I’ve got to give some credit to SI.com’s Michael McCann for writing an entire column on the legal ramifications of the Mays family saga. If you’re looking for an end game on Cade’s transfer waiver request, this is probably as good a suggestion as you’ll get:
Mays would seem to have a more compelling waiver argument by arguing that a transfer to Tennessee would reflect family hardship. Such hardship is an accepted rationale for a waiver. Mays would need to show that the transfer is motivated by a recent injury or illness to an immediate family member. He would also need corroborating documentation from the Vols’ athletic department that he would be allowed to depart from the team to provide care to this family member. Under NCAA rules, this family member must be located within 100 miles of the university.
Mays could argue that he is transferring back home to help out his parents, particularly his dad, in light of the hand injury. His parents’ lawsuit, which details the suffering of Kevin Mays, could help him in that regard. While the injury occurred more than two years ago, it stands to reason that Kevin Mays’s recovery—which has included multiple operations—has not gone as well as he hoped. Perhaps he needs care from sons Cade and Cooper, both of whom will be with the Vols next season. Kevin Mays is also from Knoxville, the same city as the University of Tennessee, meaning the 100-mile stipulation would be easily satisfied.
That would explain why Mars has indulged in a public pissing match with Greg McGarity. Playing the family hardship card, I don’t think Georgia’s cooperation is necessary to get the waiver, so crap like this is merely gratuitous flexing.
The lawsuit claims loss of consortium. Slightly kinky.
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If Mays has to leave to be closer to help his Dad, let’s hope this isn’t one of the areas of assistance! 🙂
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Not kinky, pinky.
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I guess the shocker is big amongst the ill folk.
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This deserves more likes.
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Genius is frequently unrecognized in its own time.
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A kinky pinkie.
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“Judge Lawrence…we call Rosey Palm and her 4 1/2 sisters to the witness stand.”
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Well, the duck hunting and Hay business isn’t going to bale itself.
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Alls I can say is that Tennessee folk will be Tennessee folk. Going home ftw.
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He’s in the “duck hunting business” ? (i heard that too) What does that even mean ? A guide ? He lives about 300 miles+ away from where anyone should actually pay another human being to take them duck hunting.
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And I know that he and Cade duck hunt but is he really in the business…. I live in duck country and I’d be wary before I ever paid anybody from east Tennessee to take me on a hunt. Now, I might go to their place and have a blast……. he may have a great place. But there’s no way in hell I believe that somebody from east Tennessee is actually running some type of guiding operation that’s worth anything.
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Nor would a 2 year old pinkie finger injury prevent him from running that operation.
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“Be vewy, vewy quiet…i’m hunting wabbits”
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So what was McGarity’s “strong statement”. I have never heard him make one, so I am interested in what he had to say.
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There is something weird about all this, but I can’t put my finger on it
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This whole damn thing is ridiculous. There is no way Mays should get immediate eligibility. If UGA throws in the towel on this even if in exchange for the dropping of the lawsuit, I’ll be very disappointed but not surprised. If this injury was that traumatic for the family and young Cade’s psyche (who seemed to be enjoying his Athens experience in multiple ways), why in the hell did he sign with Georgia? Why did his father rip the Hillbilly T off his truck when he signed? I think Mom and Dad decided they didn’t like not being on the inside in Knoxville.
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”Playing the family hardship card, I don’t think Georgia’s cooperation is necessary to get the waiver,”
This is like the moaning about “letting Fields go”. We have NO part in it.
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Family hardship, my backside? It’s garbage.
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Which has not one thing to do with UGA having a say in what happens.
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we, UGA doesn’t handle the defense. The attorney general’s office handles UGA
a defense and any outside counsel the AG hires report to the AG.
s office always fights that defense before considering any settlement. Obviously if it gets UGA out on sovereign immunity grounds it won’t settle.The State has sovereign immunity and the AG
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I only want McGarity and the AA to fight the eligibility claim as hard as they can.
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Which is ZERO. You wish the kid well and drive the fuck on.
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agree……….
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Well of course. But the whole thing is so flagrantly bullshit it’s impossible for a rational, low bullshit tolerance person to ignore. If your kid changes his mind? Fine, transfer. Don’t drag the University into a bullshit self aggrandizing lawsuit that is so obviously if not a money grab a leverage play for Squire Cade’s immediate play that you can smell it from Banks County on a still day.
Also, the hillbilly farce that is in play here is much too juicy to ignore. The magic pinky? Did it have a motor in it? Was it waterproof? What exactly made that pinky so valuable? Inquiring minds want to know!
Are we to believe that Papa Mays earns an income worth millions with farm equipment and firearms but cannot safely manipulate a lawn chair? I can tell you from experience haying equipment is notoriously unforgiving to the stupid. So are shotguns. I suspect even the retriever is looking over his shoulder in that blind.
It’s too juicy to resist, Illini. I can’t look away.
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Go get em!
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He’s transferring to the Vols. I absolutely do not wish him well outside of beating Florida (if they can). Unless “may you experience losing to Vandy, Kentucky, and UGA in one season” counts as “well.”
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If he’s eligible this year, I hope FU beats the hell out of them. I just threw up in my mouth a little after typing that.
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I hope Nolan Smith and Ojulari beat the crap out him.
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Pretty sure it was the lineman out of Rome that had the dad rip the T out of the back window of the truck.
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Thanks
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Isn’t there also some exception equivalent to a hostile workplace exception ? Isn’t that basically what Fields got ?
I think the Mays tactic would be that “after further complications” we “had no choice but to sue.” They’ll say that while they did love Georgia and they didn’t want to “have to” file this lawsuit…….they now understand how just the presence of this suit makes life so untenable for Cade. That’s why Mars was running his mouth yesterday and had to be so over the top in his “new record low for Georgia comments.” Mars was building his fact pattern yesterday in the public sphere (with the help of the doofus Dan Wolken) He has to paint the picture of UGA being ugly about the lawsuit so that he can say that Cade “couldn’t possibly” return to that environment.
Anyway, not sure if that’s an avenue in the exceptions. I thought it was.
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Mars is a conflicted shyster jackass.
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That stink isn’t a fresh dog turd it’s an asshole and your head is too close to said asshole.
As a side note his wife must be easily satisfied or he had a larger than normal pinkie.
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My wife went to school with Kevin Mays, and a good friend of mine is big buddies with Mays’ wife. The nicest thing they can say about him is that he is a “jerk”. This good friend also shared a post of Cade and dad with a whole bunch of ducks they had shot. I guess that hand is working ok now
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Or as David Letterman once included in his Top 10 Best Things to Say About Ted Kennedy- “He exhales carbon dioxide, and that is good for plants.”
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What a shit show.
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Just curious. How is Dad in more pressing need of assistance now that surgeries are over than he was when Cade enrolled in Athens in January 2018?
If the kid wants to lea e and transfer, fine. Just be honest in the process.
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NONE of this will be public.
http://www.ncaa.org/static/champion/what-the-ncaa-transfer-portal-is/
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I understand it’s hard to stir Moonshine with only 4.75 fingers.
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The blueprint is out. If I was the parent of a player wanting to transfer with immediate eligibility I would slip and fall on campus. Lawsuit filed, transfer portal, eligibility.
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Think I saw somewhere that mom’s loss of sexual satisfaction for the past 2 years was valued at $500,000 in the lawsuit. If nothing else makes you feel this case lacks $3MM of credibility, this should should persuade you. Everyone would probably have supported settling for a reasonable amount, but this would have looked more stupid than the Ludacris (sp) contract payment.
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Talk about putting your business in the street!
“Baby’s into running around
Hanging with the crowd
Putting your business in the street
Talking out loud
Saying you bought her this and that
And how much you done spent
I swear she must believe it’s all heaven sent’
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How many wives of 20+ years would value our “services” at over $20K a month? Put veteran housewives on the jury! (That is free jusy consulting advice for UGA, and I am claiming it on next year’s list of donations.)
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Loss of consortium encompasses more than just sex life.
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Have to admit, I never knew have seen it used any other way. I was always afraid to look deeper than that. For discussions with my wife, I am sticking with being very much under valued and appreciated.
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The lawsuit in their minds should have more merit with Mays “outta” here. The pain and suffering would be more intense with his son still at Georgia and kicking his alma maters asses!!!!
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My second favorite Todd song. Right behind Last Ride.
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Of course the immediate play exception is risible and I hope it fails, the merits of the case may not be as bad as we’re all making it out.
(1) If a folding chair company has a product that has cause the same or a similar injury numerous times and it’s well documented, they will lose.
(2) If UGA had the same or similar injury with said chair and didn’t replace them all, same deal.
(3) Finally, the state is unlikely to assert sovereign immunity for this incident as offering temporary seating to invitees at a public sporting event is not a “state action” in the strict understanding of what the state does for citizens.
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Don’t go getting all lawyery on us, Mike. I wish the kid he best and I don’t really care if he plays next season (Other than it’s not fair to all those who’ve had to sit a season) especially if it’s at left tackle. Anyone who watched the Texas game knows that speed off the edge is kryptonite for the kid.
On second thought, how would you go about determining the value in a case like this? Getting a pinky pinched in a folding chair could happen to anyone and who possibly could further consort with a partner possessing such a hideous deformation?
I have to admit I’m enjoying the Mays’ shamelessness in all this way too much.
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How did Luke Ford not get a family hardship transfer if this guy is getting one?
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He hasn’t gotten anything yet.
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Because Luke’s required sign off from Kirby, and Kirby didn’t sign off? If Georgia had said OK to it, the NCAA doesn’t even review. It just stamps the paperwork and moves on.
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No. Family hardship doesn’t require former school’s consent.
Ford didn’t get his waiver because he couldn’t meet the 100-mile radius requirement.
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If Kirby signs off, they waive the 100 miles? That’s my understanding. I’ve yet to hear any scenario where both schools give the thumbs up and the NCAA overrules based on anything.
My understanding is that they apply their criteria as a sort of arbitration filter if one of the schools balks at a green light.
They’re there to take the heat rather than coaches.
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Did he lose his consortium finger, nose exploration finger, finger finger? No … Case dismissed. Those little fingers are just there in case you need them.
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Win that kind of lawsuit against the UGA Athletic Department in Clarke County?
Good luck with that.
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If I had to guess, Fulmer got wind of the details through his coaches recruiting the younger brother and put the family in touch with Mars.
This has Fat Phil written all over it.
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The fact that Paw can’t operate a folding chair doesn’t reflect well on that utk education. And wife isn’t satisfied either – sans that magic pinky tip. And they let the guy operate a gun?!
This is what we get when you take a recruit from the Knoxville area. It’s a fricken zoo up there.
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“It’s all made up and flagellant.”
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I’d say the Mays family is certainly giving UGA the finger.
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I’m a retire attorney and Mars is just being his usual SOB self. He has a track record winning these but Senator have they changed the conflict rules about suing your client? I don’t know how a Representation Agreement overruled the Cannon’s of Ethics. I guess the hotshots at the NCAA felt he would take it easy on him if they hired him and waived the specific conflict. Stupid is as stupid does.
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Would there be any blowback had UGA settled with Mr. Mays? He filed before the SOL ran and my guess is that the parties had some sort of settlement talks during the 2 years from when the accident occurred. Had UGA settled (assuming this is not meritless and the University and chair manufacturer have insurance,etc) could this be some grey area as and operate as a payment of some sort to the parents of a student athlete? I know it’s far fetched ie losing a finger and the. 2 years later being paid by the school but this is the same organization that made it illegal to get cream cheese on a bagel. I don’t think this is what happened but hypothetically would this or a similar situation open a school up to some sort of redress via the NCAA?
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