Easily my favorite part of this Jeff Schultz cri de coeur — and, man, does he sound bitterly disappointed — over Georgia’s decision not to suspend Natrez Patrick and Roquan Smith for, um… not violating Georgia’s drug policy is this one-liner:
Neither failed a drug test (according to Georgia).
Jeez, talk about disillusionment. If you can’t trust Greg McGarity any more, whom can you trust?
Amazing leap of logic to reconcile “Welcome to the new world” with Jonathan Ledbetter’s six-game suspension. I know, I know, forget it, he’s on a roll.
I hate that guy. I hate lecturing elites in general and for some reason, this guy believes himself to be a “grade A” elite.
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I wouldn’t put “Jeff Schultz” and “elite” in the same area code, much less the same sentence.
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Someone needs to order a Code Red on Jeff Schultz.
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I know (hope) this was in jest but with all that’s going on in the world right now this comment isn’t great.
That being said, I think Jeff Schultz is a self-ritcheous, meme-repeating, click-bait machine.
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Point taken, Spence.
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what exactly is “going on in the world” that so concerns you?
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Sure, everything is just marvelous. And moving in a great direction Peace and love to all the world. LMAO at that assessment.
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“I know (hope) this was in jest but with all that’s going on in the world right now this comment isn’t great.”
Make GTP Great Again
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GTP is great because it is good.
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I’ve always felt that the claims of the AJC having it out for UGA was a bunch of hot air, but Schultz’s last 2 columns on the Dawgs definitely lend the theory some credibility.
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He’s not the only one to pile on. Most of the blogs and beat writers are doing the same thing. Lead with the “UGA not suspending the two players” in the headline then explaining why in the body. We have made our bed with these hacks and now we just have to expect they will be who they are, hacks.
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So the cops decided to lie about these football players? The RA and the cops lied about the smell of weed and there was no weed. Doubtful.
Or they WERE were smoking weed AND then passed a drug test. Doubtful.
Or the drug test they passed was a while ago and no one made them take one this week in which case CKS is in charge and the AD/Pres. have been neutered. Probable.
I know Schultz is an asshat, but something is amiss here.
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Cops always smell weed or alcohol on the breath.
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Correct, never admit anything..
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+100
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“Suspect’s eyes were glazed/glassy” and “detected the smell of alcohol on his breath / smell of marijuana in the air” should just be printed at the top of every police report so they don’t have to go to the trouble of writing it…
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Lol. Sad but true.
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Easiest probable cause in existence. Also “heard/saw suspicious activity”.
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Oh yes, let’s all pretend to be shocked that the smell of weed might be present somewhere in a college dorm…
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in my days at Russell Hall, we jammed towels under the door and smoked a lot of cigarettes. In this instance, the cops managed to find all the other weed items but not the weed. Seems like it wasn’t for lack of searching. Could it be possible that they weren’t smoking pot?
I know, I know, your uncle is a cop and my suggestion that cops sometimes say they smell or see shit they don’t is offensive to you and your family and all of police everywhere from now until eternity
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So….no possession, no arrest, no lack of cooperation with police, no failed test equals “UGA should have suspended them”.
Look, do I think they probably smoked a little? Sure. But it was a small enough amount that they could get rid of it and still beat a test.
If they failed the test and they still wanted to have them play, they would have buried the results like the one that Crow failed in 2011 and then suspend them the following week.
I honestly believe that they were smoking, but that they legitimately passed the test too.
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Chalk one up for the process. The Georgia way would have had them suspended the next day. No doubt.
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Bingo!
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Nothing is ever going to change his attitude towards the Dawgs, so why not just kick back and enjoy whatever frustrated outrage that this news is causing him? A little schadenfreude never hurt anyone during football season 🙂
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I don’t click on AJC articles for this reason, besides you can get all the news from other sites. The Senator here, Bulldawgs Illustrated, BerniesDawg Blog, as well as the Macon and Athens papers get you everything.
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Have to call BS on Schultz. The fact that the cops got called to a dorm where football players live proves the Georgia Way is still in full effect. Didn’t McGaritys statement say they were tested as well. I also don’t believe Kirby has built that kind of clout to circumvent the policy assuming he would as Schultz says.
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First, I will be cheering my team on in Jacksonville and hope UGA can somehow win. That said I want to know what is not accurate regarding Schiltz’s article. Can you guys tell me? Already we have had 2 instances(Julian Rochester) where the evidence seems reasonably clear where we have blessed athletes with getting away with potential criminal issues. That makes me feel really dirty. Already a strong message is being sent not only to the fans, but also the players that UGA no longer wants to develop adults into citizens, we ONLY want to win games. My opinion and it may not be popular but that’s my thoughts.
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Rochester has a drinking problem. Coach got him help before he hurt himself or someone else. He sat the amount of time required by the student handbook. College students smoking the devil’s lettuce keeps them from becoming (good) citizens? Pahleeze…
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You’re thinking of Ledbetter
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Ledbetter was the drinker. Get your facts right.
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Who are the victims in these criminal issues you mention?
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Whether there is a victim or not isn’t relevant. If all victimless violations of the law weren’t prosecuted or fined what would that say about the law?
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No victim, no crime….who was aggrieved here?
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“Potential criminal issues”
The kid smoked some weed and shot a BB gun. OH MY GOD, WE’VE GOT TO GET HIM HELP!!! If we don’t put a stop to his reckless behavior now, he might go on to do something really reckless, like become President of the United States…!!!
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A strong message that UGA doesn’t want to develop its players into citizens? Because a couple of kids didn’t smoke pot UGA is now, in your mind, the functional equivalent of a drug dealer, or worse a crime factory?
I’d suggest you calm down a little. These kids HAVE to go to every class, get up and practice at 5am, wear suits before games, get lectured on every aspect of their lives, and on the whole leave UGA grown ass men unlike most kids who fuck around in college for 5 years and barely scrape by.
I don’t think you understand how kids work.
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Possible / probable / almost certain.
Jeff convicted them based on the nasal capacities of an officer, a female RA, and the visual observations of the officer.
But let’s just throw that negative drug test, sorry, two of them, in the dumpster.
Every attorney in the state took note of Jeff.
Strike the potential juror, Jeff, from the list.
Jeff is a bitter man.
Jeff and the AJC hate everything about UGA.
If Jeff is a juror, all evidence does not matter, just what he thinks does. In other words, Jeff reads the AJC while and juror and votes to find guilty.
Thank you Jeff.
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Every cop in the world claims they can find shake ANYWHERE, and could have arrested you for MUCH MORE SERIOUS STUFF.
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“Richt didn’t take the bait. He once again took the opportunity to defend the drug policy, which calls for a one-game suspension for a first offense, and four-game suspension for a second offense.
“I’ll stump a little bit,” Richt said as he got off his chair.
“I don’t want our guys to smoke marijuana. I don’t want our guys to do anything illegal. I don’t want our guys to do anything that they shouldn’t be doing. So when you have policies that have a lot of teeth to it … The No. 1 thing our guys want is what? They want playing time. Well if I take that away from them, then that might teach the lesson a little bit better than not. You know what I’m saying?
“Sometimes people say, well you don’t have any control of the team because you’ve got guys suspended. No, we gain control and we keep control of the team through suspending people because that’s how we discipline, that’s how we punish. … If you’ve got a kid who’s not behaving the way you want, you’re gonna take away what they want the most, because you’re gonna stick ’em.”
He added soon afterwards: “That’s how we go about it. I’m not gonna apologize for it.”
Richt finished by reiterating that he wished other programs had the same drug policy, but not by Georgia changing its own.
“I’d love if everybody had the same level playing ground. That would be great. But I don’t think we should go towards them to get a level playing field. I’d rather they come to us.””
I’m gonna miss this attitude.
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Bro, he buried failed drug test before Florida in 2011 to get Crow and Thomas eligible to save his job.
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Rumors of manipulation aside would that mean he wants his players to smoke marijuana?
This is the kid that was removed the next time he messed up right?
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http://www.mdjonline.com/sports/sources-crowell-flunked-drug-test/article_3c7c0ab4-2eeb-51d2-8032-161c1fabcccd.html
Tested on Wednesday, rumors of failed test were rampant Friday, but results weren’t received until the following Tuesday. Ok.
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I like the attitude, but the upright citizen brigade consolation prize we took home at the end of each loss didn’t do much for me. Not saying the policy affected the losses, but I’m not shedding any tears over us not sticking it to kids for smoking weed.
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Not to mention losing out on a few recruits maybe indulged from time to time yet still were at a level of fitness most of us never even approach.
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What do you want them to “stick it to the kids for?”
Do we want to coaches to be like parents, buddies, personal trainers or overseers?
It seems to me that the coaches have an obligation to these kids to make them better men than would be otherwise. The coaches should ensure that the campus is not unsafe because of the players they’ve brought onto campus. They have an obligation to ensure that the team members represent the school well at all times. They should ensure that the players have respect for the position they hold: a very public representative of a proud institution of higher learning.
If we do all of that then we can worry about wins and losses.. If you want wins from a bunch of dope smoking disrespectful morons who threaten public safety then IMHO youre an asshole and I’d like you to realize that you’re a closet auburn fan and proceed accordingly.
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“If we do all of that then we can worry about wins and losses.. If you want wins from a bunch of dope smoking disrespectful morons who threaten public safety”
Yea thats exactly what I meant. 😉
Can we dial it back a bit to some sort of moderate mid position without being called an asshole? Jeeze man. I realize that kids aren’t perfect and make mistakes without “being morons who threaten public safety.” I feel that the public scrutiny on this issue is excessive and I’ll stick with that. I don’t think this makes me the equivalent of a win at any cost Auburn fan. you can accuse me otherwise, that’s fine. Go Dawgs.
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What do you want them to “stick it to the kids for?”. I don’t..that’s what I get for double negatives.
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And and I’m saying is that you can pay more than lip service to issues of maturity and discipline without “sticking it to the kids.” I’m simply not willing to exchange permissiveness for trophies. I think you can win doing things the right way and if you can’t I’ll accept not winning. I believe that’s true in life and in football.
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I completely agree. I want to win big and do it the right way. Kirby said as much in his press conference when he took the job and was asked that question about the drug policy. Just as I trusted the previous guy to mete out discipline for University and team policy violations, I trust Kirby will get the facts and make a decision in the best interest of the young man and for the program.
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I don’t think its as black and white as exchanging permissiveness for trophies, and I’ll leave it at that and move on.
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How is the view from up that HIGH?
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Yeah, I’m really gonna miss him grandstanding about his own moral superiority and hiding behind his faith every time him or one of his players did something stupid…
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Hey! ajc! Leave them kids alone.
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Does it seem like articles such as this one get written only when its a “kick em’ when their down” situation?
If its a choice between reading the “Kirby Smart to soft” article vs. a “Richt suspends players, has lost control of team” I’ll take the former any day.
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Georgia should suspend Jeff Schultz’s press credentials for the rest of the season. If Jeff Schultz wants to advocate for the suspension of two players with no evidence of wrong doing other than the alleged smell of marijuana, he should be informed that he is no longer welcome until he goes to some remedial classes on basic fairness in journalism and legal issues.
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As much as I dislike the column, UGA should not start suspending reporters credentials based on approval of their content. This isn’t Nam. There are rules (1st Amendnent).
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Spence, you are right. I let my dislike of Jeff Schultz get to me. Thanks.
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He has a strong affect on people.
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They have no right to access..no one does.
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Correct. He can write what he wants without fear of penalty from the law. We do not have to grant him a credential, and I’d bet some serious conversations w/ someone above Shultz’s pay grade and UGAA have happened since the article was published.
Our radars didn’t sense you were speeding. We followed you around the rest of the week and never found you speeding. But you should still probably get a ticket. That’s Shultz thinking.
He’s criminalizing two kids which the justice system chose not to charge, criminalize or detain. There are some places one could call that defamation or libel. And this is a justice system in Athens that has had no problem arresting student-athletes.
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What in the wide world of sports is going on here……….all we have is the info given by CKS. Done. As for the credential issue, I say exile him from athens-clarke county for life and make him listen to the UGA broadcast with a 10 minute delay for all UGA info going forward. I call BS back on his head, cause the 19 nacho cheese Doritos bags (family size) is his personal best from his days of being treated like a mushroom…….kept in a dark room while others shovled shit on him!
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Come on we need dawg Pravda. Maybe we can get a press like the DPRK. “The university of Georgia beat Alabama 235-0 without any incompletions in 78 passes. Alabama meanwhile gained -38 yards. After the game coach smart shot a 19 at the Athens country club after barely missing his 18th straight hole in one.”
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Seriously, fuck that guy.
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“I believe this constitutes strong circumstantial evidence. The only thing that would’ve made the case stronger is about 19 empty Nacho Cheese Doritos bags.”
You believe, Jeff, you believe?
You are right, Mike…fuck this guy and the bullshit he is trying to spread.
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Maybe they only tested for performance enhancing drugs. That’s a drug test.
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“They didn’t inhale”
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“They didn’t exhale”
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I think Jeff Schultz should be arrested because he is obviously high on crack. I drove past the AJC offices one day and detected the aroma of crack cocaine smoke, and when I sent him an email about it he didn’t respond.
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All great comments, but I ain’t clicking that link. No support whatsoever for the AJC here.
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I’m just excited that the Process is kicking in. But it takes time. “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” should have been going on long ago. Do we really think Gurley or Green would have sat under Kirby? Or that Marshall, Mettenburger, Matthews, etc.,etc. would have ever left much less find other SEC pastures? ‘Bout time we catch up with the rest of the football world! This is the Process in it’s rawest form. Awesome! Full speed ahead and pass the Mary Jane.
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Sorry some kid’s transgressions do need to lead to them leaving the team. These kids passed the drug test. Mett not only assualted a womsn he lied to his coach. He needed to go.
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