The odd couple

I’d like to be a fly on the wall in this office.

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  1. Bulldog Joe

    “Who are your texting there, Jeremy?”

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  2. AusDawg85

    Your wife sure is pretty Kirby.

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  3. 202dawg

    “If you say ‘aiight’ one more time i’m gonna bust you one, Hound Dog…”

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  4. Well, on the bright side they can share the recruiting board…

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  5. Dolly Llama

    This whole “working for Bama through the playoffs” thing sure feels like Saban is making Kirby (and us) his bitch in this deal.

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    • Or on the other hand, he could really value Smart’s ability and wants him for the playoff run.

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      • Dolly Llama

        I’m sure he does. Still feels like we’re getting the shitty end of the stick.

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        • Agreed. All we can hope for is the media exposure of Smart during the playoffs may help our recruiting a little bit, but otherwise he probably is biting off more than he can chew.

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          • Bulldog Joe

            By the time Alabama’s post-season is over, Kirby will at least feel better about his decision not to keep Pruitt.

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            • Mayor

              I dunno. By the time Bama’s post-season is over and Kirby has been AWOL on the recruiting trail for Georgia Pruitt will have flipped every major UGA defensive commitment to Bama so………..Kirby might be feeling a few regrets.

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              • Bulldog Joe

                So you are saying Pruitt’s phone works during the dead period and Kirby’s doesn’t?

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                • Dawgfan Will

                  He might be saying Kirby has games to prepare for and Pruitt doesn’t.

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                • Mayor

                  I’m saying what I said. Just wait and see what happens to Georgia’s D recruits.

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                • Scott

                  Pruitt can’t contact any recruits between now and the time the Bama postseason is over. Is he flipping them through telepathy?

                  And I know…recruits can contact him. They can also contact Kirby. You think if a recruit calls Kirby, he’s going to just not take the call because he’s busy trying to figure out what MSU is going to do on second and seven? Come on, man….

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                • Scott

                  By the way….I’m not saying we WON’T lose any defensive recruits between now and signing day. We likely will. But it won’t be because Kirby was in Tuscaloosa during the dead period. It will be because every time a program makes a complete change in leadership, it should expect to lose recruits.

                  We will also GAIN recruits due to Kirby being one of the best recruiters in the business. It’s already happening.

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                • Mayor

                  What a bunch of BS!!! “We will lose some recruits but it won’t be because the new HC wasn’t out recruiting to hold the class together. It would just be because committed recruits abandon what they said the would do before the coaching change. Perfectly normal.” WTF???? That’s exactly why the HC has to get on his horse and re-recruit the commitments. Right now the D recruits don’t even know who they would be playing for. Instead Kirby is still working to try to win a NC for one of our rivals. This smells worse and worse every day.

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                • Scott

                  Yes…every time a team changes coaches, there are always decomittments. I don’t know why that would be a controversial statement.

                  I guess we will wait and see. I think Kirby’s first recruiting class will be as good or better than the class would have been if we had kept Richt. You obviously don’t. Either way….go dawgs!

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  6. Gravidy

    Which one is Oscar, and which is Felix?

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  7. Awreed79

    So, we get left with no head coach or defensive coordinator for our post season, and Bama now has two top notch defensive coaches for theirs. is it just me, or does UGA look really stupid right now. At least we’ll have a good excuse when Franklin beats us in the bowl game.

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    • Go Dawgs!

      I guess it depends on how much importance you put on winning the TaxSlayer Bowl as compared to how much importance you put on what the program does down the road.

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      • Mayor

        Excuse me. How does having an AWOL HC during his first recruiting season and losing a bowl game help the Georgia program going forward? Dolly had it right above. Saban is making Georgia his bitch. Again.

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        • I Wanna Red Cup

          I don’t think you get that from now until the NC game is a dead time for recruiting.

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          • Mayor

            It sure as hell isn’t a dead time for putting together a staff. BTW, that is the biggest reason I think KS is a bad hire. He has to cobble together a staff. All the best coaches from the Georgia D are leaving Athens like an avalanche is coming. Sure didn’t take ’em long to find jobs.

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    • SlobberKnocker

      I agree. And it seems strange that we haven’t seen any announcement as to who the interim DC is (don’t think I missed it). Seriously, who is organizing practice, developing the game plan, then calling plays for the D?

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    • Chickamona

      Just saw Schottenheimer isn’t coaching either. That may be addition by subtraction, but yeah, gonna be a pretty small staff coaching that bowl game.

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    • lakedawg

      The players got crapped on here. Do not know who to blame, McG, Smart, Saban, or all of them. Yet Bama players got whole staff minus some analyst they sent over here..

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  8. Go Dawgs!

    The SEC Network needs to set up cameras in that office. Coach Pruitt could only benefit from talking to and working with the guy who knows his new defensive players best, and Kirby can learn plenty about what he’s inheriting at Georgia, too. If Kirby accepts input or at least discusses the plans for the upcoming game that would be some fascinating football conversation to which to be privy. Those are two great football minds. Throw in Coach Saban, and you could sell that tape to any defensive coach in the country.

    Of course, if it’s just weird and awkward with no conversation, then that would be fun to watch, too.

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  9. I imagine Nick is going to use Pruitt as a consultant for these 2 games. In particular, he and Smart will love having Pruitt as a resource to talk about how we defended the Clemson offense and how he handled it at F$U.

    I doubt there are hard feelings between Smart & Pruitt. If Pruitt stayed on, he would have had less autonomy because Smart was going to put his fingerprint on the defense. That’s why I think Sherrer will be an internal promote. It seems Nick is now a hands-on CEO type of coach. He’s probably going to give Pruitt some leeway within the system.

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  10. Zone2District37Comptroller

    I wish Smart well in the playoffs, but I hope Alabama loses 2-0 to Michigan St.

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  11. Time for McGarity to coach the bowl game. He played Tennis, didn’t he.

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  12. hassan

    Now that Shotty is gone too, the staff situation is starting to look like the plot of an Agatha Christie novel.

    Oh well….at minimum, we only need 3 to coach the Bowl game.

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    • Bob

      Cochran just turned Kirby down too. Can’t say it has been an awe inspiring start.

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      • Turd Ferguson

        Cochran didn’t “turn Kirby down.” UGA didn’t want to pay $400k for a strength coach.

        And about Kirby’s start, he seems to be doing quite well in the eyes of people who know what they’re talking about …

        http://georgia.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Card-Kirby-Smarts-first-week-at-UGA-42020328

        The overlap between the people pissing and moaning about Smart’s first week and the people still pouting about Richt’s departure is remarkable. But I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.

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        • Daniel Simpson Day

          Cochran is also one year away from being fully vested in the state retirement system. With all the volatility in the CFB world, can’t say as I blame him. Kirby is doing well and seems very deliberate…. Like he knows what he’s doing and has been a good student of his mentors. I’m pleased.

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          • Bulldog Joe

            Hocke is already one year into implementing Cochran’s program here.

            I am not convinced we are losing much with that decision.

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        • Mayor

          You know Turd, you have completely flipped positions. 3 weeks ago anything Mark Richt did, even if it was correct, was criticized by you ad nauseam. Now everything Kirby Smart does no mater how ridiculous or destructive to the Georgia football program is just great with you. We are going to name you as the Founding Member and President of the Kirby Smart Apologist’s Club. Long may you reign.

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          • JonDawg

            Mayor, ya beat me to it lol

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          • Turd Ferguson

            This is wrong. And dumb.

            I’ve never been as critical of Richt as you describe. I simply dared to suggest that it was time for him to go. And I was right. You may have interpreted that as my criticizing “anything Mark Richt did,” but that’s only because of how attached to the man you’d become. Not my problem.

            That’s the difference between you and me. I root for Georgia. You root for Mark Richt.

            Nor do I think that everything Smart has done has been great. For instance, I’d rather him cut ties completely with Alabama than coach them through the postseason. But for the most part, I’ve been very pleased so far. And as the link shows, I’m hardly alone in this. Fellow coaches, former players, and prominent members of sports media all seem to agree that Smart’s decisions in his first week as head coach were neither “ridiculous” nor “destructive.” You’ll pardon me for finding their opinions more trustworthy than some lovesick Richt apologist on the internet.

            Here’s the problem for heartbroken Richtophiles like yourself. After nearly a decade of underachieving, my optimism with Richt had run out. But Smart has only been Georgia’s head coach for a little over a week. And it’s been a good week. So I and many other Georgia fans have a replenished well of optimism. And that kills you.

            If you’d like a Kleenex, I’m here for you, pal. Why don’t you do us both a favor and slide your ass into that Miami Hurricanes fanbase like you’ve been there the whole time?

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            • AthensHomerDawg

              Squirter

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            • HVL Dawg

              Kleenex, Miami. Wow, that’s the same line of crap you gave me yesterday.

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              • Turd Ferguson

                Yep. And the offer still stands. Plenty of tissues to go around.

                Sorry it bothers you guys so much that some of us are more excited about Georgia football now than we were a month ago.

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                • Mayor

                  If you think I am a Richt supporter Turd, you can’t or don’t read. You just write. And do it badly. I am on the record as saying I am glad CMR is gone. My gripe is and has been that we fired a coach who averaged about 10 wins a season because he didn’t win championships–and instead of hiring a proven winner like a Saban or a Meyer (not necessarily one of them but someone like them) we squandered the opportunity and hired a DC who has never been a HC before. Worse, during the most critical time of his new tenure (i.e. recruiting his first class and putting together a staff to hold onto the best recruiting class UGA has had in years) the new HC is AWOL helping one of Georgia’s rivals try to win a NC. Sorry Turd, I agree with you sometimes but this is not one of them. Quit being a Kirby Smart apologist and at least admit it when the guy is off base. And what he is doing right now is way off base for his new school–Georgia.

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            • Jeff Sanchez

              Explain how you were “right”, if you don’t mind…

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        • JonDawg

          Turd, you are the first person to bring up Richt in this thread.. So are you botching about yourself? This is oddly similar to the premise early on that not liking and/or disagreeing with barack obama meant you must be a racist. How long do you plan on using him to shield/excuse any and every criticism of our new coach? Go Dawgs

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        • Chadwick

          Make that $500 large plus. Cochran got a raise to $500k and long-term medical and money from Alabama, the State. Whew. Large dough.

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  13. Will Trane

    The real odd couple is Fran and Shotty.
    Old Shotty hides after the Tech game, and then he runs out on the team prior to bowl.
    What would call his hire? A total disaster. Probably the worst in Dawg history.
    Just wonder who will be the folks who hire him and work with his agent Fran.

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  14. If we weren’t playing Pedophile State U, I wouldn’t care much about the bowl game. But we cannot let those scumbags take a win off us.

    But who is left to coach?

    I can’t believe how badly we let Alabama and Miami make us their bitch in this whole situation.

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    • D.N. Nation

      Yes, Da U, which is going to let Richt bring Willie Martinez along for his retirement tour. Oh no. We are so boned by Miami. Whatever shall we do.

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      • Oh yes, long run Miami is boned.

        But they still made us their bitch in the short run as far as our bowl game.

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        • Nah. The U ain’t makin’ us anything. That is squarely on the man who took their job offer. And we made it all possible.

          He’s gone. Ain’t nobody left to coach an inconsequential game that happens to have a decent little payout except for B Mac. Why don’t we have a little fun with it? A W would be nice for the seniors but does it really mean anything else?

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          • Well yes, you are right. It was CMR who made us his bitch. First by taking $40m+ and under performing. And now this.

            The only reason I care about the bowl result is because it is against Pedophile State U who deserves to lose every game they play.

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  15. Curtis Jones

    Strange

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  16. Skb

    Pathetic… Once a Saban cronie.. Always..
    Ray Goff 2.0

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  17. 92 grad

    I would contend that the real reason Kirby is coaching at Alabama through the end of their season is all about the kids on the team. If we believe Kirby to not be a liar, he said as much. It’s not Saban making him stay, it’s Kirby honoring the commitment he made to his players. He is not going to leave them hanging until they complete their quest for achieving their goals for the season.

    It’s a no win situation. Kirby stays, he is screwing Georgia. Kirby leaves, he is leaving his players hanging, breaking the promises he made, which is what most fans love to criticize coaches for doing.

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    • Turd Ferguson

      Selfishly, I wish Kirby had completely cut ties with Alabama already. But I agree that it’s a no-win situation.

      People say it’s Saban forcing him to stay, but there’s absolutely zero evidence that that’s actually the case. And if, indeed, it’s Kirby honoring a commitment to players that he recruited and coached, then the irony of many Georgia fans’ bellyaching is almost too perfect to ignore. They complain about us firing a high-character guy like Richt, but then, when Kirby does something that shows a little character of his own, they bitch about him not being “all in” for Georgia. (Meanwhile, Richt’s sunbathing in South Beach …)

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      • I hope he is finding time to do prep work to take the reins as soon as possible when his Bama commitment is over. I would have liked for him to be in Athens now, but I get his commitment to his Alabama players.

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  18. illini84

    Despite former Alabama DC — and new Georgia coach — Kirby Smart attempting to get Scott Cochran to follow him to the Bulldogs, the strength and conditioning coach is staying with the Tide. Said coach Nick Saban: “His role has been a big part of what we have been able to accomplish in terms of our success here both on and off the field.”

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    • I thought that part was a done deal? Did Smart tell McGarity that Chochran was coming with him when they hired him? That seemed to be as big a get as the Pittman hire to me. It seems like a pretty big whiff now…especially after identifying size as a problem with the dawgs.

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    • mp

      That’s the problem of trying to create Alabama 2.0 when Alabama 1.0 is still out there and kicking (and spending and recruiting).

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    • Turd Ferguson

      From what I’ve heard, Cochran stayed at Bama for two reasons: (1) he’s a year away from qualifying for a retirement pension from the state of Alabama, and (2) UGA was unwilling to pay half-a-million dollars for a strength coach. That may be the new frontier in assistant football coach salaries — i.e., quality strength coaches getting paid big bucks — but even with the recent changes, it won’t surprise me if UGA is one of the last major football programs to get on board.

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  19. dawgtired

    Dawgs247 reporting that Lilly and Sherrer will coordinate our bowl game…
    http://georgia.247sports.com/Bolt/Georgia-names-coordinators-for-the-Taxslayer-Bowl-42043133

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  20. Will Trane

    Eason reaffirms his commitment to Dawgs.
    Way to go man!
    Way to go Coach Smart.
    LOS and QB. Top priority for an old DC now the OC.
    Biggest weakness at UGA for awhile.
    Like Coach Smart said, “this is a line of scrimmage conference…build size and depth”.
    Sounds like the young, hard charging Coach Smart is breaking fast.

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  21. IAmAChubbyMan

    What happened to all the clowns who said that No Richt would mean no Eason? lmao.

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    • You at least have to give Richt and Bobo credit for getting a kid from Washington State to consider playing his college ball on the opposite side of the country.

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    • Derek

      I think is was “could” not “would.” I know, one letter and it changes everything don’t it?

      What happened to all the clowns who said that they didn’t care whether we lost Eason? Where are the dumb asses who said that he wasn’t very good anyway? Where are the idiots who said that we could just get another qb if Eason moved on?

      You’d have to be a real dumb ass not to be know that we dodged a bullet here. If Eason had bolted we’d be fucked. Glad we ain’t.

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  22. Glad for Kirby that he is able to keep Eason in the fold! Also glad for the Bulldog Nation that we may have the QB of the future. Let’s go get Skinny an offensive line now.

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  23. Turd Ferguson

    Explanations of why CKS doesn’t deserve any credit for Eason reaffirming his commitment coming in 3 … 2 … 1 …

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  24. dawgtired

    I honestly don’t get all of the friction within our Dawg family. Most of us just come here to talk about a common interest in Georgia Football. UGA ranks near the top ten in all time wins for over 100 years of football and many coaches played a role in making that happen. CMR being one of them and a good one at that. CMR should be appreciated for his contributions and is a DGD. Now Kirby gets his chance to continue writing his story in the history books of Bulldawg football. All Dawgs should be on board with supporting him now. We may not like every step or decision each coach has made or will make, but end the end we are all Dawgs at heart…just saying.

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  25. DugLite

    Richt coached FSU in the national title game after it was announced he was the new UGA coach. Smart is doing it exactly like Richt did. If either situation wasn’t for the national title or a chance to play for the national title then I believe each of them would have left their former school and come to UGA without hesitation. They were/are still playing for something.

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