kid grows up fast and he learned a lot from that game. He’s gonna need it going forward!

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    • Jeff Sanchez

      I think after 20 point blowouts three years in a row on the road against a West team you can call it a “CKS special now”

      But keep on bangin’ that chicken….

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      • Macallanlover

        They cain’t hep it. And I think assigning all the blame to either is simplistic. This game almost favored LSU before we got there, we didn’t help with both player and coaching errors.

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      • willypmd

        We keep playing top 10 teams on the road, and we probably are going to get one of these every once in a while until the roster is completely built out.

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  20. Griff

    My observations about Fromm are that he goes through his progressions really quickly and if no one is open he just stands there with no clue what to do. He hardly ever just throws the ball away or moves in the pocket. Taking the sack when we were down 19-9 with a kicker that is pretty much automatic is inexcusable for a 20 game starter. He doesn’t seem to know how to buy time to scan the field (i.e. Godwin was wide open in the end zone on our second drive but he already looked away and never looked back so he essentially threw it away instead moving a little bit). I wonder how much of that is coaching and telling him not to make a mistake.
    Also, we still haven’t won a game against a decent team in a hostile environment under Kirby’s leadership…as a matter of fact we have been dominated in all 3 occasions (OM in 2016, Auburn in 2017 and LSU this week). That is a disturbing trend. Are coaches not getting the team prepared?

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    • Kdawg

      Nice post. I actually feel like Fromm takes too long to go through his progressions that if his last option isn’t open he’s being sacked. He also doesn’t seem to step into the pocket but rather too the side.

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      • gastr1

        Yes, he does move to the side instead of forward like he should, and then he’s not a good passer on the move. The one time he moved forward that was really notable was when he proceeded to thrown the ball behind Swift when he was wide open.

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        • Macallanlover

          That throw surprised me, he was off balance for sure, but someone as athletic as he is should never be that far off the mark, even when being rushed. Maybe the worst pass I have ever seen him throw, A little low, or ahead/behind would have been understandable.

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  21. ASEF

    LSU’s 275 yards rushing was the main culprit. 5.4 a carry. That’s right there with Ole Miss’ legendary 2018 defense allowing them 5.6 and SE La allowing them 5.3 Auburn held them to 2.9.

    Make Burrow beat you throwing, It’s not freaking rocket science, no matter how much money we pay the coaches and wrap execution concepts in exotic jargon and stats.

    And that was the foundation for the game pressure that cracked the decision-making on the sidelines and in the pocket.

    That’s the glaring red flag for me. Stopping the run is foundational to the way Smart builds his roster and program. Not doing it against an average QB running a not-complicated offense, and looking at the Missouri’s rushing effort against Alabama and Georgia respectively….

    I won’t get into the QB situation, but, as Connelly noted in his quick-take game review, a position that should be a strength – two excellent QBs — played out as a liability Saturday afternoon. Not sure how that happens, even against a quality defense like LSU’s.

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    • DawgByte

      Over 100 yards of that came on two plays, including the missed assignment by Cox that Blutarsky enumerated above. If you take away those two plays it’s a bit over 3 yards per carry.

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      • ASEF

        Every team that gives up 250+ rushing can say that. No one does it at exactly 5.5 per 50 times in a row. Why did LSU run it 51 times? Because it was working.

        With Georgia’s recruiting, LSU should not be able to move the ball on the ground with enough consistency for LSU to lean on it. This wasn’t Leonard Fournette and Darius Guice. It was 3 guys who never sniff an NFL roster.

        I am not excusing the offense, but we’re ignoring how vital our lack of run defense was to this loss.

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        • Macallanlover

          True, it was actually the 4th down conversions that hurt more than the two long runs. They also kept the defense on the field. They didn’t add a lot of yards like the long run but changed the game more, and excited the LSU team and crowd. As the Senator said, it was a very inconsistent performance by the defense.

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    • Uglydawg

      “The main culprit” wasn’t the defense giving up those yards. The main culprit was the offense not sustaining drives and letting the defense sit down for a minute or two before they were right back on the field.
      Burrow did beat us with his arm, btw.

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      • Russ

        Exactly. We had no answer for the quick, short throws. Even with them running we still had a good shot in the fourth.

        Offense and coaching lost this game.

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      • ASEF

        Burrow was 50% at 6.7 yards per. Take away the coverage bust (which people want to do to excuse the rushing totals), and he’s at 5 yards per attempt. He’s a liability when LSU can’t run the ball.

        LSU’s defense is legit. The side of the ball that Kirby had the clearest advantage was the Georgia D against the LSU O. Kirby wants a program defined by his defense and its ability to render teams one-dimensional. That’s why the whiff stands out to me.

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        • CB

          Swift and Holy field made their defense look not legit.

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          • ASEF

            No argument. But advanced stats have their defense at 13 and their offense at 43. They ran 81 plays to 64, 50 of those in the first half.

            First half drive numbers for LSU: 3, 9, 12, 5, 18, 3.

            That’s a slightly above-average offense owning Smart’s defense in the first half. His trademark. His calling card. Meanwhile, Aranda is a gifted coordinator with a lot of talent at his disposal. It’s not surprising he came in with a plan that disrupted what Chaney likes to do and baited his preferences some.

            What’s surprising is that Kirby and Mel didn’t do the same to Ensminger.

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    • CB

      On the first big run we run blitzed perfectly into the A gap. LeCounte had a free shot at the ball carrier, but he bounced right off and Edwards- Helaire was off to the races. After Cox blew the read on Burrow’s run LeCounte then runs up and completely whiffs the tackle. LeCounte doesn’t wrap up, and he doesn’t run his feet through contact. He ducks his head and tries to hit stick the ball carrier ala Reshad Jones circa 2008.

      Anyway, to your point about stopping the run, we were in position to do so and failed to execute so it wasn’t exactly game planning or scheme. Chalk it up to youth, chalk it up to talent, chalk it up to player development, but we played to make them pass.

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    • artful codger

      Stopping the run is foundational to how he builds the roster, but just not there yet. The roster is young, and those who seem the most promising (on paper at least) are among the youngest. DL may still be two years away minimum, and that’s if Scott can up his game. ILB may be in similar shape. Most of our potential there lies in the true frosh Tindall and Walker. DB will continue to grow and improve.

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  22. DawgByte

    “Jake missed seeing open players regularly — I’m not sure LSU ever covered Swift coming out of the backfield — despite holding the ball way too long on too many occasions.”

    This says a lot for why we lost on Saturday. Not taking advantage of Swift coming out of the backfield is a major cockup for Fromm. For somebody who is suppose to be calm, cool and collected Jake wasn’t anything but that on Saturday. If we have any prayer of winning the East Fromm will have to unrattle himself and our ILB’s will have to play significantly better.

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  23. The first half of this game reminded me of the Alabama/UGA game. Alabama’s QB missed a few open passes and was the clear reason that Alabama’s offense was a mess. They made the change at halftime out of necessity.

    UGA’s back up plan against LSU was to give the struggling QB more passes.

    There might be very good reasons they don’t want to play Fields, but if there are good reasons they’re not doing their starting QB any favors by cutting his snaps in other games.

    If they’re not prepared to play Field when it matters then they should quit playing him accept in garbage time.

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    • Bill Glennon

      Saban calmed his team down, weathered the storm, made adjustments and did not let a first half story become the story of the game.

      Our coaching staff didn’t or couldn’t do that. That is troubling.

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  24. 86BONE

    WOW…can we have a re do?
    Bad Karma all day:
    Team had no hot water
    Spilled mimosa on wife
    Couldn’t locate a Dawg tailgate
    Good news is I totally agree with you, Senator, concerning the LSU fans! They invited me and my wife into a tailgate and we ate the absolute finest gumbo and fried chicken! I offered to pay and all we got were hugs, handshakes and an invitation back!
    Hell I am ready to go to another home game over there!
    As for the game….we definitely had a hitch in our gettyup!

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  25. SCMass

    Agree with lots above.

    (1) On Fromm: Left lots of points on the field. People (rightly) flagged the missed throws. I’d also flag the missed scrambles; a couple of times he had free 15 yd stretches of drive-extending goodness that he didn’t take. Which is strange, because he is decent at juking the first defender that gets through.

    I’m not panicking because a solid game from Fromm flips the outcome of that game. I will panic if this happens again in JVille.

    (2) On Fields: I think CKS/CJC are saying “We are not a very efficient offense. So when we have to have 4 yards on 1st or 2nd to try and keep a drive alive, we’re putting Fields in because we are 95% sure we can run for 4 yards. Then we’ll put Fromm back in and either run for the rest or short pass for the rest.”

    The problem is that we need to figure out how to get more efficient on first down, not this musical chairs thing.

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  26. Uglydawg

    Kudos,Senator!
    That was possibly your finest postmortem report ever.
    Thanks!

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  27. The other Doug

    My 2 cents on Fromm….

    I don’t think he is as far along as we hoped with reads and progressions, and LSU figured it out. They went with a look pre snap that made him decide to throw to a certain receiver. After the snap he isn’t checking down. Instead he is just looking off the safety, and that explains why he never saw open WRs even though he was looking their way. He then looked to his guy and he was often covered and double teamed. The only real check down is to the RB.

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    • The other Doug

      One more thing on Fromm. It was obvious that Fromm was having a terrible day, but Kirby and Channey never pulled him and gave Fields a real shot. They gave Fromm every possible chance to pull it together and win the game, but he didn’t. He has to know that next time it’s going to be Fields chance and if you give an elite QB a chance it’s going to be tough to keep the starting job.

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  28. I want to see Justin Fields under center run the play action game with feeds to Swift / Holyfield coupled with fakes and rollout passes to Nauta with a run option.

    It’s criminal how little Isaac Nauta touches the ball. He is a man amongst boys and a total load to bring to the ground. We’re all going to puke when we watch him in the NFL.

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  29. My takeaways are 1. We are not Bama 2.0. Nobody is and nobody will ever be. We should be excited that we are mostly dominating conference opponents and not lose our collective shit when we occasionally get beat by a good, very talented SEC opponent (although I do expect close losses) 2. Chaney needs to take back the QBs. Not sure what Coley is doing but Fromm has regressed in spots. 3. Kirby seems to be unwilling to change his game plans in order to win today at the sacrifice of expected returns later. We saw this in 2016 with the O-line. We are seeing it this year with the D-line IMHO. I can only expect that it will pay off. That’s all I got.

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    • willypmd

      Saban’s first 3 years at Bama were 33-8 with one SEC championship and one national championship.

      His first 3 years at LSU were 26-12 with one SEC championship.

      Kirby is currently sitting at 27-8 with one SEC championship and one national championship appearance.

      Not sure the post-mortem on the Smart area should be written quite yet.

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  30. Whiskeydawg

    I’m as big a Dawg fan as any, growing up in Athens and going to Georgia, so when I write, getting their ass handed to them on Saturday maybe the best thing that could have happened, I mean that in the nicest way. Overall this is a very talented team with as good a coaching staff as any in the country and I think a defeat like this should spawn a lot of growth and make them stronger. We can still when the East with all indications meeting Bama in the SECC.

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  31. ASEF

    I know this is a post-mortem, but…

    Kirby’s defenses have traditionally owned Mullen’s offenses. I suspect everyone will be feeling a lot better two Mondays from now.

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  32. Geezus

    The fact that Tyson Campbell is starting at corner, makes you wonder what kind of a mess our cornerbacks are (yes, I know he’s a freshman). He can run with anyone, but cannot defend the ball. I’ve seen him burned time and time again all year. I know he’s a five star and may end up a shutdown corner, but damn …….

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    • Jeff Sanchez

      I find it odd too….he’s in position almost every time (busted coverage excepted) but just doesn’t make plays on the ball. Hoping it’s just inexperience.

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  33. Geezus

    …. I almost forgot. LSU blasting us up the middle isn’t anything new. Even Austin Peay was moving on us up the middle. We are missing that John Atkins/Trent Thompson person in the middle and the linebackers are trying to overcompensate.

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  34. Sanford222view

    “The offense was a mess, largely due to two reasons. One, the game plan was ineffective. LSU elected to play six men in the box in response to Georgia’s spread formations. It was an invitation to run the ball, and, indeed, when, the offense acted on that, it moved the ball much of the day. Both Swift and Holyfield were effective on the ground. For some reason, though, Georgia wouldn’t stick with the ground game.”

    THIS!!!!

    and THIS!

    “For Mr. Impose Your Will to resort to trick plays in a game where LSU made it clear early on it was throwing punches and would keep doing so and to allow Chaney’s impatience with the running game to fester was strange, to say the least. ”

    As for the safety you are looking for, that would be Reed but I think he was trying to communicate to Campbell that Tyson had the deep coverage responsibility. Either way, Reed is the veteran who should be making sure the youngster got the call.

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    • Mayor

      I FWIW I think LSU was using the “6 men in the box but walking in a 7th player at the snap” thing that has become popular among SEC DCs. I do agree with you that we should have run the ball more and for goodness’ sake they should have left Holyfield in the game!!

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  35. My takeaways are few. I keep falling back to an old Richt habit, which is hoping that the coaching staff is not too stubborn to acknowledge their own mistakes. A entrenched coaching staff is a sinking ship.

    A buddy of mine called the fake field goal right before it happened. The play had the opposite of its intended effect in more than one way. It looked desperate–like ‘we gotta take chances are we are not going to win!!’ feel to it. And when it didn’t work, it put the players and coaching staff on their heels. I get that you are trying to be aggressive, but don’t tell us you are a ‘impose your will type team’ then pull desperate horse shit calls like that.

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    • gastr1

      Yeah. And if we know it, you know the team knows it. I just can’t believe they thought that was a good idea…we just smashed the ball down their throats to take the momentum and tie the score. The FG would have been fine there.

      What a colossal f-up.

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  36. Wow, so I’m clearly already late to this party.

    My thought: Saturday was a classic case of trying to borrow your way out of debt.

    Fromm was off and jittery early, and Kirby and Chaney kept giving him opportunities to work himself out of it.

    What ended up happening was that we unilaterally stopped running the ball and got into a situation where our margin for error in the second half was nonexistent.

    It was definitely a game where we played poorly, but we also outthought ourselves.

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    • Uglydawg

      They should have made Fromm run it off tackle twice in a row to kill his jitters. This is a serious comment. I’ve seen it work.

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      • You know that doesn’t sound like a half bad idea. Don’t want to see the kid get hurt of course, but lets just shake loose his tentativeness

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      • I don’t disagree. Or, gone no huddle. Anything other than what they were doing. He was thinking too much.

        I’m really starting to think a) he was shook, and b) Aranda really baffled him.

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      • AusDawg85

        There is something to that. I believe I recall he was too jacked during the first series of the National Championship game, but then ran a play and got his uni dirty and suddenly his focus was zeroed in. Has happened in other games as well. Why he stood in the pocket for 5+ seconds rather than take off last Saturday was absolutely mind numbing. Why did he think he had so much time? Why did he not take off? What was in his water bottle?

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  37. AusDawg85

    On the drive to BR Friday, the only way to appease my LSU host was to discuss how the Tigah’s had a chance (snicker!)…for UGA to come out flat on offense with quick 3 and outs (check!), for us to make inexcusable mistakes (meaning turnovers, but Fromm playing poorly and having Hot Rod run a jet sweep counts the same..check!) and to let LSU get up a couple of scores early so that the crowd stays in the game (check and mate!). Yet still, 19 – 9 in the 4th and we’re on the plus side of the 50, the LSU fans in my section were loud but nervous. Here comes Georgia! But no…Fromm makes another inexcusable mistake. Seriously, did the team party on Bourbon St. all night before?

    As for Fields, I can only guess that Kirby did not want to throw a true freshman into such a negative situation. Faith that Fromm’s coolness would prevail. That’s coaching scared and not a good sign.

    One of the worst performances by a Georgia team in years. Surprising, shocking and disappointing. Everybody on the UGA sideline has a lot of soul searching to do this week.

    My LSU host earned his steak dinner.

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  38. CB

    The fake field goal was awful, but had it worked and Blankenship scores on Les Miles old play right it would have been a huge slap in the face to the home team imo. I respect the pageantry, but it blew up in our face.

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    • gastr1

      It was not a risk worth taking in that situation.

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      • CB

        I think we’re making a little too much of it. We still could have easily won the game running away, but it certainly wasn’t a good sign for things to come.

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        • Uglydawg

          Going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that one, CB.
          We are not making too much of it. It was without a doubt the turning point of the game…LSU was not going to ever relinquish the momentum back to Georgia. This kind of a game flows on emotion and momentum and in an atmosphere like Saturday’s that is even more true.
          Georgia had just ran the ball down LSU’s throat. But then got impatient and tried to throw it (in the red zone) and ended up with fourth down. LSU,at that time had to be thinking that Georgia had the mo…but the fake squandered it. LSU, knowing they could go up by two scores and how huge that would be in that crazy, crazy stadium, became relentless in their determination to hold the ball and score. it was the worst thing I’ve seen in a long time. Why in the hell would you gamble like that so early in a football game that you were favored (and knew you had the most talent) in? It was bush league just like the on-side kick against USCe was.

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          • CB

            All I know is, if a failed fake field goal at the beginning of a game condemns us to a loss against an Ed Orgeron coached team then we hired the wrong guy to coach us.

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            • Mayor

              The fake cost us 3 points and allowed LSU to come back the other way and score a TD that got the Tigers a 10 point lead. If was like a fumble in the red zone only worse because it was a conscious decision. If we kick that FG and the extra point after our TD (another bonehead decision-going for 2 in that situation) the score instead of 19-9 is 19-13 in the third quarter. Run the ball on third down and kick the FG later instead of calling a pass play and Fromm getting sacked and out of FG range and the score is 19-16. All those bad decisions came from not taking the points and kicking the FG on that second drive. The fake cost us big time.

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              • CB

                Disagree on the two pt try. Had to go for it down 16, and make it a one possession game, but you’re right on the fake fg. It wouldn’t have been necessary if we had those three points. My point is leaving those three points early didn’t make us play poorly for the rest of the game. We weren’t prepared regardless. I believe this team was capable of winning by double digits either way.

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                • Mayor

                  “It (the 2 point attempt) wouldn’t have been necessary if we had those three points.” YES! EXACTLY!! The fake FG set in motion all the bad things that happened later in the game. I think the game would have been a different game if that fake FG hadn’t been tried and we got 3 points there instead. Stupidest decision I have ever seen a UGA coach make in over 50 years of watching Georgia football and so unnecessary.

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                • CB

                  Eh, I’ve seen squib kicks with far worse consequences. We left 3 points on the board and lost by 20. Like the Senator said, we had the momentum back in our favor in the 4th but the Fromm sack followed by the lack of discipline and poor tackling that allowed Burrow to streak down the sideline ultimately ended the game. None of those things had anything to do with the fake FG. Nor did Chaney abandoning the effective run game. I’ll agree the fake was a bad look, but it’s not why we lost the game.

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          • The Truth

            And I’ve got to respectfully disagree with you. A game that is 19-9 in the 4th can’t have turned on a play in the 1st. I think Kirby wasn’t desperate using the fake; if anything he was overconfident. He didn’t think that one play would define the game. If we had stuck with the run, pulled Fromm to give Fields a chance to spark us, or played better run defense, the fake wouldn’t have mattered a bit.

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  39. CB

    Speaking of LeCounte. He doesn’t tackle or cover. Whiffed on the two biggest runs of the day for LSU.

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    • He has a lot of growing up to do. He wants the attention of being the man, but he isn’t doing anything to earn it. He needs to focus on just doing his job.

      He’s not a piece of shit like Tray Matthews, but the confidence without the results is eerily similar.

      He needs to grow out of this fast.

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      • Dawg in Lutz

        Kirby called LeCounte out during camp. Remember, he said he needed him to focus more and stop making mental mistakes. Guess what? It looks like those mental mistakes are still popping up.

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  40. No Axe to Grind

    Since I do not follow highly recruited high school football prospects until they sign with UGA, like some of you, I have a question. I know that Fields is a running quarterback and good at it, but does he have a commensurate throwing capability as well? If I were calling the plays when Mecole returned the punt to the 35, I would have put Fields in and let him show what he could do, both running and passing as well. Just curious.

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  41. Like you, I don’t keep informed on the recruiting game, but what little I’ve read or gathered from commentators indicates he throws LIGHTNING BOLTS. And apparently they are accurate. I believe even CKS has explained that the coaches view Fields as a total package, not just some updated version of Tebow.

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    • gastr1

      Has anyone been watching Patrick Mahomes play? Dude is on another planet. Never seen anyone throw on the run like he does. Threw one 40 yards downfield last night while backpedaling.

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  42. Ben

    By the end of the first quarter, I was sure we weren’t gonna take this one. It’s the calmest and most relaxed I’ve been during a loss in years.

    I hate saying this, but this team needed to take a loss. They don’t have the leadership of last year’s squad, and it looks like, after only one run to the playoffs, they thought they could roll their hats out there and win.

    If these guys play like trash and get routed by Grantham, Mullen, and Co next time, we can panic.

    We knew this wasn’t a championship team this year, but we hoped it might be. It’s not, so that takes some pressure and worry off of me as a fan. And at least we aren’t saddled (yet) with a staff with a massive buy-out.

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    • Uglydawg

      Good thoughts, Ben. I also saw early how the game was going to go. And it made it a the loss a little gentler.
      I still hope to win the East.

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    • Gurkha Dawg

      Come on Ben. I had a bad feeling too, but when we were down 19-9 early in the fourth quarter and Mecole returned the punt into LSU territory, things were looking up. I was thinking: “we probably don’t deserve to win, but if we score here we’re going to win this damn game”. Things didn’t turn out that way but shit man, ya gotta believe.

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    • 92 grad

      Agreed. It was pretty easy to see how the game was going to play out. I’ve stated from the beginning of the season that our guys appear to be in a pattern where they all wow each other in practices, tell each other how awesome they are, and go away thinking they’re unstoppable. Hoping this game was a wake up call, for the coaches too.

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  43. Bulldog Joe

    From a fan perspective, it’s great to combine the quality of a New Orleans Friday night with the LSU tailgate experience. Win or lose, the game experience is also memorable.

    But day games pose a challenge.

    From a charm and efficiency perspective, Baton Rouge is basically Jackson Mississippi with oil refineries. Driving or not, getting from New Orleans or anywhere to the game is a pain in the ass.

    Pregame traffic control and getting in the stadium to your seat is by far the worst cluster in the SEC. You have to leave much earlier to tailgate and get to to your seat than you do in Athens.

    This year’s experience confirmed LSU fans over 30 are the best in the conference and for the most part, those under 30 rival Florida for the worst. Connecting with an over 30 tailgate ahead of time is the best play. Early in the game, the LSU people were pissed so many of their fans sold their tickets, but they got over it once Georgia stopped running the football.

    Next time, I’m pulling for a night game with a designated driver.

    Go Dawgs.

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  44. gastr1

    Yesterday I was bowling and I rolled a damn gutterball right after a strike. Thought to myself, “I knew I shouldn’t have tried that stupid fake FG.”

    Does it make the lexicon? Something about out-Kirbying oneself?

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    • AusDawg85

      You’re on to something here. “Hot Rodding”? When you sacrifice your kicker on a meaningless fake on 4th and 9.

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  45. W Cobb Dawg

    I’m not faulting the D for the loss. They got no help from the O, and little help from the STs. BUT other than Rice we don’t have an ILB that can consistently make tackles. Ditch Taylor now and get some work for Tindall and Q. Walker, maybe McBride. Find another ILB who can tackle OR play Rice every snap until he falls over from exhaustion.

    Any big game where Holyfield and Swift get fewer than 20 carries combined is a crime. I seriously question why Kirby would want an OC who makes such a huge mistake on the staff. There’s just no excuse.

    And the mass substituting is hurting, not helping, us. We never get in rhythm.

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  46. tbia

    I am tired of chopping wood. Sometimes you have to get out the chainsaw and get that son of a bitch down quickly.

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  47. Ozam

    Chaney should keep a picture of Chubb and Michel on his desk lest he forget this meeting which ultimately led to last year national championship game.

    https://www.dawgnation.com/football/chubb-and-michel-met-with-chaney-about-running-concerns

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  48. Russ

    A little levity.

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  49. Jack Klompus

    So, when do we talk about the QB Coach and our QBs regression?

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    • 69Dawg

      Well if it’s not the coach the Sophomore Slump is alive and well for Jake.

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      • Macallanlover

        Might be an early call, lots going on here besides just one position, and stats don’t indicate he has sucked. There are few first 21 game accomplishments that match Jake Fromm’s. Doesn’t mean I don’t want him to light up FU in two weeks, but we should be careful about complaining about this kid.

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  50. 69Dawg

    From my location an hour south of Hog Town I can tell you the Gayturds think they have returned to glory. Openly saying that despite the loss to Kentucky they are in a great position to win the East. They are counting on beating us, because they know the short version of our Jax screw ups. Then they are counting on us to beat UK. Lets face it with Alabama waiting in the wings we all are just playing to see who gets beat like a rented mule.

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    • Macallanlover

      I will worry about each one in gue time, but Kentucky is a lot scarier than the Gators…and it isn’t close.

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  51. Hal Welch

    Swift and Holyfield carried it 18 times combined, it was almost like Florida two years ago. I was frustrated with several things but the loss is squarely on Jim Chaney, period. The game was not out of hand and he had long since aborted tv’s run game as it was averaging 7+ per carry. It was negligence of duty. Each year he turns in a game like this. Florida year over, auburn year two, and now lsu. Not good at all. They need to either play fields from here on our not play him at all. But either way they have fucked up Fromm’s game. He had zero confidence in his team Saturday.

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  52. artful codger

    All I can figure is “impose our will” also includes to prove we can pass even when the pass is not there. I thought it meant motograde the trenches and prove we can run. So I guess IOW means to prove we can do what we want when we want., even when attempting to do so is not prudent.

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