Heh.
If you got it, flaunt it, baby.
Heh.
Ohio State will honor Jim Tressel (again) during the Northern Illinois game. http://t.co/4NS8JSsDuR pic.twitter.com/B0S62hfZCI
— Eleven Warriors (@11W) September 15, 2015
If you got it, flaunt it, baby.
“We remember the Sugar Bowl, I think it my junior year of high school, we let Alabama beat us twice,” Brinson said of a team that also lost to the Crimson Tide in the SEC Championship game. “We’re not letting Alabama beat us twice. In the Sugar Bowl in 2018, they… thought they should have been in the playoffs and lost to Texas.” -- AB-H, 12/27/23
Columbus, Ohio, a town where NCAA probation is a badge of honor, where good coaches who have done bad things are celebrated. Victory Ueber Alles. Smoke em if you got em?
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Do you think you can explain what Tressel did “wrong” other than dive on a grenade for the program?
Enlighten me, because I’m willing to bet you’re not as informed about that situation as you think you are.
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On April 25, 2011, the NCAA accused Tressel of withholding information and lying to keep Buckeyes players on the field. In a “notice of allegations” sent to Ohio State, the NCAA charged that Tressel’s actions were considered “potential major violations” which had “permitted football student-athletes to participate in intercollegiate athletics while ineligible.” The report also said he “failed to comport himself … (with) honesty and integrity” and that he lied when he filled out a compliance form in September stating that he had no knowledge of NCAA violations by any of his players. Tressel later stated that he lied about the violations because he didn’t want to jeopardize the FBI’s investigation against Rife and also feared for his players’ safety. Despite his stated safety concerns, Tressel only briefly spoke with two players, never inquired of the two if other players were involved and also in danger, nor in his discussions with players ever mentioned Mr. Rife, the tattoo parlor, or the selling of Ohio State merchandise. The NCAA’s report explicitly refuted the credibility of this excuse.
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The onus of credibility is on the NCAA. The only difference between the Miami investigation and the allegations against Jim Tressel, is that Tressel resigned. Smith had just as much of a reason to file a lawsuit as did Miami when they threatened to. The NCAA backed down. In this case Tressel resigned. Dragging it out wouldn’t have benefitted the kids that were still on the team and would have effectively punished them. Like I said, Miami and USC are still feeling it.
The Ohio state university are the undisputed national champions.
There you go.
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I’m not sure what “onus of credibility” means. If this means you trust TOSU more than the NCAA, then fine. BTW, did the Miami lawsuit hurt the players on the team?
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How many years did Miami self impose sanctions on itself before the NCAA decided to back down from what would have been an embarrassing situation for them and a victory for Miami? Following through on a lawsuit would have more than likely meant the death penalty for Miami, at least for the period of time they remained the governing body over college athletics… Those goons would have been found guilty without a doubt.
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Do you people always come here to comment on things that you know nothing about?
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Will the first 500 people arriving at the stadium be receiving free tattoos?
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🙂 excellent!
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Because trading memorabilia that you earned for a tattoo gives you an advantage in a football game….but only after you beat the SEC runner up
Smh..
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Because NCAA violations leave you ineligible to play.
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In that case everyone should be allowed to take online courses.. Over sign, start 1 month after transfer..get paid for autographs…
Say what you want, but had that been Georgia, you would have thought it was as ridiculous as we still do.
It’s not cheating any more than earning a championship ring. It was their property ffs.
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Your response was simply to assert that Tressel is really, really, a good guy, and if he was at Georgia I would feel differently? Does that mean that he was not guilty of the charges?
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What charges? Tressel wasn’t charged with anything. He resigned. And to his credit, Gene Smith wasn’t about to self-impose anything until the NCAA made a decision… A decision, by some strange coincidence, that came the day Urban Meyer accepted the head coaching job at the Ohio state university.
But the odd thing is, that 6-6 Luke fickell team was permitted to play in a bowl, but forced to vacate the Arkansas win, and banned from bowls the following year. Talk about ass backwards!
He who laughs last…
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Sorta coincidental that Tressel elected to retire after getting his hand caught in the cookie jar, I guess. The charges remained as described by Don. It was part of their case against tOSU. The NCAA doesn’t prosecute, they persecute, and sometimes for the correct reason.
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So you’re saying A J Green and Gurley should not have been penalized because in one case he owned it and in the other it was his signature to give??? Funny how the NCAA works. The “rules” say you can’t. How is OSU different? Oh yeah… their coach tried to cover it up.
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I don’t know enough about that situation to comment on it. If it was indeed similar then yes, it is just as ridiculous. We love AJ in Cincinnati, BTW..
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Is that a slight twinge you are feeling in your chest? Probably just gas..
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If ANYONE tried to cover anything up, it was manziel, and the NCAA shit the bed once he lawyered up.
The NCAA tried to cover it’s own tracks after screwing up the Miami investigation. Their AD called them on their shit in public and they backed down fast.
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Didn’t you have a Heisman candidate RB who mentioned that you covered up free cars from the local dealer – oh! – and another QB who had the same thingy going on, but in another way, after the tattoo and selling autograph thingy had been sorted out? And Tressel spent time trying to circumvent the circumstances with his e-mails and didn’t he lie about it, and wasn’t that all collusion by the school and the President even stated that he would get fired before the coach? Since then, Gee Whiz! doesn’t have the same connotation it used to have.
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Had be not screwed up, how else would they have considered getting Urban.
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He didn’t screw up any more than the NCAA did when they tried to hire Nevin Schapiro’s attorney.
Legally, the NCAA could not use information that would jeopardize client attorney privileges.
Cicero’s email to Tressel was no different. Tressel couldn’t use that information because the email did exactly that, and until their items were confiscated during the raid on the tattoo shop, there was no evidence.
But we are talking about tattoos… Traded for jerseys and rings. Things the players earned.
So now Tressel took the bullet so the program could move on, or it would still be pulling out shrapnel like Miami and USC…. Over tattoos.
Bullshit.
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You’re arguing that Tressel, as a football coach, was bound by attorney-client privilege between two other guys? Interesting. Which case establishes that precedent?
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I am arguing that the email from Cicero violated attorney client privilege. To suspend players based on an email alone would have forced Tressel to explain any suspension. How does Jim Tressel go public without compromising the investigation? The email was in April. The memorabilia wasn’t recovered until Dec. What is his course of action? Should he have lawyered up to like Johnny manziel?
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I’m saying the NCAA used information (the email) that violated attorney client privilege. No difference between that or hiring Nevin Schapiro’s attorney to obtain information.
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Of course there is. Nevin Schapiro’s attorney was an attorney. Therefore, he was bound by attorney-client privilege for his other clients. Tressel was a football coach, not an attorney. Therefore, he isn’t bound by privilege. He is bound by his contract with OSU and the NCAA guidelines, which demand that he report the information contained in the emails.
So, Cicero violated his duties as an attorney by reporting to Tressel. And Tressel violated his duties as a football coach by not reporting the same information. Easy.
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Had Tressel not resigned, defense and special teams would have never improved IMO.
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OSU, the Auburn of the B1G.
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OSU isn’t Alabama’s bitch.
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Give it a little time and I’m betting that OSU is going to be Michigan’s bitch.
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But not today.
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Gotta love the attention this still gets from Georgia fans…
Game on.
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Gotta love OSU’s abysmal record against SEC teams. If it’s not 2 of 18, it’s something awfully close..
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At least they have a national title, conference title, and a number one ranking. And they have 3 QBs that can play.
Yep, that sure as hell aint the Georgia way…self indulgence, pious, better-than thou attitudes…always on the cusp but never drinking from the victory cup.
Frankly many of us are tired of the same old same old out of Athens.
Take a look at the men’s Big Three programs…all treading water year after year…with a promise of getting the alums to the promise land…just keep sending in those dollars.
I don’t care if you have to kick your grandmother off the tail gate, get it done…at least every decade of so…10 years and running [we run the ball at UGA].
UGA way…CMR is 1 out of 5 against the old ball coach while at UGA.
Would not like to see a Dawg team hang 50+ on Spurrier.
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Or 5 out of 10. Whatever is convienent for you.
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Don’t let pesky facts get in the way of a good Will Trane bitchfest… which has oddly turned into a osu/corch love fest..
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A majority of Ohio state fans disagree with that manner of doing things including myself.
I was skeptical about hiring Meyer. So much trouble in Florida. I assumed it was him. Now, I understand why he wanted out and why it would drive any head coach batshit to have to deal with so many outside problems.
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tOSU is trying to be like Auburn…where getting the football team on severe probation gets you on the BOT and the field named after you.
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ohio is truly the Auburn of the Big?, they just play a cupcake schedule due to the cruddiness of the conference. They have cheated early, and often. Remember Maurice’s $10K stereo system stolen from “his ride”? Or the booster who traveled the state for years selling autographed, used equipment (shoulder pads, helmets, etc). Now how do not know where that equipment wen? and when on sale at the flea markets, memorabilia shows, how did no one question the legality of that? Is the whole state complicit in their cheating? Imagine how long it would be before another SEC school reported another for that blatant violation. Stinks, like State Pen.
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Tattoos aren’t considered currency in this portion of the united States. And I believe clarrett never played another down of football for Ohio state. You point is what, exactly?
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The only cheating I’ve seen recently was the sugar bowl refs holding up the game so Alabama could substitute. Ohio state wasn’t afforded that luxury against Oregon.
Explain that one.
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Neither is tattoos in exchange for weed and signatures, but who said we had to use your idea of currency?
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“For weed and tattoos”..
Another one of those repetitive fallacies.
Sure, guns, wmds, whatever..
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Hold on…
I want to see the jackass that actually Pays for this memorabilia you speak of. Your problem is, you watch too much ESPN, and you actually believe everything they tell you…like the SEC is a tough conference… Pretty sure Indiana, Toledo, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Jacksonville state, Michigan state and Ohio state already proved that wrong.
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Hold on…
I want to see the jackass that actually Pays for this memorabilia you speak of. Your problem is, you watch too much ESPN, and you actually believe everything they tell you…like the SEC is a tough conference… Pretty sure Indiana, Toledo, Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Jacksonville state, Michigan state and Ohio state already dispelled that myth.
Oops! I forgot northwestern and Nebraska..
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Same ole Urban – full of shit.
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http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-athletics/2015/09/59799/the-conversation-between-jim-tressel-and-gene-smith-about-the-former-coachs-end-at-ohio
Same old SEC fans.
Bitter, classless and clueless.
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Do you people always come here to comment on things that you know nothing about?
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http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-athletics/2015/09/59799/the-conversation-between-jim-tressel-and-gene-smith-about-the-former-coachs-end-at-ohio
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