Two noteworthy items from today’s Seth Emerson’s piece, inspired by Burton’s departure for (presumably) greener pastures ($$):
First, I love this quote from Terrence Edwards.
“I don’t think you necessarily have to have these gaudy stats to be thought of as a high draft pick,” said Edwards, pointing out that he himself wasn’t drafted. “But kids and parents love stats.”
Chicks will always dig the long ball.
Second, stats.
• Georgia is the first college football national champion since 2008 to not have a 1,000-yard rusher or receiver. (Florida that year was led in rushing by Tim Tebow with 673 yards, and in receiving by Louis Murphy with 655 yards.)
• Georgia this past season was also the first team in SEC history to gain at least 6,500 yards without a 1,000-yard rusher or 1,000-yard receiver.
The key points in each of those items perhaps being that a) Georgia won the national championship, and b) gained a healthy amount of yards (6,644, second most in the SEC and sixth most in the country).
That Todd Monken fella’s not too bad at his job.
Seth goes on to make another very good point about the offensive philosophies at Alabama and Georgia, respectively. It’s not just that ‘Bama emphasizes the pass more; they also concentrate touches with their top players considerably more than does Georgia. (Alabama’s top two receivers combined for 46% of the team’s total catches; Georgia’s, 31%.) If your top guys are that much studlier than the rest, that’s sensible, but as we saw in the national championship game, it can leave you exposed if those top guys can’t play.
The point here isn’t to criticize either coach’s approach. Obviously, there’s more than one way to skin a national championship cat. But maybe this makes it a little easier to understand Burton’s decision while also showing that Georgia’s offense may be built well enough to survive it. Or, to put it another way, I’ll sweat Monken’s departure, when it happens, a lot more than Burton’s.
In Todd we trust.
That doesn’t mean I believe we can go full Dopey/Goofy and ignore players (frankly, I think recruiting is one of the reasons Hankton may be in Red Stick now). If we have good players, I imagine Monken can get them in the right places to make plays.
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My understanding is that Hankton wants to be an OC and that ain’t happening at UGA.
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He isn’t going to be the OC there either.
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Yep, he would’ve had to go further down the competition ladder to land a job as an OC, then work his way back up by merit. Being given a coordinator job at a top P5 is unusual for a minority candidate. Ask Mel Tucker.
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Gonna jump in here because this has been explained to me before. He improves his chances of being an OC because all the smaller Louisiana schools often look to LSU when they need coordinators and there are more of them (Monroe, Lafayette, Tech, Tulane). Source–HS coach he previously coached college down there.
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another interesting way to think about burton’s future touches is that if he doesn’t crack the WR2 spot, he may wind up with LESS due to their distribtuion concentration.
he’s really bettin’ on hisself. lets see how it plays out
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Beat me to it
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There’s also the possibility that Saban took him for depth (he just lost a WR to the portal) and to keep him from going to Ole Miss.
Remember what Bear said about recruiting so many players… “they can’t beat you if they’re standing on your sideline”.
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UGA can afford to lose him.
UA cannot afford to not have him.
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Exactly. Williams, Metchie, and Slade Bolden have all declared for the draft. One of the TEs and another receiver just went to the portal.
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Correct. Bet Saban avoids the 2021 mistake and spreads the passes around more in 2022.
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Alabama’s got some dude’s over there… all they lack is experience. What would be truly funny to me is if Burton winds up finding himself as WR3 on the Bama depth chart come September and even fewer targets than he would’ve gotten as our bona fide WR1. Is that petty of me? Maybe. I’m appreciative of Jermaine’s contributions to UGA, but he’s no longer a Dawg, therefore I no longer care what kind of success he does or doesn’t have.
Grass ain’t always greener kids.
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I doubt he would be WR1 at UGA next season. He couldn’t keep the freshmen off the field, and with Brock getting X targets, well…
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If he was able to stay healthy I think he’d have a chance. I agree though Bowers is and will be our de-facto WR1 going forward as he should be. I think #2 in targets next year is AD Mitchell. He made some big strides this year and then of course you’ve got big 0, Ladd and perhaps even Gilbert if he’s gotten his issues sorted out. And here I am just realizing we should have a healthy Arian Smith, Dom Blaylock, and Rosemy-Jacksaint as well. We’re going to be just fine.
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And Kearis is coming back
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I’ll believe Blaylock makes another meaningful contribution when I see it. He has been basically out since December of 2019. I’m certainly pulling for him, but tenuous about counting that as reliable depth.
Rosemy needs to try and step in to Burton’s role, IMO. We’d be in high cotton if we could get that.
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I came here just now to post those two bullets in the comments.
They just reinforce what I wrote in the other post about Burton: I don’t care at all about him leaving or where he’s going. Best of luck to him, No I’ll will, but I won’t think about him once.
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It’s hard for me to say “no ill will.” I certainly don’t want to root against a young man and don’t blame him for what he’s doing. However, it’s ABSOLUTELY a storyline the big media will follow (the 2 current best programs, the hottest conference, the new’ish transfer rules)…..it does NOT do us any favors if he goes there and lights it up. I’m not saying it’d be some catastrophe, but we definitely don’t need that.
So I’ll say, I hope he gets drafted and has a really long and successful NFL career.
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This is just to say, when a player transfers out of Georgia, they are dead to me (in the “they don’t exist” realm), so I’d happily trade whatever success I should wish them for no drama on the homefront. Perfect example is Fields. If we could have avoided 2 years of infighting within the fanbase by him sucking at Ohio State, then that is what I wish. Because even the smallest thing benefiting Georgia is more important to me than anything non-Georgia. Even the mental health of my fellow dawg fans.
Sorry not sorry.
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We definitely rotate WRs too much for my liking but you also have to account for the injuries this year. Pickens, Burton, etc. probably have a much higher percentage if they were healthy the majority of the year.
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Seth also identified the “calling off the dogs” factor. We got ahead by so much in most games this year that the playcalling became a lot more conservative in the 3rd and 4th quarters. There’s just no doubt that if the starters had be more aggressive against Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, etc., they would have compiled a lot better individual numbers. I’d say 10-15% better for the key players (Bennett, Bowers, Mitchell, Burton, Cook, White).
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But it’s like what do you do ? I don’t want any of them tearing an ACL when we’re up by 28 with 7 minutes left.
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I’m surprised that no one has noted that Ladd’s SECCG TD and Brock’s NCG TD were basically identical plays just with different formations.
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They were both thrown left and behind the LOS. Otherwise, there isn’t any comparison to make.
Ladd’s was a tunnel screen from an empty set. Three OL released and got in front.
Bowers was off a p/a fake. No OL released. Bowers had to beat 10 one on one.
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Well I never have been an Xs and O’s guy. 😉
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Not trying to take anything away from Monken or the players, but the rankings change a little when you look at them on a per game basis. Just in the SEC, Ole Miss and Tennessee are behind us in total offensive yards on the season, but they’re both ahead of us in offensive yards per game. We’re helped in the total offense category by the fact that we played two more games than either of them did. But we won the Natty and they didn’t and I’ll take that every year.
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Cool.
Now do offensive yards per play.
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Touche.
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15 – Love
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I really wish one of you info and stat dudes could figure out a way to rank and compile all these for just quarters 1-3.
Cause we just running out the clock in most games during number 4
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I did find yesterday that UGA was 4th Nationally in 1st Quarter Scoring. Always good to get out to quick starts.
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That is a massive stat, considering “the narrative.”
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“non garbage time” stats are what you’re looking for.
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As someone who finds the constant rotation maddening, particularly when we have big MO and the defense on its heels, it does have benefits….
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I find winning wonderful, Kirby has done a ton of that in Athens..
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I agree with Bluto on his Monken comments…hope he stays…say what you want about offense by committee, but it got the job done for the 2021 season.
The sans 1000 yd receiver & RB stat is pretty interesting…and we still delivered. Especially when you consider how injures plagued us throughout the season.
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A Team Natty Baby ! ! So many rivals and talking heads are butt hurt that we won it without a true, year-long media darling on the roster.
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I’m assuming the offensive stat includes the postseason which means we have 2 more games than all except teams that played in conference championships. And one more game than all but Bama.
I think that Monken is the man, but we also have the tendency to shut it down offensively at halftime and RTDB 40 times in a row which is less appealing for elite WRs Burton is one. This will only be a factor against the Alabama’s of college football.
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A couple of things….
Pickens probably would have been a 1000+ yard WR this year. Bama leans on their elite WRs hard, and we would too. We built our offense around what we had and Bama built their offense around what they had. Both were excellent.
Monken is the most important piece for Kirby to keep. The guy knows his stuff and allows Kirby to leave the offense alone. Sort of Venables for Dabo.
I think Monken wants an offense that forces the defense to “pick your poison”, and when you do he’s going to burn you.
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Very interesting stats. I think this points to Monken’s philosophy more than any player limitations. I thought we did a good job all season of spreading the ball around on offense which keeps individual stats down. We saw the same thing on defense with the heavy rotation of players. Obviously, there’s some recency bias from the NC, but I like this approach as I think it allows you to account for injuries and to shift focus between run and pass depending on what the other team is giving you.
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Could see Pickens drafted higher than Bamas 2 WRs despite his minimal stats. Nfl already knows who they want regardless.
Schedule Matchups & Depth. We lost Burton this season & didn’t miss a beat. We also had Pickens & Blaylock out because our schedule allowed for their timely return. Bama is in the Air Raid SEC West needs all the depth they can get to run those shootout gauntlet. Next season our sched even better & our WRs & TEs even more experienced than the Natty year. How bout that!
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It will be fascinating to see where Pickens goes in the draft. I think he’s got the most outstanding body control and hands I’ve seen live. But his top end speed doesn’t seem to be the same as other first rounders. I hope that he’s going to go very high and play for a long time. I love that kid, his competitive spirit and willingness to do anything and everything to help his team whether it’s blocking or catching a ball or just rehabbing out of the spotlight is inspirational to me.
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AJ Green is still the best total package as a receiver I’ve ever seen in person. Pickens is a really good player, but he would still be WR2 if he had been on campus at the same time as AJ.
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Yeah. I have seen him as high as 18th overall and as low as a late second rounder or high third rounder. Wouldn’t surprise me though if he went late in the first round to someone so that they have the relatively cheap fifth year option available before he gets paid if he pans out.
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It will be interesting to see if Alabama sticks with the approach of focusing the offense on one or two receivers after seeing the offense complete disappear when those players are injured. They just took a fourth quarter beatdown from a team with a diversified offense that hits the open man, I wonder if they’ll go back to a more even distributed approach to get more weapons ready. If so, Burton may find himself in the same position that he was in here.
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I liked Burton when he was here. I’m sad to see him go. He has talent, and he’ll probably be successful. But, I hope he fails miserably. It isn’t personal and it has nothing to do with his transfer. I hope all Bama players fail miserably. Florida players, Auburn players, etc. I hope they all fail. I hope they miss all of their extra points and all of their passes fall incomplete. I hope their punter shanks it so badly that it lands in the stands. I hope they fumble every carry, and I hope they never make another tackle (Tennessee is accommodating that request). I hope they miss their return flights. I hope their lettuce is recalled and their bread is stale. I hope their coffee is a little too weak… not so weak that you brew a new batch, but just weak enough to not really like it. That’s the beauty of college football fandom. I hope they feel the same way about my team.
Btw, I hope above all else they remember that Georgia is the reigning National Champion of college football.
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My Dawg!
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I typically wish guys well when they leave UGA and I do hope that Burton will be successful in football and life and make a lot of money in the NFL. It is difficult for me to wish him well at Alabama, though, because you’re right – Alabama’s success is necessarily to Georgia’s detriment. If Burton wanted me to remain a Burton fan next year then he would have needed to go somewhere he wouldn’t face Georgia. And certainly not to a rival type program.
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Damn, that was eloquent!
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Yeah, Kirby and his staff spread the wealth so the Burtons and Jermaine Johnsons get separated from those willing to share.
I see it as a double edged sword. It shows recruits that they can play and keeps players healthy-ish and builds depth. The down side is it obviously runs guys off which can undermine the pros. All of this somewhat highlights how Saban and Bama have sustained so well. They seem to be better at getting some guys to come back for another year and they’re highly successful in the portal. The next year or two will show if Kirby can do the same or if we’ll fall off like other programs have.
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Is it the name “Jermaine” that leads to someone not be willing to share?
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So competing philosophies, UGA sped the rock around to players A,B,C,D, and E or more. Bama A and B and maybe C. So, A or B or both get injured and you kind of screwed. Max performance versus better prepared next man up.
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Everyone is forgetting that the guys up front were making life miserable for Bryce Young. He could have had Jerry Rice and Tony Gonzalez running patterns but he was busy running for his life. If he can’t throw it, they can’t catch it. Alabama’s passing game went to crap because of pressure not because Bama lacked receivers.
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Burton can go take a long walk off a short bridge. Fuck him and the people in his inner circle. That young man is getting horrible advice.
To be clear, he and Kimber can go fuck themselves.
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” Georgia is the first college football national champion since 2008 to not have a 1,000-yard rusher or receiver. (Florida that year was led in rushing by Tim Tebow ….”
This paragraph led me to a mind boggling thought: if Bennett wins another Natty, but fails in the pros, do he and Tebow end up on a college football TV show together in the future?
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I would like to take this opportunity to remind people that in college, Drew Brees was a 60% passer (accuracy) with about 7 YPA and 2-1 TD to INT ratio.
I will follow that up with a statement I have made before – I believe Bennett has more NFL upside than Tim Tebow.
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I personally like that we spread the ball down the depth chart. I know guys like Jermaine who want to be the guy don’t love it but it’s nice to have a guy ready to make plays if the first two guys on your depth chart go down.
In other words, I’m glad we’re not the team making excuses this offseason.
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Hey Burton, I hope the door hit you square in the ass when you left.
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Doesn’t Georgia use the running back by committee as a recruiting selling point – keep those legs fresh for the NFL years?
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Yup. And look what that for Bama when their top two pass catches got injured…….it got them beaten. I’ll take Monken and his propensity to spread the ball around over a couple of superstars any day.
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A Saturday Down South story shows Kearis Jackson just announced his return. Doesn’t he know he can’t improve staying at Georgia? A healthy Jackson coming back to catch passes and return punts is huge to the offense. Burton is going to regret his decision as much as the ones who left last year regret not having a national champs ring!
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he won a Natty (check the box) now he (Burton) is going where he THINKS he will be a featured WR in a potent offense with a Heisman trophy winner. Not sure he has taken into account the talent they have and what is coming in but I see the logic
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