This seems fair.

If you wonder why I find the transfer system utter bullshit, here’s just another example.

Shameless.

A school ought to be penalized for doing that — if you block your graduate transfer, any graduate transfer you sign should be treated the same way.

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UPDATE:  Shamed.

I don’t understand why schools keep going through the farce.  Is it that they believe this time the kid won’t complain?

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44 responses to “This seems fair.

  1. The Truth

    Threaten to enact a rule that prohibited coaches from coaching for a year if they broke a contract to move somewhere else and see how quickly folks would fall in line to solve a lot of other problems.

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  2. Russ

    I see a new opportunity opening up at these schools – academic advisor that keeps the players in good standing while not quiiiiiiiite helping enough to graduate early.

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  3. Go Dawgs!

    Alabama should have tacked on some extra touchdowns on these jerks if you ask me.

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    • Go Dawgs!

      Oklahoma, the school that rode transfer quarterbacks Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray to Big 12 titles and CFP semifinal appearances, the school that is taking yet another quarterback from another school who has conference and national title wins and appearances on his resume, wants to block another quarterback from leaving town.

      Screw those guys.

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    • Macallanlover

      I’m with you, I gave the damn points, was up 28-0 in the 1st quarter and lost the bet as Saban ran the clock against a throwing machine like OU. I understand a rookie coach like Riley making that mistake against UGA, and us doing the same against Bama a week later in Kirby’s first year, but Saban has been around long enough to stomp them dead. It almost bit him in the butt, OU can light it up when they get rolling.

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  4. Debby Balcer

    This should not stand, his ability to play elsewhere should not be impeded. OU is so hypocritical in this stance especially because of the Baker Mayfield transfer and for looking at Hurts.

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  5. What a joke. When a kid graduates, he has fulfilled his commitment to his current school. They should be free to go wherever they want.

    Lincoln Riley, this is a losing proposition, and you look like a complete douche. Ask Nick about Mo Smith.

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    • Macallanlover

      Agree on grad transfers. Oklahoma is getting hammered by the media on this, and should. Big12 is the only conference that hasn’t revoked the non-compete for grad transfers. Of all schools, Oklahoma stopping a grad QB transfer. Betting they back off before tomorrow evening.

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  6. Ellis

    I thought the rules changed last year where a school can no longer block any schools to which a player wishes to transfer.

    I am curious about how schools are now going to start recruiting players on other teams.

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  7. TN Dawg

    Looks like Hurts transferred to OU.

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  8. TN Dawg

    I don’t really see the problem with OU blocking the transfer.

    We have established it’s all about pursuing your own interests in the NCAA, be it players, coaches, ADs or otherwise and have accepted that old, traditional thinking is antiquated. We have reasonably concluded that the whole “front of the jersey” bit is just a farce. It’s every man/team for themselves.

    So why would any of us blame OU for trying to keep a competitive advantage over a conference foe. The player doesn’t give a sht about his commitment to OU, why should OU give a sht about this ex-player.

    F*ck him, seems to be their attitude, and I agree with it. They don’t owe him anything once he decided to quit and go elsewhere.

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    • Reipar

      I could see your point except the player did not quit on his commitment. He fulfilled it by graduating.

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      • TN Dawg

        Interesting thought.

        Most here have conceded that the “student” part here is antiquated as well. I would consider filling his commitment to the school to be using all of his athletic eligibility, not obtaining a degree. The degree is the player’s payment (and apparently an unimportant, insubstantial one) from the school in exchange for playing ball.

        In this event, it appears the player has received what he was promised, a degree, and doesn’t want to deliver on his end of the bargain.

        Regardless, it doesn’t matter. It isn’t really about fair, it’s about a bunch of independent parties interested in the pursuance of their own interests. I’m sure if this player decided to take his graduate classes at North Dakota State instead of a conference opponent, the AD could find a way to waive the transfer holding period.

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        • Dawgwalker07

          That works until you phrase the agreement as, “You will come play football for us while you earn your degree.”

          His degree is earned. His commitment is fulfilled. It’s douchey to try to keep him there. It’s incredibly hypocritical for OU, and their history of accepting transfer quarterbacks (including right now), to suddenly prevent a quarterback from transferring.

          Just because the nature of the beast is “every man for himself” doesn’t make it justifiable or okay.

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        • Dawg in ATL

          Ah, I get it, you’re a troll.

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          • I don’t think he’s trolling…..I think the LARGER point is that somewhere (not necessarily in the transfer market) the University has the right to put its foot down and tell whomever to ***k off. We’ll certainly see how that ends up going with all the lawsuits, but I’m not going to pretend to know where such complex litigation stands or is headed. I don’t really care at this point–I probably won’t change the way I receive it unless the cost of getting it increases substantially.

            I do have a problem with some dismissing “the name on the jersey” as a major source of perceived value when I see Aaron Murray and Zach Mettenberger making $75,000 per year to play quarterback in the Alliance of American Football. 75k per year ? That sounds about like the value of a scholarship to me. I could have sworn Georgia was robbing them of the Eleventy-Billion they were “worth.”

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            • The issue with that logic is that people and things can be of higher value at specific time periods. Bitcoin was once worth more, Jerry Rice was once worth more, N64 games were once worth more. (these are all probably horrible examples, but just the quickest I could think of)

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            • If you’re comparing the value of the Alliance football league to the value of college football, you’re being disingenuous. If that league is a success, the salaries (especially for QBs) will go way up. They haven’t played a single game yet.

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    • Are you trying to get a job with Lincoln Riley?

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    • Former Fan

      It’s not like the NCAA and Oklahoma have broken the law in order to do this or anything either. I mean, our anti-trust laws just don’t apply to college sports. Amiright?

      If the playing field was level, and the players enjoyed a free market, I would agree with you. But the ground isn’t level, and the players are being colluded against, illegally. So yea, I care. And this case is a prime example of why the courts will eventually fix this if the NCAA doesn’t.

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      • TN Dawg

        I suppose the NCAA could change the rule, should they choose to. Of course non-graduate transfers will hit the court and wind up in front of a judge just the same.

        I’m sure it will happen eventually and those that have advocated for such will be able to enjoy the game with open rosters and the eventually salary battles that ultimately will arrive as well.

        Until then, let’s not pretend the Oklahoma is mean for pursuing their own interests while the player is simultaneously good for pursuing his own. Both parties are self-interested.

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        • Former Fan

          Let’s not pretend the schools are being hypocrits either. They have one rule for themselves and another for the kids. Given that, they are indeed being “mean”. If the rules were the same, I would agree with you but they are not.

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          • Former fan: In a nutshell, you nailed it with the rules comment. And if the player does not complain, school wins. It is 2019 though and most of these kids know the way to play the game.

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  9. Hunkering Hank

    I can envision a world where the total freedom to transfer exists. Then I see player “non-compete” agreements after that. Then comes the NCAA with its “blue pencil!” How exciting….

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  10. Scuba

    Sooner rather than later some attorney will find away to make a case stick against NCAA like they did in baseball. When Dave McNally and Andy Messersmith broke MLB and free agency was created. OU is pushing that date further along with this classless action.

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  11. Brandon M

    Hurts isn’t transferring to a team on Bama’s schedule next year… neither did Mayfield or Murray. We accepted Mo Smith with open arms but do you think for a second if Rodrigo wanted to kick for Alabama next year Kirby would just say “Absolutely, best of luck to you!” GTFO.

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    • PTC DAWG

      IF had graduated in 3 years, Kirby would have zero say.

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      • Russ

        Hot Rod HAS graduated and could transfer to Bama if he wanted to. Apparently Saban doesn’t like kickers, though. He’s never had a decent one for some odd reason.

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        • TN Dawg

          I hope Hot Rod doesn’t transfer to Bama.

          He could tip them off on all of our super-secret special teams fake kick formations.

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    • Silver Creek Dawg

      Mayfield did transfer to a team on the schedule, from Texas Tech to OU.

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    • Russ.

      Mayfield transferred from Texas Tech to OU and they play every year. Murray transferred from A&M and they used to play OU often. Not sure if they have lately, though.

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  12. Cousin Eddie

    Change the rule to were if a school blocks a transfer the player must start and play a min. of 51% of the snaps he is physically able to play at his position or the coach is suspended for the following year. If you want him bad enough then you have to play him basically calling the coaches bluff.

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  13. ApalachDawg

    I assume this is because wvu is in big12?

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    • Silver Creek Dawg

      Yup. As I understand it, if he was looking to go to a team in another conference, OU couldn’t do anything about it.

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  14. Dawg151

    In other OU news, their defense remains an actual transfer portal to the endzone.

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  15. spottieottie

    If the Rose Bowl taught me anything, it’s that OU has Tech-ian levels of little brother syndrome. Y’all, it’s the Rose Bowl. You don’t have to chant “Texas sucks” 200 times a game.

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  16. Doug

    So even as Oklahoma pursues a transfer QB who would almost certainly decrease Kendall’s chance at meaningful playing time, they’re trying to limit his meaningful playing time wherever else he might go. Isn’t that kind of like telling your GF that you want an open relationship, but one that’s open for you and not for her?

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  17. Yo Doug…..your GF is open to an immediate transfer, no matter what you splain to her now….

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  18. Mick Jagger

    Pandora’s Box has been opened. All kind of unintended consequences to follow.

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