I guess I should have expected it, but it’s still been something to read all of the angst on Dawg message boards and in some of the comments here as a consequence of Smart’s decision to coach Alabama’s defense in the CFP. Saban’s made Georgia his bitch, Kirby’s a chump, recruiting is a mess, where are the new assistant coaches… you name a topic, there’s venting about it.
Why so worked up, peeps?
Yes, there have been a moderate number of defections on the recruiting front. But Eason has reaffirmed his commitment and there are kids, like Ben Davis, who’ve stepped up to claim a new, strong interest in Georgia that more than offset the number of decommitments. It’s the dead period, so whatever contact there is between the coaching staff and recruits during this time is largely going to occur under the radar, anyway.
As for the coaching staff, again, given how closemouthed Smart’s been to date, why should anyone expect to know who he’s spoken with about the open assistant positions, or even how he envisions the makeup of his staff until we’re presented with the hires? And what exactly does Georgia gain by naming someone to, say, the spot vacated by Thomas Brown today rather than a week or two from now? Certainly nothing on the Xs and Os side and, again, as far as recruiting goes, it doesn’t seem like the Dawgs under Smart are running into huge problems right now with six coaches running things during the month of December.
It’s the internet age and we all have short attention spans. I know. But we’d best get used to receiving news about the program at the pace Smart prefers rather than what we’d like. ‘Cause that’s part of the Process.
Holy crap, THANK YOU! Sick of reading about how the sky is falling.
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@bulldogbry: No the sky is falling the world is coming to and end, Sandford Stadium is going to sink into the creek, Jason is coming back to destroy movies, etc etc. Just think how bad it will get if the team does not perform up to what some fans expectations are going to be. The horror of a poor spring game. Oh my.
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Sanford— sorry.
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For real. The spring game will be one of the most analyzed (by ‘experts) in recent years.
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Agreed…many thanks.
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Because why???
Why is Kirby still working for Bama?
For a chance at a NC? He’s got a pocket full of em and plenty time for more.
For a $100,000 bonus? Please.
Loyal to his players? Please.
Why???
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Because he hates Georgia, obviously. Just like Richt did when he was hired.
Unless you know the guy, your speculation is both pointless and silly.
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He wants to finish the job he was paid millions to do. This is honorable and more coaches should follow his example.
He also doesn’t want to burn any bridges because he will need them in four years when he doesn’t average 10 wins per season.
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I’m cynical, so your second paragraph rings WAY more true than your first one, but there’s still an honor of sorts in not burning bridges.
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So hard the lulz…you think that leaving a school to take another job would burn bridges? Have to seen the things that these coaches do and how incestuous the business is. I am not sure you can burn a bridge in the coaching world.
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Kiffin managed to do it. When people start naming sewer plants after you, you’ve really made an impression.
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But Senator, it’s in our DNA to worry, at least for those of us who grew up with Larry Munson. We MUST see the glass as half empty, that is what we know how to do.
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Munson worried. He never bitched and moaned. Big difference.
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How dare you bring reason to this blog!
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Thank you Senator. I stopped reading comments because they are so insane. Hope it gets back to “normal” soon.
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Amen, brothers and sisters.
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Yep. Some commenters have gotten to just plain name calling. One guy in particular calls people “squirter” if he does not like their opinion. Isn’t that right Homer?
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There’s been plenty of name calling and personal insults over the last month across the spectrum since the Sunday after the tech game.
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Good Lord, how much glass did you break in your house throwing those stones?
Christmas Eve truce y’all….
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I thought his name was either Hassan or Chili and Homer thought he had the squirts.
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+1
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While one should never be shocked at the stupidity of message board posters, the handwringing over the issues you mention by many is surprising. Let the man coach. Let him build his staff. I think everyone needs to remind themselves if the following axiom, “if you are worried about who the assistant coaches are, you have the wrong head coach.”
For the first 5 seasons under Richt, I never thought about whether the coaching staff was good enough because Richt gave us little reason for doubt.
Additionally, assistant coaches come and go, but it is the head coach that creates the culture and leadership across all aspects of the program. Thus, the whole exercise of playing “fantasy football with assistant coaches resumes” is a fool’s errand. Let the man build his staff as he sees fit.
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This is interesting. my perception is that the staff has become much more of a source for news, drama, and prominence in the last decade. Coordinators were hardly ever mentioned in the media unless they were in the hunt for a head position. You’d never see the tv camera on them either. Heck, this season, the S and C guy is “the one that makes or breaks the team”, “the most important person with unlimited player contact”.
I wonder when the medical facilities and staff wars will start? “We have an MRI system in the locker room and we will check you out after every game!”
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I’d feel a shit-ton better about the whole enterprise if the facilities wars went in that direction than I would seeing that money spent on a putt-putt course or a laser tag space.
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Senator, I’ll admit that I don’t like the pace at which the staff is being named. He said he was going to take his time and certainly has done that. I would have liked for Smart to be in Athens already, but I understand his desire to be with his team. I don’t think we’re going to get much publicity from it because Saban isn’t going to let Smart be in front of the camera and microphones. I like Sherrer and Rocker staying on. I hate that McLendon or Brown isn’t gong to be on the staff. I’m concerned about the decommitted recruits because we need good players now. The sky isn’t falling, but there’s a part of me that will be hoping Michigan State wins on New Year’s Eve (as long as it’s Junior’s fault).
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You realize two of the decommitments are from the 2017 class, right?
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Yes, I do realize that. We don’t know how many are reopening their recruitment. I also think we better be ready to hit the ground running in January. That’s why I think it would be best for us if Alabama loses on December 31.
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Here’s hoping for a 2-0 Sparty win on a punt-snap out of the end zone!
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Kirbo ain’t got time for this whining shit….he got to get a new ring to dust off.
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The ones doing the griping about the pace of things and seeing the sky falling, would be the same ones bitching about poor performance cause he moved too fast and didn’t get quality coaches and players.
Leave the man alone!
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Yep damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Welcome to the new age of sports fans.
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Amen. People wanted the leaks from BM stopped…well, they’re stopped now.
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Like your AD post (it could be worse), look at Southern Cal – three weeks ago USC promoted Clay Helton to Head Coach. Two weeks ago Helton cleaned house with the coaching staff.
The only position that has been filled (as of this writing) is Tee Martin (former UTk QB) is their Offensive Coordinator.
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For a first-time HC of a major college program, I wouldn’t choose to have him start this way. But I don’t get to choose, so merely an observation and nothing more. He’s spoken to DawgNation…once?
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In December 2016 the DC job at Bama is more attractive than the HC position at UGA.
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In December 2000, OC at FSU was more attractive than head coach @ UGA.
Burn it down and salt the earth!
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We fired that guy.
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and he never even played for a national title.
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Who cares? Rings collect dust.
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In Soviet Russia, internet trolls YOU!
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Maybe Kirby knows that if Bama wins, Saban is off to the Saints/Colts?
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I dream of him coaching Dallas. I also dream of reading transcripts of everything he says to jerry.
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Read my post from yesterday about this subject..under sleeping with the enemy. I think I summed it up pretty good. I for one will not read or listen to
the hackling down trodden HENS any more….Just read my most from yesterday. SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY
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no.
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DOG MAN, are you Will Trane’s other personality? Your opinions differ, but that spelling/grammar/syntax/etc. is pretty similar except for your penchant for ALL CAPS here and there.
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There is a group of fans that are always going to gripe. They griped that Dooley didn’t pass the ball enough when we had Herschel. They griped every time Shockley was put in a game so he could get a little experience before his Senior season….when he of course won the SEC. They griped that we needed to fire Richt and hire Muschamp. For years they griped that we needed to get rid of Bobo including his last three when UGA had the best offense in the history of the school and one of the best in the country. Of course they almost immediately griped about his replacement. They griped throughout Aaron Murray’s career that we needed to bench him and play Hudson Mason. Now they are griping about Kirby. Unfortunately that group is always going to gripe. Just wait until Kirby loses a game….
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Oh lord yes, imagine if he loses 2 games.
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It’s all very ironic that many who were in such a rush for Richt to be fired now want everyone else to be calm and patient. You don’t fire a successful coach and then take a south Carolina attitude towards rebuilding. That makes no sense. Lol
Rationalize it however but make no mistake…we ARE Bama’s bitch. Our head coach helping Bama win another NC is not getting Georgia any closer to another of our own, or to closing the recruiting gap.
No, the sky isn’t falling but I’m not fooling myself into believing some of the things I’ve read, either.
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Speaking of making no sense, I have no idea what that means.
As far as closing the recruiting gap goes, how can you judge that until signing day?
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Just curious, did trying to fight Bama in the tunnel and then losing by 28 in front of virtually every top prospect in the state of Georgia and in front of the entire country I have anything to do with being Bama’s bitch? If so, please explain Kirby’s role in this. I’ll hang up and listen.
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This. This right here.
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“Rationalize it however but make no mistake…we ARE Bama’s bitch.”
Perfect example of willful ignorance. Since you’ve already decided that we’re Bama’s “bitch,” no amount of rational discussion will dissuade you.
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basically every team in the country is chasing bama. You can just look around at the number of programs trying to copy the process and know that everyone wishes they were bama.
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It’s the end as well of daily swings in the information highway that bloggers like to speculate on. Now, blogs can only come once a news is officially released. I guess you can call it less 2nd guessing.
Life won’t be as interesting and profitable like during the old regime, LOL.
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With regards to Kirby, I think he is showing some confidence (I hope) that he can hold on the current committed 2016 recruiting class even with his seeming absence.
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I think the “Internet age” thing is a big contributor to this, mostly because the flow and sharing of information is both faster and deeper than it was even five years ago.
For example, people are tracking the UGA plane and connecting the dots with regard to assistant coach interviews and hirings, and those people’s speculation has in many cases proven to be on the mark. (I was monitoring a couple of message board threads that correctly named Chaney and Pittman as targets based largely on flight tracking days before those hires were announced). That really didn’t happen, at least not to this extent, after Donnan was fired.
Augmenting that, people are also disseminating information on Kirby’s known — in some cases, publicly announced — “first choices,” which included the likes of Thomas Brown, Dan Enos, and Scott Cochran. When we get to watch the headhunting/hiring/rejection process unfold in something close to real time, it invites conversation.
Combine that with the storied history of the Georgia Way, and I think it’s understandable that a number of folks are concerned that Georgia is being outbid or otherwise can’t compete with our local competition when it comes to hiring the assistants the new head coach wants.
Pittman appears to be a home-run kind of hire, but beyond that, the new hires up to this point are unexciting. We’re talking about a glorified graduate assistant and an OC, whose name was largely unknown locally, whose numbers over the years don’t exactly jump off the page. Retaining Rocker seems like a good move, based on his track record, and Sherrer worked with Kirby for a while, so there’s that. Contrast that with the established recruiting prowess of McClendon, Brown, and Pruitt, and I think some measure of concern is justified.
And when the portion of the fanbase who vocally clamored for a rookie head coach did so with the expectation that he’d somehow bring an all-star cast of Saban’s other assistants with him, it stands to reason that that same contingent would be at least equally vocal if/when Kirby didn’t do so. And if he ends up rounding out the staff with a handful of other Alabama QC personnel and similarly un-splashy names, prepare for at least several months of continued proclamations of gloom and doom.
Personally, I look forward to seeing another list of SEC football budgets for 2016, once all the hires are made (including support staff and S&C coaches). If Georgia’s budget is unchanged between now and then, it doesn’t bode well for Kirby’s ability to emulate “The Process” in Athens, which seems to have been many people’s expectation when he was hired.
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I should have included this: I personally don’t think it means much that Kirby is in Tuscaloosa right now. At worst, maybe it affected his ability to respond quickly to other teams’ offers to the likes of Brown and McClendon (if he had any intention of trying to retain McClendon, which he may not have). As for recruiting, we’re going to lose whatever players were closely bound to the assistant coaches who we’ve lost, whether Kirby’s in Athens or Tuscaloosa.
But what Kirby’s doing with Alabama right now is something a lot of other first-time HCs have done over the years, especially when their current teams were heading toward national championship games. It’s standard practice.
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Great post. But none of this is unique to UGA.
I’ll go ahead and admit that right now I’m following Miami closer than I’m following UGA. And if that makes me a bad fan so be it. But it is so interesting to watch the Miami fans hanging on news of every assistant coach hire. They are getting all their news from a leaky Butts Mehre.
The truth is that that this is entire industry is subject to extraordinary turnover every year at this time (And we haven’t even had NFL’s black Monday yet) . And now that salaries are skyrocketing, some of these assistant coaches have several good options. Some want to stay put for more money, some don’t know if they have a job. It is all in motion for the next month.
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Indeed, it’s not unique to UGA. It’s the way of the college football world at this point — really, it’s the way of the world in general.
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Kirby announced Rocker and Sherrreer were staying an hour before word got out that Thomas Brown was leaving. I doubt that was a coincidence.
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I definitely don’t get the “Bama’s bitch”
or “Saban’s bitch” comments just because Kirby is staying on. I don’t think there’s an assistant coach out there who wouldn’t stay through the playoffs in this situation. If it was just a bowl game (and yes, it sucks that nowadays bowls have been largely reduced to “just” a bowl game), I’d be pissed if Kirby didn’t go ahead and come on to Athens. But when a national title is on the line, the right thing is to stay and finish it out. If we were hiring someone from Michigan State and they were staying on through the playoffs, you wouldn’t hear people saying Dantonio was making us his bitch. People are only saying it because of the school/coach involved.
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And BMac is staying thru the bowl game too.
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Chill, Dawgs. These 30 days won’t make or break Smart at UGA.
Don’t know if y’all will land Davis or not, but you will enjoy this type of linebacker.
Kind of chuckled at y’all gushing over Ganus this year. He’s a tough player and good kid – a model player for any program, really, but…
I watched this kid play safety and QB in high school at probably 180 or 190 pounds. Good athlete, but there’s a difference in adding 40 pounds of bulk and coming out of the gates at 230. (Similar I would say to a 300 lb freshman vs a 300 pound junior…there’s just a difference. One is a full-growed man and the other one isn’t.)
You will like these big linebackers.
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BD, these 30 days won’t make or break him, but the elevated expectations that started the Sunday after Thanksgiving will. If I were him, I would be doing everything in my power to get off to a fast start. People on the east side of the Chattahoochee have generally been a pretty patient bunch, but Kirby is probably going to find that patience is gone now.
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Yeah, and I think that he’s in a rather precarious position as a rookie HC because of that.
Georgia fired a proven commodity to hire Kirby. Regardless of the quality of the wins and losses, Richt could be counted on to deliver 9 to 10 wins per season, which significantly exceeded Georgia’s all-time historical average of roughly 7 wins per season.
With that in mind, if Kirby doesn’t routinely win 10+ games, starting almost right out of the gate (maybe he’ll get something of a pass for 2016), he’ll be on the hot seat very, very quickly.
The bar has been set very high for Kirby: it’s basically “SEC championships or bust,” starting no later than year two of his head-coaching career. That’s a lot of pressure.
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I think 8+ wins in 2016 is a reasonable expectation, but my expectations grow rapidly after that. He needs multiple appearances in Atlanta over the next 5 years to be successful.
I’m afraid the big money people have made it abundantly clear that there better be an SEC championship at a minimum during his first contract.
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I have to imagine that’s the case (that the people pulling the strings have issued the mandate you describe).
In fact, I have a feeling that if Kirby doesn’t win the SEC by year four, he’ll be fired without finishing out the contract, and McGarity will accompany him out the door.
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Can you at least send the Coke bottle over to talk to us? We’re lonely.
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I think Sexton is getting those put in all the Wal Marts so we can all get our own.
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We have experience with big linebackers. Way back in 2014 Wilson and Herrera were 230-240. They were good against the run. And that’s all I’ve got to say about that.
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This just isn’t true. UGA fans are actually a pretty patient lot. Richt didn’t get fired because he was losing. He got fired because he was getting embarrassed and was out of excuses. He ran through everyone it could be blamed on untile there was no one left.
If Kirby averages 9-3 while managing to avoid 28 point drubbings at home and complete no shows in Jax., then I’d venture to say he’ll be around a while.
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Averaging 9-3 at Georgia would be a truly impressive accomplishment. It would place Kirby among Georgia’s top two coaches of all time. I hope he can pull it off.
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What if in addition to that, he could win something like 13 of 15 verses Tech! That would be awesome!
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And don’t forget 8 out of 10 over the Barn.
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Moral victories FTW!
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Kirby was Saban’s DC for 8 years. Saban’s the guy who gave Smart the chance to succeed and get in a position to make millions doing something he loves. Smart is now showing some final respect and loyalty to the guy who helped him so much. What the hell is wrong with that? It is what I would have done and is the kind of guy I want as my head coach.
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If we wanted nobility and class, we could have kept our old coach.
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There’s zero evidence that Kirby is being compelled or coerced into coaching Bama through the postseason. The “Saban’s bitch” meme is just that — a meme, supported entirely by people’s (mostly subjective and pathetic) impressions of Saban’s reputation.
As far as anyone can tell, Kirby made this decision primarily to fulfill a commitment — to “finish the drill,” if you will — which shows character. And herein lies the irony of people bitching about it. They praised Richt for being a man of integrity, someone who sticks to his commitments (even if sometimes to a fault), … and then, when Kirby does the same damned thing, it’s just him being “Saban’s bitch.”
What I find most interesting about all of this is that no one wants to talk about the apparent disconnect between what Richt has been preaching to his guys for years and some of the decisions that he made over the past month or so. As much as I’m sure they still love and respect him, I’m betting that many of our players got mixed messages from Richt during those last couple of weeks.
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I agree but the last paragraph. I think that thought is pure McGarity, he waited a few years and when he finally had his chance to tell CMR what he can and can’t do, he jumped on it and told CMR to hit the road and gimme your cell phone and computer, your office will be cleaned out and delivered to your house, gimme your key. (I don’t know, conjecture on my part) It took a few days for CMR to get in front of his players.
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Good comment
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I think most of the criticism originated from McG’s ham-handed way of letting CMR go and bringing in CKS. There’s valid questions about letting Pruitt and BMac walk. And Brown walks away after it was all but certain he would remain. Then there’s the issue of the bowl game – and questions about who’s coaching, and who in our program actually gives a damn about it. Finally, our new HC is actually coaching at another school and sharing an office with our ex-DC Pruitt. Both of them are working toward a national championship – at another school!
Now, one or two of the above actions might cause some heads to turn. But all of them together tells me we’ve got one messed up process going on.
Richt, Pruitt & BMac were closing in on a top recruiting class and had built some momentum. They’ll be recruiting against us from now on. In regard to the Davis recruit I’ll say this: until a bama kid actually signs with us I’ll consider it a pipe dream. If I’m not mistaken, Ben Jones was the last guy from bama to sign with us, and he was a legacy.
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I dont care about the speed of the coaching changes. What I think is that Kirby was a bad hire and he has done nothing to make me think any differently. He doesnt care what I think though. The coaches that he has hired dont instill confidence. I am fully prepared for Mushchamp redux at UGA for the next 5 years.
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I hope CKS can replicate CMR’s success and maybe catch a break with a national championship. I’m also wary of the potential for a decade plus of wandering in the wilderness.
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My hopes and thoughts exactly we.
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On the opposite end, I am optimistic about Kirby and the future of Georgia football. It feels nice for a change.
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In today’s Internet world, hype and program momentum are important. Unfortunately, at least at this early stage, Kirby has remained pretty mum. While this may be Saban’s m.o., he has street cred and Kirby does not (with his total number of wins as a head coach being nil).
Recruits have lots of choices and between the so-so excitement around our program and literally having to start the entire recruiting process over (everyone is gone) with less than three weeks to signing day, cannot be good.
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Recruiting will be better than expected this year! New players considering UGA this year are better than the ones de committed. Because of. Smart
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Well, I guess it could move up to 2 or 1. It was already on track to be #3. So, yeah there’s room for improvement.
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Hey Dolly Llama I never said any thing in my post about you.
But you have about me, so let me set the record….Kiss my ass right in the center.
You are an ASSHOLE BABY. That explains why your such an asshole.
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Find another place to show your ass, man. You’ve worn out your welcome here.
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I would like Smart to come to Athens because of the tautology that he can do a better job spending all of his time as UGA coach than splitting his time between UGA and Bama. Can he work for Bama and still do a decent job for UGA? Perhaps. Are there mission critical items that he’s neglecting? Perhaps not. But I would just like the guy to do the best job for us that he can, which requires that he dedicate himself to that job, rather than another.
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Bama fired Shula November 27, 2006. Nick Saban wasn’t hired until January 3rd, 2007. Bama was at a greater disadvantage (no coach at all, with major rebuilding needed) than UGA is with Smart now. But it didn’t matter because we got the right guy. I think UGA got the right guy, so who he coaches for in the next 2 weeks will be of little consequence to the long-term success of the UGA program.
No need to sweat it myDawg friends.
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