C’mon, kids, don’t be difficult.
That’s gonna be a logistical pain in the ass, not just for the teams unvaccinated players are on, but their opponents, too. Let’s not screw around with this, okay?
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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
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Got my first shot a couple of weeks ago and the second one is scheduled for next week. That being said I will be available as a substitute player if needed. Surely they can find a slot for a 70 + year old out of shape has been.
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How ’bout a 65 year old NwverWas???
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Never
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My 40-time is measured with a sun dial.
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Got my second Pfizer shot yesterday. It feels so, so good to have that out of the way.
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Got my second on Sunday. It does indeed.
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Got my 2nd Moderna last Friday around 2pm. Nurse asked me if I had been extra-hydrating, I hadn’t; she said being well-hydrated could lessen the side-effects. Started drinking a shit-ton of water. Felt a little weird going to bed, had my first pee-dream (leaking/running water throughout the dream) in decades and luckily still recognized in time it was my mind telling me I need to wake up and take a piss pronto.
Saturday started with a mild temple/eye headache and feeling slightly off, both got worse as the day went on. Advil kept everything at a minimum, Saturday’s sleep sucked, but by midday Sunday I was feeling fine. Some lingering congestion each morning, but not sure that’s on the jab.
You should expect to feel bad after the 2nd shot, it’s your immune system responding to what it thinks is an infection from the virus. Some people feel like complete shit, others don’t feel anything. Better to feel like complete shit than feel nothing at all, IMO; feeling nothing means your immune system isn’t reacting much.
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I am two weeks past the second Moderna shot. I live in Athens and could not get an appointment anywhere here (and believe me, I tried) even though I am over 65, and have some preexisting conditions. A nice poster here suggested I could come to Toccoa saying I could show up and ask for any extra doses, and I would have done exactly that except I found an appointment in a Kroger in Lawrenceville which felt more secure. I felt like I had won the lottery. Had no issues with the first shot except for mild arm pain. More issues with the second so don’t be surprised (and mostly, don’t plan to do anything serious for about 24 hours) but it didn’t last long, and I feel great today.
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Doug, I felt the same way after I had had COVID for a few days. Total relief that I was going to be done with it.
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I get Pfizer #2 next Wednesday. Had no symptoms after the first one other than a sore arm – no different than the annual flu shot I get.
First thing I did after scheduling both appt’s last month was to buy tickets for a Braves game. Can. Not. Wait.
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Getting the first on Monday with the 2nd a couple of weeks later … I want a full Sanford in the fall and real senior years for my UGA student and my high schooler.
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Do college athletes who are allegedly not “employees” fall under HIPPA rules?
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Colleges require other vaccines to attend so that is not an issue.
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In terms of their privacy rights, yes.
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Exactly, HIPPA hasn’t got anything to do with employee status. Individuals have HIPPA rights.
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I’ll be 60 in a couple of months and I’ve gotten both of the Moderna shots. The demographics where I work are about 50/50 white and poc and I have yet to hear a single poc say they are going to get the vaccine. Probably 50% of the whites aren’t getting it either. The reasons range from it was rushed through to the microchip/ gene alteration theories. I had thought more people would take it after all the mask / distancing / protocol bitching that had gone on at work.
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This obsession we have with conspiracy theories is as big a societal challenge as anything else we face going forward.
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While certainly true, the PH experts haven’t helped the case to get the vaccine for some people either. And that isn’t conspiracy theory. That is just “if Fauci is saying that vaccinated people should still mask, distance, not eat indoors, etc. why the hell would I get the vaccine?” I had COVID about 8 weeks ago (and my entire family of five has had it at some point over the past four months), but I am still getting the first dose of Pfizer tomorrow. Saying that if everyone gets vaxxed we can return to normal and then saying that once vaxxed you still should continue doing the things that we’ve been doing the last year doesn’t necessarily instill confidence to a lot of reasonable, non-conspiracy theorist people.
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You mean like building a giant fence around the Capitol and stationing the National Guard there because a secret patriot insurrection army is coming?
That kind of conspiracy obsession?
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FOH. I’m not arguing with a bad faith troll.
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That means yes.
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“…it was rushed through…”
This is a little misleading. The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines use technology that is designed to create rapid vaccines. It’s only fast in comparison with traditional methods of making vaccines. The technology (mRNA) hasn’t been particularly rushed – it has been at least 40 years in development. When the Chinese released the genome of the virus for free, we were able to design a vaccine within hours over a year ago. It took a while to test properly and to solve manufacturing and delivery issues.
A nice article that reports the history can be found here: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/health/coronavirus-mrna-kariko.html?searchResultPosition=1
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Typical phase 1, 2 and 3 clinical trials take longer than this drug has been in existence. Most of the work had already been done around Covid variant drugs since the swine flu so the manufactures had a head start in preparing the drug. So yes it was super fast tracked in some parts of the normal drug protocols but in other parts the due diligence had already been completed. So like most things there is a little truth in it all.
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Nah. Thanks though.
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Willing to bet that you hate masks and scream that we just gotta open up!
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Yep. I’ve also get a wife who was out of work for a month with CoVid and a son who had an asymptomatic case of it. But now you want me to inject it directly into my veins. You’re so thoughtful comrade.
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If vaccines work then why does everyone have polio?
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Get vaccinated if you want to. I’m not anti-vax.
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Save for the misapprehension of what a vaccine is right?
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I get it, it’s a personal choice…..”until it’s not”.
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I’m not trying to create nastiness. This is a legit question and I would appreciate everyone not coming in with their hot take zinger.
Are you OK with certain jobs, schools, events, etc being only available to the people who are vaccinated? FOr example, are you OK with players who don’t get vaxed having to sit out this year?
Again, I ask this honestly. I’m a big fan of personal freedom, so I’m basically ok with people opting out. I’m not OK with my life continuing to suck so someone else can opt out though.
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My understanding of the law is that employers can make employment conditional upon proof of a vaccine.
Freedom is one thing.
Consequences from private parties for such expressions are another matter.
Too many people get that confused.
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No, where does it stop? It is a vaccine today but what if the government push tomorrow is anyone over a certain weight doesn’t get to drive a car because you could have a heart attack and die due to heart disease while driving. Yes that is a stretch but 2 years ago would you have thought we would be discussing people not being able to live a certain life because they did or didn’t get a shot, or two?
I don’t understand why your life would suck? If you get vaccinated then someone who doesn’t shouldn’t make you sick and if they get it and die then that was their choice.
So pick a point in time and say that everyone that wants to be vaccinated needs to have it done by then and after that date then everything goes back to normal.
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We get to vote for or against those people right?
What you describe is no more random than a .02 bac limit for 20 year old drivers. Its no more random than prohibiting driving after doing a line of cocaine or taking an “upper.” . Its no more random than a 21 year age limit on alcohol possession.
We vote for legislators. They make choices. If we don’t like them we act.
No one is free to do whatever they want without consequences, especially from private parties.
I think drug laws for adults are anti-freedom and random and stupid and ineffectual.
I get the same 1 vote you do.
Unless you’re bumping into a constitutional limit the police power of the state is pretty fucking broad.
You used to not be able to buy condoms in CT. Then the “activist judges” decided that we have privacy rights.
Imagine that.
Unless you think you have a privacy right to spread smallpox this is a losing argument for you.
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But if you get the shot, I shouldn’t be able to give you Covid, only people that are willing to take the risk of getting Covid. Isn’t that how a vaccination works? So if I don’t get a normal flu shot I have to live in my basement during flu season? At what point are you willing to let me live?
So it is majority rule regardless of how I feel as long as it isn’t a constitutional limit? Lot of people that hold a minority view point might not appreciate that fact.
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You are risking higher insurance costs for me and/or higher tax liabilities if your insurance, if any, runs out.
You are risking carrying and transmitting Covid mutations which I may or may not be vaccinated against.
You are risking transmission to persons who may, for underlying medical issues, be ineligible for the vaccine.
You can get in a raft, cast off and be free.
You don’t need to be a US citizen and have any responsibilities to anyone else.
Return to a state of nature. Why bear the responsibilities of citizenship when you don’t have to?
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I eat a clean proper diet. Exercise five days a week. Have less than 15% body fat at 50 years old. I feel healthy enough that I doubt I impact your insurance rates. Yes, I am insured.
You could carry covid mutations you aren’t immunized against and give them to me, so seems fair.
You can also transmit covid to unimmunized, people have tested positive after getting vaccinated. I understand statistics and know if you are immunized you are less likely to do this but to that one person statistics are still real.
If you are afraid to live without risk you can move to an uninhabited island and live safely. So set sail.
I am responsible for the safety and employment of enough people to feel like I should stay a US citizen, but thanks for the offer.
So if anyone is unwilling to not live to your thoughts and standards they have to leave the country just what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution.
I never said either way if I have been vaccinated or not but my thing is I wouldn’t impose my lifestyle or personal decisions on the way you live so I don’t understand why you feel you have the right to do that. If I told you because you eat fast food you are raising my insurance rates and should leave the country would that be wrong? If your BMI is high should I be able to tell you that you shouldn’t be allowed to drive a car because you could have a heart attack while driving and kill a family of four?
Thanks for your deep concern but in all honesty I hope you and everyone you care for stay safe and Covid free, no sarcasm as I deeply mean that. But I feel good about my personal decision to get shot or not.
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With Moderna and Pfizer, you are not injecting any form of the virus at all, you are injecting mRNA. Please readup.
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I was going for the effect. 😉
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Flan, may I add that no, you’re not altering your DNA, or getting microchipped!!!!!
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I’m not on here to start some huge debate, but there isn’t actually the virus in the vaccine. It’s just a protein shaped like the virus that gives your body the blueprint to identify and fight it.
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See my reply to Flan bluetruck. I know how vaccines work and what you’re actually getting injected with (like the smallpox vaccine I’ve gotten). However, I was implying that I’ve literally kissed my wife with CoVid. So after talking to my Dr about my situation, she said I didn’t need the vaccine, and that was good enough for me.
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As opposed to keeping things shut down, masks and isolation??
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J&J about a month ago. One single night of chills and about 2-3 days of just feeling off (slight fatigue & loss of focus).
I view it as a civic duty. In order to have any shot of things getting back to something resembling pre-COVID normalcy, we need millions of us to get vaccinated.
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Rodger that civic duty angle. When it comes right down to it, Americans are pussies when it comes to a needle. (other than the cocaine, meth and heroin addicted)
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Not sure about fear of the needle – more like some feel the vaccine was rushed into the populace. Seems like every few days we hear conflicting sound bites which adds to the reluctance of getting vaccinated.
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What kinds of conflicting reports?
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reports where J&J is no longer being used in many places, 15 million tainted doses?
Right now, I wouldn’t take the J&J one shot..I’d take either of the other two…just can’t find an appointment near me…
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Go to https://gta-vras.powerappsportals.us/ and see how quick you can find one. A family members sent me the link yesterday and I went on and I am getting first Pfizer does tomorrow about 5 minutes from my office.
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Will try, thanks.
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Worked like a charm. Going at 2:00 today. About 8 miles away.
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Good for you, man.
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Already back home…Moderna shot…now my new Samsung Range beeps when I walk by…along with telling me on the TV when it’s preheated…
Actually, that link made it easy..pre registered online, was a drive through location at an old Fire Department in Fayetteville..they email you a Q Code, they scan it, pulls you right up…they had 2 lanes going, shot 1 and shot 2…3 cars at a time in the building, never got out, Wife went with me…shots for the both of us.
A certain former POTUS’s Son was in line behind us in his new Corvette convertible…Rapid Blue, I think is what they call the color.
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Conflicting messaging about needing a vax to get back to normal and needing to continue doing what we’ve been doing for a year after vaxxing.
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Who the hell told you cocaine is taken intravenously?
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I had this same thought. At least the shot wouldn’t hurt. Cocaine is a hell of a anesthetic.
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That is how Belushi died … speedball of cocaine and heroin.
“Cathy Smith, who in 1986 pleaded no contest to involuntary manslaughter for supplying Belushi with drugs and injecting him with his final fatal speedball doses of cocaine and heroin.”
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/night-john-belushi-died-book-excerpt-reveals-new-details-1204001
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I was subjected to the deadly J&J single shot vaccine. Now I’m just sitting around waiting to die…
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Send me a list of all the good stuff you have and won’t need in your next life.
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One piece of advise, Cowdog: Don’t die. it’ll really fuck up your whole day. Trust me; I’ve tried it. I can tell you that it’s vastly overrated!!
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Well, shit.
Not dead in spite of the vaccine. I guess I’ll have to go to work tomorrow…
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Had both Moderna shots – no ill effects whatsoever.
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From what I’ve read, there has only been one death due to the shots and it was with the Johnson and Johnson from blood clotting. And that has been something along the lines of 1 in a million, with the demographic being affected being child bearing age woman. There have been well over 100 million shots given.
Now if you believe a little nano-byte tracking device is being put into your system and it’s the mark of the beast, then I can’t help you. (I’m a devout Christian by the way).
But if you are delaying getting this, waiting to see what the side affects are because of lack of testing, then I can only say that you have had the largest test in the world ever given to a drug for the last four months. I honestly do not know what more you could be wating for.
Waited my turn, got in line when I could and had the 2nd vaccination yesterday. Both made me a little tired and the 2nd one a little sore in my joints, not even flu like. Yes, it affects different people different ways, but the more people who get the shot, the quicker we get this scourge completely under control.
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thinks when the FDA gives full approval for the vaccine rather than approval for emergency use….you may see a change.
believe the need 6 months of data first.
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This is pretty much where I am. I’m not opposed to the idea of getting the vaccine, but I want real world data first. As I am a healthy youngish man, I can afford to wait.
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For military yes. That’s when they’ll be required to get it.
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It is not mandatory for military…that’s new thinking because in my 37 years in the military, flu shots were mandatory each year…1955 onward…dozens of shots were mandatory: plague, typhoid, tetanus, yellow fever, ad naseum…gamma globin in Nam was contested by an officer but overruled. You had to have a shot record to go with your passport. Times change and I oppose the vaccine passport idea. Had my two moderna and am fine.
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I have taken both Pfizer vaccines. It is so nice to visit my mother in law who is also vaccinated without being masked. My youngest daughter who is a teacher had the J&J as did her husband. My oldest daughter is trying to get hers in IL. Hopefully enough people get vaccinated that we can vanquish this virus. People are still dying from it so still take it seriously.
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Got both of mine last month. No side effects. My wife got her second this weekend and felt a little “blah” on Sunday. Kid got the second shot yesterday. We all had Pfizer. I’ve been licking door knobs since I got mine. I feel like I’m immune to everything.
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Okay Doc.
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I’ll get the vaccine when Congress has lifted the legal immunity for pharmaceutical companies.
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Right on! I’ll obey the law when Congress has lifted qualified immunity for police and government officials.
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Perhaps the most tortured analogy on the Internet.
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You’re welcome. Couldn’t be that both are simply the right and proper things to do and help us, our relationships, and society as a whole much more than the 1 in a million chance that something goes wrong.
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Yea, you cant make a youtube vid, but you will be forced to take a shot you don’t need.
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I think the J&J was / is the least effective of the three. I feel fortunate to have gotten the Pfizer as it seems to be the most effective.
It will be interesting to see if we will all need to get booster shots down the road.
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I got the first shot and connected my cellphone via Bluetooth to the nano chip. Screw you AT&T!! Now I get excellent reception…but everything is in Chinese.
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Answer me this, why do I need to inject a form of a virus into my bloodstream? I have a healthy immune system. Comparing it to polio is nonsense.
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I hesitate to respond. I’m not looking to antagonize you or deny your apparent fear/concern about vaccines. Polio and Corona virus are definitely different,but a ‘history of vaccines,” might be helpful.
https://magazine.rotary.org/rotary/april_2021/MobilePagedArticle.action?articleId=1672119#articleId1672119
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I’ll take a stab. (See what I did there?)
So that you don’t inadvertently take it to someone who can’t get the shot or who may not have the hoped for response to it. Someone very near and dear to me has a blood cancer. That is a cancer OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM. Next to lung cancer, the people with blood cancers are at most risk if they contract Covid. And now we’re seeing early data that indicates they (leukemia/lymphoma patients) also are not having a great response to the vaccines. Their immune systems do not operate correctly b/c of the cancerous cells wandering around their bloodstream. For my loved one it is incurable but treatable as cancers go and we’re thankful they are healthy fir the moment (if you don’t count the cancer) … BUT they are at a big disadvantage for Covid (both the virus and the vaccine… and other vaccines for that matter.)
If as many people as possible will get the vaccine so that the community spread is low to zero, that’d be great for us! As it is our whole family (over 16) has gotten the vaccine hoping we don’t bring it home.
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Isolate and treat the sick, not the healthy.
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Well that is certainly one option. We would just prefer not to spend the whole entire rest of his (and our) lives – we’re relatively young and our kids are even younger – holed up like we have the last year. But thanks for that advice.
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The vaccine changes nothing, the CDC has said so.
Still required to wear masks, still required to social distance, and you can still transmit COVID.
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Look… we’re getting very close to reminding me why I don’t engage with strangers on the internet but…
From their website:
What You Can Start to Do
If you’ve been fully vaccinated:
– You can gather indoors with fully vaccinated people without wearing a mask or staying 6 feet apart.
– You can gather indoors with unvaccinated people of any age from one other household (for example, visiting with relatives who all live together) without masks or staying 6 feet apart, unless any of those people or anyone they live with has an increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19.
[plus other stuff about travel]
What You Should Keep Doing
For now, if you’ve been fully vaccinated:
– You should still take steps to protect yourself and others in many situations, like wearing a mask, staying at least 6 feet apart from others, and avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces. Take these precautions whenever you are:
In public
– Gathering with unvaccinated people from more than one other household
– Visiting with an unvaccinated person who is at increased risk of severe illness or death from COVID-19 or who lives with a person at increased risk.
– You should still avoid medium or large-sized gatherings.
[plus other stuff about travel]
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html
There are alot of subtleties there and still some learning to do about post-vaccine life… but what is not there is a requirement to wear masks / distance until the end of time (as you seem to want to imply) in all situations. They say right there ‘FOR NOW’ to continue to wear masks in certain situations (but not in others)… I’m no epidemiologist (though I do have a PhD in Statistics) but I assume how long ‘for now’ lasts is dependent on how fast we can get community prevalence/spread of covid down to a very low amount.
OK. I’m done with strangers for today. lol
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That statement is being willfully obtuse at best. Give everyone a chance to get vaccinated and then the mitigation strategies will not be needed. Likely a couple more months at current rate, maybe less.
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Look, nothing I said was refuted as per the CDC citation quoted.
And numerous states have already reported hundreds of COVID infections and deaths in fully vaccinated individuals.
The example given was that a person close to her suffered from a cancer that was immunosuppressive and prevented the individual from getting vaccinated.
As per the CDC regs, whether one is immunized or not, they are advised not to gather with individuals that are at high risk.
I’m not sure why it is ‘obtuse’ to state what the CDC guidelines are.
What has been done is it was stated that I ‘implied’ ‘forever’, when I did not. My words are what they are.
However, if one wanted to point to any implication , it would be the baseless forecast of what the CDC is “probably thinking” and the plucked out of a hat magic projection for when those guidelines will be altered.
We were told well over a year ago that it would take 15 days to flatten the curve. Now in many places they are still imposing those mandates.
We were told over a year ago NOT to wear masks, that masks were ineffective. Here we are now over a year later with lots of hyperbole that people that don’t wear masks are superspreaders.
I could say that these point to the fallibility of the CDC in projecting things.
One might counter “We were working with the info available at the time, but things change.”
Fine.
But what makes it a completely 100% positive affirmation that things won’t change again inside the next three months, six months or 10 years?
There is none.
All I have done, is posit what should be rationally obvious, that if someone is immunosuppressed, they should be isolated for sake of their own health, not to place hope that the other 8 billion global residents all be vaccinated.
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It’s going to give me some more travel options…..that’s good enough for me.
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It’s not the vaccine that’s wrong, ti’ the damn CDC that’s screwed up on this one.
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Polycythemia Vera? I have it so curious to ask.
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Well, because the premise of your question is wrong. With Moderna and Pfizer, you are not injecting any form of the virus at all, you are injecting mRNA.
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“Just get the damned shot.”
“Cmon kids, don’t be difficult.”
“Let’s not screw around with this, okay?”
How about fuck off!? You want me to inject my HEALTHY kids and myself so YOU can watch football, not knowing what the short or long-term side effects will be? Nah, definitely fuck off.
My mother took the J&J five days ago and I’m worried sick this vaccine is going to kill her. Stop guilt tripping people, assholes.
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It may be of little comfort to your worried state, as anything can happen, but if your mom is over 50 her odds of surviving the J&J vaccine are exponentially higher than surviving a covid infection.
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Unless you or your kids are playing football for UGA (or a team playing against the Dawgs), I’m afraid you’ve badly misconstrued my post.
As for stop guilt tripping people, it’s sounds like you’re already vaccinated against that. Bless your heart, in other words.
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How in the fuck do you know they’re not playing for UGA? My post stands.
Get off your high horse, bub. Tell me how many DAWGS had to sit out due to COVID last year- without a vaccine?
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I don’t have the first clue what your family does. That’s why I qualified my statement with “Unless”.
Your reading comprehension skills could use some work, “bub”.
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Like all good Dawgs, I had BOTH of my shots….Rabies AND Parvo! I’m set!!!
GO DAWGS!!
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Just not the J&J version…blood clots are nothing to scoff at
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Not getting the shot. Unnecessary for a disease with a 99.7 ( + or – ) survival rate. Stupid for extremely fit young men or women to get this experimental biological agent pumped into them. Just say no.
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What happened to my body, my choice?
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That only applies to the decision to kill another human being.
In this instance the shot only minutely reduces the chance that you may pass a virus with 99+% chance of survival to a screaming liberal boomer.
Therefor, you must grant the state control of your body.
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10-4. That’s exactly what I thought. And with all the years of testing on this vaccine, what could go wrong? Oh wait……
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10-4. That’s exactly what I thought. And with all the years of testing on this vaccine, what could go wrong? Oh wait……
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