This, however, sounds like the Georgia Way.

If the Georgia Way was a supposedly confidential investigation that leaks like a sieve, that is.

A person familiar with the investigation of the possible violations by Georgia running back Todd Gurley told the AJC on Friday that it’s a “significant” case of the sale of memorabilia and there is a possibility that Gurley may not be cleared to return to the field this season.

Unlike the case involving Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel of Texas A&M, the source says, there is evidence that wasn’t available in the Manziel case.

Nothing like letting the cat out of the bag prematurely.  I would say that I await Greg McGarity’s presser next week, except we’ll probably know everything by Tuesday, anyway.

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147 responses to “This, however, sounds like the Georgia Way.

  1. Coondawg

    Transparency….geez

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  2. Raleigh St. Claire

    He’s an absolute joke of an Athletics Director.

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  3. PatinDC

    Not surprised. Knew it would be the case the moment it was announced. Sure leaves a bad taste for the rest of the season. I hope the rest of the kids can pull together and make something positive happen for them.

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  4. PTC DAWG

    It appears the evidence against Gurley is overwhelming..I’m over him…

    Beat Mizzou!!

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    • Raleigh St. Claire

      Why would you be done with Gurley?

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      • PTC DAWG

        Is that a rhetorical question?

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        • Mayor

          I’m not sure the case against Gurley is overwhelming. We have a Gator fan who sells illegally acquired sports stuff (probably some of it fake) on the internet who says he paid $400 to Gurley and a video of a black male with dreadlocks taken from behind with his face not visible signing something. That’s not very solid evidence to me. Manziel had worse and he got a plea deal of 1/2 game. Maybe Greg and Mark will surprise us, hire Glazier and stand behind their guy instead of throwing him under the bus. If they do I for one will be cheering even if it doesn’t work. One thing I am sick of is noodle-backbone McGarity investigating and giving the NCAA their case in order to protect his f#cking job. Maybe he’ll surprise us–but don’t count on it.

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          • 69Dawg

            Don’t forget Mayor the AD or coach Richt has probably gotten Todd to confess. It’s the Georgia thing to do. Repeat and throw your self on the mercy of the NCAA. LMAO

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            • Mayor

              THAT, sir, is what really is scaring me about this. We’ll see. If they did that it sure will tell us all a lot about McGarity and CMR, won’t it?

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            • Mayor

              UPDATE!! McGarity just released a new statement that sure sounds like he is supporting Todd Gurley. UGA is paying for an attorney for Todd who specializes in matters of this type (I’m betting on Glazier) and McGarity is urging everyone to not rush to judgment. He further said that there is much misinformation out there so ignore it. Maybe I misjudged the guy. I hope so and will be the first to say so if such is the case.

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          • Bulldog Joe

            I agree.

            I am sure we issued a gag order to everyone connected with the program so it is likely the AJC is overplaying its hand with its “source”. We had enough warning with the September 30 e-mails to get legal counsel in front of this and hopefully launch our own investigation well before yesterday’s suspension announcement..

            However, our “guilty until we prove ourselves guilty” approach with the immediate suspension doesn’t give Georgia fans confidence this is being handled well.

            Most likely we dismiss him from the team on Monday or Tuesday when everyone gets back from the game or we sit in limbo for weeks until the NCAA gets enough time from the O’Bannon case to make a ruling. By that time any ruling would be irrelevant because our season would be over. I call this “the A.J. Green approach”. This is a lose/lose for us.

            A better approach would be to play him until the NCAA produces enough evidence to prove a suspension is warranted. If by some slim chance, the NCAA actually finds enough hard evidence, the season would be over or nearly over and Todd could serve the suspension until he goes pro. I call this “the Ohio State approach”. This approach gives us a good chance to win.

            Of course, there are many people who are being paid for their advice on this issue and I am certainly not one of them. I hope our team plays well tomorrow and our legal counsel makes the right decision on Monday.

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  5. 3rdandGrantham

    Gurley has indeed played his last game for UGA. As mentioned before, if he was suspended more than two games, common sense says he really should leave anyway on his own.

    Best of luck, and its unfortunate that Gurley had to act so selfishly, regardless of how utterly corrupt the NCAA is.

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    • Bulldog Joe

      Appears that way. Now it’s on to a decision on vacated wins using an ineligible player.

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      • Mayor

        There’s no decision to be made. If Gurley is guilty UGA played an ineligible player in 5 games–and won four of them. Forfeit 4 games won.

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    • Rick

      ….said someone who has likely never experienced the level of poverty Gurley grew up in, and has definitely never experienced the tension of that poverty with someone offering you money for a perfectly legal and morally just action.

      It is no coincidence that nearly every heisman calibre player does this, even if they don’t all get caught eBay search does not lie.

      If everyone is “selfish”, no one is.

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      • Raleigh St. Claire

        No kidding. All these “fans” (likely upper middle class and above on the socio-economic spectrum) comfortably ensconced in their good well-paying jobs criticizing an American for making money off of his own hard work are hypocrites of the first degree.

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        • 3rdandGrantham

          You too have me pegged totally wrong. I have no clue about others, but I’m NOT criticizing him for making money off his own hard work. I’m criticizing him for breaking a rule that ultimately end up being detrimental to the team.

          Yes, the NCAA is corrupt and immoral, and should be completely disbanded. But unfortunately we’re still playing under that system, in which rules need to be followed to prevent this from happening.

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      • 3rdandGrantham

        I think you have me pegged completely wrong. First, you have absolutely no clue or inkling as to my overall upbringing. I’ll simply say that I had to work for everything I ever had and didn’t make my final loan repayment from my years at UGA until I was in my early 30’s, in which I also worked during my time there.

        Second, I mentioned the word selfish for several reasons. First, he knew full well the implications involved, yet he chose to broke the rules anyway. Second, he’s provided free tuition, room and board along with a small stipend to boot, so its not like he’s homeless and hungry. Finally, and most importantly, he’s just a few short months away from becoming a multimillionaire, in which his income will easily place him among the infamous top 1%…more like top 99.99% to be accurate. Sure, $400 or whatever certainly would be nice now, but the guy is about to become so wealthy it would make most businessman blush.

        One last note…I think the current NCAA setup is absurd and exploitative, and such bylaws like this are immoral at best. But, unfortunately its the rule that must be followed until its rightfully overturned.

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        • Rick

          Why do the rules need to be followed? The one surefire way to ensure a terrible rule stays is to obey it. Gurley, acting in his own self interest, has contributed to the long term health of the sport.

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          • 3rdandGrantham

            That very well may end up being the case (contribute to long term health…), but only a complete idiot decides to break a particular rule because they (and most others) deem it to be a stupid one. Gurley gets a break because he’s a relatively young kid, but you don’t fight rules by willfully breaking them…you fight them by getting it overturned legally. Like it or not, the NCAA can still punish UGA if we decided to cover up for him and let him keep playing.

            Such attitudes remind me of all the marijuana busts in my neck of the woods, where its illegal. I swear, every time someone is arrested with pot, they bellyache about how dumb the law is and how its legal in Colorado, which of course is absurd, no matter how dumb the law actually is.

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            • Careful Brad

              Not always, I am putting Gurley in the same group as people like Gandhi or MLK that saw wrong in societies laws and broke them with the intent of enacting change. This suspension is just civil disobedience.

              We shall overcome!

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              • Dawganova

                Todd Gurley, the patron saint of overthrowing NCAA bylaws…and fucking over our season. I knew it was too good to be true, that a Dawg would be the frontrunner for the Heisman and possibly (emphasis on possibly) take us to great things this season. I just thought he would tear his ACL by bowling over the backfield, because that’s Georgia right? Expectations upon expectations which are dashed yearly in the most magical fashion. I mean whose knob you gotta shlob to get this UGA curse lifted!!! It is truly unbelievable.

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            • Rick

              And you think the rule is just as likely to be overturned if no one ever breaks it?

              Do you think Prohibition would have ever been repealed if everyone really did stop drinking alcohol?

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              • 3rdandGrantham

                Yes…its on the way out as we speak. By 2016, such a transaction will no longer be against any NCAA bylaws.

                What Gurley did was essentially get caught smoking pot in downtown Denver last December.

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                • I asked that question earlier… this is the answer I received. Technically the 2016 season, but I’d have to check and see if the NCAA appealed. I’m sure they did.

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                • Rick

                  That case hasn’t been ruled on! I hope you are right, but a significant reason the case exists in the first place are the ‘law breakers’ that came before him. Every case that demonstrates the untenability of the current system makes success in the Kessler case more likely. This is just one of them.

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      • Ellis

        At first I thought this “victim” comment was a joke. Are you seriously using poverty as an excuse for Gurley’s choice to act in such a selfish manner that betrayed his teammates, his coaches, the university, and the fans?

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        • Rick

          You are using the term ‘excuse’, but it’s fine with me. Rules are broken because of incentives to break them. Poverty is an incentive to attempt to get one tiny slice of monetary compensation that you are entitled to.

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        • Raleigh St. Claire

          It’s not selfish to seek to profit off of one’s talents, it’s American. The only people who disagree are white men who don’t want some thing they’ve enjoyed for so long to change at all.

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          • Ellis

            Wow, now it is a race thing. Let me guess how you vote? Nevermind, I have already won this argument.

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            • Hackerdog

              I know, right? It’s amazing how many people refuse to recognize the moral superiority of bureaucrats and the rules they force on the rest of us. But one thing confuses me. I understand that normal people and athletes don’t have any moral authority. But does the moral authority of federal politicians, who wrote the anti-trust law, trump the moral authority of NCAA bureaucrats, who wrote the amateurism rules? Or vice versa?

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  6. MJ

    I wish Todd would just tell em all to shove it now and drive on.

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  7. Senator, please make your next music buffet nothing but I’m so lonesome I could cry country and sea shanties and ish.

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  8. hassan

    I think NCAA bylaws will dictate a 4 game suspension based on the dollar amount involved. So theoretically, Gurley could do his time and come back to help the team.

    However, they also stipulate that the school must suspend indefinitely (which we have done) immediately upon finding out. If it turns out that UGA knew something before now, then we may be talking about vacating victories.

    Anybody know the rules better than me who could elaborate?

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    • TuckerDawg

      I’m not as familiar with the bilaws, but I am familiar with the Newton/Manziel/Winston rule. This rule requires the player to deny it, lie, and keep his mouth shut. You can get your picture taken, but not with money, and don’t put any cash in a bank account. According to this rule, the player is usually not suspended, but in rare cases, may be required to sit half a game.

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      • PatinDC

        Don’t forget the OSU addendum. Play the games and suspend them for their senior year. They promise to come back and serve their time.

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    • Mayor

      Bebe Thomas was given some items from someone the NCAA arbitrarily called a runner for agents before the ACCCG in 2009. Georgia Tech found out that Thomas got 1 pair of sneakers and 2 tee shirts (real value less than $100, but the NCAA said was worth $500) from his cousin’s room-mate AFTER the bowl game. The NCAA made Tech forfeit the ACCGG and the bowl for using an ineligible player. All 4 wins thus far by UGA this season will have to be vacated because Gurley, an ineligible player, played in those games. The season is gone–dead, already. Why do we do things like this to ourselves? Why not lawyer up and fight the NCAA like A&M and Auburn? Why not just say to the NCAA: “Prove it?” Why do we just roll over and play dead? Every time!! The NCAA will throw the book at Georgia using whatever WE give them against us. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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  9. The ineptitude on display by UGAs Admins is something to behold.

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  10. sUGArdaddy

    Actually, if it’s $400, it’ll be 2 games. But we don’t know what the amount was. We also don’t know if this ‘source’ is worth a flip. We know nothing. Very disappointed for our kids, we can spin it how we want, but Todd appears to have made a huge mistake that will hurt his team. I don’t like the rule, but there are a lot of rules I don’t like.

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    • DonyHateUGA

      UGA players are responsible for why this rule came about in the first place. Remember the NCAA put this rule in place after 5 UGA players sold their SEC Championship rings. I went to Georgia and love the place but things always seem to come back and bite them in the a**

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      • 69Dawg

        We always have been stupid. Dooley was on the Committee that wrote the Anti-celebration rule and guess what Marc Curles crew used it against us. We are Georgia too dumb to stay out of our own way.

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  11. Only way I could feel worse is if I were one of the many Dawg fans to buy something he signed, realizing I, in a roundabout way, enabled this whole thing. That well intentioned Christmas gift for little Tommy just helped expedite the apocalypse.

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  12. HVL Dawg

    I’m a Chubby Guy. My wife is a Chubby Girl.

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  13. Careful Brad

    Based on the comments my reading comprehension must be lacking. All I read in the article is one “source” said the case could “possibly” take a long time and “may” end Gurley’s season. They quote other “sources” as saying the case “should” be resolved next week.

    I don’t know about you but “sources” plural and “should” sounds more reliable than “source” singular and “may” and “possibly”
    It’s all semantics but I see this as more the AJC creating a clickbaiting headline than any real information.

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    • Could be. They gotta find some way to sell their “premium” content. Stupid fish wrapper. I bet they are pissed that they didn’t break the story.

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    • gatorhater27

      They changed the wording of their article shortly after putting it up: it went from saying “that Gurley is unlikely to be cleared to return to the field this season” to “there is a possibility that Gurley may not be cleared to return to the field this season.” For whatever it is worth.

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  14. Bulldog Joe

    In other good news, sexual assault charges against UF QB Treon Harris have been dropped. Treon is expected to be reinstated in time for the LSU game.

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  15. Russ

    I’ve made the shift from passionate fan to hobby, so I’ll be okay. Hope Mizzou is overlooking us now and Chubb & Douglas grind them down. But it won’t kill me if we lose.

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  16. Just based on this article and what I’ve seen, without knowing the actual facts, sounds to me like Gurley is done at Georgia. Sad day.

    Hope we beat Missouri tomorrow anyway.
    ~~~

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  17. Of course the accuser of Treon Harris drops charges, saying it was her fault. Day before the big game….

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  18. ScoutDawg

    The slimy dickhead memorabilia dickhead planned this all along. Otherwise, why was he filming all this. Too bad Todd didn’t see him.

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  19. Last time I spun up Hwy 61 Revisited was the last time we played Alabama, after their linebacker showed us his 48″ vertical jump.

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  20. Carvell’s next big piece will be something about some recruit spurning us for Bama because were don’t stand behind our players. I’d almost be willing to bet something substantial on that and I don’t bet. It’s coming…

    Damn I’m sour today! Lol!

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  21. I can’t imagine what high school coaches are thinking right now as a once in a generation talent gets left hung out to dry by a bunch of bureaucrats who are trying to protect themselves. If I were Richt, I would be coming out now to call for support for Todd, the team, and changes to the rules. He has the bully pulpit to do it and to make a real difference. I really do believe this is a pivotal moment in the life of the Georgia athletic program. This culture is the remnant of the impact of Jan Kemp and Jim Harrick. It makes me sick for the student-athletes.

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  22. Debby Balcer

    I don’t read the AJC anymore and I don’t trust their unnamed sources why would anyone close to the investigation talk to them. The investigation is still ongoing. If Gurley did sell stuff like AJ Green he was selfish. He knew the rules. I am in upstate SC wearing my red and black today. I will be supporting my DAWGS tomorrow. Praying Gurley is cleared. I know AJ regrets what his decision did to his team I hope he comes back and talks to players about that.

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  23. ChilliDawg

    Sounds like one of those “heard in the hall” type comments that may not be fact. Some things don’t add up:

    o If your selling memorabilia, why try to kill the goose that lays golden eggs? Wouldn’t the collection be worth more as the season goes on especially if he wins the Heisman and the National Championship?

    o If your stuff is fake (which when you look at EBay, those signatures seem to vary a good bit), is this an elaborate scam to prop up prices in the near term? Also, if you believe your competition’s stuff is fake, wouldn’t this knock the legs out of the market?

    o If money was an issue, why go for such a small amount? Always steal millions. Why not jump to the NFL at the end of last season and get a paycheck?

    o Are we now in jeopardy of losing other players? There’s other signatures of current players on EBay. How can anyone determine what comes from G-Day games versus what may be paid for (unless there are videos – supposedly not – or there are checks / electronic transfers)?

    Our AD should be making sure the NCAA goes after the bad guys… not create victims of his players.

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  24. Btw. I hate twitter but #FreeGurley is blowing up. Freaking Manziel has even weighed in.

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  25. What a surprise. The snitch hired the same lawyer that helped Ray Lewis get away with murder. Ed Garland.

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    • I’ll bet the snitch is in hiding but I’m sure the “honorable” Ed Garland is probably not too tough to get in touch with.

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    • Normaltown Mike

      Not defending Ray, but he wasn’t guilty of murder.

      The DA’s office over-charged in hopes Ray would turn against his co-defendants.

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    • Scorpio Jones, III

      That would be Eddie Garland who went…to Georgia, and Georgia Law.

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      • Just shows how sleazy personal injury/defense lawyers can be. This guy would probably be a mob lawyer if there was any mob down here.

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        • Mayor

          You have something against lawyers? This is about the third or fourth absurd comment you have made against the legal profession on this blog. One of them must have made you pay your child support–or got you locked up for non-payment. Which is it?

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          • Actually my mom is a partner in one of the larger corporate firms in Atlanta. I’ve no problem at all with lawyers. Just don’t care for ambulance chasers or class action litigators. I’m pretty sure the only lawyer I’ve insulted is ed Garland. You lay down with dogs you get fleas.

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            • And sorry. No kids so no child support.

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              • And while I do think some defense lawyers are sleazy I understand the need for them. But Ed Garland on his own website calls himself a personal injury attorney. I doubt I’m the only one that considers that a sketchy at best specialty. Sorry if he’s a buddy of yours.

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                • Mayor

                  Not a buddy but a damn good lawyer who does both PI and criminal work and is well respected in the Atlanta legal profession. Whatever issues you have with lawyers sound more like Mommie issues. Might be wise to keep your opinions on lawyers to yourself rather than spread them all over the intertubes when the explanation is so obvious.

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                • Yes. I’m certainly the only person in the world that thinks some lawyers are sleazy. And my comment about only one in particular obviously reflects how I feel about all lawyers. Why don’t you just chill. Sorry that I don’t think getting Ray Lewis out of obstruction of justice charges in a murder case is doing the lord’s work. If you want to make it personal how do you think the murder victims’ families feel about your upstanding buddy?

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                • dudemankind

                  You sure struck a nerve with the “Mayor.” Maybe HE chases ambulances.

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                • Mayor

                  I think a nerve did get struck, dude, but not one of mine. Reread the posts.

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                • Gaskilldawg

                  So it is honorable to represent big corporations but not regular folks? I do not know your Mom but I am sure she is a fine, honorable person and I know Garland is, too. Their clientele doesn’t define them.

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                • Could be. I wasn’t aware he was such a pillar of society. I have no clue why he’d take on this current jack off as a client but maybe manipulating the memorabilia market is lucrative.

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          • dudemankind

            Thats right, lawyers have ALWAYS been among the most loved and respected professions! So much in fact that Olgethorpe banned them from his colony when he started Georgia.

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        • 69Dawg

          Oh he’s helped the old Dixie Mafia a few times.

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  26. Turd Ferguson

    Stop me if you’ve heard this before, but … next year looks like it’ll be really exciting. A young QB with a live arm, Michel and Chubb, second year of Pruitt’s system, …

    I can almost make it through with a straight face.

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    • Normaltown Mike

      The WR’s and QB are spending every Monday night next summer in voluntary passing drills. EVERY. MONDAY.

      Plus, some guys on defense that were quiet and stayed behind the scenes are going to become vocal leaders and be willing to “call out” the younger guys.

      #2015YearOfTheDawgs

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  27. Gene Simmons

    Sounds as if this scumbag is smarter than our AD.
    SOMEONE please pay him a visit and give him a PERSONALIZED autograph!

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  28. So ESPN has publicly outed the dirtbag memorabilia dealer who sparked this shitstorm:

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11676187/sports-memorabilia-dealer-bryan-allen-hires-lawyer-allegedly-paid-georgia-bulldogs-rb-todd-gurley-autographs

    Sincere question: why does he need a lawyer in this situation? As a middle-man between him and the NCAA’s lawyers?

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    • He needs a lawyer so he can run and hide and have someone running interference for him. I doubt he has any legal issues other than maybe if the video was taken w/o Gurley’s knowledge. But since there really isn’t a crime it’s probably a moot point. He just needs a shield from the shitstorm he’s brought onto himself.

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      • 69Dawg

        Wrong it is against the law in Georgia to interfere with a student athlete’s eligibility. I’m not sure if it’s a felony but word is he has hired Ed Garland and that is at least a $10,000 retainer right there.

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  29. Oh, Hell no! Villa Rica? I grew up in Carroll county. Got damn figures! Lol!

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  30. Will Trane

    Todd, just get yourself a tax lawyer, an investment counselor, and a good contract lawyer. Your number is coming up in the draft. And everybody knows who and what you are. First class. Fun watching you play.
    Don’t feel like you let us down. Feel like we let you down.
    For the ass who outed you. What a dumb fuck. He did this knowing how high you could go in the draft. So much for building a lasting business relationship that could be beneficial down the road for him. Let the Dawg Nation piss on him forever!
    But it is what it is now. Sort out time.
    Time for the Dawgs to move on. And if starts going south early in the game, maybe Mason needs to sign up, too. Start getting experience for 2015, and hope the team’s fortune is better.

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