Dawg fans, you won’t have Jim Chaney to kick around anymore, it seems.
Tennessee is turning to a familiar face to become its new offensive coordinator.
Sources close to the situation told GoVols247 on Tuesday night that Georgia’s Jim Chaney is expected to be named the new offensive coordinator for the Vols and barring unforeseen circumstances will join Jeremy Pruitt‘s staff.
An official announcement could come as early as Wednesday.
Chaney previously coached at Tennessee for four years under Lane Kiffin and Derek Dooley and has overseen prolific offenses for the Bulldogs the past two seasons, and plucking him away from an SEC East rival is a major coup for Pruitt and a Tennessee offense that mustered 17 points or less in five games in 2018.
The Vols have been in the market for a new offensive coordinator since two days after the season-ending loss to Vanderbilt when Tyson Helton left Tennessee to become the new head coach at Western Kentucky.
Tennessee’s coach, coming off a 5-7 debut season, has been thorough in the process of researching coaches and has spoken with multiple candidates and coaches since Helton’s departure. Pruitt knew the importance of this hire and wanted to make sure he made the right decision. And he will feel he’s made the right decision in Chaney, an experienced play-caller who’s overseen prolific offenses at multiple college stops and a proven develop of quarterbacks at the collegiate level.
Chaney’s salary was $950,000 in 2018, according to the USA Today database for assistant coaches. His contract at Georgia reportedly ran through the 2020 season, and it’s unclear what the Vols will have to pay in terms of a buyout. Tennessee paid Helton $1.2 million this season.
And here is where things start getting interesting. First of all, Chaney’s contract status at Georgia appears to be a bit murky. Per Marc Weiszer,
There had been speculation about Chaney and Tennessee in the days since Georgia’s 28-21 Sugar Bowl loss to Texas on Jan. 1.
So much so that the length of Chaney’s contract—which was to run out before next season—came into focus. A Georgia spokesman said Monday that Chaney was thought to have two years still left, but there was no word from the school when asked exactly when Georgia and Chaney had extended their deal. Georgia via an open records request disclosed in December that quarterbacks coach James Coley and running backs coach Dell McGee were completing the first year of a three-year contract but there was no similar deal released on Chaney.
Extension or not, it appears the move is monetarily driven.
The cost of running a championship caliber program at Georgia could be going up with offensive coordinator Jim Chaney expected to finalize a lucrative offer to take the same role at Tennessee.
Sources say Chaney has negotiated a deal with the Vols worth between $4.5 and $5 million over three years — a significant raise from the contract he has had in place that paid him $950,000 annually ($2.85 million over three years) through June of 2021 at Georgia.
“This move is about money for Jim,” a source close to the situation said late Tuesday night. “Jim’s nearing retirement and it’s a chance for him to make a significant amount more than Kirby (Smart) was willing to pay him to stay.”
Ah, now there’s a question: in the end, whose decision was it? Here’s another: was the money too much?
Apparently, Georgia found itself in a bidding war with Jeremy Pruitt over Chaney’s services, something I imagine didn’t exactly thrill Greg McGarity.
Smart was under the impression as late as Monday that Chaney would be staying, and the Bulldogs offered Chaney a raise to maintain his post.
Tennessee’s offer, however, grew too rich for Smart to match without disrupting his offensive staff’s financial harmony.
“Offensive staff’s financial harmony” is your euphemism of the day, kids.
There is a faint whiff of Richt-era economics to the circumstances. Keep in mind that there was a significant gap between what Georgia paid its two coordinators last season and that there wasn’t a similarly sized gap between the performance of Georgia’s offense and defense, statistically speaking (as an example, both units finished fourteenth nationally in scoring.)
The reality is that Georgia is flush and if the program wanted to match Tennessee’s last offer, it could have done so and gone on to pay the rest of the staff what it takes to keep things harmonious. Somebody chose not to and we’ll probably never hear the reasoning that went into making that call. But it’s the most intriguing aspect surrounding Chaney’s departure.
Is it a coup for Pruitt? Given what the Vols are laying out for Chaney, I have no doubt it’ll be celebrated in Knoxville as such. And human nature being what it is, I’m pretty sure Pruitt’s taking some personal satisfaction in making McGarity squirm. My take, though, is closer to Dan Wolken’s.
Indeed, Tennessee knows what it’s getting better than most, in that it’s a return gig. More power to both Pruitt and Chaney.
As far as Georgia goes, Kirby is now looking to fill both coordinator positions. He’s got to do that against the backdrop of finishing up his 2019 class recruiting, too.
Based on the internet chatter I’ve seen, there’s a significant block of Dawgnation that is cheered by Chaney’s departure. Here’s one prominent example of that sentiment.
https://twitter.com/Real_JSW/status/1082830202818957312
https://twitter.com/Real_JSW/status/1082833097043918849
All well and good, but there’s definitely an element of be careful what you wish for in play now. Georgia only gets better if it makes a good hire for Chaney’s replacement. Logic suggests that James Coley is going to get a long, hard look as an internal promotion. Coley’s pros and cons are pretty apparent ($$):
Coley was by Chaney’s side in the press box this season. Coley was pursued by Texas A&M last year to be the offensive coordinator under Jimbo Fisher (the play-caller). Smart retained Coley by offering a raise and moving him to quarterbacks coach, plus offering him the title of co-offensive coordinator.
The “co” could now be dropped from Coley’s title. He was the play-caller at Miami from 2013-15, with the Hurricanes ranking 67th in total offense in his final season there, and 48th and 47th the previous years. Coley is a strong recruiter, helping Georgia reel in a number of south Florida prospects, most recently cornerback Tyrique Stevenson.
I doubt Coley is the kind of guy who’s going to bring a radically different approach to Georgia’s offensive scheme, but I also doubt that Kirby is looking for someone to bring a radically different approach to Georgia’s offensive scheme. Count that as another point in Coley’s favor.
One other issue to keep in mind is easy to overlook.
Instead, a position group already in flux with Nauta’s decision to turn pro and freshman Luke Ford’s decision to transfer to Illinois will be further in flux. Whoever the Bulldogs decide to take over tight ends will be that group’s third position coach in three seasons.
That coach will inherit rising senior Charlie Woerner and redshirt freshman John FitzPatrick. The Bulldogs also signed 4-star prospect Ryland Goede of Kennesaw Mountain in the early signing period last month. Several walkons play the position as well.
Talk about a bunch that’s gotten short shrift in the last three seasons. At least they won’t have to hear the jokes anymore about how this was going to be the season for sure when Chaney got the tight ends involved in the offense.
Interesting times, no doubt. Stay tuned.
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UPDATE: In case you’re wondering…
I could be wrong, but I think that makes Chaney the highest paid offensive coordinator in the country.
I’ll simply say that I’m very happy with the news, and in a due time we will be saying that this is payback for UT unloading Kevin Ramsey on us. Now if we can only convince Chaney to slug Pruitt at some point ;-).
Remember, it was just a few short years ago that UT fans were laughing at us for hiring Chaney as his OC. Now those same fans suddenly like feel Chaney is the next Sean McVay. Funny how that works. This is a very sexy opening and I hope Smart brings in a fresh voice. I’m afraid, however, that Coley will be promoted in short order.
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We’ll end up w/ someone who runs the offense exactly how Kirby wants it run. Creativity, freshness, innovation. Forget it. It’s all about imposing our will. Thinking outside that box isn’t allowed.
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If my sources are correct, Big Jim was Pruitts sixth choice (approx). Some coup for UT. I think most here under appreciated Cheney and we all found ourselves infuriated at times. Thing is, there’s not an OC out there that doesn’t get the same grief about the same issues. Anybody remember Bobo’s crayon?
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Everyone in the stands could call better plays. Just ask them.
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Instead of spending a lot of money on a fancy new OC, we should just put that money towards technology that allows Bubba from Moultrie in Section 325 the capability of having his choice for the next offensive play wirelessly transferred directly into Jake Fromm’s helmet.
We’d never punt again!
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Now there’s an idea!
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Change Bubba to Will and we may be on to something.
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Speaking of Moultrie….Rush Propst to UGA as offensive coordinator…You heard it here first!!
Just kidding, guys….although he may have another family in Athens…You never know how many kids and exes he has running around.
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It seems most of the people there forgave him for that. Of course winning tends to do that. Had he stunk up the joint, they would of fired most of the staff out there, cause morals or something.
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Don’t understand the condescension on Moultrie or So Ga. Plenty of nice folks and Dawgs down that way. It’s part of Georgia.
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Meh, we got more important things to worry with down here than insults from North GA. Bless their hearts.
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Amen.
Moultrie High School Class of ’74.
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Worth County High ’83.
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No offense intended. I was just thinking of names of cities in Georgia and Moultrie was the first that popped in my head…and “Bubba” is just a name I call all Georgia fans no matter where they’re from; heck, I even call myself “Bubba” from time to time.
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No worries man
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Because a lot of these guys are not even from this part of the country let alone Georgia. And a lot of them who are from Georgia are from, live in, and do their best to never venture beyond Atlanta. Anybody from Georgia who is not from Atlanta is an uneducated redneck. Just ask them, they will be glad to tell you. Oh and poor too. All of us from South Georgia are poor and they are all a bunch of rich boys. Thats fine. The only time I go to Atlanta is when I’m on my way to the mountains and I get it in my rearview mirror as quickly as possible. I don’t like city life and a lot of what comes with it. So they can have that place they think is so great and I’m well satisfied being “bubba” down here in the hinterlands.
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I was one who was less than thrilled with Chaney. But as time passed I decided he was functional enough in the Georgia system. This is going to be a very important hire for Kirby obviously. What troubles me is the cheapness aspect. The team has played well enough that the assistants deserve a raise and the way this is playing out has the odor of McGarity all over it.
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I don’t think not giving him a $600k raise on a 3 year K is “cheap.”
I think uga would have matched any reasonable offer. UT was desperate and irresponsible. We’re not.
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Wait a second. Why is it the head coach gets all the money? Spread the cash around. Some places the head coach makes 6 million and the OC gets a measly 450,000. A little communism please.
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Also our 2 losses this year saw the O go into a complete shell, while the D held on for as long as they could.
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Does he get credit for any of the wins, or just the losses?
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Wonder how badly Lane Kiffin would like to call plays against Tennessee and Alabama …
Don’t get me wrong: I don’t want Kiffin in Athens. But … it’d be entertaining.
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Pairing Enos back up with Pittman makes sense.
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Hasn’t Enos gotten the Bama job already?
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Not official.
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Wasn’t Enos the first choice Kirby tried to hire but he had a clause at Arkansas that prohibited it?
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Yes.
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Correct Derek and Mg4……….my understanding is the full court press is on to lure Enos here.
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Please make that happen!
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Get him in Athens or have Bama pay enough so that the highest paid OC isn’t in Knoxville
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Kiffin popped in my head too. FAI isn’t getting Kiffin noticed, but maybe 2 years in Athens with elite talent would.
As for doe Smart want a guy like him in staff? Ace recruiter and OC.
I still think it’s Coley.
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The guy is too much of a train wreck. Just say “no” to Lane Kiffin. Not worth it.
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^This. I don’t want the Kiffin circus anywhere near Athens. I don’t understand why there’s so much chatter among our fanbase about him, but, NO.
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The only real value to UGA hiring Junior is as a reverse troll to Tennessee for hiring Chaney.
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LOL!
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I might hire him just to see what he tweets in the event that we make it to Atlanta again and he happens to out-coach Saban.
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Can we not go after Pruitt as well? Bring him back as defensive coordinator with all the money we save?? Then we could go after Kiffin to run the offense. I don’t know if Peyton Manning is ready to run an offense yet – but he could coach QBs at least.
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Mabey next year we won’t see so many draw plays up the middle.
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Or every short yardage play trotting Brian Herrin on to the field.
He made several of those, but not using Holyfield is mLpractice.
And do we really forget using Chubb to “block” on 4th and one for 165lb soaking wet Isiah Mckenzie?
Chaney was a good choice, middling offenses other than at Purdue, who ramped up his numbers with superior talent.
Jeez, 5 stars, Chubb, Michel, Fromm, Godwin, Nauta, Robertson, Hardman, Swift, Salyer, Hill, Mayes, Wilson, Cleveland, etc. and 37 pts p game is all he can muster?
You could do that spinning a play call wheel with this offense.
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You really need to go check out where UGA’s offense ranks nationally. Sure, he isn’t Lincoln Riley, but Chaney was a solid OC.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category10/sort02.html
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Yeap, nothing to do with having an NFL caliber TE, WR, and RBs on top a greatly improved OLine from pre-16 era.
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Agree Merk! Kind of like the reputation Al Borges had at AU with Brown and Cadillac. Where is he now?? TN has a long way to go to acquire the talent that Chaney has coached over the last 3 years. Chaney was good, not great. And he seemed to improve only after Coley was in his hip pocket the last two seasons.
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I admit I didn’t like Chaney’s performance as OC much (his first home game against Nicholls and his last game in New Orleans left something to be desired) … other than the fact he was able to bring Mr. Yessirrrrrr to Athens. Chaney did a lot of good stuff last year with Chubb and Michel, and the fact he took Fromm from the 3rd possession of the season to a national title game was pretty impressive.
Not sorry to see him go, but good luck because he isn’t walking into a situation where he has an NFL prospect at QB (Eason) and a stable of skill guys.
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My greatest worry about all this is that Pittman will get recruited to join him in TN. Hope we don’t go cheap with him.
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Pruitt ain’t moving Will Friend aside for Sam Pittman.
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Radi was trying to make me pay, but I was able to deduce from the comments that Bama was snooping around Pittman.
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I’m sure they are. My take was and is that if Pittman wanted to work for Saban he would have. It seems to me that people who have options stay away. You go there to get, or regain, a reputation. Or as a quick way station bigger and better things.
If you’ve got options why put up with Gunnery Sgt. Hartman while you’re in the prime of your career?
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I’m not suggesting he would leave. Just that they are interested, and after what Clemson’s d front did to Bama I don’t blame them.
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Fulmer would
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I dislike Fulmer as much as the next guy, but there’s no way Pruitt is letting him make staff decisions.
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the way it should be, but you just know that Fulmer is putting his 2 cents in there somewhere. Two headstrong guys….but they are still working together, who knows.
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Got that right, Fat Boy is a snake…just ask Johnny.
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What if Friend is Bama’s next OL coach?
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Don’t think Friend is leaving Pruitt, either. They’re best buds.
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I hear Schottenheimer might be available.
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What’s “decided schematic advantage” doing these days?
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I always felt like Chaney was a safe hire for Kirby, perfect for while he was building the program. The Texas game has me thinking this is the right time for him to move on. Maybe the next guy will help us get over the hump.
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I wonder if it was really Pruitt’s choice or was it Fulmer’s?
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Phil needed a new Krispy Kreme buddy.
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Until they get to the last one…..
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“Continuity” is a good, but in this case……not so sure. Never was thrilled when he was first hired him (his past performance)…..and whoever called that Bama MNC game (Smart or Chaney?), blew it imo, took their foot off the gas. Honestly, thinks we could be better off.
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Mark Richt would make a good OC.
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Miami 2018 says, “Nope.”
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2018 aside, I’ve always thought Richt was fairy creative as a playcaller.
Also pragmatic enough to see when something was working to repeat it until they stopped it.
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Well, I should say as long as there is someone screaming “Hell no” into his headset when he goes to call a triple-reverse, flea-flicker in the midst of an otherwise dominating offensive performance.
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I disagree. I remember when he was calling plays for us it seems like our offense usually seemed to be struggling when we were headed into the Cocktail Party (that’s what sticks out to me at the moment).
When he had us doing well overall it was with VanGorder’s defense (‘03 Tennessee as an example).
Our offense didn’t really get going until Bobo was calling plays.
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Agreed. We set a record for FG’s kicked (literally) when Richt was calling plays. He turned it over to Bobo, and after a couple of years Mike was setting records.
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I hear Jon Richt is available.
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No, no he wouldn’t.
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While it’s happening more quickly than I anticipated (at least in Chaney’s case), this is the test of Smart’s long-term program management. You have to do at least a decent job of replacing coaches. It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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The easy part is that a lot of people will want the job. The hard part is picking the right guy.
Who wouldn’t want to show up and not fuck Jake Fromm up for 7 figures annually?
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I’m a little concerned that he might be focusing on internal promotions, not that those are inherently bad. It’s just that it doesn’t seem like covering all of your bases. Given how close the vest he plays things, that’s pretty much wild speculation at this point, though.
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We don’t know yet do we?
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How has Clemson essentially retained the same staff for several years, yet programs like bama, and now UGA, changed staff frequently?
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Clemson lost their OC. I expect they’ll lose another one within the next couple of years. Venables, for whatever reason, doesn’t seem to want a head coaching job. That simplifies things for Swinney on that side.
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They lost one OC who went to SMU and he’s now at Arky. The co-OCs that took over are both still there I believe (Elliot interviewed for a few HC jobs, Scott didn’t). Ought to see if either wants to give it a go without the co- part in Athens.
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Brent Venables makes $2.2 million a year, for starters.
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His son is a scholarship LB there too.
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I’m with the Senator. If Kirby had wanted him bad enough he could have kept him. I seem to remember Kirby yelling “WTF” a bunch of times this season in the red zone, and for all the talk about the complicated playbook it seemed pretty vanilla to me this season?
Wasn’t Chaney coaching QB’s as well as TE’s this season?
What are the chances they’re talking to You-know-who who only has one year left on his contract?
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The play book seemed to open up more against Bama, but the problem was that after the 1st half they had seen the newer stuff and game planned around it. Upside to having 20 former coaches analyzing game film during the game for you I guess.
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My read is that they set Chaney up to make a bunch of money, but it was time. His 3 year stay is “lengthy” for Jim. He’s 57 and not in great shape.
Who thinks Bobo may be ready to come home for a slight raise and less pressure?
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Me! Me!
What fun that will be. As much fun as I’ve poked at CMB down through the years, it would be interesting to see how he does with a strong O-line and O-line coach/recruiter. And if he doesn’t do well, goes 11-3 for instance? We can always regenerate the “Blame Bobo” meme. That seemed to be more fun than “Fire Chaney”.
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Bobo makes about $2 million a year, so I don’t see a raise, but he did have a rough year on and off the field. He might be able to say that his knees aren’t good enough to be a HC.
One thing is Bobo has aged a ton while at CSU. Smart and Bobo are basically the same age but Bobo looks 10+ years older.
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And the man has to think about retirement. I mean, $950k is chump change. Hard to build a nest egg on that, amirite??
I don’t like the uncertainty in the staff right now, but maybe all these (NFL departures, Chaney leaving) are related. It did seem like Kirby reamed him out over the headset a few times, but that happens with all coaches everywhere.
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Bobo likes the zone-blocking scheme and I don’t think we have the linemen for it. We’re built with road graders for the power-running game, not the smaller and quicker linemen that we had under Richt and Bobo. It wouldn’t be good.
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Are they using zone blocking at Colorado State?
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They’re not using any blocking at Colorado State.
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Our base play and most common play is literally “Inside Zone”. We run almost no Power plays anymore. They stopped that after 2016. We have basically been about 60% zone and 35% man blocking the past two years. When will this nonsense from the Chip Towers article finally die?
Here is a direct quote from Kirby Smart toward the end of the season last year about the turnaround of the OL from 2016: “We ran a lot of zone plays last year. We have run a lot of zone plays this year, probably just less gap plays is the biggest difference,” Smart said, then added, “Having some situations where we get a little more favorable boxes is what we are always trying to do.”
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Coley coached QB’s this year, moving over from WR and allowing Kirby to bring in Hankton.
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This isn’t a surprise based on the multiple headset meltdowns.
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Some observations:
Georgia’s S&P+ ranking on offense with Chaney and year prior*:
2018: 4
2017: 14
2016: 93
2015*: 81
Alabama’s under Kiffin and year prior*:
2016: 9
2015: 24
2014: 7
2013*: 10
Chaney is very good at what he does. More to the point, he’s near the top of the list in the kind of offense Kirby wants to run. The offenses ahead of Georgia this year were Oklahoma, Alabama, and Ohio State – who approach the game very differently. There are far fewer “up and comers” in what Kirby wants to do offensively. I can’t name any.
Fulmer is more than happy to add to his staff by subtracting from rivals. Not having Pruitt on the sidelines may have cost Alabama a national championship Monday. Which means Fulmer is happy to overpay to subtract Chaney from Kirby’s operation. Maybe he’s wasting Haslam’s money. But I can see what he’s thinking and what he perceives the ceiling on the investment to be.
So, I guess we get to see how well Kirby handles evaluation and hiring of staff. Odds he gets both coordinator positions right?
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I think Chaney is fine, but I also think those numbers are as much a factor of the players as him. I just don’t think he’s that difficult to replace, ultimately. Now, it’s entirely possible that Smart could hire someone actually bad who WOULD do damage. I don’t consider that likely, as he hasn’t made many missteps thus far, but it’s a possibility.
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Probably worth a roll of the dice to Fulmer, especially if Chaney is better than anyone else who had interest
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The more encouraging numbers are Arkansas and Pitt’s numbers their first years post-Chaney.
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Over the past two seasons a number of folks, myself included, have lamented the fact that we did not take advantage of our opportunities and close the deal against Alabama, pointing out that those chances don’t come along all that often. We’re usually drowned out by a chorus of “dude we are so stacked for the future and Kirby is the MAN! We’ll be back.” Kirby does at least appear to be the man, we’ll see. But now we’re needing to replace two coordinators and a whole bunch of young players will need to step up right away. To answer a previous question, I think we’re rebuilding not reloading. And I’m wondering why so many folks seem to think now is a good time to leave. Something my inner Munson will fret about during the off season.
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Chaney was supposed to be the stability coach with no ego who would not make waves and seek other jobs. Guess that meme was wrong.
If he dosen’t offer stability, recruiting or a dynamic offense, and Kirby dictates that the team run the ball to “impose their will”, I’m not sure his departure is that big of a deal.
You never saw Kirby cussing out Mel Tucker on the sidelines like Kirby yelled at Chaney. I got to think Kirby dosen’t respect him that much.
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I’ve never been a fan of the Chaney hire. I think, in large part, his deficiencies were masked by Pittman’s line and our stable of running backs. He outperformed my expectations at times but that always seemed to be against lesser talented teams. In every single contested games, it was the offensive play calling and strategy that left me aggravated. That position is still the most important hire for Smart. Having to replace both the OC and DC in the same season is never optimal but it should be fairly easy to find a better OC with what UGA has to offer. Purse strings not withstanding. Keeping Pittman is critical and the biggest drawback to a Chaney departure. I don’t think we were ever going to get over that final hump with Chaney. The question is, does Kirby make the hire for that to be possible.
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Hey, we didn’t let him leave. Kirby did. If Kirby wanted him at UGA, he’d be at UGA.
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His hire was given a “meh” response in Athens as I recall, but we said “hell, he almost made Jonathan Crompton a 3K yard QB at Tennessee + he coached that Drew Brees guy, so let’s see what he can do.” Overall, a very solid, but I don’t think he’s irreplaceable.
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I can’t say I feel any loss for losing Chaney, but I was bummed when Mel Tucker left. I think his absence was felt at the Sugar Bowl.
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Of the two sides of the ball, the defense performed a hell of a lot closer to expectations than the offense. It was 20-7 forever despite special teams and the offense essentially giving Texas 10 points.
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Yea, it was all about play calling, nothing to do with our O lineplaying like shit and their defense stepping up.
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Thank you for putting words in my mouth.
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That’s what he does best. That, and insulting people for no reason.
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I’m going to miss Chaney’s red zone offense.
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Georgia is at a crossroads. we have always been a “pro style”. but in reality, the pro style has changed and gone more spread, fewer and fewer pro or college programs run what we run anymore. We are in danger of being left behind schematically, which may eventually hurt recruiting if we don’t adapt offensively. time will tell if Kirby is aware enough or too stubborn to realize this..
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I see it the same way. I think he is aware enough, he even saw Saban move forward on this with Kiffin and the recruitment of Tua, but it is out of his comfort zone. Very telling hire, and not without risk; it isn’t like we aren’t pretty danged successful. But after two blown 2nd half leads against Bama and two offensive shitshows in Baton Rouge and NOLA, there are many questioning Kirby (right or wrong).
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i realize we have more spread components than we did a few years ago, more zone read, etc. but one thing that hasn’t changed from Richt -> Smart, is our seeming refusal to try and create mismatches and create pre-snap confusion for the defense.
5 years ago none of us would have guessed that Saban would run a formation with TWO QBs on the field at the same time.. why we didn’t have a play for Fromm/Fields in at the same time this year is beyond me. i am not saying a play like that is necessarily a difference maker, but i think to employ it is a sign that you are looking to be creative and push the envelop in creating defensive confusion..
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Chaney was the safe hire 3 years ago, and not Kirby’s first choice. He wasn’t horrible, but lacked creativity, and had some of his authority limited by KS wanting to stay conservative. KS took QBs away from, and named Coley as co-OC which seemed to cause friction. It was time for him to go, and not time to throw more money at him.
The last 3 years has seen the game take some major changes. An Enos, Coley, type hire seems to be the wrong move to me. Kirby has brought the talent on board but has kept the reign too tight. This is a huge hire because UGA has to begin putting up bigger stats or the days of a Nauta/Haselwood type recruit going forward will always pick the Oklahoma, Clemson programs over UGA as we go forward. 2019 and 2020 success, read at least one more CFB playoff, is almost mandatory or we lose all the momentum Kirby and the program had built. Even the NFL, which just hired Kingsbury (who had a losing record as a recently fired college coach), is moving in the direction of wide-open offenses. It started with HS, spread to the college game with Mumme and disciples, and we now see the NFL aligning itself with the two lower levels.
UGA’s offense has been very successful by almost any measure, but is in danger of being viewed as a dinosaur. This hire will signal whether the winds are shifting at UGA. Coley is a great S. Fla recruiter, but would be a signal not much has changed for Kirby. A Sanford at Utah State, or Major Applewhite type hire would be very exciting for UGA fans ready to move out of our shadow. KS should have dozens of excellent picks to choose from, the talent we have on board has to be intriguing to any young gun. Hope he chooses wisely; you don’t get many chances to have the talent, resources, and reputation at such a high level. Our 2020 recruiting will likely depend on these two choices for coordinator spots.
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Yep. Here’s hoping Kirby saw what OU did to our defense last year, and Bama this year, as well as Clemson’s success vs them with a true freshman (while both teams were still more than capable of running the ball and “imposing their will”) and the offense can take a great leap forward.
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Fulmer is happy. More ham and biscuits coming. Now they will need two golf carts. Congrats to Pruitt for bending to Fulmer. What did those kids at Mizzou said back in the day. Old mans football. Fulmer and Chaney…bring out the cotton bale scales.
Dude is close to retiring. Good move Smart and McGarity.
If i hear that crap about the TEs, just run into the middle of Sanford and throw up. Did you guys watch Clemson this season…and how they destroyed the Bama defense. How much did the TE play into their scheme.
Dawgs have to change because of UF, LSU, Auburn, and A&M. The latter is a team on the move. They can move the ball.
Chaney is close to retirement. Has property in Tennessee. Gets to go home. Opportunity for him. Opportunity for Dawgs, Pittman, and Smart.
Why pay that out to match UT. Use that on Pittman and an OC/DC and rest of staff.
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This is my other complaint about Chaney.
Read and heard all this conflicted comments. Should play it safe, pay him, retain him…and what get the same results from ’17 and ’18.
There is an old say…”if you keep making the same mistake, you get the same damn mistake. Stop!”.
How many OC’s in three years had TWO FIVE STAR QBS, AND NOT ONE IS LEFT ON CAMPUS?
What does that say about Chaney. For some of us it says a lot!!! Why were those highly rated QBs never able to get to the Lawrence and Bama QB status. After all he, according to you dudes had all world TEs and blazing speed in WRs.
Did you see that OT between A&M and LSU. LSU which has a strong reputation for safeties and corners could not stop the A&M passing attack.
Now Coley did not go to A&M but stayed with Smart. Given Fisher made a huge hire in an OC.
So why did Smart put Coley in charge of QBs and where Fromm finished the season..3rd. Plus why did Smart partk Coley next to Chaney in the play calling box.
Frankly I do not think this was a late season move. Think this was coming after 3 years.
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It says that Jake Fromm is really good.
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amazing how many people “never really cared for chaney” today, the comments here didnt reflect that.
Guessing by next week no one will be willing to admit that they hate to see Chaney leave.
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Yeah, I’m not exactly thrilled with the news either. I like the opportunity to bring in a more dynamic play-caller, but there’s legit risk here too. Every team hates their OC for large portions of the season (except maybe Clemson right now) but we didn’t make it to the National Championship last last and Atlanta this season by accident.
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All true, but we didn’t get there by creativity either. Looking at Clemson and Bama’s talent (and Orlando’s scheme last Tuesday against us), having a predictable offense is not going to get us to the next step.
As for fans screaming about play calling, that is just the dummies. People love, or hate, the results of individual plays, that is irrelevant for the most part. It is the OC’s scheme, multiplicity of looks and motions, plus how they use personnel that determines how good/great they are. Chaney was fine when you overpower their athletes, and was fine in the 90s and early part of the 21st century. He also would have stayed forever if we could have gotten the results we needed. That is why he is back on Knoxville, along with his daughter being there.
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I’ll miss him if they hire somebody bad, but it’s not like he’s irreplaceable. He’s a solid OC who will get more or less what he should out of the talent on hand, but he doesn’t seem to squeeze out anything extra.
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If Kirby thought Chaney was worth the $4.5 mil of whatever he’s getting, then he would have fought to keep him. That he did not tells me what I need to know.
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I wouldn’t argue Chaney isn’t good at his job, but in pivotal games his offenses haven’t performed well. Kirby is ultimately responsible for that mess in the Sugar Bowl, but Chaney owns it too. Just a preference, but I also didn’t care for his run game.
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I’ll do it for $250k and use the savings to hire Herschel as an advisor. Surely one of his personalities can call a great game, motivate the offense, and preach how the ball ain’t heavy. I’d also work on getting his final year of eligibility reinstated.
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The OC hire will tell us more about Kirby than any other thing in his short HC career. The problem with prior DC hires at HC has always been they have low expectations from their offense. They use the old “just don’t screw it up for my defense” meme. Look at Muschamp at UF and then at SCU as a perfect example. Then look at St. Urban he was a former defensive guy that when all in with the new offenses. I’m not saying we need to go to the run and shoot but we do need to utilize all these star offensive recruits or we will soon not have any. The lack of any great passing stats is not going to get you guys that want to get to the next level. We all love the “running back U” but most really get WR’s are not going to be content with blocking on 4 out of 5 plays and getting only 2 or 3 touches a game. If Kirby doesn’t hire an OC to open the offense up we will just be wasting the good recruiting of WR’s which has already taken a hit with the kid going to OK.
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I liked Chaney. But the part about him eyeing retirement makes me think maybe this is all right. I guess in the end it depends on who will replace him though. Should be a lot of quality applicants.
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Chris Hatcher
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Dang, JSW bringing the hot takes!
I’m not happy with all the churn in the system right now, but it’s an opportunity for an upgrade. Chaney did okay the last two years after a terrible first year. Still not certain it was all on Chaney, though. Pretty sure he was just enacting Kirby’s will.
Watching Clemson outcoach Bama on both sides of the ball makes me nervous about just plugging in the best recruiter in the OC and DC spots.
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My UK friends up north say that there is a rumbling that UGA is talking to Eddie Gran. #sayitaintso
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Cashing in on the conference, divisional, and Rose Bowl titles, it’s probably a good move for all parties.
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Apparently the Eddie Gran stuff is true. Nothing official, just that they are rumored to be talking. Why Kirby? You have got to be smarter than this.
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Take the last 2 seasons away from Chaney and he’s maybe a .500 coach for his entire career. At his two most recent stops, Pitt and Arky, the offenses improved after Chaney left. Thanks for taking him off our hands utk.
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