Another Playpen, another reader request. This one comes from Mark:
… have readers list one SEC or UGA topic they believe in that runs against the grain or is generally unpopular.
For example: I am very happy that Mizzou is in the SEC. CoMo is lovelier than any SEC town besides Athens, their fans are nice and bring a bit of a Midwestern touch to the conference, and their football team is sometimes a tough out (two division titles compared to none for Ole Miss, aTm, Vandy and UK).
I’m looking forward to seeing some of the responses to this. Have at it in the comments.
I’d prefer to drop GT and add Clemson.
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there would got their playoff aspirations, it would be rare. they have it made in the ACC.
but I do agree, they are more of a SEC team than most.
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I’d prefer to keep the guaranteed win over a long-standing in-state rival, add Clemson, and drop games against FCS opponents.
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Missouri sucks…borderline Big 12 Program.
Not playing GT last year was refreshing….it’s a no win situation.
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Tech not having a reason to live makes sense to me.
We should consider rotating tech, state, southern and kennesaw.
Why? Because fuck ‘em.
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now that is a great idea
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It’s a damn near guaranteed win situation.
I can see how one might get that confused though.
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Oh, and Mizzou’s two east titles were because UGA and UF were being totally mismanaged. I don’t see that happening anytime soon again.
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My contrarian SEC take (I guess): Missouri and Arkansas would be better fits in the Big 12, where all their historical rivals.
Then, either keep the conference at 12 teams with 2 annual rotating cross divisionals, or if they insist on 14, look at VT and NC State, who are very good cultural fits (this might screw up the East/West balance, but no worse than having Missouri in the East does).
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Obviously the problem here would be having a conference that stretches from Texas to VA is a mess, but IIWII. Geography ceased mattering a long time ago.
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It already stretches from Texas to Kentucky. College Station and Lexington are already a long way from each other…Blacksburg is only a couple hours farther.
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True dat
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They all take planes now anyhow, so 30 minutes further in a plane isnt too big a deal. But for fans, and regional rivalry, it stinks.
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I grew up with the Atlanta Braves in the NL West, so I was prepared for meaningless division geography in sports.
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My take has always been that aTm and Mizzou shouldn’t be in the SEC — as stated their traditional rivals are elsewhere.
But Mizzou is in the SEC and as such the East is a better fit than the West. Missouri borders 3 other SEC states with 4 schools. 2 states and 3 schools are in the East, 1 state and 1 school is in the West.
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The geography thing isn’t that big of a deal for football, since there are only 4 road games and they’re on Saturday anyway. It’s the smaller, non revenue sports that the travel is a beating for.
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I personally hate going to the WLOCP. I detest Jacksonville and don’t have the scratch to party up the coast, so I guess I’ve never really grasped the joy in it, even though every time I’ve been we’ve won. Only loss was in 93 when I was at the downpour game when Spurrier called a timeout that negated a touchdown pass that could’ve tied it.
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Ive never been. And its because of $$ mostly. My first time to JAX a few years ago – i was like ‘thats it’. Ok, so people drink at bars at a mall basically. lol.
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Should say, first time to JAX to go to Rockville. I’ve never attended a game.
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Yeah, there’s just a slight difference between going to Jax and attending the Cocktail Party.
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I feel you. I dont need to drink or “party” though.
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I don’t need to, Chuck ol buddy. But dammitman! I still want to.
Fuck those motherfuckers.
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I agree with both you guys. My gripe about the WLOCP is that by not playing the game home and away a lot of UGA fans (and to be fair A lot of FU fans too) never get to see Georgia and Florida play in person. Do the math: the Swamp and Sanford each hold about 90,000. Gator Bowl holds about 75,000. That’s 15,000 fans of each school every other year that get screwed out of seeing that game. Plus, it messes up the SEC schedule as every other year Georgia only gets 3 SEC home games. We complain about how lousy the home games are—this game in Jacksonville is a big reason why.
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I think this is fairly stated. But I do appreciate being 1 of 3 historic annual neutral site games. I never hear Texas and OK being upset about it. It is a chance for south georgia fans and north florida georgia fans (there are some of us! 12!) border folks also. I just have issue with $500 tickets plus adding on travel, food, hotels, etc. Even if I am lotto rich, thats still insane. And if I pay that kind of money, i don’t also want the traffic and the pain. But ultimately, JAX is a ton of money for this blue collar working dude, and thats the #1 reason I’ve never been. I did have money active duty but then I’d have to add plane tickets and not be in Iraqistan.
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It works the same way for those out of towners traveling to Athens for a big game and staying overnight.
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Which is why I don’t go to Athens anymore either. I used to hit a game a year or 2. But at least with Athens I can tour my alma mater and such. See some folks maybe, I am sure some people I know still tailgate in the same spots. Either way, football priced itself out of attendance for me.
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I’m curious if hotels and Airbnbs keep the “2 night minimum” they frequently had around home games in place this fall. I get it from their perspective and wanting to lock in more money, but it kills the “it’s a night game, I don’t want to drive back to Atlanta” option for many of us.
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I do enjoy the tradition very much of going to Jacksonville. I
ve made many I
ll call them gameday friends I only there once a year. For my family it`s a lot of fun. Something that continues in some form forever.I also see the other side. Its a home game for FU. If you go you`ll always notice the UGA fans are there early and the FU fans just drive in.
My other problem is we never get them at home or get inside their stadium.
Players from both sides should each get 1 road and home game.
My solution is every 4 years has two games in Jacksonville along with 1 game on each home campus.
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trust me, jacksonville is las vegas compared to gainesville.
you ain’t missing nothing in gainesville. the only good thing to come from that shit town is Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and the Eagles dude (Felder?)
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I like the game in Jax and prefer the Atlantic coast beaches over the gulf coast.
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Yep. One of college football’s few remaining traditions. I want to make a trip to the Cotton Bowl one year to see the Red River Shootout for the same reason. One of college football’s traditions.
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Agreed on the RRS.
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It’s very unique, with the state fair all around for pregame atmosphere. It’s too early and feels weird getting drunk at that hour around a bunch of kids playing games. I went for the first time in 2019. (Only upside was missing the face plant against SC.) Stadium and surrounding area is a POS, but Dallas is a short Uber away. Good to experience once but it’ll take a good crew and plan to convince me to go again.
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I prefer a beach, period. 🙂
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Emerald coast grumbles.
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My Dawg! I’ll be there in July.
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lemme know – tankertoad.dawgsports@gmail.com
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You got it, pal.
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There’s enough folks here on the Gulf side already, so thank you! Everyone, please tell your peeps that the Gulf side sucks and to stay away!
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Nuke this post.
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Fund this man!
I’ve had quite the opposite experience. 2 wins. Several more losses….
I agree that Jax, after college anyway, is a rich man’s trip. But I wouldn’t deny to anyone the opportunity at sun, sand, golf, fishing, football and the annual celebration of the repeal of the Volstead Act if they got it like that.
I’d aspire to incorporate it into my annual agenda one day.
Besides the bonus is no gators in Athens. And no dawgs in hog town. Why not? I don’t get the complaints at all.
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Don’t like Jacksonville and the parking situation around that stadium is ridiculous. That said, I have a friend that lives on SSI, so that solves that situation. I really do enjoy the event.
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JP***
Spurrier did not call a time out. NO time out was called before or during the play. I was there sitting in the freezing rain and Stevie just chunked his hat on the ground which I guess was a sign to the refs that THEY should call a time out. I am still pissed.
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I should’ve put that in air quotes. I agree we were all perplexed. I was in the Redcoats at the time and the whole thing happened right in front of us. I got so damned excited when Zeier hit our receiver that I chipped a tooth.
Guess I could add to this that I hate Jax and Florida for that reason alone.
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Aaron Murray did the right thing by not clocking it at the goal line and the real problem there was a freshman RB missing his block.
(Am I doing this right?)
Also, historically, UGA is not a great program but a very good one, and to judge ourselves against Alabama is malpractice. Even being in title conversations is something we should appreciate because of our program’s history.
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This is correct and the pass was there.
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Should have thrown to the wide side of the field to TK. Short side vs. their best corner and where the blitz was coming from was the wrong read. Todd’s block wasn’t great but the play was throwing left.
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The main reason for “he should have clocked it” is an assumption we would have scored if he had. But who knows? The O was rolling, the Bama D was on its heels, Murray was on fire, I can’t criticize the split second decision that attacking was better than giving Nick time to set his D. The fact that it didn’t work out doesn’t make it the wrong decision. C’est le guerre.
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I think “the Bama D was on its heels” is an aspect that’s often overlooked. If I’m remembering Richt’s post-game comments correctly, they didn’t want to clock it and allow Bama time to substitute. Plus clocking it takes a couple of seconds too. You throw the 50-50 ball to Malcolm Mitchell and if it’s an incompletion you get at least one more play.
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Except Bama still had a timeout
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True, but they didn’t use it. If we clock it, then Bama gets to see what offensive alignment we come up with, then they call the timeout to adjust, then maybe we adjust to their adjustment…
I still think it was the right call to go for it in that situation.
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Agreed. My point is, the “we had them on their heels” argument never made sense to me.
If they were on their heels, they would have called timeout.
Saban and Smart were comfortable playing it out with the guys they had on the field.
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Maybe Nick was concerned about giving UGA time to set a play. If you trust your guys, you don’t have to micromanage them. Both sides could have done the internal math and decided to roll with what they had, rather than give the other side a chance to breathe. But if you don’t think bama was on its heels after we flew down the field, you saw, it differently than I did.
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I clearly saw it differently and believe video of Murray and the UGA sideline shows it.
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Why would you use the time out when the other team is clearly deciding to clock it or not as they’re running down the field. A DC wouldn’t give the offense a chance to get on the same page? The issue wasn’t to clock the ball or not, it was the QB, OC and HC didn’t appear to be on the same page.
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Nah, Murray looked at Richt and Bobo as they were going down the field to set up at the 5 and he got the “Go” sign. All three were on the same page.
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correct. At the time, I was all for spiking. But Richt explaining they had prepared for just this scenario, I was cool with after that. I believe they felt it and it was there.
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I see both sides of this argument. Spiking the ball was the percentage play. Richt and Bobo took their shot and got a bad break that the ball was batted right to a wide receiver (the opposite of the interception bouncing off a DL’s helmet) who is trained to catch the ball. If the batted ball just falls to the ground, we get one more play with the game on the line.
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all of this. Either call is good. We had practiced that moment, so that is cool. What horrible luck on a batted ball.
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Yup. If the pass is batted away incomplete, the clock stops anyway and you’re not materially out any more time than you are for the spike. Spiking is for when you need to set up a FG or you don’t have a play or you need to set up a one last play situation. Any other situation, what they tried to do is a more efficient use of a down imo.
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That’s the key point, Chuck. Bama LB made a great play which was a 1 out of 10 type play. 90% of the time, he doesn’t touch the ball or affect the play.
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Also, Gurley waited for the defender to come to him instead of stepping up to meet him closer to the line of scrimmage. If the defender leaps from a foot or two further away the pass isn’t deflected.
Small detail makes a HUGE difference in the outcome of that play.
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Agreed 100% about not clocking it. I can never seem to find the clip of Jon Gruden and Aaron Murray talking about it during his “Gruden’s QB Camp” segment, but I’m pretty sure Gruden says the same thing about Gurley not stepping up into the block.
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I liked Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel. I’ll have to think about something foosball centric.
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I liked Watchmen.
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dang. lol.
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I don’t get what all the grumbling was about Watchmen. I’ve read the graphic novel, and the movie seemed like a shot-for-shot replica of that except for some aspects of the ending.
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My take, too. That’s why I like it.
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Georgia is not an elite program. We are very good, but not great. Additionally, Alabama is far superior to us in every way possible (talent, depth, coaching, mentality, facilities etc) and we will never catch them as long as Saban is there. And I am ok with this.
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AHHH!….you’re just looking for a little loving this morning, right?
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Hey, that’s my line! But yes, we may steal one from them, but when we leaves, I don’t imagine we’ll see a dynasty like that for a while. UGA will never have the institutional buy-in that they have in Alabama, and I think that’s probably healthy.
It’s ESPN and the playoffs that have made a 10 or 11 win season with wins over your rivals seem like a failure, and it sucks that it’s always “all or nothing” now. Y’all, we have OWNED Auburn for 20 years, and I think I’ll trade that for some hardware because I like their suffering more than I like my own enjoyment.
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Very much agreed RE: institutional buy in. Not sure there is another school with as much of that as Bama. Fairly certain we will never have it to their extent.
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One of the Dawg Sports guys pointed out on Twitter last night that there are people driving cars now that have never seen Auburn win in Sanford Stadium.
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There are Techies who can buy booze, but have never seen their team beat us at Historic Mark Richt Field…
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LSU 2013 is not the best game ever in Sanford Stadium.
For me, that was Clemson 1984.
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To respond directly to Mark, I don’t care about Columbia, Missouri. I’m never going there for a game. Missouri should be in the Big 12-2 where their traditional blood rival (Kansas) sits.
Same for Texas A&M. It’s borderline criminal that the Aggies and the Longhorns don’t play anymore.
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Thats on Texas though. I dont blame ATM for figuring out how to grow and be treated equally. Texas single handedly killed the B12. They should just be independent I reckon.
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It may be on Texas that they don’t play, but it doesn’t change the fact that Texas A&M happens to be Missouri with a drawl. A&M should be in the Big 12-2 as well.
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I think ATM should be in the big 12. I also understand they needed to do something to get out of B12 ran by UT. Nuance.
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I was at both. You have a point with Sons of Clem “84.
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I was at both as well. Actually, flew in from HHI for that game with my Dad and his boss at the time who is a HUGE Clemmins fan. We was gracious enough to take us in his Lear jet, but we had to listen to him yammer about Clemson the whole flight to Athens.
Let’s just say it was mighty quiet on the flight back home after the game!
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I heard that silence Aug 30, 2003 all the way to Pawleys Island.
Those taters thought they were gonna beat the Dawgs.
Hellllllllll no.
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For me it would probably be October 5, 1991. Watched the Braves clench the NL West pennant that afternoon in the Worst-to-First Season with their win and the Dodgers loss. Then went to the night game in Sanford where the Dawgs handed #6 Clemson their only defeat of the regular season and freshman Zeier threw two TDs on the #1 defense in the nation and the defense stunned Clemson with three INTs and two fumble recoveries. What a night post-game walking around Athens with all the barking and tomahawk chopping going on!
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I was 10 and my parents took me to this game. I’ve still never experienced anything like it. The Braves winning the pennant was so big back then it wouldn’t even make sense today. They had been abysmal. When they won the pennant in ’91, the South was united like no other. I stepped down to my seats in Sec 123 as the stadium opened up, EVERYONE – red or orange – was doing the tomahawk chop. I’ve still never had a similar feeling of united joy between two fanbases in a stadium like that.
And then we thoroughly whooped their asses.
My favorite memory is leaving the stadium, and shuffling down the packed concourses, and the whole crowd would alternately chant “Great…to be…a Georgia Bulldawg”, and then the chop, and then back again. It took like 30 minutes to get out of the stadium, and this after a 27-12 blowout. Nobody left early that day, and everyone had fun.
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I was one of them!
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I was a student at that game. I don’t think I’ve experienced anything as electric as the atmosphere of that entire day.
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That’s the best game I’ve ever been to in Sanford. Others were great, but that one stands out the most.
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Creature Comforts’ beer is overrated. Scott Howard is a terrible play by play announcer. Eric Zeir is a terrible color commentator. Florida co-eds are way hotter than ours.
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That’s enough heat to warm up Texas.
Wow.
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I’ve never liked Scott Howard and he doesn’t seem to be growing on me either. But that might be because I had Larry for so long. I’m not sure anyone could measure up. However, I do think we could do better than Scott.
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No doubt. Just listen to Eli Gold one afternoon. Leave it to Bama to plug a yankee in the covetted play by play radio position and completely knock it out of the park. They seem to get everything right.
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And Munson was from where exactly?
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My only point is that you would think that in Bama, of all places, they would have gone with a local who sounded like their listeners, but instead they went with someone who is just plain good, and it did not matter that he was from NY.
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Apparently he was from another dimension since they don’t seem to make them like that any more. Combo play by play, cheerleader, storyteller, superfan.
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Minnesota.
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yes, thats the point. Im a 95 grad myself btw
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I tend to think a distinctive midwestern accent, I suppose a fast talking delivery, is excellent for play-by-play. Something about that accent and delivery just sounds like what I imagine as a proverbial voice coming out of the radio. You know its a good radio voice when there are moments that it can’t be distinguished from bad reception.
The problem with Howard and many modern play by play guys is that they’ve been exposed to too much TV. It was ingrained in Munson’s DNA that the listener could NOT see what was happening, so he had to describe every visual detail. I get really annoyed when the crew lets the color guy analyze ad nauseum into the next play so that the play-by-play guy has no time to describe pre-snap formations and movements.
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And then there is Herbstreit.
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True, but at least when Herbstreit is yapping you’re actually looking at the play. Too many radio broadcasts the color guy is talking about the last play and then…”zamir white right side for five yards”…..[back to color guy]. Larry knew that since you couldn’t see it, it didn’t matter that his call carried on for a few moments after the live action stopped, and he used that natural cushion–just a few seconds in the scheme of things–to describe in visual detail what happened. Today’s crews might as well say DID YOU SEE THAT ?! /No, MFer, I did not see that.
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I’m sure Scott is a nice guy but he is a terrible radio announcer. He screams calling a three yard dive play but leaves out every key point, like how much did the play gain. Literally every other play by play announcer I’ve heard is better.
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I should have that job.
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I was on tap to be 3rd wheel for friday night football here until Michael happened.
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We went from the GOAT (Munson) to a screaming goat (Howard).
Ole Miss has the hottest co-eds.
We are basically Michigan Of The South (on the football field).
Bama’s band is even better than ours.
That said, I will remain a Dawg until the bitter end – I hate bandwagon fans.
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brilliant. and agree (although I know nothing of beer but when a beer is from Athens it automatically gets extra dawg points)
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I don’t think it’s unpopular to say Howard and Zeier are horrible. If I were AD, I’d demote Howard to color and install Dantzler as play-by-play.
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Howard never asked a Co-Ed on Sri what color panties she was wearing or have a string of DUIs a mile long. Dantzler has no one to blame for himself for not having his dream job.
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*allegedly of course
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I was not aware of these things. When did this happen?
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1 and 4 SMDH; 2 and 3, well, yeah.
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I think you misspelled trashy.
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Athena and Tropicalia are overrated, Reclaimed Rye is underrated.
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Bibo pilsner is horse piss. Would rather drink MGD, and that is saying a lot.
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Well now you’ve done it. To be contrarian, I’ll be sampling Bibo ASAP.
On second thought, Miller Lite masquerades as a pilsner…Eeeew.
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Nuke this post.
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Someone likes their women a bit on the trashy side…
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Okay, here is one that will get people upset. I loved Munson for many years, but his in his last few seasons he got curmudgeonly and just bad.
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Agreed, HM. I recall one early cupcake game so warm we decided to fish and listen to the game in the boat. Munson muses, “Looks like snow. Feels like snow.”
WTF Larry? It’s 70 degrees.
He got worse from there on. Turned the radio off.
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Agree with all your takes except the Gator co-eds remark!
Wild Leap brewery in Lagrange blows Creature Comforts away and besides Tropicalia and Classic City Lager I don’t think any of their other beers are that great.
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Agree Wild Leap (I wish it were closer to get their brewery releases) is better but it’s not like Creature Comforts is as terrible as being made out by some. Sadly, Creatures is in full price gouge mode to finance their California venture or something. I joked with the guys at the beer store, it’s gotten cheaper to buy a pint in a can on the Eastside than a 10oz pour at the brewery. A lot of the locals are slowly souring on Creatures because of the tax breaks the brewery leveraged while raising the prices (but we know how the locals bitch about EVERYTHING). Creature Comforts will keep rolling because it’s Downtown and everyone chasing the dragon of the good ol Athens days (which we all know we won’t get back) hit it up. Interestingly, I meet lots of fans from enemy teams at Creatures when they’re in town for the games and it’s a pretty big part of their trip, but yeah, the place is overrated, lol.
Check out Normaltowwn Brewing, small place off of Chase St.- -Good guys and when you walk in and there’s a pic of Sony winning the Rose Bowl on the wall.
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I always considered Florida’s coeds among the worst. I would allow LSU or Auburn.
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everything except the co-eds, yes.
CC has 1 good beer.
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The money pouring in to Athens is slowly destroying its soul. Dive bars are charging $7-10/drink because they can, rental properties aren’t affordable for the average college student (and the cheap ones still left are being replaced), and ticket prices (shows, games, everything) are on the rise or already exorbitant.
Athens’ affordability made it the preeminent college town, conducive to fast living and loud music. Long term, I don’t see how struggling musicians will be able to continue living there, or why they would choose to.
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Thank you.
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I heard from my aunt that she heard that The Grill is closing? Is there even a downtown Athens without that staple?
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Athens has always changed and grown. each generation talks about how they were there in the good old days. But the rate of growth and increase in cost REALLY has exploded in the last 2 decades. I feel like for many many years, even though it changed, you would still recognize it. Its a big small city now. I guess between athens and student pop, its bigger than a lot of places.
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As far as I know, the Grill isn’t closing. Do you know where she heard that?
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I don’t know; it might have just been the rumor mill that passed it down? If others don’t know, maybe there’s nothing to it?
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NOOOOO!!!!!!
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I’m not sure that’s a contrarian point of view.
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When we bought in Boulevard 23 years ago it was still a mix of the “service industry”, music people and residential. While there is a lot of complaining about people being priced out I can testify that there are still plenty of service and music people, they just went ahead and bought while it was still semi-affordable. The neighborhood is not the same but there are way more families with kids here and I like it.
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I lived on Boulevard my last 2 years in college ! Dump of a house amongst some of the prettiest priciest places in town.
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Yep, there are some real ratholes mostly owned by people from the surrounding counties and they don’t give a shit about the houses or the neighborhood.
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Hurricane Michael has revealed a whole ton of properties owned by some LLC with a PO Box 300 miles NE of here. Way of property it seems.
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The White Tiger is a cool restaurant. At least it used to be. Had a small menu that changed daily, IIRC, but the quality of whatever they did was excellent.
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It’s still the same. They got a bit lucky in that they have that window that they have been able to distribute the food easily and the picnic tables have been a life saver this year. The owner is a classically trained chef from the Culinary Institute in NYC and his credo is “Food Without and Attitude.” It’s hard to find BBQ and vegetarian in the same joint.
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You’re not wrong, but it’s still cheaper than most of atlanta and if you’re a musician in Georgia those are your two best options of where to live.
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Every bar has always charged what they could because they could.
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Illini, what general location is boulevard? I’ve not worked in Athens for several years now and can’t place it.
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Boulevard runs from Barber to Pound Street and historic district runs to Park. Boulevard and Normaltown are sort of interchangeable but Normaltown extends across Prince so it it bigger.
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https://www.boulevardathens.com
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Runs parallel to Prince, as you are driving into Athens on Prince it is on left.
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Yep. I’ve only heard it called Boulevard a couple of times, always just considered it part of Normaltown. We used cut through those neighborhoods coming from the supply house out to the Navy School or hospital. When I was training for a race I’d start at the Y pool, head down to Prince, down to Milledge, across to Hill, work back to Oglethorpe, then on to Hawthorne and back to the Y. I think it’s about 3 miles.
The Texaco on the bypass side of Prince, on the corner has a great greasy spoon. “The Bread Basket”.
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It became a historic district in 1988 and I’m sure it took a lot longer for the name to become used much. The Bread Basket is a Standard station and is on Chase and Boulevard. The Texaco on Prince is a Pizza joint now.
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I should have said “the gas station”. I left in ’14 so memory may be a little fuzzy. Still a great greasy spoon joint.
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I live in Oconee but run down Prince every weekend. I try to stay off Boulevard because it’s too hilly especially on the end near Pound Street. If you come up for a game this year we could run together it helps me drink more and I like to think I can get a good idea about the game by what the atmosphere is like on Milledge at 7 am.
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Poke you head in Normal hardware and say hi to my dog on Sat am.
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Will do, y’all have helped me lots of times before.
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My rapidly deteriorating “Geezer Knees” don’t like road work anymore. The next time I’m planning on being in Athens for gameday will be when Senator does his next tailgate (I promised him a sixer) but I will throw my bike in the truck when I go and keep you company. Those early morning weekend runs are a blast and the scenery ain’t bad IIRC…
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God hates us. For whatever reason, he (or, she) loves Alabama. Or, maybe it’s….Satan! danacarvey.jpg
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South Carolina is a rival. Fourth on the list, but a rival nonetheless.
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Moving the GOTW from CBS is a long term mistake for the SEC.
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Sankey’s the only one that thinks that’s a contrarian take….
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5th at best for me – I could make the case they are 6th when you include Clemson.
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Who isnt a rival at that point then?
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I think the principal reason to play college football should be to get a degree and players should have to take a minimum of 15 credit hours and maintain a 3.0 GPA.
They should also have to meet entrance requirements.
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Our fans are bottom third of the league at knowing the cheers. Even on this board, I’d bet fewer than half can name the fight song. I’d bet less than 1% can tell me the words.
Our fans are mid-tier at best for bringing the noise. I’ve noticed some improvement over the last few years, but we still have a lot of folks who sit on their hands and wait for something to happen.
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And 99% of that 1% will be former Redcoats
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THWGT
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“Hail to Georgia Down in Dixie”? Is that it? Don’t know the words but I can hum the tune.
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I’ve gotten some funny looks singing the fight song after extra points. Men’s Glee Club FTW
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Former glee club member here. I always thought if we taught the crowd the modified line “to that college cheer we’ll raise a beer! . . . we could bring back that song to the games.
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Most likely because the Redcoats didn’t play the full song for many years. I don’t remember the full story, but I’m sure it had something to do with the word “Dixie,” and I’m somewhat surprised that they are allowed to play it now.
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The Illini-Mizzou “border battle” was great and I miss it.
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I made the first trip to Mizz for the old man football game. Their fans had no clue what was coming their way. My second trip was enough to know I
ll never go back. It
s just nothing special for me. The people are great its just another blah stadium.The one place I`m not going back to is USCe. Their fans are horrible and the stadium suxs. I was there for the hurricane game. That was the first time I ever watched a score board flash evacuate the stadium now. They had no plan we were trapped in the aisles as lighting crashed around us. One light fixture behind us exploded. We did come home with a win. I know it would never happen. Given the choice I would rather play Clemson than USCe.
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Columbia, SC is legit one of the worst cities in America and that stadium is in the middle of a gd industrial park. It’s awful.
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Completely agree about Columbia SC. It’s a larger, hotter, bizarre version of Macon, minus the winsome municipal charm. The locals act like it’s the center of the civilized universe, rather than a crappy third rate river town in the middle of a third rate state with a fourth rate football program. Their fans are lunatics who have Bama arrogance despite their Vandy trophy case. I’m not interested in ever going back there, and would celebrate the SEC trading them to the Southern Conference for a case of athletic tape and a couple of coolers.
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A friend’s father gave me his tickets for the 86 game there. Excellent seats in the midst of wealthy, old cocks. I didn’t realize I was kicking up such a fuss until early the second half an octogenarian sitting in front of me turned around and assaulted me. Old bastard was going for my throat.
“Woof woof now you sonofabitch!”
Time to go, Sweetie.
Those old boosters were just mean to us the entire stumbling, bumbling trip down the aisle. Cussing, pushing, shoving us. We made it home in time to see the the Dawgs hold on for the win. Wouldn’t have wanted to be there for that.
Fuck that place and those assholes.
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Old girlfriend in college was from there, and we went to the game in Columbia ’90 or 91 with her sister and sister’s boyfriend. I was wearing a jacket and tie (UGa tie) and we were walking from a nice dinner by a hotel around 5 points, when a dipshit cock fan yelled something derogatory about the dawgs, and nailed me with a water balloon filled with scarlet dye from one of the lower balconies. Shirt and jacket ruined with dye. I was so mad I grabbed a chunk of broken off curb from the sidewalk and chucked it at him. My aim was dead on, and when he realized that this big chunk of curb was about hit him right in the head, he stumbled back into his room. The chunk of curb shattered the sliding glass door, and then there was this dull thunk sound. Guy come back out on the balcony with blood dripping from his face. My aim had been so true that the chunk of curb had gone clear thru that sliding glass door, and still hit that guy as he was doing every thing he could do at the moment to avoid the impact.
Divine retribution, and no I do not feel the slighted bit of remorse from this event.
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Things to do today:
1) Add Hayduke to List of Heroes.
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I don’t think Kirby will ever win a National Title. I think we pretend ’17 is baseline, when it was probably an aberration. I think he’s an excellent coach, will do very well, coach another 10 years, but ultimately I doubt he gets over the hump. He might be better than Richt, but it’s harder to win a title now. Hope I’m wrong.
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I agree. Oddly though Kirby got through 17 without a team full of players he recruited. Every year his recruiting is stellar but the teams as a whole don’t seem to perform much better. So is he a better coach than Richt? I don’t know. Better recruiter? Apparently so. Better CEO? Apparently so. Better coach? I hope so but they may be closer to equal in that regard. The last couple of years we’ve thought ‘this could be the year’ we take the next step. Which most define as at least beating Alabama. I sort of feel that way today. But, unfortunately, we’re Georgia so I can’t shake the thought that something, injuries, transfers, suspensions, a pair of red panties, something is going to leave us disappointed once again. I graduated in 1980. Georgia seemed poised on the edge of greatness. We flirted with it but we never got there. That was a long time ago.
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He did it with Richts players!
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Following up on Georgia not measuring up to Alabama as a football school and our fans not measuring up. I think these points are valid. I think one problem we have is our preeminent state university is getting a little too out of touch with our citizens. I live in southwest Georgia. Many of our best students, even the occasional valedictorian, can’t get into Georgia as a freshman. These kids are going to Ole Miss and Auburn after being offered in state tuition to leave Georgia. (My real worry is whether they come back-which is another story). I don’t know about all of the grad schools, but the Law School, is even worse. The result is a lot of kids from out of state being admitted and they don’t necessarily connect with the team. Couple that with the monetary requirements to be a fan, and it gets tough.
I know it’s important to be an academic bastion, but its also important to fulfill the mission to serve the state’s citizens. An incidental benefit would be a more rabid fan base like Alabama.
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It is undoubtedly harder to gain admission to UGA. However, 85% of the entering freshman class comes fro inside the state of Georgia. Students were admitted from 534 different high schools from the state of Georgia and 155 different Georgia counties. That’s still a lot of homegrown talent.
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https://www.redandblack.com/uganews/a-look-into-the-20-high-schools-sending-the-most-students-to-uga/article_cd7d8294-5e80-11ea-a356-fb400bfe3cc0.html
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University of Alabama:
Of the 38,103 undergraduate, professional and graduate students enrolled at UA in the fall semester of 2019,
39.7% come from Alabama
56.5% come from elsewhere in the United States
3.8% are international students from 76 countries
56.4% are women
43.5% are men
https://www.ua.edu/about/quickfacts
University of Georgia:
15% of the entering UGA first-year class come from outside Georgia and represent 43 different states. In addition, 122 students come from countries other than the United States.
https://www.admissions.uga.edu/admissions/admission-statistics/#:~:text=15%25%20of%20the%20entering%20UGA,other%20than%20the%20United%20States.
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The Hope scholarship really changed things. Some for better, some for worse.
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UGA used to save a spot for the valedictorian and salutatorian from every school in the state. I’m pretty sure it’s still that way. I could be wrong though.
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The top two graduates from every SACS accredited high school in Georgia are guaranteed a spot at UGA. Still true.
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The SEC should go all-in and sponsor wrestling as a sport. I hate having to lean on the Big Ten and to a lesser degree the Big XII and ACC during the winter. I’d much rather get a chance to watch schools I actually care about. High school wrestling is now strong enough in a number of SEC footprint states to grow some relatively strong programs.
I know it’s a pipedream because Title IX says we get to have a horse team instead.
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The black jerseys are not jinxed. Use them once a year vs an SEC opponent on a rotating basis. And bring back the silver britches.
Also, dump the modern dawg logo.
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ABSOLUTELY dump the modern logo. The old classic should never have been replaced. What’s next? A modern G on the helmet?
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That MS Paint clip art dog that we use for our logo now SUCKS! Yet another reason why I hate Nike.
The red pants suck and should be burned. Let crappy teams like Sackerlina wear red pants. We should only wear silver pants. I’ve come to accept black jerseys on occasion (but NOT as fake juice). Just designate one game at the start of the season as black jersey day. Maybe Senior Day?
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The red pants were awesome to me and remind me of being 10 years old and cheering on the Dogs on the road.
They were a throwback look to the Dooly days.
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I think we saw what maybe coming last year. Red pants for a game, black jerseys for a game. And I think thats perfect.
The excuses for not having silver britches are grating.
Ive think Ive seen one person that likes the new nike bulldog over old man bulldog. Ive bought 2 old man bulldog shirts since the revamp just out of spite.
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I really don’t enjoy attending games that start 7:00 or later. Higher percentage of blotto-inebriated folks, parking (if you call it that) is more of a nightmare, I can’t drink as I’d like because: driving, and our return home is so late the next day’s a wash, too. The crowd may be electric, but I’m happier viewing home or locally.
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Noon kickoffs are the best.
Enjoy the game and still have the rest of the day to do other things.
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Not being snarky, but what other things do you do after 4pm on Sat especially later in the year? I suck at it, but I’d rather go do stuff until 4pm, then watch a game. I could get in some kayaking and such easy if i got my ass going.
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Noon kicks suck if you attend the game live. You have to be up and out of the house early. You still get home too late really to enjoy the rest of Saturday. The opponents usually suck.
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-Auburn has the best uniforms (blue jersey) and fight song in the conference, easily
-The Redcoats are boring (and I say this as a former Redcoat) and the Battle Hymn game intro is cringey and uninspiring — all the excitement of a church song
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found the young guy
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49, Bubba
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Ah! A mutual 49er!
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Nuke this post.
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EESH I also think Auburn has the best fight song, which is why it irritates the shit out of me that they also play ours.
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Actually, I would rank Auburn’s slightly behind Arkansas’s, if we are getting technical.
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My problem is not with Mizzou, even though CFB would be drastically improved by them playing their old Midwestern and western rivals.
My problem is with their and a&m’s inclusion effectively separating the SEC into two closely related conferences where we visit non-Auburn West teams’ stadiums about eight times per century. I’d be fine with Mizzou going back to the Big twelve, and I’d be fine with them staying and the SEC going to either pods or a 9 game conference schedule. Just let us play West teams often enough for it not to be a novelty.
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But if we’re talking about unpopular opinions… I favor reduced scholarships and drastically greater amounts of football money going to the actual universities for academic purposes.
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I’m with you on the money.
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We should open each season with Tech.
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100% agree. If we play them, this is much better.
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Putting all of “rivalry week” far earlier in the season would be a huge benefit to the sport. Play those games when everyone involved believes there’s still something on the line; while they’re still hard to predict and the lesser team and its fans still believe they have a shot at winning. Also… people love a cinderella. Playing those games earlier in the year, like week one, means playing before the better programs have had time to work out the kinks. Probably have more competitive games that way.
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Every home game should start at 2 pm with zero TV timeouts.
Btw I agree UGA doesn’t have the coed crown anymore, some time after the HOPE started the talent level declined. It’s not bad but there ain’t as many 5 stars as there once was.
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Ok pervy mc pervy. Women arent show ponies.
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I’ll have to disagree, Chuck. They’re not ponies. But they want to be looked at and appreciated. Otherwise they wouldn’t work so hard at looking so damn good.
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Split the difference: They’re only show ponies when they want to be, and those of us that behold this gracious gift should admire with respectful admiration.
I tell my Mother she looks nice when she dresses up for Church. Because she does.
I tell my daughter she’s beautiful every time I can, because she is.
I’m sort of honest with my Sister. Then I get to learn some new curse words, because she’s a potty mouth and funny as hell.
If Mrs. Cowdog decides to dress up? We’re going somewhere, and I’ll probably have to dance. It deserves a celebration and it’s a sight to behold.
Love the women in my life…
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Reminds me of the saying “ole miss: where we redshirt future Miss America candidates”
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Why would the Southeastern Conference need a Midwestern touch? Seems like a weird thing to say.
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I guiltily admit I’ve never hated Spurrier as much as I should as a Dawgs fan, probably because I at least always found him entertaining. It has always been more one of those “love to hate” type things – kind of like he was the heel in a professional wrestling rivalry. I’ve always reserved my true Gator vitriol for Urban.
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Georgia would be much better off switching places with Clemson and playing an ACC schedule against mostly basketball schools. I’d miss the rivalries, but we’re so starved for a title it would almost be worth the sacrifice at this point.
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My against the grain position is that Kirby will eventually beat Saban and Georgia will go on an historic (for us) run of multiple NCs.
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1) I think that Chuck Knapp saw to it that Erk wasn’t hired because he did not want to be the second most powerful man on campus. At the time we were coming out of Jan Kemp and bringing Erk to Athens was a risk to his main mission which was to bring credibility to the academic side of the university. I firmly believe that was the most consequential decision of my lifetime in terms of the direction of the football program. Had Erk gotten that job, Spurrier isn’t Spurrier. I just think Erk was that good. I really do. Always will.
2) if Edwards and Bobo stay healthy the 1995 team would have been special and Donnan never becomes coach.
3) CMR should get far more credit for the turnaround in 2011 and 2012 than he gets. But for the terrible injury situation in 2013 and the near empty qb room after Murray, CMR may still be at it, for better or worse.
4) CMR beating saban in 2012 was what the entire college football world needed: An example of winning big while doing it the right way.
5) Lambert was far worse as a starting qb than Schotty was as an OC.
6) I think (hope?) we’re approaching the apogee of the wide open, pass happy spread.
7) kirby should have replaced fromm with fields in Baton Rouge in 2018. Not permanently, but after we got behind and jake was struggling.
8) Aaron Murray may be the most overrated player at Georgia in my lifetime.
9) if Quincy Carter could hit a curve ball, Donnan would have ultimately been a success at georgia especially after spurrier and o’leary moved on.
10) once we get a natty, we’ll get a bunch of natties.
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Wash your mouth out with soap for #8!!! Take Murray all day and twice on Sunday over Stafford, Fromm, Greene, etc.
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My issue with Murray is this: occasionally he was way too high strung. The moment was too big for him at times. When he lost the 25 second clock twice in the second half vs. Clemson as a 5th year player, you could see it. (This is different than being physically tough. We know he could handle getting hit.)
His record ended up pretty good vs. UF but he was a mess in those games, especially early. Nervous nelly.
He could lock in at times too. When Clowney clowned him, for example. If we’d have seen more of the 2013 vs. USC version of Murray he’d have some “dust collectors.”
Very, very good player. He didn’t make it in the league, didn’t throw a live pass in the regular season, because he just wasn’t “the man” enough.
QBs need to either be Joe Cool or “victory or death.” Brady is both as it happens. Aaron was neither.
Btw: I predicted right here that he would break all the passing records at Georgia. His tape didn’t lie. Fwiw: I really like Gunnar Stockton’s tape.
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99% agree on all points, other than Fields should have replaced Fromm permanently if not during then immediately after LSU 2018.
I blame the empty qb room after Murray on Bobo.
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Erk Russell would have gotten dusted by Spurrier just as Goff did and wouldn’t have the God-like image at UGA like he still does today
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Its not a migraine. Its brain damage.
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Wasn’t paying attention at that age, but… any revised immedate post Dooley era would be find with me.
Yes, but Hines ward playing QB was pretty slick.
100%.
100%. That’s when much of the whole world lost hope and started exclusively hiring Saban assistants. I’m still amazed UF did it twice in a row.
I’d rather just forget the whole thing ever happened.
Depends on rules. Unless they change, particularly in the way they apply to RPO’s and downfield blocking, that’s not likely. Also this way is a little safer (or at least it appears it is… as in PR optics) than smash mouth football is regarding CTE so I wouldn’t count on any rule changes that encourage more running.
With the benefit of hindsight, sure.
Dead wrong. First of all I’d argue he isn’t overrated at all; he gets pretty short shrift, historically speaking (“great stats but what did he ever accomplish?!?!”). But presuming he is overrated…. if he had an even moderately competent defense to back him up, we go all the way at least once. He could absolutely sling it, and made great calls at the line. Also he was a huge “players’ QB” and “his” teams turned the tide on UF. That’s worth a whole lot.
Again, revised post Dolley era history is all good with me.
Yes, but only if it starts while we’re still recruiting like maniacs. No matter how tenacious Smart is, this consistent top 3 recruiting without a title can only go on so long before one of either UF or Auburn, along with other national powers like Ohio State OU USC Notre Dame, etc., becomes a true in state recruiting threat again.
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That was a numbered 1-10 response but for some reason the numbers disappeared when I posted it.
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Did you see Hines’ first start at QB?
Hoo boy…..
He got better.
Murray can only be considered “overrated” because he is “highly rated.” Being that we went from 2014-2020 MSU game without top notch qb play I think he’s gotten a little more highly rated than he deserves over time.
Not saying he was bad. Not saying he was anything but very very good. With his statistical performances you’d think he’d be head over heels above every qb since we discovered the downfield pass in about 1991. But due to some of the issues I mentioned I’m not sure who I would take if I had to select one for THE game:
Zeier
Greene
Shockley
Stafford
Murray
Fromm
(Daniels has too small a sample size but I suspect he may shoot to the top in about 7 months.)
I might well take Shockley as a fifth year player. He was pretty damn good that year he started. Have we had any other qbs crack 4,000 yards for a season? And he missed a game.
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Stafford with Monken, especially as a senior, would be ludicrous. Greene would do well as a field commander with 5 d chess. Fromms the bottom of that list for me.
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I’d go with Greene…cool hand Luke. Stafford as a college player was just a little too erratic…I remember that home Kentucky loss.
But if we had to face Bama tomorrow for all the marbles, Shockley is my weapon.
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My man. Im a massive Greene guy
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Same. Greene is my favorite Dawg ever. Sorry Herschel, but tucking the ball under your towel then turning your back on the whole thing? Balls, boys, and Coach Richt called it.
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I’m just going to say it, since the stadium was expanded after 1980 and beyond, and certainly since the 96 Olympics held soccer matches there, the mythical quality of the hedges is overrated.
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I agree with Mark. I think Missouri is an excellent addition to the conference. Its academics are at the UGA/UF level and raises the overall quality of SEC schools. Its basketball is historically good. Its football is in the top half of he conference.
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It was a nice addition (as was aTm) from an academic standpoint. Both schools are AAU members, and their addition doubled the SEC’s total in the AAU (Florida and Vandy are members). Only 63 schools belong in the US, and I have to think UGA’s day is coming soon.
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I prefer the old school G to the one we borrowed from the Green Bay Packers.
I like The Who, but their music doesn’t really mesh with football too well. Seems like a weird choice. As does the Nickelback remake of an Elton John song.
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If you know the words and theme to Teenage Wasteland, its very not fitting. lol. Ive said that for a long time.
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“We’re all wasted” has some accuracy to it.
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Gary Danielson is the best color guy in the game.
If we are being geographically true – which I believe in – AND we are keeping all the current members of the SEC, then we should move Mizzou to the West. But to keep all the rivalries intact and be geographically honest, we also need to move Vandy to the West – and bring Alabama and Auburn BOTH to the East. That saves all the traditional rivalries.
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Gary called Auburn fans “sophisticated” for booing an injured Georgia player.
Fuck that guy.
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F Danielson, and you leave the west for LSU to win every year without any competition.
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I’ll never forget or forgive, but Todd Blackledge is the best. I enjoyed his little taste of the town bits too. Danielson is too pompous for me. Herbstreit talks way too much and is not all that insightful.
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Absolutely. Danielson and Herbie are smug, preening blowhards. Blackledge does commentary–the substance of it and the fluff–the right way. Modest dude, always insightful, funny, good taste in bad food.
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Phil Collins In The Air Tonight is a weird song to play at sports games.
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If the history of that song Ive heard rumored is true, then its a really messed up dark song.
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Rocky Top is catchy.
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Like gonorrhea you mean?
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Replace Scott Howard with Wes Durham. Wes has a down home folksiness that would appease the fan base. Don’t care that he was at Tech. Munson called Vandy games for nearly two decades.
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Brian Katrek. Awesome at golf, great voice and personality, lives in Roswell.
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Replace Scott Howard with Beth Mowins. Just kidding. Zeier must have to sit on his hands to keep from hauling off and smacking Scott when he starts yelling for the 90th time, and it’s not even halftime.
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No offense to the Redcoats but our pregame songs and traditions suck. Our music (including the Star Spangled Banner) sucks the energy out of the stadium. Also we should not play the anthem before the game.
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And that stupid “the greatest cheer of all time” truly sucks. Give me a “G”. . .Gah!
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The Battle Hymn and Munson monologue are terrible and totally drain the energy out of the place. There I said it.
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TIL people think our songs and traditions and pregame and even the NA sux. Go figure. I find it funny bc Richt had a hand in some of these things and it was considered awesome at one point. You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of um.
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What’s worse is that you can’t shoot any of ‘em.
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I swear I can’t take you where
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This was the best playpen thread.
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Went shooting Sunday at a Madison county farm. Yankee Joe has set up a 300 yard range in those rolling hills and his wife got him a rifle to take advantage of all that acreage. Remington 700 from Clyde Armory. One of those government buybacks from the prison system. Heavy barrel, crisp trigger and McMillan-style stock with adjustable comb and Pachmayr buttpad. Similar to the Marines M40A3 sans the Schmidt & Bender scope. Instead it mounts an older Leupold 3-9×40 with an aftermarket bubble level. A pre-printed DOPE card in the flip up cover has holdovers out to 600 yards. It’s a 40 year old system but still relevant. The rifle itself is like new. Probably sat in the arms room its entire existence. With the old M118LR ammo it’s a real tack driver.
I was a bit concerned as we were shooting at a severe downhill angle. Figured we’d have to make some elevation adjustments. I was surprised as the gun was dead on target. Zero adjustments. Then we laughed as we remembered where it came from. It was most likely sighted in with firing from a tower in mind. Kind of creepy if you dwell on that.
Instead of simply checking zero we wound up shooting all day. Hondog Hand br out his precision
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Geez. Hillbilly Verizon/Windstream strikes again. Computer crashed.
Horndog Hans brought out his stuff and I got mine out. It was a great day.
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“It’s a 40 yr old system but still relevant”? You had me at “Remington 700″…
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That trigger, man. No slop at all. You squeeze and it breaks.
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Told you.
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I’m pleased to see old Joe out and finally getting after it at 61. Ringing steel at 300 yards with a bona fide sniper rifle had him so pleased with himself, the rifle and especially that sweet, country wife who gave it to him. I didn’t have the heart to tell him that 18 year old privates do that every day with open sight M16s/M4s.
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Sheeeeit. I’d love to have my 18 year old shooting eye back.
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Don’t you know it, pal. I’ve had to make a few adjustments for age but more recently infirmities. My deterioration is accelerating.
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Have you read about the changes the Marines have made for rifle qualification? They are allowing them to fire with the ACOG or whatever optic for their T/O /T/E weapon and are sort of firing in reverse starting at 500 yards and moving in. There is also a component as to where the round lands as opposed to anywhere in the black.
For all the things the Marine Corps is terrible at ie having Amphibious vehicles that float, use of acronyms and the like they do teach people who have never held a rifle how to shoot at ranges up to 500+ yards extremely well. A guy in my boot camp.platoon had never shot any weapon before (he was from NYC) shot a 245 out of a possible 250 after learning a few days before that he was left eye dominant and had to shoot left handed. He shot high expert and had sling palsy in both arms.
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Siskey, I was told the Corps was looking at abandoning iron sights for qual in favor of an ACOG. It’s none of my business, but since you asked I’ll tell you what I think and I’ll be gentle…
I spent some time on PI observing BRM instruction and was impressed not only with the instruction but also the instructors, the KD ranges and the Boot’s rapt attention. Old school fundamentals are what makes every Marine a Rifleman first. I understand that training time is limited and emphasis needs to be on the system employed at the present. However, this smacks of the Good Idea Fairy gone wild. Technological wonders such as self-illuminating 4 power optics break and usually at the worst time. You need those iron sights and requisite training. Once the basics are instilled it’s simple transferring that knowledge to the RCO.
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As an aside I heard that the UN investigated the Marines after the Second Battle of Fallujah for the inordinate amount of head shots leading to suspicions of prisoner execution. The inquiry was negative. Just good shooting. This was before the large scale issue of combat optics and possibly a result of the ineffectiveness of M855 ammo on soft targets.
Once again, that’s simply what I heard and some conjecture on my part.
It warms my black heart knowing there are Troopers and Jarheads out there with expert marksmanship capability.
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I don’t understand a word of what you’ve written, but I defend your right to shoot Mullen in the ass.
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Hehehehe. My wife has an old Daisy BB gun that would be good for that.
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I just drank the 6.5 CM kool-aid myself, in a Bergara B-14 Wilderness Ridge, so that pretty much makes me a sniper, right?
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The 6.5 Creedmoor seems to be gaining favor as a more accurate round at distance than 7.62×51. I’m too old and heavily invested in the .308 to upgrayedd to the Creedmoor and a double dose of pimpin’. I have the tools and skill to hit an iron maiden at 600m. That doesn’t make me a Sniper. But in this day and age you can identify as anything you please I reckon.
Spurrier?
Fuck that motherfucker.
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Yeah- I found myself in position to switch platforms after a decade or so away from hunting, and have a buddy with Bergara who offered me the 6.5CM in a trade show demo model for the right price. My previous deer rifle was a 7mm Rem Mag, and the bite from that one had become a non-starter for my aging, surgically-repaired shoulders. When I did my research on the 6.5, it seemed to fit the sweet spot of terminal performance and light recoil that I was looking for. The 7mm-08 would have been my next choice, but like I said, the 6.5CM kinda fell in my lap, so here we are.
LOL on Spurrier…I can’t help it. The dude is/was genuinely witty and brutally honest. I appreciate both qualities immensely, even if they frequently came at the expense of my alma mater. Contrast that with Mullen, who thinks he is witty, but really just isn’t. It is truly painful to watch how hard he tries to fit into Spurrier’s shoes, but just can’t, and never will.
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Mag calibers and repaired shoulders? I hear you, RC. My shoulder still aches from Sunday and not a Magnum amongst us. The AR type .308s are buffered and much lighter recoil. They give up that pin point accuracy, but they’re good enough. I’ve been hunting with a suppressed POF Edge last few years. Very soft recoil if a bit heavy.
Hopefully I’ll be fortunate as you and pick up a 6.5 CM on the cheap. Many of my younger acquaintances are drinking the Kool Aid. They generally get bored, over extended or married and need quick cash. I’ll gladly take it off their hands. Perfect round for the range and game I shoot.
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Kids these days…
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I think Steve Spurrier is a national treasure, and would strongly prefer that we drop Tech from the schedule permanently, or at least relegate them to Ga. Southern-type scheduling frequency- a bit of a novelty, but nothing approaching a rival.
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