Thursday morning buffet

Food for thought…

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69 responses to “Thursday morning buffet

  1. 202dawg

    Those dead hookers must be causing ol’ Craig a LOT of guilt. What a tool…

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  2. j4k372

    Ah, Corch. Always the paragon of sportsmanship. I harken back to 2008 GA vs FL. You have timeouts, why not use them?

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    • gastr1

      But I so missed the Gentlewoman from Florida doing lil championship speech saluting he and Percy Harvey. Really the only good thing about that last one.

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  3. Corch is a world-class, in-game football coach, but he’s also a world-class hypocrite and all-around jerk.

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  4. Graham

    I don’t believe that sex re-assignment should be banned. However, designating those with gender dysphoria as being in a protected class is dangerous.

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    • 202dawg

      Agreed. Anti-discrimination should cover all, not just select groups.

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      • Ben

        It’s sad that we have to live in a country with protected classes, but we’re still not far removed from a time when someone would be killed in our country simply for having a different skin tone.

        Homophobia is still strong in many places, and I’ve worked closely with a transgendered person who had lots of hate thrown her way. So, I see the need for protected classes because the same person who would beat and harm a homosexual or a transgendered person is not one who would necessarily beat and harm a boring old straight white male.

        So, for that reason, I see why some classes and groups should be protected. (and I say this as an average person; I’m not a lawyer or anything like that; just someone with a differing opinion on the Internet :))

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        • Russ

          Again with the logical arguments! What is with you people? This is the internet. I demand hyperbole and LOUD NOISES!

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        • Bulldawg165

          What difference does the motivation for an attack (whether verbal or physical) make? If I’m targeted because of my green eyes does that mean I’m magically less harmed than someone targeted because of their skin color or sexual orientation, even though the actions against us were the same? Why should we try to deter only attacks against them and not against me as well? What makes them better? Simply being “more likely” to be a victim isn’t really adequate because the impact on the ACTUAL victims is the same regardless of the attacker’s motivation.

          In other words, if you think someone shouldn’t be attacked, increase the penalties for ALL attacks, not just the ones against your “favorites.”

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          • Ben

            Where did anyone say anything about someone being a “favorite”? That’s not how this works. Matthew Shepherd was murdered for being gay. Emmett Till was murdered because he was black. Transgendered people are bullied and harassed because they are (wait for it) transgendered. No one said anything about someone being a “favorite;’ it’s just that we live in a world with a bunch of jerks who will be jerks for the sake of being jerks, and sometimes they do jerk things to people who are different from them that they wouldn’t do to someone who looked like them.

            That’s why we have protected classes.

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            • Bulldawg165

              Let me ask this again, and please stand up so it doesn’t go over your head….

              “What difference does the motivation for an attack (whether verbal or physical) make?”

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            • Bluto does such a fine job of running this blog that we all enjoy so much I hate to muddy up the football side with my .02 cents worth here, especially when it has little to do with football. Yet… I can’t resist. Per your transgender friend. I once did an art gallery in a mixed use loft/development in Midtown. The architect that recommended me had sent work to me before and had a special request for me to meet his clients. Nice upscale restaurant in Atlanta. Middle aged couple from Germany. Husband ran a family winery. Nice people. A bit eccentric. After the meeting the architect asked me what I thought.
              I had noticed half way through dinner that something wasn’t quite in focus. The wife. Anyway. He asked me if that would be a problem and I responded with not for me I don’t think.

              Wrong is wrong. Sexual orientation or skin color doesn’t make you above committing the same wrongs nor should it give you a special advantage from them.
              Emmett Till 1955 meet
              Channon Gail Christian, 21, and Hugh Christopher Newsom, Jr., 23 -2007

              man inhumanity to man is only surpassed by his cruelty to animals

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              • Bulldawg165

                “Wrong is wrong. Sexual orientation or skin color doesn’t make you above committing the same wrongs nor should it give you a special advantage from them.”

                Couldn’t have said it better myself.

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  5. jermainesdye

    JC: “What do you see up there, Pete?”

    Peter: “It’s half a yard, coach. 4th down. Up three scores. Two minutes left.”

    JC: “Yeah?”

    Peter: “Yeah. I think so.”

    JC to Cardale Jones: “Pound the fucking rock right through their guts.”

    And the Lord saw his work and saw that it was good.

    -Urban 42:17

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  6. Union Jack

    **Intrinsic values are estimated using fundamental analysis. Fundamentals considered include long-term on-field performance, stadium size, state-by-state growth rates, cash flow, revenues and NFL programs’ financial information. Invested capital implies that the valuations reflect long-term debt and equity. These values apply to the host universities as continued going concerns, or as likely purchase prices in an open market. Since universities are tax-exempt on profits, taxes at the corporate rate were excluded from this analysis. Thus any hypothetical ownership transfers of FBS programs would require tax effects analysis, if not assumed by pass-through or tax-exempt entities.

    Sabremetrics for collegiate athletics. Sounds like they have developed a hypothetical purchase price for each team if these teams could be bought and sold on the open market. $711 million for UGA. Not bad – worth more than the Hawks.

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  7. BCDawg97

    At least UGA is part of the meme 😉

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  8. I don’t really care what the new SEC meme is. The bottom line is that i can’t ever see a scenario where the SEC champ gets left out of the playoff except for an SECCG upset of epic proportion. For all of this Corch love, Bama had its opportunity to win the game and then Junior happened.

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    • Bulldawg165

      “Bama had its opportunity to win the game and then Junior happened.”

      Yeah. Only one other team put up more points against Ohio State than Kiffin’s Bama squad 😉

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      • I know that, 165, but Junior decided to try to cross up the Buckeyes’ defense when he had momentum and a chance to pound away, run clock, and steal a win after the short punt. Sims throws a bad pick, and then the Buckeyes salt away the game with the long TD run. At the end of the game, Junior and Sims completely mismanaged the clock and play calling in the 1-minute drill and were forced to throw a Hail Mary at the end.

        That’s why I say Junior happened. 🙂

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        • Bulldawg165

          This analysis seems eerily similar to an analysis one would give for why Murray should spike the ball at the end of the 2012 SEC championship game, or why we should’ve handed the ball to Gurley at the end of the South Carolina game. Armchair quarterbacking at it’s finest 😉

          Kiffin more than pulled his weight that game.

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          • We comment on blogs – isn’t that what we’re supposed to do? 😉

            For the record, I was ambivalent on the spike-or-not-to-spike call. It could have gone either way. Give credit to CJ Moseley for making a great play and just horrible luck that the deflection went directly to a guy who’s been trained his whole life to catch the ball. I did think the 1st down call in Columbia wasn’t the right call at the time and was exaggerated by poor execution. With Junior, aren’t Georgia fans conditioned to make fun of him at any time and for any reason? 🙂

            I assume you would agree that if Richt/Bobo handled that 1-minute drill the way Saban/Junior did, the Bulldog Nation would have hammered them for it.

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  9. Bulldawg165

    Eh, It wasn’t that big of a deal to score an extra TD at the end. Like it or not margin of victory matters and a 22 point victory will go a long way to solidifying OSU’s preseason #1 status, and we all know the impact a high pre-season ranking can have whether it’s deserved or not.

    I also think it’s silly for the author to get upset about Jim Tressel being in the hall of fame when he was complicit with players getting paid. We all agree that they should be paid so why cast someone in such a negative light when they don’t stop it from happening? The rule is immoral anyway and his actions were victimless (unless you consider the NCAA sanctions as a result of Tressel’s actions as opposed to the NCAA’s nonsense rule)

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    • Dawgfan Will

      It’s still a dick move.

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      • Bulldawg165

        What about Oregon, the supposed “victims” here, running up the score on Florida State? That seems much more egregious yet nobody here has their panties in a wad over it. Some of you need to stop letting Urban Meyer live rent free in your heads.

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        • Dawgfan Will

          No, it’s a dick move when Oregon does it too.

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        • Is the issue running up the score, or running up the score while professing to be holier than thou?

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        • Dawgfan Will

          On the subject of the snarky Urban Meyer remark: half the fun of following college football is the personalities. I think Urban Meyer is a douchebag. I hope he always loses. I laugh every time I see the picture of him eating his sad pizza. I enjoy the warm self-righteous glow I get when I think about the cognitive dissonance of “top 1% of 1%” and “Aaron Hernandez.”

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        • Ben

          Everyone hates FSU, so it’s fun to see it happen there. Everyone hates Urban Meyer, so we get sanctimonious when he does it.

          The difference to me is that OSU scored one more time in the final 90 seconds of a game that they had won. At least Oregon’s points were scored while there was still a good bit of game to be played.

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          • Dawgfan Will

            Your first paragraph says it all. I love the competition of the sport, but I also love have good guys and bad guys. I don’t understand why anyone feels the need to make it about feelings of inferiority. I accept that Urban Meyer is an excellent coach. I still don’t like him. The dude practically begs for rival fanbases to hate him. I’m happy to oblige.

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        • Debby Balcer

          Oregon did not have their first string in. It is one thing when you first string is in and another when your second string is. Urban has no class and acts like he is pure as the driven snow. I agree it was bad sportsmanship but unfortunately good sportsmanship is not important to many these days.

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    • Cosmic Dawg

      Can you appreciate that there might be some competitive imbalances between programs where players get paid and programs where players do not get paid? And so it’s not a victimless crime?

      I agree with you that players should be free to make their own money, sign autographs, etc. And I agree they’re working under a private-public collusion to prevent them from receiving market wages out of high school – an opportunity all their fellow students and the rest of us enjoy.

      But I personally don’t feel we often hear the discussion in its proper light. Many of us do things we don’t want to do because the benefit of going under the table or breaking the rules doesn’t outweigh the damage we could do to other people around us.

      If Tressel gets into the hof despite helping players get paid, and CMR gets into the hof despite resisting that temptation, we’re basically saying that CMR and all the kids who resist the urge are suckers…and I think that stinks.

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      • Cosmic Dawg

        “…programs where players do not get paid?”

        Okay, a little realism: “programs that actively discourage it”.

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      • Bulldawg165

        “Can you appreciate that there might be some competitive imbalances between programs where players get paid and programs where players do not get paid? And so it’s not a victimless crime?”

        Are you implying that Team A, who “plays by the rules,” and Team B, who “doesn’t care if players get paid,” were to play each other, Team A is full of “victims” because Team B might be marginally more talented?

        Sorry, but I just can’t make myself pity those poor, outmatched athletes.

        “we’re basically saying that CMR and all the kids who resist the urge are suckers…and I think that stinks.”

        They ARE suckers. There’s nothing noble about complying with an immoral rule.

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  10. Russ

    Big win by the b-ball Dawgs at Vandy. Haven’t won there since 2006, and we were shorthanded as well. Looks likes Fox’s hounds have potential.

    Oh, and Corch is a world-class douche. Now and always.

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  11. diving duck

    Kirk Ferentz’s career is a real head scratcher.

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    • Ben

      He’ll always be a hero in my book for that time they stomped Tech in the Orange Bowl.

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      • Macallanlover

        I thought he would have them ready for TN but his team did not show up at all. Sgt Carter’s boys came to play, where was that against Mizzou?

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    • He’s teaching all Iowans, from the tender young turnipseeds to Gramps in the overalls, the proper way to strenuously chew gum.

      My favorite Ferentz snapshot was the time that he defeated Ped State, 6-4. Iowa had a 6-2 lead with like 4:00 remaining when they chose a self-inflicted safety instead of risking a punt. The strategem paid off, so inept was “mighty” PS that it could not even move into FG range to try the winner.

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  12. PTC DAWG

    If I was a D player for OR, I would rather OSU continue to play myself..taking a knee on 4th is insulting. Just run the ball like they did…

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  13. 69Dawg

    Football used to be a gentleman’s sport, at least among the coaches. Those days are long gone. Up by two TDs with a 1st down and you opponent not having a shot at getting the ball back, a good football coach would take a knee. Only a self absorbed SOB would play on. Urban and SOS were not unlike in this department.

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    • Absolutely this … +1

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    • Careful Brad

      When they scored the touchdown I thought to myself “Classic Corch”

      Then I heard his “We play to win games” quote and thought “Hmm, if only there were a way to not score in a game when you are up, have the ball and time is running out. Maybe some sort of formation that signals you have secured a victory, we could even call it a victory formation.”

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    • TJ

      What? You gotta be kidding me. If it’s within the rules, got no issue with it. Thing is, you’re competing, you’re trying to do your best on every play, it’s their job to stop it if they don’t like it.

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      • You’re correct – if it’s within the rules, it’s ok, but is it the right thing to do?

        Did you think Darth Visor’s double reverse pass in Sanford was ok just so they could be the 1st to score 50? It was certainly legal, but it was petty. That play is the main reason I wouldn’t piss on SOS if he was on fire.

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        • TJ

          So you want the players to not play their best, and just quit trying, I don’t agree.

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          • I didn’t say that. It’s the coach’s responsibility to instruct the players to go into the victory formation and take a knee at the appropriate time. If the coach tells the players to run a play to try to score, they should try to score. I never said anything about the players. I point the finger at the coach for the classless move.

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          • Macallanlover

            I think you are missing a major point in this. I would have no issue if he had 2nd team players working on the offense and getting experience. But when you have your 1st team in or resort to trick plays, you aren’t doing anything but showing your ass. No one is impressed, and hopefully someone will make him pay for it, I don’t care how. Wish a coach would slap his ugly, pompous ass and I don’t care if it is on the field, outside the stadium, or in a bar.

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  14. W Cobb Dawg

    Hey brother Bluto, nothing about Chan being named OC for the Jets???

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  15. TJ
    1. on Urban Meyer’s Christianity and not taking a knee. I like it, you had some tough guys in the Bible, Samson was a warrior who was tough in battle. John the Bapt ate bugs for lunch. Got no problem with it.
    2. Craig James is running out of career options, backed himself into a corner with his stance on transgender, and is now trying to defend it. He looks like a complete tool.
    3. Like what Coach Frentz said about changing the right things. So true, I’d say Georgia’s are stop the run, and limit turnovers on offense.
    4. Advanced stats was interesting, think Georgia was better than Bama this year, and should have gotten into the playoff, but the board went with conference Champions, not sure that worked out good for them as Bama got crushed. TCU and Georgia should have gotten in, and Oregon and Ohio State. Thought FSU was overrated.

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    • Bulldawg165

      “TCU and Georgia should have gotten in, and Oregon and Ohio State.”

      Do you seriously think we should’ve gotten in over a 1 loss SEC champion in Bama? Or an undefeated Florida State?

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      • TJ

        Sure do, especially after seeing the results of how Bama and FSU played so poorly and looked so out of their class. The stats say Georgia and TCU were better this year. I think the committee got it wrong by just blindly going by conference Champs. It’s more nuanced than that.

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  16. Oh, you aren’t counting transferring out to play at other institutions as declaring for the draft .,,

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