March 6, 2013 · 11:13 AM

“¡Vaya, los perros!”, redux

It’s not that I mourn Chavez’ passing.  I just wanted an excuse to post this photo one last time.

(photo via AP)

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40 responses to ““¡Vaya, los perros!”, redux”

  1. JAX
    March 6, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    That is a disgusting photo, despite the fact that red was his favorite color and is about all he sees right now.

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  2. KornDawg
    March 6, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Pretty much the first thing that came to mind when I read that he died was this picture.

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  3. Dog in Fla
    March 6, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Hugo finally made it into the Ravine? Good thing it’s spring training. Otherwise, Dodger fans taking the Santa Ana through Chinatown to 101 for Harbor Freeway and Arroyo Seca would have to be concerned about backups on I-5, the Santa Monica and I-110.

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  4. Andy
    March 6, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    I’ve never seen this before! What is the context of this photo? I know Dawg Nation is wide and diverse, but I like to think tyrants root for Florida.

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  5. AlphaDawg
    March 6, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    Isn’t it amazing that a socialist leader who was so devoted to the poor and working people of his country could amass a fortune between 1.5 to 2 billion dollars in just 15/20 years?

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  6. W Cobb Dawg
    March 6, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    So the secret to his popularity with the trabajadores is revealed!

    Left wing, right wing, dictator, ugly, handsome, etc. – everybody looks better in UGA!!

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  7. Cojones
    March 6, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Forgot about that one with our logo which is the same for the Venezuelan Gouchos (or was it Guapos?) .

    Consulted near San Antonio, just outside Caracas before Hugo came into power. Corresponding by email with friends there proved to be risky for them in the last 10 yrs, so it was curtailed. If you fly into Caracas late evening or travel around at night, you are impressed with the surrounding mountains lit up like a Caracas-coveting Christms tree. Mountainsise lights everywhere emanating from huts or very small houses. The source of all the lights is the exposed power cables (running through the mountainside to downtown Caracas in the valley below) that have been tapped into by hundreds of thousands of poor people at risk to their lives. It has been allowed to continue for 40 years and is part of the source of power that Chavez held (not prosecuting the poor harshly).

    While he has caused Venezuela to step back some years, no one can fault his ID with poor people and what he tried to do for them. That’s why Communism appealed to him; to better the lot of poor people; whereas,it takes longer in a full democracy. In some cases many of you know that has it’s appeal in SA due to the number of countries with large poor classes. No one can forget the free heating oil Chavez gave to poor people in poor times and with escalating, life-threatening temp conditions. You could even say that he prevented heating oil price escalation from surpassing the capability of thousands to pay. It was a genuine gift with no strings attached. He never asked for nor gave qtr. for his gift at the expense of the oil companies.

    Nope, we don’t like the takeover of businesses by illegitimate power, but we know a liability exists for American business no matter the country we enter to take their commodities when most live in poverty and see very little of their largess. While it is just a fact of life (before and after we arrive) makes it no less disadvantageous to it’s people (nor to us for our part), it does not stop the wants and needs of most. Don’t confuse me as being different from other Americans about taking from other countries, it’s just that the truth about Chavez’s intentions are a mixed bag. We prefer “the dangerous Cuba-like commie govt to the south” as a description that would never take into account the feelings of most Venezuelans.

    We cheer for those who left because of Chavez (all of my Venezuelan friends are professionals who are anti-Chavez and stayed) and for those who would like to return to their country under a less forceful autocracy or full democracy, but never forget that the poor (comprising 85% in most corners) will have lost a hero and others may seize the mantle dropped. The problems there won’t go away overnight.

    At least the Palace wasn’t strafed during his tenure.

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    • AthensHomerDawg
      March 6, 2013 at 2:04 PM

      I’ve lived/worked in third world countries and am always surprised at the naivety of the insulated academician that have on occasion made short term visits there. Chavez was not much different than dictators that proceeded him. He became very wealthy under the guise of helping the poor through state bribery. Surprised he never had a Chavez phone. He did had free electricity and soccer games. Clever man.

      Bread and circuses

      “The Emperor Augustus was well aware of this risk and was keen to keep the poorest plebeians happy enough and reasonably well fed so that they would not riot. He began the system of state bribery that the writer Juvenal described as ‘bread and circuses’.

      Free grain and controlled food prices meant that plebeians could not starve, while free entertainment – such as chariot races and gladiators in amphitheaters and the Circus Maximus – meant that they would not get bored and restless. Bribery it may have been, but it often worked.”

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      • Cojones
        March 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM

        I did not come to bury Chavez nor to praise him.

        He didn’t come to power by promising those things, but he stayed in power by delivering those things. That was not meant to praise a despot, but rather for some to know how most Venezuelans feel. My Venezuelan friends would agree with the truthfulness of my statements and would reply to them very much as you have. They would add that his methods were an “insult to the intelligensia”.

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        • AthensHomerDawg
          March 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM

          We don’t always see eye to eye…. but you always been one of my favorite posters. Have your tagalog bride translate this. Ang mayamang tao fattens sa dugo ng mahihirap Mans at ang gitnang klase virgins ay hindi kailanman tila walang sapat na upang magbayad.
          My time in Manila was short but we always had a maid, gardener and sew girl. I spent a lot of time, when I wasn’t under instruction, around them. Since my time there was among instructors, street urchins, and staff. I learned a lot. I think they hoped that I would.

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          • Cojones
            March 7, 2013 at 11:46 AM

            When in London, my wife asked another Phillipino woman a question and after about 10 mins conversation, I asked what took so long, did they live near each other? No, it turns out there are 37 acknowledged dialect in Tagalog and they were having a hard time communicating. I’ll see if she reads this dialect. Probably so.

            I have never been to the Phillipines. My wife was a widow in San Diego who had originally migrated here(when she was 19-20) with her husband who was a Phillipino in the US Navy. She was the daughter of a US serviceman and didn’t know until I married her that she had earlier become a citizen twice.

            The only conversation in Tagalog she speaks to me (“papa kita-en babui” or something similar [translation?]) is infrequent and when she reverts to full communication in Tagalog, she is usually excited about something.

            I spent about 10 wks (6 trips) in Venezuela. By the way, the young people there were very ecology oriented in the early 90s. Who would have thunk it? Some were familiar with Dr Eugene Odum, the UGA professor who is known as the Father of Ecology (having written the first college textbook in the subject), but considered Americans, by and large, as pollutors.

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      • Dog in Fla
        March 6, 2013 at 3:08 PM

        “Surprised he never had a Chavez phone.” I blame W. Plus the U.N. ‘doesn’t smell of sulfur anymore,’ remark didn’t exactly help.

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      • Mr. Sanchez
        March 6, 2013 at 4:37 PM

        Bread and circuses. Looks at McDonald’s $ menu, and American Idol.

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        • AlphaDawg
          March 6, 2013 at 5:08 PM

          Thats the post of the day, and it applies to every president since LBJ.

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        • AthensHomerDawg
          March 6, 2013 at 5:23 PM

          You are beginning to surprise me Mr. Sanchez. Of course I am always disappointed in myself when I misjudge someone and tend to over correct whilst making up for it. Can we hope that this is just a outlier and I really haven’t been a “douche”.?
          just typing.

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        • Jax
          March 6, 2013 at 8:23 PM

          Or look at your local public high school.

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    • Dog in Fla
      March 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM

      “At least the Palace wasn’t strafed during his tenure.”

      Because of surface-to-air missiles or because Chávez (whom I did not know was from Auburn), Ozzie Guillen and Madonna were revered by beaucoup comrades?

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/05/hugo-chavez-poor-leftwing-figurehead

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      • Cojones
        March 6, 2013 at 3:18 PM

        Because he made damn sure that the military would do what he said before they could get into a plane. The Palace is positioned to downtown Caracas like Decatur is to Atlanta, so when a dissident pilot strafed the Palace of his predecessor, he endangered many lives in the area. I was toured past the Palace and the path the pilot took was pointed out to me. Everyone seemed to regret that he missed the previous despot rather than the danger posed to citizenry.

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  8. Faulkner
    March 6, 2013 at 8:33 PM

    He may have started out with good intentions but as is usually the case the money and power corrupt. Very few SA leaders who came to power were able to hold on to their ideals and not succumb to the power the position offered.
    Mel Brooks was right “It’s good to be the king”

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  9. jdrip
    March 6, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Momma always said'” only speak good of the dead ” O.K. Chavez” is dead…..good.

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