All Tennessee, all the time.
- Dennis Dodd: “Yes, the Tennessee job remains attractive, but is it good? Florida, Georgia (in the SEC East) and Alabama are better. Those programs certainly have more dignity.”
- Lest we forget: “… Fulmer himself signed a two-year extension through 2023, which included a six-figure retention bonus. Of all the people in sports administration in America, Phillip Fulmer wasn’t going anywhere. Nobody else would hire him to be an AD. And here was Tennessee giving him retention bonuses for a job he was never suited to have to begin with.”
- Pete Thamel: “Instead of reestablishing glory, Tennessee ended up microwaving rotting salmon. Fulmer was the fish at the SEC poker table from the moment he sat down. And Tennessee officials were the only ones in the league who failed to realize he was under-qualified, overmatched and destined to transition the corpse of Tennessee’s football program from a shallow grave to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. There’s a new batch of administrators now who would dream of the issues the program had under Butch Jones.”
- Wes Rucker: “This is one hell of a mess — even by Tennessee standards.”
- Ralph Russo: “3 years later, Tennessee is worse off than it was and looking for exactly what it had.“
- Bruce Feldman: “Once again, the Vols have a coaching search on their hands. Peyton Manning will have a big role in this decision, sources tell me.”
- John Talty: “Jeremy Pruitt has told those around him this year if he gets fired, he’ll just go back to Alabama and work for Saban again.“
- After the 2017 college football season, six SEC schools hired head coaches. Four of them have already been fired.
- Auburn and Tennessee have fired coaches in the same season in 2008, 2012, and now 2020.
If I’m honest, I have to admit with as much pleasure as I took from correctly predicting that Junior would bail on UT at the first opportunity, this is giving me more.
Senator, my heart is full. What a wonderful time all of this is! Germy is leaving more devastation than Bootch did! Oh Happy Day!
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Ahh, bless their hearts:
“Right now this is a vicious cycle of futility and frustration and F-words unfit for family-friendly publications. Tennessee is eating itself, and every meal fattens the list of people saying serious success is no longer possible in Knoxville.”
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Didn’t get past FU has more dignity…isn’t the FU hc on a form of one year coach’s probation….dignity my ass, your ass…everybodies ass…
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Does anyone really think Peyton Manning has any idea of how to hire a football coach? Pass the popcorn.
For all of the complaining I do about Georgia football in the 90s, we never fell this low.
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Well, we did have Fran Tarkenton in the thick of things for a bit. At least most sports fans alive today can remember who Peyton was.
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all things Fran were weird for a while there.
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He still is weird. But he claims to be worth a ton of money… Cool… Throw some of that off to the athletic department. I’m sure Kirby needs a shiny new something.
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Tarkenton had at least some business experience in addition to his celebrity.
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That is still one of the funniest posts I’ve ever seen here. Dog in Fla posted a picture of “his” dog, Fran. Right in the middle of Fran’s Fromm over Eason schtick.
Turns out he was right.
I’ll have to go find that in the archives to see if it was as funny as I remember it.
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This is the truth. The 90s with Goff and then Donna were tough but I think the longest we’ve went without a Top Ten finish in my lifetime is from 1983 to 1992. Other more knowledgeable Georgia fans can help me here with the context but I don’t think Tennessee will ever be what it was during the 90s and even in the 90s they were getting back after having been not great in the 70s and 80s outside of a year or two of success here and there. They really are Nebraska with way uglier uniforms.
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Speaking of Peyton, this guy wants him to be head coach AND athletic director:
https://www.volnation.com/forum/threads/peyton-manning-needs-to-be-ad-and-coach.324879/
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They probably think he’s the CEO of Nationwide Insurance along with Brad Paisley.
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TN can’t even fall back on “thank God for Mississippi.”
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“…Tennessee ended up microwaving rotting salmon. ” That’s awesome. 🙂 🙂 🙂
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Best line I’ve heard in a long time.
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Yep, “microwaving rotting salmon” is a winner!
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Senator, there is no such thing as too high of a pile on this one , carry on !
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I sure hope SEC shorts comes through. This would be a good way to go.
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From beginning to end, this week’s short is amazing.
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Those guys are f’ing brilliant
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So good. And the addition of the actress to their troupe last year has been fantastic.
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Once Fulmer is put out to pasture I think rational minds will prevail and get at least a semi-decent coach. They’d love Manning, but don’t know if he wants that aggravation.
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I would hope they hired Manning. Sure, he would unite the fan base. He has no coaching experience unless you count the time he spends at the summer passing camp as coaching experience.
While Kirby had no head coaching experience, he had plenty of experience as a position coach, a coordinator, a recruiter and a trusted advisor to the best head coach the college game has ever seen.
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Manning is one of my favorite sports personalities now that he doesn’t play against us. I don’t harbor the ill will for him like my buddy Big D (who burned a Manning jersey in effigy after the 2016 game). PM was a great QB, one of the best to every play the game.
You’re right, vowelnation would love to see him as their coach. I wouldn’t necessarily hate to see it because, as you said, PM doesn’t have near the experience required to run a P-5 program. I don’ think he’s dumb enough to put his head on the chopping block.
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Next poster to mention PM as vols HC gets that oven mitt I won and never received.
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WTF is up with the oven mitt? What’d I miss?
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Why take a head coaching job at any level when you have the gig he does? I imagine Peyton invested his money well and can live very well off the earnings from his investments of his NFL salary, his endorsement deals, and his appearance fees.
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Exactly. What I like about it is the vol fans that have the “Save us Peyton Manning, You’re our only hope” mentality which makes me think “Why in the hell would he do that?” And if he did, he’s not a coach and ut has no talent. How do y’all think it would turn out?
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“Rational minds?”
That ship sailed a long time ago.
When long knives and daggers are out, rationality is out the window.
Tennessee will do the wrong thing again. Count on it.
They DGAS about ethics..that’s all a ruse to rip-off JP without paying him.
They’d hire Freeze in a New York minute if they could.
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Again, a lot of very dumb people writing about CFB who believe in the transitive property who think that because Jeremy Pruitt was the wrong choice that Greg Schiano was the right choice.
I can’t believe I have to say this, but is Mark Bradley really one of the only people out there besides Andy Staples who understands that the short-tempered Schiano would’ve had a meltdown dealing with the 24/7 media and fan pressure at a fishbowl job like Tennessee?
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Oh look, posted right there while I was typing my own! Great minds think alike, amiright? LOL.
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Gastr1, you don’t think much at all. This is certain.
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All emotion and no logic, amiright? LOL.
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Greg Schiano may have ultimately been unable to get Tennessee over the hump, but he would have been a damn sight better than Pruitt. Hell, he made Rutgers competitive already in one year without a proper offseason.
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It’s not that he doesn’t posses the coaching acumen to be able to do so, it’s that he doesn’t possess the temperament to survive a fishbowl job like Tennessee.
He was super-combative with the relatively benign Tampa sports media. At Rutgers the media didn’t care about him. He rated lower than the coach at Syracuse and Notre Dame for the area. Think about that region, where Yankees manager is at the top, and you have all the New York, New Jersey, and Philly sports teams that are way more important than Rutgers head coach.
There is no way Schiano survives Tennessee’s fishbowl, where in that little hillbilly town, Vawl football is a 24/7/365 industry with all the radio, all the newspaper, all the local TV, and all the internet media intensely laser-focused on him.
If he couldn’t handle Tampa media, there’s no way he could Tennessee.
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Eh, maybe. But he still would have been a better hire than Pruitt, who wasn’t exactly a master of the press conference. In the long run, they may be better off with the Pruitt hire, just because he flamed out so quickly. They could come out of the other side with a competent administration and coach…or they could fuck it all up royally again. I’d be okay with the latter.
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Well, that’s not gonna happen either. No coach worth a shit will take this job right now, not with the NCAA Sword of Damocles hanging over the head of the program as it is.
They’re gonna stick with Steele for the next 2-3 years. He’s their Matt Luke.
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Most college towns are fishbowls.
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New Brunswick isn’t.
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Don’t let Corch read that Pete Themel piece, he’s really gonna have a meltdown over what he says re: Greg Schiano. (Thamel is clearly all about emotion and possesses no logical capacity.)
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Thamel’s an idiot. One of the biggest coronabro’s in all of CFB media who spent considerable ink trying to get last season cancelled. He didn’t predict 3-7 player deaths like Dodd, but Thamel isn’t much of a logical thinker. Much like you.
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LOL. Love it, Corch, nice one
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To put it in context, is there a Thamel article saying Urban Meyer was going to be the head coach at USC in 2021?
If so, I’d say Pete is fos and shouldn’t be critiquing other people’s work.
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It’s like you don’t know what a joke is as opposed to a “prediction” and you’re also still with the pussy passive aggressive shit, Derek. Not that I expect any different from you.
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I get discouragement from the host if I go with my preferred aggressive-aggressive approach.
Btw: i seem to recall you being as insistent that meyer WOULD be the usc coach in 2021 as you are in everything else you post.
There’s nothing wrong with trying and ultimately being wrong. To err is human after all. Repetitive deceased equine beatings with no hint of acknowledgement of even the possibility of error, past, present or future, is…in context.
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Dude, when I’m wrong here I admit it. Unlike some others who tend towards the pedantic. Ooh, that was passive aggressive of me. I mean you. You’re pedantic.
If Corch doesn’t leave the Jags in 2024, I’ll change my handle again, as I did last year when USC didn’t fire Helton. Because, and wait for it… it’s a joke.
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Nothing more fitting than your handle being a joke.
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Better than being named “Derek” in real life.
It’s like an SAT Question:
All Dereks are tools, but not every tool is a Derek.
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Heck, don’t change your handle…we would like to see you coming.
But if you do change it, considering your girly ways…change it to Coach Precious. Thinks that would be awesome!
That would be a good fit and it’s cute.
Just don’t get discouraged and leave, some just don’t understand you.
Keep bringing it.:.
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love all the drama, name calling and expertise from you….you liven up the blog. you just seem to get your feelings hurt sometimes and get too emotional.
are you a chick??
nothing wrong with it if you are, just curious.
definitely not complaining….you bring knowledge, entertainment and you are always right. can’t wait to read more of your Kirby pointers for next season. maybe you can give him some pointers on offseason prep in the meantime so that we are prepared.
it’s all appreciated, I look forward to it….keep up the good work, “Corch”!.
GO DAWGS!!
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As always, your obsession is noted. Calvin Klein should take notes.
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you just nothing but knowledge, we all just kinda sit back and soak it up…..you’re special.
“There’s nobody else here, no one like me”
keep up the good work, “Corch”!
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Honestly senator, that guy has never had microwaved rotting salmon. How does he know how good it is? How can you judge something like that without ever being in the seafood arena?
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Am I being overly dramatic in that I thought tennessee had been relegated to the ash heap of college football history by the time of the Butch jones era and now there is certainly no recovering from this?
I just don’t see them being more than a punching bag for us, florida and alabama for, well, ever.
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They are certainly on a 3 year rebuild deal. Maybe longer if they get hit hard with sanctions (speaking of which, I always found the scholy reduction to be bad punishment of sorts)
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I could make the case after the NCAA and the transfer portal are done with Tennessee, their program could be in for a Fech type of rebuild. No way they can hire a head coach who asks for anything less than a 5-7 year contract with a large buyout.
Who in the hell is going to agree to come to Knoxville to be on the staff of a clear interim (Steele) with the rebuilding job that’s going to be happening?
I really hate it for Cade and his family. /s
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In just a few months, Tennessee, Vandy, and USC jr have set themselves back 20 years. Auburn tried, but should make it out of their tailspin no worse off (or better) than they were.
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“They are certainly on a 3 year rebuild deal.” Don’t you mean they’re certainly on ANOTHER 3 year rebuild deal?
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its their MO for sure.
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Yesterday, Tennessee Twitter was out in full force talking about the “integrity” of their school and how much class it took to admit the wrongdoing and clean house. Even assclown Dan Wolken was in on the act talking about how stable the Tennessee athletic department was just three years ago. I wanted to point out to the fans that expediency and integrity aren’t the same things. UT went on a witch hunt to get rid of a coach they didn’t like and forced out Phat Phil in the process. Like many of the national pundits said, what UT fans and the administration didn’t understand that Phat Phil was never qualified to run the athletic department. The most stability they have had was under Booch who they hated. And the idiots talking about UT being a top job in 2021 need to wake up. There are, in my personal estimation, six jobs in the SEC alone that are better jobs (Bama, UGA, UF, AU, LSU, and aTm).
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Older Tennessee fans are delusional. They think their program is admired and relevant.
Bless their hearts.
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That’s exactly right. They are perpetually stuck in 1997. We suffered that after the early 80’s for about 10 years. These guys still have not figured out just how bad they are.
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I suspect most readers of this site are within a decade of my generation, and the 1990s-inspired hate for Tennessee will never fade. However, it’s worth remembering that no one under the age of 30 probably has any recollection of when Tennessee was a relevant football program. For them, it must seem bizarre that a Vandy-like program has such a large stadium and such a delusional fanbase.
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“Tennessee’s worst loss of the year, by 11 points to Arkansas, midway through a 3–7 season.”
I’ll see Forde’s Arkansas loss and raise him a blowout against Kentucky in Knoxville.
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That Kentucky game was truly the turning point and was an ugly home loss. It came right after their loss to us. I think the pummeling that Kirby’s defensive adjustments gave them in the 2nd half of our game truly set them back. We broke their heralded win streak, and then they just spun out of control. Talk about letting a team beat you twice, then thrice, then…whatever comes after that a bunch of times.
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I tend to agree. I think that they really believed in their collective orange hearts that they had a chance of beating Georgia riding in on their win streak and the chants of “being back” after easily handling Missouri and a close win over South Carolina. The Kentucky game to follow up the loss to Georgia was the unravelling of the program. While a loss at home for the first time in a long time to UK would have been bad, the way that UT lost to UK was the killer. That was perhaps one of the worst performances by any team that I have ever seen. The score said UK bludgeoned them but UK wasn’t by any stretch wildly successful on offense. Were it not for the back-to-back pick sixes that JG threw in the second quarter, UT would have been leading at the half. Instead they were down 17-7. And the second half was even worse for UT. That was just God-awful football. 3-7 was bad. 3-7 with every loss being double digits was unthinkably bad.
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I for one would like to see UT get back to relevancy (after an appropriate period of misery ie once the Mays have left the building). It helps our strength of schedule to have them competitive. On a personal note, I take more satisfaction in breaking their hearts when they really think they have a chance than to watch a baby seal clubbing like it has been recently.
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Hell no. Fuck’em and the Fat Phil they road in on.
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I hate all things URNGE, but I love having UT or UF finish second to us in the SEC East with the only thing that kept them from the brass ring is a loss to us. Having the brass ring with in reach and then snatching it away is a lot more fun. It multiplies their misery and paranoia.
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SoS is kinda overrated really. Bama played jack didly outside of LSU many years running, i looked at their schedules over the last decade once not too long ago and it was sad. Win out, win the SEC.
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this. I too think SOS is over rated, win out and you’re in. I think the current iteration of clemson would still win their fair share of conference and national titles if they played in the sec but I don’t think being perenially head and shoulders better than the rest of their respective conference has hurt them, ohio state or, I hate to say it, alabama.
I have no problem with Tennessee never being relevant again.
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Georgia fans have gone back and forth on this, and I have stayed the course that the path to the MNC is paved with dump-trucking lesser teams. Sure, I like big regular season match-ups, of course, but thats not necessarily the path. I am still not for big openers, because anything can happen, And the best team over the season may not have won. People just got to pick their poison. We play a slate of teams that are burning down in 2021, and the narrative will go with it (although not with Bama in the past) and I don’t care. Freaking annihilate all of them, win out, stay healthy.
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As long as it’s set up the way it is now, you’re correct accept for one thing: Even Clemson schedules one “good” OOC game per year to burnish their schedule.
Our problem is when we went on that scheduling binge a couple of years back, instead of pacing these games so we’d get one per season, we’re having to play OU and Texas in the same year or whatever it is. Or Clemson and Oregon in the same year.
That’s just suicide.
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Texas Dawg…We don’t need to wish for a relevant Tennessee program. We can hope for a relevant Kentucky. We can wish for Vandy to be second worst in the East, just a ahead of Tennessee.
That seems much more palatable to me, anyway.
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I don’t enjoy Vandy or Kentucky misery nearly as much as I enjoy UT or UF misery.
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My favorite thing about this shit show is seeing Tennessee fans think their program is attractive enough to steal HCs from P5 programs.
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Where does the “I can’t believe they hired Pruitt, he will run that program into the ground” club meet? Lots of us were saying that.
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Tennessee Mongers: Jeremy you’re fired.
Jeremy: What about my severance pay?
Tennessee Mongers: Here ya go.
Jeremy: What is that?
Tennessee Mongers: Asparagus.
Jeremy: Huh
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the more I read, the Chancellor deserves a helluva lot more negative publicity than she is getting/deserves.
It is obvious that Tennessee is avoiding a buyout….while admitting the violations. I mean, why admit??…make them prove it.
Don’t really care for Pruitt and HATE UT… but hope he sues and wins.
Somewhere, the blame starts with those that are approving the hires (AD and HC).
They’ve been this way for almost 20 years now, doubt they will recover anytime soon
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Just my opinion of what the truth is here and some of my own thoughts.
1). Pruitt wasn’t ready. And the fact that Alabama had him near the top of their replacement list for Saban is staggering to me. But Pruitt was way out of league and clearly over his head. And it bit him, Fulmer and the program in the butt.
2). Pruitt is a very good defensive coordinator and comes with that personality. He’ll go back to doing that and be quite good at it.
3). I don’t believe for a minute that Fulmer resigned on his own. I think he was strongly encouraged to resign, so that he could save what little was left of his reputation.
4). Look for a lawsuit from Pruitt and look for the threat to ‘name names’ in this cheating scandal that have not come to light yet, that will include other parts of the athletic department. They took a scorched Earth policy with Pruitt, and gave him no incentive to walk away quietly. I expect him to burn this bridge in half. This story is only getting started.
4). Any inkling that I might get for feeling sorry for UT is stopped in it istracks. Just have to remind myself of just how arrogant Fulmer, the team and the fan base was for about 15 years. Manning leading the band after beating Georgia in Athens and Bama in Tuscaloosa. Karma is a bitch.
5). Manning is not the great guy his marketing team leads you to believe he is. Let’s not forget that he had to settle a lawsuit with a UT trainer after sexually assaulting her in the locker room. They had Peyton Manning day in 2017 and scheduled it for the Georgia game. It is absolutely the icing on the cake for that game.
https://www.teamspeedkills.com/2017/9/30/16391404/georgia-vs-tennessee-2017-final-score-bulldogs-destroy-vols-in-knoxville-sec-football-ncaa-college
6). No sympathy from me. They have earned every bit of the misery through the absolute arrogance they showed through the 90’S and early part of the 2000’s. And the best part… Mark Richt is the guy who took them down…
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Yeah, Peyton is a funny guy on TV, but he’s got some baggage he’s paid to keep hidden. And I’m sure the suits at UT know about that and aren’t looking to bring that out into public view again.
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2) Pruitt is likely to have a show-cause attached to his name for a few years. He won’t be a DC for anyone for awhile. Probably not even an off-field analyst like Booch. That is why you’re right in that he will fight tooth and nail got a partial buyout.
5) Sexual assault is a bit much. More like it was a stupid, gross prank that a dude in his late teens or early 20’s would think is funny. To put it another way, if that was sexual assault, than I know many 18-22 year old Marines who did nothing but sexually assault each other for years.
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Boys will be boys, amirite?
https://www.wdsu.com/article/alabama-fan-sentenced-in-bcs-sexual-assault-case-of-lsu-fan-1/3359929
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See what I mean, Derek: pedantic.
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For under $4 you can never make the same mistake:
https://www.secondsale.com/i/the-merriam-webster-dictionary/9780877799306?gclid=CjwKCAiAo5qABhBdEiwAOtGmbstqMZY9EA7ILwD8vl0PZUfVejrO5EgZzjnD4_VcqQhIADMrTCH4ZhoCpBkQAvD_BwE
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And it keeps going.
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I think when a woman is doing her job of examining your ankle and you allegedly push your butt and genitals into her face that is sexual assault. If that’s a practical joke your friends must be a real riot.
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First point – that makes sense – I actually hope that he can avoid that – but he’s been served up.
My opinion, but anything that involves your private parts in the face of someone else without their consent is sexual assault. So we can agree to disagree on the 2nd.
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I honestly never knew about Manning and any sexual assault charges. So I read a little. NDAs signed, payouts given. But I can’t seem to understand how he is getting his ankle checked, naked, and then put his
“buttocks and genitals” in the person’s face. “Hi doctor, my foot hurts” “ok, take off your pants”. Regardless, some dumbassery was going on.
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I suspect Tennessee will follow the path they followed in basketball with Rick Barnes, simply because it has paid off for them.
I don’t know if there are any older, proven winners that got shoved out the door like Mack Brown out there at this point though.
I’d wager Mark Richt gets a call, though I think he’s enjoying retirement too much to answer.
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A little lite reading if you need a happy bedtime story
Timeline of ‘Serious violations of NCAA rules’ that led to firing of Pruitt & 9 other football staffers
https://www.wkrn.com/sports/tennessee-volunteers/timeline-of-serious-violations-of-ncaa-rules-that-led-to-firing-of-pruitt-9-other-football-staffers/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow&fbclid=IwAR1oj8V2hEfureEnpQ88Vi6o9OEURMJRN9WyRQ_wF_8N0kkj15TD18pDaAI
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To understand why I hate UT in just one snap shot of a lot of things I hate about UT:
When Mark Richt was dealing with “exciting from an alley” and “did not know his middle name”….well, this was UT –
Tyler Bray and buddy were throwing beer bottles off a roof top at a car, which got the neighbor to call the police. The police showed up and “called UT to see if they were still players”.
That’s right. I am not creative enough to make that up.
No charges or fines as I recall.
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We know that everywhere else in the SEC and other big CFB towns, even the CFB towns that are state capitals, their police always defer to the Athletic Department to handle discipline. We know that. We know that the ACC-PD and the Kampus Kops are overzealous not only with athletes at Georgia, but students as well. The number of times I saw those dicks give out fucking JAYWALKING tickets trying to find out if a minor was intoxicated or whatever downtown was insane. One ticket like that would be insane. I saw well over a dozen in five years.
The cops in Athens suck. We know this. Their job is to keep the city and county coffers full from the bullshit fines they hand-out, and the Michael Adams version of Georgia made it impossible for football players to just be dumb kids who make mistakes like parking their scooter in an alley because they couldn’t find a parking spot downtown.
But we know all this. We just have to live with it. It sucks, but you literally can’t fight city hall. The town and the county don’t see themselves as protecting and serving the students, they see the students (and their parents) as ATMs.
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Dan Patrick spilling the beans from his source. Actual cash stuffed in literal bags and handed out to recruits. Happy Meals indeed. I don’t like what the last few sentences of the article imply… We shall see.
Saturday Down South: Happy Meal special: Dan Patrick shares information he’s received regarding Tennessee’s recruiting violations.
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/happy-meal-special-dan-patrick-shares-information-hes-received-regarding-tennessees-recruiting-violations/
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Dan Patrick’s CFB “sources” are generally for shit.
He reported last year that Wisconsin was going to immediately shutter their team for the rest of the season and turn Camp Randall into a covid-hospital, I shit you not.
Always take anything Patrick says about CFB with a massive grain of salt. What he doesn’t know could fill the Grand Canyon.
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