The ones that know why aren’t talking. Which is probably the only intelligent decision that’s been made in connection with the entire debacle.
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We will never know but I wonder if it was Richt’s idea or Schott’s.
If Chip truly wanted the answer, he would have interviewed Pruitt.
Pretty sure that even Pruitt realizes it would be better if he kept his mouth shut on this one. He probably doesn’t want people to start leaking dirt on what went down last year.
I’m definitely in the camp that thinks it wasn’t such a bad idea to start Bauta that day.
I agree with Daniels, Bauta’s HS coach, though:
“Daniels remains perplexed like everybody else about the fact that Georgia really didn’t change its offensive look or philosophy with Bauta at the controls. The 6-foot-2, 220-pound Bauta was considered more physical than Georgia’s other quarterbacks and a better runner.”
The real shame is in the fact that they didn’t use him like they should have tried to use him. They hung him out to dry. Set him up for failure. I felt so bad for that dude as the game unfolded.
You missed a really bad game. https://youtu.be/IRR1Nq2sPcc
Watch it again and tell me where the coaches did Bauta wrong with the play calling.
The kid just can’t play, period. He’s not good enough.
My point is that they new that, right? They knew the guy couldn’t play very well in their system. After all, that’s why he was #3 on the depth chart.
So when it was announced he would start I think most people assumed they had something other than “their system” in mind. Surely (SURELY! we assumed) the game-plan will look different because we have a guy who’s very mobile?
And while we’re encouraging one another to watch the game again (which I never will), why don’t you watch it again. The dude made some great plays in that game.
Faton made great plays?
I have re-watched every offensive play. What is said about the game plan is simply not true. The plays that would most take advantage of his abilities, may have been the worst plays of the game.
You can have your own opinion but then there’s tape. The latter has more credibility with me.
Stop drinking the bong water. It makes you type stupid things.
I ain’t a sheep. Don’t care if the herd notices the difference. I’ve watched the plays. If anybody wants to discuss the actual game, I’m ready.
My suggestion is to watch the first zone read keeper we ran.
Yep, that was an awesome game plan. I really liked how, on the second series, they ran Douglas from the I formation up the gut on 2nd and short. He got stuffed by the middle linebacker. So what did the brain trust do? They ran him up the gut again on 3rd, but this time without a fullback, only to get stuffed again. Genius…..just like you Derek.
If you can’t beat a LB one on one twice you aren’t an SEC back. Sony was hurt remember. On the first one if Douglas hits the lb anywhere but the middle of the chest, he gets a first down. The second play was due to a missed block. Again Douglas just has to defeat the lb enough to get a yard. He couldn’t or didn’t.
Rewatch the plays. I have. Neither was as bad as putting 16 in the I on 4th down with Chubb as the lead blocker. WTF?
But back to 2015 what about Reggie dropping that punt? What kinda play call was that? Thanks bobo!
“Watch the plays, I have….watch the plays, I have.” You sound like a parrot. You are not the only guy who has YouTube there genius. I have watched that shit show more than once.
Then I don’t have to tell you that the failure was on Douglas on the first play and douglas and an o linemen on the second.
I’m sure you have some 3rd and 4th and 1 calls that would have worked better AND better yet the players would have executed them perfectly.
The point being a decent call looks bad when the players don’t execute.
My assessment of a bad call call is when you are asking a kid to do that which you know he can’t do. That’s my problem with the 4th and 1 vs Vandy. 16 can’t break a tackle and Chubb is no FB.
Chubb blocked no one and 16 went down on first contact. That’s a bad call.
Da’rek: ” You can have your own opinion,but then there is MY opinion which is the only one that matters.”
Jeepers dude how many times a day does someone turn to you and say just STFU please.
The game tape doesn’t reflect opinion. At all. It is what it is. You can watch the Zupreder tape and say: what shooting? Fine. But it’s not what the camera captured.
I can’t speak for others, but my problem with you has never been your representations of fact as much as your attitude.
If someone disagrees with you it should be for your position and not your disposition.
If your goal is to actually convince others then your tone should be different. You should recognize that. But maybe that isn’t your goal. In which case your simply a troll. An intelligent troll? Maybe. But still a troll.
Sorry for the asshole. It’s sort of an immutable characteristic but I agree that it’s too often disproportionate. When it is my opinion that someone just said something really, really stupid it angers me, and far too quickly.
You’d probably be surprised at how often I do edit myself. I hit “cancel reply” a lot. What can I say, I’ll never be Secretary of State.
I like a little asshole here and there, keeps things interesting… And I mean this simply in the context of your tone on this message board, haha. Thanks for the self-awareness, but everyone should chill out and let people be themselves, it’s like people make an industry out of being offended.
I didn’t look it up. I’m busy. I was pretty sure it wasn’t right but I figured phonetically, the point would be made..
Derek…. when Bauta was recruited to Georgia, he was called “the next Tim Tebow”, have you forgotten that?
The decision to go with him may be inexplicable. Personally I feel they had 3 bad choices.
However, the idea that the game plan was the issue is annoying. Pull the game up on YouTube. Watch the first read option play. Bauta is one on one with a guy that outweighs him by 50 pounds or more and Bauta loses. That is not supposed to happen. Dan Marino would have been equally successful on that play, today.
There was a reason Bauta was third string. The coaches may have forgotten that, but he had every chance to succeed had he been capable of succeeding. You can’t beat UF with a guy who, on his best day, plays mop up duty in Fort Collins.
We fucked Faton. End of story.
People have already forgotten how awful that day was-from the decision to start Bauta, to the gameplan, to Reggie’s fumble, to that halftime interview that I’m convinced was the tipping point-just a horrible look on CBS versus your biggest rival with the East on the line.
What happened at the halftime interview? I turned it off and took my kid trick or treating as I was tired of watching us wet the bed.
It was just a horrible look. Richt looked like he could barely form words. I remember looking at my wife and saying “that’s what it looks like when someone puts a microphone in your face when you’re in the way to your boss’s office to get fired.”
Honestly though, I’ve never gone back and watched it. Maybe it wasn’t as bad as I remember it in my head.
But for some reason, my brain has a connection to that. To be fair, there is nothing he could have said that would have made the situation better or changed my opinion at that point.
Ha! I did the same thing. I couldn’t stomach any more of that garbage so I gathered the family and we hit the neighborhood!
Right. He was a DGD that worked hard and was universally respected by his teammates, but he had no business starting. We completely screwed him on national television.
I hope Treon Harris thanks the Ga coaches during his induction speech into the to Ga/FL Hall of Fame.
Wanna throw up? Treon Harris has as many wins in the GA/FL game as Matt Stafford, David Green, and Eric Zeier…..combined.
Yep, it has been a shit show since 1990.
I saw that piece, but wondered why they were digging it up again. I guess it’s relevant because of the game this week, but I don’t really want to go dig into it again.
I felt bad for Bauta. He was dumped into an almost impossible situation and apparently was wholly unprepared and the coaching staff didn’t seem to utilize his skill set. Things went the way you might expect and then the whole thing blew up. I always wonder if he blames himself for Richt getting fired. He would be wrong to do so, but I can easily see him thinking that.
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I hope he doesn’t feel like he’s responsible for anything that happened that day. He took practically zero first team reps all year and then they suddenly throw him out there at 3:30 on CBS against Florida…. with no real plan.
What the hell.
Don’t see anyway he could feel that way, of course he was not. And I doubt that game played a huge role in the decision at all. It was a mysterious set of circumstances, I never understood why they announced it in advance. Why give FU any notice of a QB change during the off week? Only thing I can think, especially since we did not change the offense at all, was they felt FU would prepare for a totally different offense with a running QB under center, and enough time to put in some significant changes. Certainly didn’t work, but it is the only way the pieces fit for me.
I think the explanation was “we wanted to see if we could keep it a secret.” No, really.
That’s when I suspected it was over for Richt. Why the hell would anyone say that?
That’s when he knew someone was backchanneling to the media (cough Pruitt cough).
I’ve told everyone the explanation over and over, accept it.
You are embarrassing yourself man. The most bizarre, discombobulated, example of a mind (s) shutting down since the OJ decision.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
I don’t think that’s what went down, but the Bauta experience is the piece of evidence that keeps conspiracy theories alive.
There was just 0 good explanation for what we did. We hung a good kid out to dry with no chance for success, and then never let him play again.
I guess we have to focus on all the great memories Richt gave the young men on opponent’s teams over the years. All those record setting days, unexpected wins and championship game appearances are things those young men will always be thankful to Richt for.
I know I sure loved it for those kids at Auburn, Georgia Tech, and Tennessee to take so many losses to Georgia the last 15 years.
Like him or not, with the exception of Florida CMR dominated our key rivals. That’s one area Kirby better not let slide if he wants this gig to last awhile.
He sure made the SC and Florida kids feel like winners. He did a lot for the psyche of the UCF, Mich St, Nebraska, BC, West Virginia and Bama kids too. He’s a good man who loves players from all schools and he’s continuing his good works in Coral Gables.
//dismissive wanking motion
Well, he has a good point, who could ever name another coach that didn’t win every game over a fifteen year period? Shame on him, I am changing my allegiance. Richt was a secret agent all along and I am just being made aware of it. Damned suicide bomber sent to upset our balanced fan base, not even a Christian apparently. Let’s tear down the Mark Richt IPF! Oh, wait….
Still have not heard JC explain what Nickels and Vandy games were this year. Guess he still fixiated on CMR so much he can not analyze this years team yet.
i forgotted…can you tell me again?
Think 8 million.
I think his conspiracy theory is that CMR intentionally wanted to lose the game and get fired because he already had put out feelers for the Miami head coaching job.
now I know why I forgot
CMR was told after the Missouri game he was out at the end of the season, started Bauta as a favor to the kid, and coasted the rest of the way. The UM offer was a fortunate TOE, I suspect that CMR would have been just as happy doing mission work and speaking tours. I only met him once, but I never go the impression there was anything nefarious about the man.
Coasted? That team won 9 games and beat Penn State with a coaching staff of GAs. (Suck it Franklin!)
We were not a good team last year, but we still won games which if I recall is the point of the enterprise. I think they coached ’em hard for the most part and fought until the end.
But that’s just my opinion, man.
I never heard anyone seriously say he was going to get fired after the Missouri game. By Sunday after Florida, it was rampant that he was done. That game was the breaking point.
I said maybe.
Just about the only opinion on it I haven’t seen posted here. Thought I would trot it out for a look.
+1. Who knows, it’s as good an explanation as anything else.
One day, a lot of the real story about the past 3-4 years will come out. My suspicion is that “dysfunctional” would be too polite.
Dysfunctional comes to mind for me as well. Business decision made behind closed doors, and likely not as exciting as we all want it to be.
“because he already had put out feelers for the Miami head coaching job.”
Except that somebody had already felt him up.
“How Miami got Mark Richt to become its new coach”
“So how did Miami get its coach?
Seeds were actually planted back in October. Shortly after Al Golden was fired, athletic director Blake James reached out to Richt’s agent, Mark Carmony, to gauge whether Richt would have any interest in the job. James had identified Richt as his No. 1 target and already had a working relationship with Carmony, who also represents Miami men’s basketball coach Jim Larranaga. Carmony told James that Richt was happy at Georgia and not interested in leaving.
In the month that followed, Miami hired a search firm to help identify potential candidates and hammered out the qualities it hoped to find in its next coach….
James decided it would be best to wait until the regular season ended before really putting its search into high gear. Things really started moving the day after the Pittsburgh game. Miami reportedly talked to several coaches, but the one it truly wanted became available on Sunday, Nov. 29. Richt was done at Georgia after 15 seasons. James called Carmony that day to again express Miami’s interest. Would Richt now have interest in talking to Miami?
On Monday, James got the answer he wanted. The Miami contingent met with Richt on Tuesday at a neutral-site location. Though James and Richt serve on the Football Oversight Committee together, they had never met in person. The two sides talked for between four and five hours. Richt asked his fair share of questions. “I covered all the bases and things I think are crucially important as far as staff, as far as support staff, support programs for players, academic support and how did that work, and all these kinds of things,” Richt said. They also discussed facilities, briefly hitting on the opportunity to get an indoor practice facility built. That still remains the No. 1 item on James’ facilities agenda.”
— darth™ 😹 11 days (@darth) October 25, 2016
— darth™ 😹 11 days (@darth) October 25, 2016
The only one talking was Jack Daniels. Sounds familiar…
I think it is possible that Greystroke Landing was suspended for some reason that week…or something…anything..honestly there is no good reason…let the tales fly.
I thought that at the time too, but have never heard a whisper about that. Just don’t think that’s it.
Years of a lackadaisical approach to running the football program climaxed with Bauta starting against UF.
There’s that word again. You don’t average winning 9.7 games a year for 15 years if your approach to coaching is lackadaisical. To suggest such is ludicrous.
The “rings collect dust” statement suggest otherwise.
A statement which has absolutely nothing to do with the intensity of preparation game after game.
Ill advised words? You bet. Indication of poor coaching? Not even close.
Not even a poor choice of words. People can take it out of context to get their panties in a wad if they want, but it is the correct worldview. The people most upset by it are surely not working 75 hours a week to reach their maximum human potential, they are drinking canned beer and whining about the work ethic of the top .005% of achievers in the sport and in the coaching profession.
I prefer your interpretation to mine.
That lazy son of a bitch should have worked harder to give you a championship, sitting on your couch.
Well I couldn’t resist.
Everybody wants to overthink this. The Bama game showed how far behind that program we, and everybody else, really were/are. While the fanbase wanted to believe we had a shot against Bama at home, I’m sure our coaches knew long before going into that game what the talent gap was. The UT game was just crushing for all the obvious reasons, and then we look so flat against Mizzou something needed to change to light a spark. The question is not “Why Bauta?” but “What happened to Ramsey?” So Bauta is thrown into the game…remember all of the Fall practice talk about how he was the hardest worker, etc.? Team needed leadership under center. We lost FL, and while some believe that also meant we lost the SECe, reality was we certainly weren’t going to win the SEC. But we did go on to run the table, and that’s the coaching staff’s job.
Shorter: Bad team needed to gamble, did, and lost. No conspiracy. Raise your hand if you truly believe Lambert would have beaten that gator D.
I would have liked to know the result without 4 interceptions and a punt fumbled into the end zone for a TD along with a healthy Sony Michel for the entire game. Not saying we win, but we helped them … a lot.
I basically agree, but it wasn’t a gamble…that would imply that there was some chance, however remote, of success. What we did had no chance of working.
That was meant as a reply to DawgFlan comments about not being so easily offended.
I have a hard time accepting the premise that Bauta was “fucked over” by the former coaching staff. The kid is a competitor. I’m sure he looked at it as a great opportunity. Sure it didn’t work out, but he was able to transfer to another program where he could again compete to start. Where did his start in the WLOCP affect his “career” as a football player? Would he be a lock for the pros if he hadn’t started that game? Would he be starting for UGA right now if not for that game? I just don’t see it.
Um, he could have seen given another opportunity to play in a situation that had a chance of succeeding. They fucked Faton.
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