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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
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Bama was damn lucky. Not many Bama fans realize how friggin lucky they were. The didn’t-but-should-have-been-called-safety won the game for them.
Where the hell are their WRs? The few Young targeted dropped the ball. Then he kept throwing to a TE or two who didn’t seem have much speed as he kept overthrowing him. How can Bama have #1 class after class and not have WRs?
Without Gibbs they don’t win that game. Saban would probably never admit it, but I can’t believe he is happy to rely on the portal this much year in and year out.
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How can Bama expect to win games without Metchie and Williams? It is unfair to expect them to play the games so short handed.
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I wonder how Eric with a K feels about that game?
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Klearly Texas is much better than everyone thinks.
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Did anyone else see the flagrant hold on the edge when Young slipped the corner blitz and got them in fg range?
And not calling a safety there was ridiculous. What was the refs read on the end of the play? Incomplete pass?
The fact someone claimed to have seen targeted there suggests shenanigans to me. No Texas head was within 3 feet of Young’s.
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Saw that, #65 who ever he is, had his guy in a bear hug.
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There actually was a RB around the 2 that released out and to whom he threw. The ball was tipped, though, so it never got out of the end zone. And Young’a knees never touched, he just rolled over that Texas DL. As weird as the play was, incomplete pass was ultimately the correct call.
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Wasn’t Young “in the grasp” way before he released it?
I mean wasn’t the fact he was down, technically, lead to the flag?
So safety right? How could they call roughness/targeting but the ball was live? Something is fishy af.
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I’ve rewatched the play a couple times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBc0p7oXbhk
Looking back over the play, the ball hit a Texas helmet when Young threw it so it was incomplete when it hit the turf after that. However, it appears his left wrist was down as he was throwing the ball so wouldn’t that be a safety?
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It would. There is no construction of that play that ain’t a safety.
He’s either down OR he’s in the grasp.
The play was over before he let the ball go. And clearly he chucked it to avoid the safety that had already happened, but wasn’t called.
Its always a safety and its never not a safety.
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The “In the grasp” rule was removed some time back if I recall correctly.
The issue is that it was flagged as Roughing the Passer with Targeting so they could only overturn/confirm that specific call which is horse shit. They then clarified (the refs) when they came back that Roughing the Passer was incorrect and they were only looking at targeting which they finally overturned.
Looking at it live on TV, Ray Charles could have seen there was no conceivable way it was roughing the passer or targeting. UT got hosed on this play plain and simple.
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From referee.com:
“A quarterback holding the ball is a runner and there is no reason to treat him differently than any other runner. There are occasions when the play has ended by rule before the ball is released. There is no “in the grasp” rule; however, forward progress cannot be ignored. If a quarterback is moving forward or is stationary and is grabbed by a defender and thrown backward, the quarterback’s forward progress is stopped and the down has ended. Any subsequent release of the ball, either a pass or fumble, is meaningless.”
From the rule book:
Ball Declared Dead
ARTICLE 3. A live ball becomes dead and an official shall sound their whistle or declare it dead:
a. …[] when a ball carrier is so held that their forward progress is stopped. When in question, the ball is dead (A.R. 4-2-1-II).
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Your last sentence is true……but Bama.
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Now that Booch is on to resume building, who is washing the Mercedes and taking the pets for their weekly nail clippings…
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I’ll preface this by saying that this has nothing to do with the botched safety call, but with Bama Privilege in general.
Earlier in the game, I think after the second defensive PI call against Bama, one of Fox’s announcers said something along the line of “officials finally starting to call interference on Alabama.” The other announcer added on, and I’m paraphrasing from dimmed memory, “SEC fans have been complaining about this for years.” Or something like that. Am I the only one who heard that? Or did I willfully imagine it? Had this game been on CBS or ESPN that comment would likely never have been made.
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Did they mention that he held on the previous pass play? Should have been 3 in a row! Do think that non call got the discussion started!
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You didn’t imagine it, I heard the same thing.
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Wasn’t the targeting call removed after review but roughing the passer was upheld because it was not reviewable?
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They waved off roughing the passer. They reviewed targeting and overturned it. So that left it as an incomplete pass and now 4th down because they can’t review anything else.
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The ref took one look at the replay monitor and knew they had screwed the pouch. He then made up BS to drop the roughing call even though what he did was against the rules. I heard the since the ball actually hit the Texas players helmet it could not be called grounding, but I’m not sure about that.
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I don’t believe it was grounding either because he was down before or during his pass via his left wrist. That’s a safety.
I’d guess UT makes a formal complaint to whomever officiating crew it was. A fat load of good it will do…
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I believe it was a Big XII crew. They’re certain to bend over backwards to make it right with Texas now, I’m sure.
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They could have easily lost 4 last year…they will lose 3 this year.
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At this point, I never would call Bama lucky. What happened yesterday has occurred too many times since Saban arrived. To quote Omar (OBM) “You come at the king, you best not miss.”
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Omar is always right
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Is it just me, or are a fair number of players Bama would have signed since 2016 ending up in Athens now? We are signing guys we never used to get. It isn’t like Bama is just left with scrubs, but seems like that might impact depth over there.
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Kirby finds nobody in the portal an upgrade. Saban digs deep into the portal to fix his roster problems. The sun is setting on the Bama dynasty.
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That it was Henry To’o To’o, the most overrated, somehow almost always out of position LB in all of CFB, makes it even more funny.
Seriously, Brock Bowers is still running to the endzone for the game clinching TD in Indianapolis because To’o To’o was so far out of position on that play.
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Henry T would be a world-beating LB if it were, like, 2004. But make him actually cover a guy and he’s a disaster.
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Saban’s team look nothing like they did as recently as 4 years ago. The mental toughness and focus just isn’t there. Not to say it won’t be by December, but it isn’t now.
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This is likely the trade-off with taking a lot of transfers.
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He also doesn’t have Cochran, Smart or even Pruit to install it.
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Yes, when the GOAT with all those recruiting stars has to take from the transfer portal something is not right. I’m beginning to think the ranking services are ranking on the basis of offers from Alabama.
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aka the “Duke McDonald’s All-American Effect”
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Transfers starting for Bama’s offense…
RB from Tech. Gibbs is great, but it’s obvious the RB group was weak before he arrived. Bama should be stocked at RB.
LT from Vandy. Bama used to grow their own LTs
WR from UGA. We all knew Burton wasn’t replacing Metchie or Williams.
Saban hit the portal hard and got some great players because those positions were in trouble.
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But, but, Saban has the number one recruiting class Pawwwwllll.
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They won’t be in Atlanta.
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Not ready to go that far, but it certainly looks like all the coordinator turnover and not having an all timer group of receivers has caught up.
3rd and 4th and 1 and they can’t get under center and mash anymore.
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Saban was bound to stop on a whammy with the Coordinator Wheel o’Retreads, and hoo boy I think he has with BoB. Looking forward to seeing what Scott Frost can do with the Tide’s offense next season.
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It’s damn near possible that Ark is the best team in the West right now. I don’t see a more physical team than them outside us in the SEC.
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Been saying this for a while – Saban was wise to go all-in on finesse after the 2013 Auburn and 2014 tOSU disasters, but he’s left his manball flank unguarded. Bama is soft. Mentally, physically. Still ultra-talented, but it’s all individual talent. The OL sucks. The DBs suck. They’re an injury or two away from the Duke’s Mayo Bowl.
In other words, they’re a Richt team.
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During the Summer I wanted to Bama to beat Texas so bad they didn’t want to join the SEC.
Texas fans are complaining that the refs screwed them out of critical calls.
I think I got what I wanted.
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They join the conference they better get used to it when they play Alabama – It is almost like the refs and Bama have an annual contract.
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Remembering how last year’s Bama team looked like hot diarrhea against scrubs like TAMU and Auburn, yet still tanned our hides in the SECCG, I’m not shoveling any dirt on the 2022 Tide just yet.
But it’s clear they’ve got problems, and being arrogant enough to taunt an unranked 3-TD underdog you only beat by one point is a big one. Back in the Dawgs’ period of decline in 2008–10 or so, I remember reading multiple complaints on this site—from the Senator and commenters alike—that we were playing like we thought we could succeed on talent alone, without giving 100% effort or sweating the details. Bama looked like that for long stretches of the game in Austin.
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Flu can be rough on a team.
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Wait. Is that what they’re saying now?
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I think that’s probably a reference to what (some say but never have had an official type confirmation) happened to UGA in the SECCG last year.
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You’ll never hear anyone at UGA admit it, but you can tell watching that game that there was something wrong with the team’s conditioning which correlates with them being unwell during the week. There’s no way our DL was gassed in the first half like that by Alabama’s 2021 OL. But since we keep that kind of thing on lock down and don’t go whining about it at booster club meeting (ahem), it’s all speculation.
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Can we have a moment for that stunning display J. Burton put on yesterday?! 2 catches for 10 yds! The first round of the NFL draft awaits!
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My buddy and his son came to town from Birmingham and we watched the Bama game before going to see the Bulldogs. Young may win the Heisman a la Tim Brown in 1987. He looks like the only thing they have going for them on offense and their offensive line looks like a bunch of replacement level Kublanows.
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I did some fore-scoutimg yesterday and attended Texas/Bama. My take aways from upfront & personal:
1) Saban bitched & moaned all summer about the 11am kick — they didn’t arrive Round Rock Marriott til 7pm Friday night. Short night of sleep and 9am arrival to DKR. Maybe planning should have been altered?
2) The heat was a factor. TX was conditioned better.
3) The crowd effected Young & OL.
4) Bama Dbs are soft — Ewers was going for 400+ before getting pancaked by 15.
5) Horns young OL stood up Bama DL. I was shocked.
6) Gibbs ain’t shit as a RB….but that bitch is dangerous in open field RAC.
7) Burton only had 3-4 attempts — his drop across the middle was classic.
8) Bama bias was on full display — many no calls on obvious fouls/penalties.
9) Bama D plays dirty — street ball —- lacks discipline.
10) Gary Patterson is a helluva schemer — he had obviously done his homework and prepped TX D with a solid game plan to cover Bama downfield and pressure Young.
***whatever happened to “in the grasp”
Two things stand out — Young is NOT the best player nor the best QB in the nation. And Bama is not a top 5 team currently.
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Great points TB! #3 We were on the way to the UGA game and the feed on the radio was the Bama announcers. We could barely make out what they were saying! Crowd noise, not just on big plays was relentless!
#6Gibbs reminds me of Cook as a freshman, fast and shifty as they get but put so much as a hand on them and they go down.
#7 Burton is Burton good not great, totally undependable except that he will be hurt at some point.
#11 lucky motherfuckers! What is the made field goal % from inside the 10? Has to be in 90%+ range
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The way Bama pulled that game out makes me sick. I guess Bama fans were right: they ain’t shit without Metchie and Williams. Will Bama fans put an asterisk by this win because of the Ewers injury though? Not likely.
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“Bama so soft, man, the whole state” Coach 30
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If Bama players were doing “horns down” then they’ve got bigger problems than I thought.
It’s such a dumb thing to do. Like, who give a shit about Texas?
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I’m happy the way the game went.
Can’t stand Texas and their arrogance…and Bama was exposed once again as getting officiating help to the point that it saved them from a certain loss. Kind of like Tyler Simmons being called offsides. I think both fan bases (TXandAL) were kind of pissed off and disappointed. Texas because they almost won and should have won and Bama because of the same reasons.
All in all, it was a WONDERFUL day!!! TAM embarrassed, Florida and “the player of the week” exposed as fake juice…and Bama’s privilege more exposed than ever…to the point to where everyone that follows CFB will be looking for it.
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