Didn’t see this one coming.
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UPDATE: Bidness decision.
Jamie, we hardly knew ye.
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Apologies. We should have been more considerate to your well written post.
#fuckthemotherfuckers
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This is the most Georgia thing ever. I am going to go straight to self-pity land. It’s a great look on a 44-year-old man.
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I think I have a bucket of ash and some sackcloth left from last seasons South Carolina game, if you want I can send it to you.
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I will provide the gnashing of teeth.
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Justin Fields come on down?
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What if….
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There is a Justin Skyler Fields in the UGA directory. Might be a creative prank but it’s there.
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Maybe the coaches shouldn’t have told him how really impressive he looked…
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Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.
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Another day in 2020
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So uh, Justin, uh you ain’t like busy or nothing right?
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Hello again Mr. Fields.
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Would be the most CKS thing ever for Justin Fields to transfer back
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Before I get a raging hard-on for this idea, this is not possible, right? He could net get immediate eligibility. Someone throw cold water on this idea before I do and say many stupid things. Please. Save me from myself.
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I’d think its impossible but were in the days of wtf? so who knows?
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The hard on or the eligibility?
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Both.
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Don’t “extenuating circumstances” factor in to the eligibility ruling? I’d guess that a global pandemic qualifies.
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For the NCAA? Right.
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Well, I guess that gets us down to 87 scholarship players. Not where I expected the attrition to come from, honestly.
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came in and got free training from ex-nfl OC, used facilities and training staff then split. free QB clinic for him with room and board. sucks!
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Yeah! When will NCAA football players finally stop exploiting universities for personal gain?!
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Well played, Jazz.
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Good thing we have the Mail Man.
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Stupid me, I thought the “What if” thread was going to be the worst of the day!
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Can’t we just all opt now so we don’t have to lose games because we don’t have a qb?
I think its time for Morehead to move to cancel the season.
I don’t want to lose games over this virus.
Fuck that bs.
Is newman thinking draft or 2021?
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I assume the draft … no reason to put off the paycheck until April 2022.
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Put the razor blade down buddy. Yeah, this is not good – I was looking forward to seeing what he could do as much as anyone, but it’s not like he is the only QB on the roster. Lots of talent there. Next man up.
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Do we have a qb on the roster that can win at Tuscaloosa?
Thats what I want to know.
I’m skeptical.
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Well, Derek, we had one that could win at ND.
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Draft. Can’t blame him, really. He got all the hype and media attention he could hope for, little more reward left and lots of risk being on campus in the time of Covid. Wonder how much UGA reporting all those new infections factored into it.
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The 2020 College Football Season is starting to feel a lot like the final season of Game of Thrones. And if you’re a Georgia fan, Kings Landing just got burned to the ground.
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Draft.
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He read that article by Dakota over at Bama and realized his situation was hopeless, so might as well jump ship.
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1) Good luck, Newman.
2) Forget about Fields. There’s no way he gets clearance from the NCAA that quickly, and the B1G is trying to figure out a way to play football this fall.
3) Hello, manball, unless JT Daniels gets cleared for contact (no matter what Todd Monken wants).
4) If Daniels doesn’t get full clearance, our QB choices are a redshirt freshman who had a cyst removed from his brain, an undersized, former walk-on/JUCO transfer, and a true freshman who is likely the odd man out when Vandagriff steps on campus.
2020, you can go straight to hell for all I care.
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Is Stetson Bennett still on the roster? It’s not like we’re not used to 5th year senior career backups as our starting QB…
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Bennett is a redshirt junior.
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Ah, well, Ok then. That makes it all better.
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My first thought, after shock w/ dismay, was “welcome back manball. we just can’t seem to quit you.” Which led to more shock and dismay.
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Assuming Daniels isn’t cleared for contact, there’s NO way Kirby gives Monken the latitude and the patience to implement his offensive philosophy this year with Mathis or Beck at the controls. He’s going to try to win with defense, field position, and clock management.
Kirby’s first offensive instinct to do no harm is probably kicking in really hard right now.
Even if Daniels is cleared, how willing is Kirby going to be to allow him to keep the ball in the read option?
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Who says there was going to be a lot of read option, anyway? I’ve been seeing this since the announcement and am baffled. Monken’s background doesn’t have much of any read option in it. He’s run the Air Raid. He’s run the pro-style spread. He’s never run the read option, which is a very specific kind of offense.
Even if there were some zone read runs in the playbook, who’s to say they’d be called as much as Coley called them last year, as opposed to regular play action?
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What I mean is zone read. There aren’t a whole lot of running plays you can call from the shotgun. Would Daniels be given any latitude given QB depth to keep on the read similar to Fromm last year?
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I think it’s more RPO, with the run being only for the RB, with Newman taking off to run if the play breaks down or everyone’s covered.
I honestly never believed there would be a lot of designed running opportunities, which would be the zone option plays Coley called all the time.
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I hope you’re right. I have thought we’ll see more RPO stuff rather than what we saw last year. If that’s the case, I still hope Daniels has gotten full clearance.
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Daniels learned a fairly pure version of the Air Raid for USC last season. While Monken won’t be running the Air Raid here, some of the same principles and concepts will be used in his pro-style spread offense, or whatever you want to call it.
I honestly think it might be time to go back and look at plays from 2015 Southern Miss and 2018 Tampa Bay. I think our offense will look closer to those two teams than anything else.
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Newman committed a week before Monken was hired and Daniels comitted after Monken was in Athens. Something to think about.
I am expecting a creative short passing game something Daniels did but UGA has a bigger run threat. It could be a great mix to spread the field with the passing game and run with UGA’s RBs and 5 lineman. We shall see. UGA has the depth at QB even after Newman’s departure for the option of the QB run, and an OC should be open to the option of making the D think about more things but I don’t expect UGA to be like Ohio St, Auburn, or Urban’s FU teams.
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You remember that discussion we had earlier in the week about punting on third down? Well, looks like we might see it this season.
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Attitude! Bad attitude!!
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One too many qb run plays in the game plan?
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I was so excited about Newman and the new OC and Pickens. This is the most depressing non-game day news I can remember.
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Not quite as bad as Gurley’s suspension to me. That was a straight punch in the dick. He was having a Heisman season, and it was taken away for a couple hundred bucks.
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ThAt was the worst for me. Second worst was that he did it get reinstated for the FL game.
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We had a guy behind Gurley who turned out to be pretty good, maybe we’ve got somebody good behind Newman.
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This. We need more of this right now.
Daniels or Mathis can do it.
Corch wanted Mathis something fierce and we know he knows the kind of QB who can win it all.
EVERYONE wanted Daniels.
Let’s go. LET’S FUCKING GO!!!
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I CAN TOTALLY GET BEHIND THIS!!!
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We’re still gonna beat Floriduh’s ass.
#FTMF
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I have read several sources that say J. T. Daniels was beating him in practice, but that sounds like lipstick on a pig to me.
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Exactly —- Jamie Bust knew it — bailed
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But, what if that is possibly true? Daniels is a stud, started at QB at legit power USC in what would have been his Sr HS season.
If Newman, who was not the same system fit as Daniels was, might have been beaten out (you would always choose the guy w/ 3 years left vs 1 year if anywhere close to the same talent), he would have been very smart to go pro now.
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This has to mean JT Daniels is about to be cleared to play and was beating him out, right? Why else would he bag his chance to improve his draft stock?
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It really doesn’t make much sense. I wonder if some person in his camp has hyped him to the point where he doesn’t feel a need to play?
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Who knows? By all accounts, he’s a pretty level headed person so I can only assume it makes sense to him. I only wish him luck.
But if you were coming to UGA to get tested by the defense in practice and gain exposure, you were still getting that and, since other leagues have cancelled, the exposure was going to be through the roof with the #3 team.
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I agree. Everything I’ve heard from people in Athens is that he comes across as a very smart guy. With the exposure and talent around him this season he had a legit chance of being a 1st round pick and the money that comes with that pick. Right now I’d guess he is a late round guy who will have to prove himself. Still could get to that big contract, but it won’t be easy because the starter would have to get hurt and then he would have to shine in those few games.
Anyway, I wish him the best.
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Only at UGA.
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So who’s the next man out….I mean up.
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So are we going to end up wasting another world class defense on a what-if season?
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If the season does get played, this feels like the story that will emerge. Newman seems like the prototypical “combine” guy – great physical tools etc. Just too bad he bailed on a really good team.
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My hope would be that he was gonna be our Jason Campbell. You know, big, athletic QB with great downfield vision and touch who led his Auburn team to an undefeated season?
Oh well.
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Yep. A world class defense can’t do anything if games aren’t played. We are being played. There won’t be a season,
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It’s like my mom caught me with my stash of dog porn and made me set it on fire and sent me to bed without dinner.
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Please tell us you misspelled “Dawg”.
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Rule 34. smh
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I had to google that. Learn something new every day, huh?
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/hangs head in shame
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I think we will always have a “world class defense” as long as Kirby is coaching.
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Hope his business decision blows up in his face.
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I’m not thrilled about it, but I don’t wish any ill will on the kid.
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Nah, he hung us out to dry. He’s dead to me.
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Don’t be a dick. He’s doing what he thinks is best for his future. That’s that entire point of college.
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+1
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That +1 was to mddawg I never wish I’ll on a DAWG.
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It’s time to go fix the twitchy eye from this morning. Where’s Macallanlover? I’ve got a bottle of 14yr old that may not survive this…
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I have a few people telling me Dwan is no joke right now. That and what I heard on Donnan/Roddy/Reuse podcast.
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I am not going to jump to conclusions on this situation. Let’s see if the “real” reason ever comes out as there are so many possibilities outside of covid and draft stock.
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Ding Ding Ding Ding
His draft stock had nowhere to go but down according according!
New offense, New place, New coaches, and BETTER players….the shoe just didn’t fit…
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The smart money is still on no more than 3 or 4 games being played this year by the average SEC team. He won’t be the last big SEC name to bail on this pending big nothing burger of a season.
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You’re spot on. CASES will continue to rise along with FUD. We’ll be lucky to get to the end of the year without everything being cancelled, not just football.
I sincerely hope that Newman is simply taking advantage of the opt out option to cover up Daniels beating him in practice. But I’m skeptical. It would be so 2020 for a healthy young athlete to skip the season because he’s afraid of dying from a disease with a survivability rate that must not be cited.
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Is that Ranger Russ out for a stroll in the woods of North Georgia?
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He is buried in real life stuff right now.
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Oh no! I hope everything is okay with Ranger Russ, he’s one of my all-time favorite people here!
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Oh shit, I didn’t mean to make light of a serious situation. I’m not asking you to betray a confidence, but can you say if it is health, family, or work? Regardless, give him my best.
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Same here. Give him the friendly finger for me.
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That’s the kind of year I’ve had. Two kids hospitalized. All my sympathies to Ranger Russ.
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I don’t think it has anything to do with any fear for his own health. I think it has to do with the specter of the season likely being truncated (further) or cancelled before it even gets started. And the idea of headaches related to quarantines, having to play with way more 2nd, 3rd and 4th-stringers in any given week than you are accustomed to. All for what? To MAYBE get a chance to play for an SEC championship and probably a 10% chance of there even being a CFP…. and if there is it will look totally bogus because several top flight teams aren’t playing or are quarantined or are missing their best players?
Pfffft. Forget that.
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Well, well the ship has hit the fan. I knew 2020 was going to get us. Why can’t we have nice things.
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I am 100% serious about this:
Put Zeus in at QB of the wishbone distributing the ball to Cook, Milton, and Pickens, and we still win the East. We still beat Floriduh’s ass into the mud.
Winning the SEC and getting into the playoffs? Much harder at the moment.
But the East? Still ours. Let’s do it. Let’s go full muthafuckin option offense. Fuck it.
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I like it! We can hire Fish Fry as a consultant and he can lead us to victory in the East!
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Nah, his is the offshoot of the flexbone, which he called the “spread option.”
I say we bring in Jim Donnan to consult, who won a National Title as Barry Switzer’s OC at Oklahoma running the wishbone.
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Which is funny because he wanted OT run a pro set with Aikman until he got hurt.
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That’s right! Switzer lured Aikman to OU with the promise of switching to a pro-style offense, but then won a national title with a true freshman running the wishbone, so Troy had to transfer to UCLA.
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Troy did have his leg broken you know. That happened first.
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Thus the need for a true freshman to lead the team in the wishbone.
It wasn’t an error, it was an omission. So I guess it was an error of omission?
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Since it was true, it was an omission of error as well!
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Seriously? 100%?
You need some serious intervention.
Why not put in the run and shoot with Trey Hill snapping it to himself?
Equally rational choice.
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I would like to think 2020 will look like a normal season but it’s not. When its over, we may have played 6 games with both squads at full/nearly full rosters. The remaining games will be against partial rosters or decimated rosters. In other words, Football 2020 is only a diversion. Nothing legitimate about ‘20. Watch, enjoy (?), and we’ll see everyone again in ‘21!
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Fair to call him my least favorite Georgia player ever? Or does he even qualify?
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Perhaps it’s petty, but it does feel like he “used” the Dawgs bigly…
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Well…at least we know now that the “but no spring practice” BS will die and tomorrow we won’t win the East because we just lost the best QB in college football. FTMF
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Just as I said in an earlier story. Played for a weak team in a weak league.
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Don’t Panic. So Long and Thanks for the Fish Jamie!
We play with the players we have. Soldier on. Who’s taking names?
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Don’t get too upset about a guy that isn’t #1 on the depth chart opting out.
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Don’t underestimate Mathis – the young man is a very good athlete with a big arm.
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The wiki page for the greatest Newman in UGA history hasn’t been changed:
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Has Jamie been watching film of SEC defenses? Was Justin Fields attending a Georgia practice a coincidence? Did Jamie think his competition was gonna put him on the bench? Not buying the COVID excuse.
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Ehh, Im skeptical that it’s gonna matter in the end as I’m highly doubtful a college football season will be completed anyways.
Also how are these kids soooo selfish????? Why aren’t they risking their health to entertain me errrr, for the benefit of the team????!!!!? I HATE it when people make decisions in their best interests that inconvenience ME, er their teammates!!!!!
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JT is a better QB…along with Dwan, work ethic was an issue with the WF transfer..
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Do we have proof of that? Not saying you’re wrong, I’m just curious if this has been validated.
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You can tell by Newman’s physique that you can’t get him to put in the work.
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Meh, did you ever see David Greene or Matt Stafford’s physique?
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Or Tom Brady’s….
The point was that you aren’t looking like Newman if you’re unwilling to work.
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I understand your point. But “working” in the gym is way different than “working” at studying the game. I’ve known plenty of dudes who live in the gym but are seemingly lazy and unmotivated in every other area of their life.
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I’ve never seen work ethic anywhere until right here.
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Yeah, that doesn’t track. We would’ve heard some kind of rumors from DawgVent or The Junkyard if that were true.
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I can’t see how in his mind he thinks that is good for business.
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Today is the day for pixie dust in the weather system that rotates around Dan Mullen’s heed
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Listen to the “Cover 3” podcast. They did a 20 minute episode (no Danny Kanell) and basically summary my feelings regarding Newman. In short we will be ok and JT Daniels is a better fit for Monken’s system. I don’t know if I’m correct but makes me feel good that Kirby brought in Daniels.
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I don’t know if he’s a better fit for the downfield passes Monken prefers in his offense. In a pure Air Raid, with a ton of short passes, slants and crossing routes, etc. yeah, Daniels is a great fit.
But Monken’s current offense is much more play action and downfield throwing than the Air Raid he ran in OSU or the purer form of Air Raid that Daniels learned in USC.
Daniels one knock is arm strength, so I dunno.
I dunno, man. I just dunno. Nothing is certain right now, I guess.
Fuck it, I’m all in on D’wan. He was the 2019 G-Day QBR Champion. Right now, that means more than anything else.
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You mean I watched all those Wake Forest re-runs for nothing?!
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What if I told you a young man almost died pursuing his dreams in the wonderful college town of Athens, GA? What if I told you he rose like a phoenix from the ashes, and given an amazing opportunity, then lead his team to the Promised Land in the weirdest football season in the history of college football?
From brain surgery to national champion, The D’Wan Mathis Story! Next, on ESPN’s 30 for 30.
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No way the UGA 2020 gods clear JT now.
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Well, it’s his decision to make and so be it. I will not be adding DGD at the end of his name, ever.
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Murray just said (on Pack’s show) that Jamie “pissed away millions of dollars”.
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Well I fully expected prominent players to opt out on the season. That was one of the big things we discussed in the past 3 4 months. What I didn’t expect was it to be us with Jamie Newman.
It stings and I was very excited for him but I can’t fault anyone’s decision in this wacky screwed up year. I think if he would have gotten 3 or 4 games and shown some skills that would have really helped him. I’m also not his agent. This actually helps our quarterback Room in a year that is probably not gonna be finished or is going to be screwed up or is going to have a giant huge astrik anyway.
And it’s looking to me like Kirby was on it as usual. Because the JT transfer didn’t quite make sense to me.
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I don’t think it’s necessarily about “making sense.” If you think about it, Richt’s way of staggering QB recruits to not “overstuff” the QB room and give players room to grow and learn “makes sense.”
Kirby’s way is to just stack talent on top of talent on top of talent, and let the chips fall where they may.
The one thing about this that sucks, as I’ve seen others say on twitter, is that we wasted a schollie on Newman that could’ve gone to get Grimes reclassified and into Athens.
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Richt’s way of staggering QBs left us with Joe Cox, Hutson Mason and Grayson Lambert as our starters.
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That’s what I was getting at. Just because it “makes sense” on paper, doesn’t mean it actually makes sense in practice. On paper, Richt and Bobo’s way of handling QB talent makes sense, but in the context of reality and all of the variables that can’t be controlled, Kirby’s way of just recruiting every talented player you can at every position and stacking talent at every position is the far better way of doing things, even if it means the “embarrassment” of seeing some players transfer because they’re passed up by younger players or can’t unseat older players.
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Don’t forget JTIII
Serious pet peeve for CMB and CMR.
Hey, have y’all ever heard of a guy called Deshaun?
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I love Richt but you are correct. It’s different now with how easier it is to transfer but still it should have been apparent that 09 would be rough with Cox.
I’d have loved to have seen Newman but Kirby bringing in Daniels makes me not as concerned.
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And I wasn’t discussing staggering of quarterbacks, We had a very stacked quarterback Room, with a hot 2021 and still bought in another guy. Quarterback management is the most challenging and the most delicate of all the roster management Of course. But I thought we were stacked on top of stacked and then still got JT. It just would not surprise me if Kirby had a spider sense about this thing, Because just as we all discussed the chances of a good player skipping the season was very high.
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This comment was the internet equivalent of a bucket of ice water dumped on my. Very unpleasant. Necessary, but unpleasant.
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We never even knew his QBR.
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Fields transferring back wouldn’t help.
He doesn’t know the super-complex offense and can’t read a defense. All he’s ever done is have the coaches call plays for him in the overly simple OSU offense.
At best, he would need to sit behind the seasoned Bennet, who has a better understanding of the playbook.
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This offense isn’t nearly as complex as the Chaney/Coley offense, by design.
However, he would have more responsibilities pre-snap and post-snap than he does in Ryan Day’s offense, including reading the defense to set the protection and call the audible, so yeah, there would be a steep learning curve.
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Honestly I think a lot of Georgia fans just want to be bitter against Justin fields just cause. He wasn’t number one in the nation for nothing and ohio state has an absolutely outstanding offensive coordinator. This idea that fields can’t read a defense is bunk and the idea that it would be so so difficult for him to learn more is also bunk. Hes a great quarterback.
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One thing I like about college football is the loyalty of the fans to their team, so an almost blind allegiance to the lynchpins of a program against criticism is not unexpected.
Perhaps it’s just too soon to bring up the reality that Justin Fields and really, in all actuality, Jacob Eason were clearly superior talents to Jake Fromm.
But they both are/were.
That doesn’t make Jake a bad quarterback, he just didn’t have the abilities the other guys do.
I think a lot of people think Kirby’s decision to continue to start Jake in his freshman year was somehow analogous with Belichick starting Brady over Bledsoe and riding it to great success. But it just wasn’t.
Brady was a superior talent to Bledsoe. Brady was a the better player.
Jake Fromm is just not a better player than Justin Fields or Jacob Eason. That’s a reality. He wasn’t a better leader. Nick Chubb, Sony Michel and Roquan, those guys were the leaders. Jake Fromm was, for the most part, a limited liability that we praised Cheney for hiding and nurturing during the NC run that came up short.
The narrative is now, to protect the reputation of Kirby and his decision, that Jake Fromm “led” us to the title game. But anyone that can actually review that season with any semblance of objectivity recognizes that Jake was hidden in the game plan. We thought it was magical at the time, but the magic eventually met reality in the second half of the NC.
His legacy gets more credit than is actually due in terms of ethereal transcendency. If we are totally honest, he’s Bill Wyman.
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Anyone claiming Tom Brady was a superior athletic talent to Drew Bledsoe don’t know what the eff they’re talking about, and it’s quite obvious they’re talking out of their ass.
Few QBs have ever come into the NFL with more talent than Drew Bledsoe.
Where Tom Brady beats Bledsoe is in all the intangibles. The drive. The competitiveness. The want-to. The willingness to eat, sleep, and shit football 24/7. The ability to be a coach on the field, to know where the football needs to go almost every time.
In ever other aspect, from Arm to height to strength, all the measurable? Bledsoe is far superior. That’s why he was a No. 1 pick and Brady a 6th round pick.
Damn dude, I know you’re butthurt about Fields (and I guess Eason), but you’re full of crap.
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Generally well stated… but Bill Wyman is a quality bassist. (And wrote a very intriguing insiders’ account of RS band life)
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Well, this sucks.
Very real possibility that the next draft features two 1st round QBs who (a) were on the roster and (b) never started a game for the Bulldogs.
2020 can GFI,
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Sounds about right…ugh.
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It’s the year 2030 and some Dawg fans are still fussing over the Fromm / Fields / Eason events.
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“Some men aren’t looking for anything logical… Some men just want to watch the world burn.”
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