Pay the man

Don’t try this stunt at home, kids.

Last week, I chatted with Athliance CEO Peter Schoenthal about a few different NIL related topics for Collegiate Sports Connect. Early in that conversation, Schoenthal mentioned something I’ve suspected, but haven’t confirmed. He believes a lot of college athletes aren’t disclosing NIL deals to their compliance departments.

“I’m at the NCAA Convention, and I’m talking a bunch of SAAC (Student Athlete Advisory Council) athletes, and I ask them if they’re disclosing deals. And they’re like…, ‘No.’ And when I ask why not, the answer blew my mind. They said that if we disclose the deals, we’ll have to pay taxes on them. If we don’t disclose, we don’t have to pay taxes on them. And that broke my heart.”

If that’s your game, either you’re getting spectacularly bad advice or you’re letting greed get in the way of reality, because there’s no way you’re going to be able to hide something like that very long.  And when it comes to light, it won’t be pretty.

Individual schools are unlikely to take punitive actions against their own athletes for breaking NIL team policies. The NCAA may not be able to do it either. But the IRS absolutely can. They will not hesitate to slap some major fines on an athlete who didn’t realize that the NIL deal that gave him a new truck also gave him a new taxable asset.

“I do think April 15 is going to be a scary day for a lot of student-athletes, and a lot of people are going to be put on some payment plans going forward,” Schoenthal told me.

Still, in a world where we see college athletes routinely get stopped for expired driver’s licenses, I won’t be surprised at word of the first tax bust.  I only hope Kirby’s on this particular mother with his team.

Matt goes on to highlight a different practice that may have more troubling implications.  And in this case, it ain’t the kids.

Take Horns With Heart, for example. This collective raises money, and then pairs that money to pay athletes to participate in NIL deals with charities. You may have heard of one of those deals, the Pancake Factory, which gives all participating Texas offensive linemen $50,000 to “to make charitable appearances and bring awareness to worthy causes that impact their local communities.” I’m told collectives supporting athletes at other schools are exploring similar models as well.

On its website, Horns With Heart says the organization is a non-profit organization and further identifies itself as a charity. It is unclear if the organization has filed as a 501c3, although there are plenty of typical logistical reasons for why a filing might not show up on a website yet. Horns With Heart did not respond to an email and voicemail requesting clarification.

I am not saying Horns With Heart is breaking any rules here. But I do know some accounting experts have concerns about this particular collective model.

I reached out to Brian Mittendorf, a professor at The Ohio State University who studies accounting practices of non-profits.

“I guess the big catch here is…directly funding students, by itself, isn’t a charitable purpose. You can raise money for student scholarships, and that could be a charitable purpose…but you couldn’t exist as a charity with only the function of funding students.

“In order to keep a 501c3 status, you, as a charity, have to have a charitable purpose. Doing an NIL deal, almost by definition, isn’t a charitable purpose; that’s a market exchange.”

Theoretically, if the IRS or another government regulatory body agreed with that thinking, it could investigate an NIL collective.

Potentially, how serious could that be?  I’m not sure.

Mittendorf told me that while the IRS does have purview over the incorporation status of non-profits, and it does have the ability to audit charities to make sure they’re actually operating for charitable purposes, most of these investigations would happen at the state level. “You’re much more likely to see action by state attorneys general than the IRS on a lot of these questions,” he said.

Yeah, good luck with a state attorney general opening a can of investigative whoop ass on a booster program benefiting State U’s football program.  Still, stranger things have indeed happened…

Let’s just say there are still a few kinks to be worked out.

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70 responses to “Pay the man

  1. Anon

    Life lessons—-taxes suck. Now go vote.

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    • jcdawg83

      The players are going to especially love the lesson of paying taxes on the value of the car given to them or even the value of the use of the car when they don’t get actual cash.

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    • 81Dog

      But but but…. THAT WAS HOW IT WORKED WITH BAGMEN. WE TAKE THE MONEY, WE DON’T TELL NOBODY, WE DON’T PAY TAXES!

      I’m sure Eric Dickerson declared all his booster supplied income, for example. I’m all for kids making income on their own NIL, but tax fraud is a felony. All the bagman schemes to avoid not just the NCAA, but also the IRS? OOOPS. Got to pay your fair share, just like everyone else.

      Surely schools are trying to educate players on the right way to do things.

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  2. Great post. This would be a fun HBO series – Friday Night Lights meets Billions.

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  3. Some of us got made fun of when asking about how all of this was going to work at tax time. I really hope Josh has engaged the excellent tax faculty at the Tull School along with some tax partner alumni at the firms to help athletes across the spectrum navigate this.

    When the IRS shows up, it typically isn’t to exchange pleasantries and maximize your tax refund.

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    • Some of us got made fun of when asking about how all of this was going to work at tax time.

      No, the snark was directed at the suggestion that NIL was bad for the kids because (gasp!) they’d have to pay taxes on their compensation.

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    • jcdawg83

      It isn’t the university’s job to make sure students pay their taxes properly.

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      • It is if the school doesn’t want to be embarrassed by the association — or worse, risk said student athlete being suspended for breaking the law.

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        • jcdawg83

          I’ve never seen a school take steps to make sure faculty and other school employees taxes are paid properly. I guess they are only worried about being embarrassed by athletes taking money from boosters not paying their taxes. They haven’t jumped over hurdles to avoid embarrassment from athletes being caught with drugs or breaking other laws.

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      • No, because these deals have nothing to do with the university.

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        • Down Island Way

          Did UGA speak to NIL deals allowing the usage of apparel, signage, pictures or anything associated with UGA, if that’s true, then the Institution is kinda’ sorta’ involved…#CAUSEI’MTHETAXMAN…

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  4. wts1976

    I’m a CPA, not a non-profit expert, but knowleadgable. Since the Horns for Hearts or whatever they call it came about, my initial thought was that they are going to have substaniate that $50,000 is “market” compensation for the charity appearances. This is similar to putting your kids on payroll for your company and paying them $1,000 a month to take the trash out. If you were examined, they would highly likely dissallow the deduction.

    Any funds contribited would also be in line with the not for profit’s core purpose or the money contributed for those purposes could be viewed as taxable income to the not for profit. Is it an entity to support college football players or to provide appearances by “celebrities” at hospital or fundraising events.

    Maybe IRS agents are college football fans in general and they’ll look the other way…….

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    • I don’t imagine an Aggie alumni or fan as IRS agent will look the other way.

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    • Got Cowdog

      I’m curious… Can Horns for Hearts could 1099 the individual players for the 50k?

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      • jcdawg83

        It seems to me like they will have to if they want to write off the $50K paid to each player. The whole idea of “we don’t have to pay taxes if we don’t tell” is comically naïve.

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      • miltondawg

        Yes. They should file a form 1099. Even if they didn’t, any payments made whether a 501(c)(3) or other charitable organization would be disclosed on schedules to their tax returns just like any for profit business that itemizes similar payments (with SSNs or FEINs) on their tax returns to use as a deduction.

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  5. 79dawg

    Seriously, the IRS is basically gutted and lacks the ability to do a whole lot at the moment. The odds of a material audit have never been lower. And that is particularly true if these kids have no other income (i.e., they aren’t working second jobs and getting W-2s) and thus aren’t filing returns anyway….

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    • When Nick Saban says that Bryce Young has $1m NIL deal, I imagine someone at the IRS will make sure Mr. Young files a return with a payment of taxes due on April 18.

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      • fisheriesdawg

        If the IRS doesn’t, someone active on Auburn message boards will. This stuff that is high profile is going to get a spotlight regardless of what the IRS wants to do. When someone shows proof that the Heisman front runner is evading taxes, their hands will be forced.

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    • jcdawg83

      When the 1099s start showing up with tens of thousands of dollars paid to the players for their sponsorship deals, I can assure you the IRS will find the time to look into it. The businesses paying these NIL payments are certainly going to want to write them off as advertising and promotional expenses.

      Ask any independent contractor who gets paid 1099 income how it would work to simply not file a return.

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      • Got Cowdog

        I have been there and that’s why I asked the question. Way back in my early twenties I moved from a salaried position to being an independent. I ‘knew” there would be some tax ramifications but I didn’t really “know” until I turned my 1099’s in to the accountant. THAT was a straight up kick in the balls. I had to borrow money to pay that year, then hold back enough to pay the upcoming year. It took a bit to get it squared away and it was painful.

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        • SenorLorenzo

          I had the same exact experience in my 20’s. I think that’s what they call the school on hard knocks 😂

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        • jcdawg83

          I had the same experience in my early 30s when I changed jobs. Paying both sides of FICA was eye opening to say the least. I had expenses to help with the income tax side but FICA brought tears to my eyes.

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          • SenorLorenzo

            As I posted earlier, me too. Yet, some have implied on here, “move along, nothing to see”. As if $500 payments for referrals, $1M endorsements, and all amounts in between, to at least hundreds, if not a few thousands, 18-22 yr old college kids at the mercy of the federal and state govts. won’t at least initially result in some very painful lessons? However, as some have pointed out, hopefully the universities themselves, as well as concerned others, will help these young folks stay out of that kind of financial trouble in the long run.

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  6. thenewandimprovedtronan

    My employer has sponsored a financial literacy program for high school kids for several years. I think I’m going to alert the folks in charge that there’s a five alarmer at SAAC that needs putting out right quick.

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    • jcdawg83

      If your employer is paying someone $50,000 a year to teach the financial literacy classes to the high school kids I can assure you your employer is writing off that pay and is issuing a 1099 to the instructor.

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  7. Geezus

    I think that a state like Texas (with several rival schools) would be the most likely to have a state attorney dive-in. All it would take would be a UT state attorney and A&M with a creative charity.

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  8. pdawg30577

    The guy lost me quoting an expert from “THE Ohio State University.” Nobody needs to be humoring that shit, man.

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  9. ASEF

    Given the number of commercials on sports radio hawking “we’ll clean up your IRS mess for you” services, it just gives fans something in common with the players beyond the jersey. Win!

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  10. Godawg

    Love to see some of the faces when they get the tax bill. “Say what?” Welcome to the real world. 🙂

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  11. row105

    WOW, couldn’t see this coming even in my wildest dreams because complexity NEVER generates fraud.( yea I yelled to make a sarcastic point, so what). If we can quickly find this many issues/problems guess how many more there are that our tiny,uninvolved and limited minds have missed. O well, it’s progress and if you’re opposed to progress you’re mean old man so just go along and STFU. This new system of NIL and transfer portal is what economists call “creative destruction” but they are never quite bright enough to tell us exactly what is being created and what is being destroyed. I think I know but I’m a mean old man so I’ll just STFU.

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  12. godawgs1701

    The current IRS commissioner is a graduate of UCLA so Lincoln Riley better make sure his house is in order. LOL

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  13. SenorLorenzo

    I saw this coming from a mile away. Yet, even if a kid does openly acknowledge his tax liability, it’s still another thing to voluntarily take the necessary portion of that income and immediately put it somewhere for later submitting quarterly IRS/State tax payments. They’re not employees of these entities providing the NIL money, so they will be 1099’d and thus no automatic deductions are being done. They’re receiving the full amount and are therefore fully responsible themselves alone for FICA, Fed, and state tax withholdings. My guess is that the vast majority of these kids have absolutely no concept as to how taxes work, nor the consequences of being negligent and/or not really caring, unless someone really steps in to guide them. Hopefully, someone within each university athletic department will be on top of this, but if the athlete doesn’t disclose it, then there’s gonna be a problem as the blog points out. Also, as I somewhat already pointed out, NIL contributors are gonna be motivated to disclose the payment via a 1099 to keep their own butts out of a sling with the IRS for paying kids illegally under the table, even if the athlete wants to keep it hush.

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    • rigger92

      I believe the lions share of “real money” NIL deals are actually run through a management firm between player and payer. I also have to think that the management firm is handling things like taxes, withholding, and of course making sure the athlete gets paid. I doubt any high earner will just be hung out without support.

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    • Gaskilldawg

      Congratulations for ” seeing from a mile away” that income from endorsements is taxable. Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back.

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      • SenorLorenzo

        What I saw coming wasn’t that income was taxable but rather that tons of 1099’d income being thrown at college kids was going to at least initially be a significant tax problem. I thought that was pretty clear in my post, but thanks anyway for your advice.

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        • Gaskilldawg

          So you were really bragging that you could forsee that payors for services would send 1099s to those they paid? Or you are bragging that you could forsee that self employed people sometimes have not paid in enough quarterly to cover the tax bill?

          I will give you credit for real crystal ball stuff there.
          You may wish to advise law students and businesses students to not open practices and businesses because they will have to pay taxes on self employment income.

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          • SenorLorenzo

            I guess I should be bragging about my reading comprehension skills since it appears that might not be as easy for some as I would have a previously assumed.

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      • junkyardawg41

        I always thought the tax implication discussion was a false flag. While there will be issues, I don’t think it will impact all that many.

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  14. SenorLorenzo

    This should also open up the conversation about the recruiting advantage that programs within states without state taxes will now have over programs within states that do.

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  15. So college students are going to have to learn to understand contracts, manage money, pay taxes and seek advice when needed. Oh the inhumanity!

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    • Gaskilldawg

      When I was a college student in the 1970s working jobs my coworkers and I had to pay taxes and we new it. When did college students no longer work and earn taxable income so they now have to learn?

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  16. Forgot to add…any post with SRV at the top is an excellent post!

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  17. Harold Miller

    What in the Willie Nelson are they teaching these kids? I can foresee a kid looking for an extra year of eligibility to pay his tax bill.

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  18. mg4life0331

    I thought the kids at universities were all shouting for people to pay their fair share?

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  19. junkyardawg41

    The under the table NIL deals will eventually work out. The IRS won’t focus on the “kids” but rather the organizations providing the NIL deals. Penalties and disestablishment of organizations will force all NIL deals to be above board. Which will lead to return of the bagmen — because how many athletes were investigated for failure to report taxable income from bagmen. In essence, you are going to create a dual system — one will be a legal method of earning money off of NIL –e.g. Bryce Young and Tuscaloosa BMW and one where Johnny Bagman pays money under the table. The duality of the emerging system will actually put a legal facade/plausibility on X Player having $50,000 in his pocket while only getting $10,000 in NIL.

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    • miltondawg

      Hadn’t thought of that before. Plenty of boosters over the decades didn’t get the benefit to the payer of the NIL but didn’t care enough not to have the cash delivered to the players.

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  20. unionjackgin

    If a booster/business owner/company decision-maker is risking IRS penalties to pay college athletes under the table NIL deals without giving the athlete the 1099 then the company deserves the embarrassment and penalties associated with the indiscretion.

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  21. W Cobb Dawg

    The post is slanted towards all the responsibilities being the onus of the player. Form 1099 needs to be submitted on all these payments exceeding something like $2 grand. The party issuing the funds had better have their ducks in a row too.

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  22. waterswv

    The IRS has 75,000 employees, which sounds like a lot. But then you learn that it’s roughly the exact same number it was in the 1970’s. The tax code and electorate have both grown a tad bit since then. There are 20 million backlogged returns currently due to covid. Not sure Horns with Hearts are going to rise to the investigation need at the Fed level…

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  23. uga97

    If It come in a mcdonalds bag, it counts as feeding hungry, thus charitable.

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  24. Joe Blow

    Jesus H. Christ. Whatever happened to education? How stupid can people be? I knew I had to pay taxes when I was 15 years old and had a hot, terrible summer job. Are kids today this coddled, entitled and downright dumb? “If we don’t disclose, we don’t have to pay taxes.” Well fuck them. Grow the hell up. Follow the gd law.

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  25. Gaskilldawg

    Why? Would you love to see the face of a young, self employed builder when he gets his first tax bill? Would you love to see the face of the self employed lawnmower repair guy when he got his first tax bill?
    I don’t understand the voyeurism.

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  26. CB

    Perhaps this will lead to a high profile college athlete doing us all the service of being the face of a renewed movement to abolish the real enemy here which is inarguably the IRS.

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