Shot.
Phillip Fulmer was very adamant on his stance about the “One Time Transfer:
“I don’t think we’re holding the kids accountable enough period to be honest with you. You come in and you’re not the starting whatever as a freshman and you got the chance to transfer, I don’t know if that’s healthy. I don’t know if that’s telling our youth the right thing. Fight through some things, after 30 hours of academic work or something, some number that makes you commit”
“That’s awful hard on the coaches, you know you got a guy then all the sudden you don’t, I don’t like anything about that. So, I’ll have a vote, but don’t think I’ll be making the decision”
Chaser.
Ain’t it turr’ble when you make life awful hard on the coaches?
Get The Picture 
But what if the players daddy gets drunk and loses part of his pinky then can’t drop the hammer on his wife so he sues the players old school?
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I don’t like to admit agreeing and sharing the same opinion as Fatmer but there is much to be said for holding young “Adults” accountable. After much consideration lately of fairness related to player likeness compensation and better opportunity avenues, you also cannot throw away the value of academic and life education which means choices have accountability and responsibility consequences. Two cents.
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So, I assume this means you believe the NCAA should apply the transfer rule currently in place for football and basketball players to all college athletes.
For that matter, if we cherish “the value of academic and life education”, shouldn’t we penalize any student who wants to change schools? Just sayin’.
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…and if we do that, isn’t that an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but I for one am not going to stand here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
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Sounds familiar… 🙂
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Sorry, got busy all day yesterday. But yes, why should any other sport need different rules. If you agreed to accept a scholarship, you made a commitment. Essentially you’ve signed a contract. Honor the contract. If you find yourself in a situation where you’re not happy, you may move on laterally, up or down when the commitment is complete. The one time transfer rule is posted by the governing body we have. IMO it is flawed when it isolates any single sport.
I’m not a fan of the way the NCAA executes or chooses not to execute it’s written charter but they are the governing body such as it is. If enough of the college athletics community and its supporters really wanted it changed, they could change the whole landscape of college athletics. But that’s a whole other discussion and irrelevant to this one right now.
Trying not to make this about me but having just retired from a 28 year commitment to the Department of Defense, I recognize the value of commitment. Having trained and mentored thousands of young people over the years, I have an opinion on the development of professionals and professionalism. And, just because you’re in a “student” status doesn’t mean you shouldn’t…..act and be….. professional. Isn’t that academic and life education and doesn’t it produce responsible and accountable individuals who are better equipped to be leaders at any level. And please don’t misconstrue this as an authoritarian view. It’s not meant to be.
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As you were,……….to be leaders at any level? (question mark)
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For most, the scholarship is a one-year, renewable arrangement, so why shouldn’t a kid be able to leave after a year?
You would have a stronger argument if the scholarship was a full-blown, four-year deal, not subject to a coach’s discretion. But it ain’t.
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I’m not saying he can’t leave after a year. In fact, I’m saying if a player is not happy with the situation he’s in, whether it’s a situation where you may not have lived up to the coaches expectations, or the coach is just simply a dick and you don’t want to stay, by all means move on somewhere you think may be better for you. I’m also saying that the stipulations of leaving after agreeing to accept the scholarship are what the NCAA charter says they are until we change or adopt a new set of rules. I know the the NCAA has been subjective in interpreting its own rules. That’s the other discussion though.
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I’ve lost the point you’re making. Isn’t that exactly where things are at right now?
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There’s a reason that the award for the most off-season misconduct was named The Fulmer Cup.
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(I get that it was named by a UF grad, but there’s truth in the joke)
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Orson Swindle didn’t quite get that whole glass houses thing.
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Unfortunately, I think we’re leading after yesterday’s news.
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If true, it’s been a very slow offseason so far on that front. Without looking though, I’ve got to think Ohio State has gotten out to a huge lead with the two rape and kidnapping charges.
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With the amount of money the coaches are making, there should be no sympathy for making their jobs harder. They are paid a premium, it’s the cost of doing business.
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I’m confused. I can’t find any record of Fulmer calling out Cade Mayes on his decision to transfer when he didn’t get the position he wanted at UGA.
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Relax the 85 rule. Then you don’t have a problem anymore.
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No, you have a new problem.
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I can see both sides of it. I remember being young and in hindsight, having some really poor judgement and making decisions I wish i wouldn’t have made. I’m also glad there were some authority figures in my life that practically forced me to endure some hardships I otherwise would have abandoned.
It seems that maybe allowing 1 free transfer after 2 years in a program, or after going through 1 fall camp, season, and spring camp would be a happy medium.
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Why should an athlete be subject to different rules than any other student? I think the NCAA seems to have struck the right chord with this proposal.
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That’s a valid point. And I certainly will be ok with it if things go that way. I just personally can relate to the value of guardrails that force a young person to endure some hardship. I don’t believe that when a coach, who deals with these kids daily, says as much that there is always a nefarious motive.
The most valuable lesson I learned that led to a successful career for me is the ability to do a task well, whether you like it or not.
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Definitely get all of that. Given how the recruiting process is and how little guidance many of the guys get through the process, some make mistakes in their college selection just like any other student.
I think the 1-time transfer rule with no exceptions beyond that seems to be reasonable (a word I don’t use to describe the NCAA’s actions often).
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[Musical Note Emojis] Because we all know athletes (particularly football, basketball, baseball and hockey (?)) are no longer regular students, and why there is all this hypocrisy and contradictions from everyone on these issues… [More Musical Note Emojis]
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Fulmer’s head football coach has changed schools 10 times in the last 23 years.
These guys have no shame.
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Found it amusing for donut hole phil to use the word “healthy” in any public statement…the only item phil is voting on is bigger “hot-n-fresh” neon signage for his bag-o-donut’s GPS to pick up
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I’m assuming he’ll insist that Cade Mays not play next season regardless of the NCAA ruling on the matter.
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That would be awful hard on the coaches.
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