I’m just curious. Agree or disagree with this?
Intellectually, I don’t get this, but I’m not going to deny that a lot of people feel like that. What say you?
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I disagree. DJ Shockley and Aaron Murray were great college players.
Agree, Murray was the first name that jumped into my head.
I’d say they were very good. Manziel and Tebow were great.
Those are perfect examples.
Darren McFadden, Jarvis Jones, David Pollack, Tre Mason, LaMichael James, Mike Williams (USC), Charles Rodgers, Colt McCoy.
Marcus Lattimore, but he would have been great in the NFL.
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I disagree. College football and professional football are completely different and not everybody is great in both.
Tom Brady was a nonentity as a college football player, and one of the greatest of all time as a pro football player.
Eric Zeier was one of the greatest of all time as a college football player, and a nonentity as a pro football player.
Or Eric Crouch who has accolades below but only made a NFL roster 1 season.
Heisman Trophy (2001)
Davey O’Brien Award (2001)
Walter Camp Award (2001)
2× Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year (1999, 2001)
2× First-team All-Big 12 (1999, 2001)
Given I don’t even really watch the pro game, I couldn’t disagree more with that statement. David Pollack was one of the best college players of the 21st century. He couldn’t help a neck injury that ended his pro career while he was just getting started.
Agree with Cynical above. Brady is one of the best QBs to play the professional game, but he should never have a spot in the CFB HoF.
If you are/were great in the pros it overshadows your college career but does not negate it. If you see Herschel highlights are they going to be the Dawgs or the pros? If you see Adrian Peterson highlights are they going to be the Vikes or Sooners?
Herschel sits at #12 on the career all-purpose yards list. I believe he and Bo are the only NFL players to have 90+ yard TDs rushing, receiving and kick return. It’s not Herschel’s fault he could never meet the expectations people had of him after the trade from Dallas and that Dallas absolutely sucked when he was there.
Herschel Walker should be in the Pro Football HoF.
Herschel Walker played initially in the USFL for about 5 years as I recall and tore that league up. If you add Herschel’s rushing yards from the USFL to his rushing yards from the NFL he would be damn near the pro football all time rushing leader.
13,700 rushing yards; 6,200 receiving yards; 5,100 return yards and 149 total TDs combined which would put him #1 on the all-purpose yards list, #7 on the rushing yards list, and #6 in TDs.
The USFL lasted 3 years.
I agree that it’s an opinion
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If that is the case then please explain Kurt Warner. Started one year at Northern Iowa. While he was a HOF pro player, that in no way projects backwards on his almost non existent college career.
Tommie Frazier would be the biggest example I can think of that refutes this. Manziel would be another.
I couldn’t disagree more, for all of the reasons that have already been mentioned above. I’m sure you could write a list a mile long of all of the award-winning / All-everything college players who didn’t make a dent in the pros either due to injury, off-the-field issues, or just not having the physical tools to succeed at that next level.
Sucks for the GPOOE, I guess. Means he wasn’t a great CFB player.
I’ll take it. 😂
As far as how “the American public” views things as a whole… sure. That’s exactly the way it is in that regard. But really it’s utter nonsense. They’re different games. Size and durability matter a lot more in the NFL, and on top of that the way a player ages has a huge effect.
Same goes for the “well he never won a National Title” logic, especially for QB’s.
That’s a bold take…one I cannot agree with.
By that logic wouldn’t you need to be a big time college player ( not prospect ) to be a Hall of Fame pro?
Disagree wholeheartedly. Look at Charlie Ward, he won the Heisman but didn’t even go to the NFL. Is he not great? I mean, the Heisman is the best player of the year, theoretically. It’s the definition of great.
This is the second thoughtless tweet you’ve dedicated a blog post to last week. Of course this is ridiculous.
Try this one. https://twitter.com/rundownuga/status/1278309618670874624?s=21
This week not last week.
Nope! Archie Griffin won two Heisman’s but had just an average NfL career. Terrell Davis was, IMO underused in college but was elected into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2017.
Davis was drafted by the Broncos in the sixth round (196th pick overall) of the 1995 NFL Draft. He is the Denver Broncos all-time leading rusher, with 7,607 rushing yards. Davis still holds the NFL record for most rushing touchdowns in a single postseason, scoring 8 in the 1997 playoffs.
There are countless examples of players who excelled at one, but not the other.
Ray Goff … the only man who could hold Terrell Davis to under 100 yards per game 🙂
Each of the qbs that won heismans at uf.
Disagree. Think that is a lazy and short sighted take. Countless greats that were not “all-pro” going all the way back to the 1930s even.
Disagree; college and the NFL are two different things entirely. Other great college players from outside the SEC who did not do that much in the NFL include:
Anthony Davis (the one from USC and I still love the way he tore up notre dame)
Johnnie Rodgers (Nebraska Heisman)
Gary Beban (UCLA Heisman)
Terry Baker (Ore.St. Heisman)
Ernie Davis (Syracuse Heisman)
I say that intellectually it’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard lol… one has zero to do with the other. What about a great player who gets drafted by the wrong team, or sits behind a better generational player? It’s just a clickbait fallacy to me.
no way, under that logic, the GPOOE would cease to exist.
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