Your 8.5.20 Playpen

Regrettably, I’ve come to the point where I feel I have no choice but to make some changes to commenting here at the blog.

It’s regrettable because I’ve been a firm believer since the day I started GTP that a free-wheeling comments section makes for a better experience for the readership here.  The last six months of watching how some of you have reacted to the pandemic has changed my mind about that.  I’ve tried in as many ways as I can to channel discussion so that the comment threads aren’t overwhelmed with irrelevant debate, name calling and other forms of personal disagreement, but nothing has worked, to my disappointment.

In the past few days, it’s culminated in a feeling that I’ve never experienced before:  the blog has become something a drudge for me.  Not writing about college football and related matters — that stuff is still fun — but spending greater amounts of time and energy babysitting the comments section.  And I’ll be the first to admit I’m not doing a very good job with that right now.

My last try at getting a handle on things has turned out to be a complete flop.  Some of you don’t understand how it works.  Some of you have simply continued to plow right through my requests to respect the commenting space.  And the time I spend monitoring your behavior has actually increased, and rather significantly at that.

It’s gotten to the point where I’m devoting so much attention here that it’s bleeding into time I should be spending on my day job and my family.  That ain’t right and I can’t continue to do that.  So, I’m making two changes, with the hope that I won’t have to make any more, but with the understanding that I still have a couple of options left to use if I need to.

Effective immediately, I’m ditching the timeout.  The two folks who are in there now are being moved out.  (That doesn’t apply to anyone who has been banned.  They’re still gone.)  Instead, I’m going to take a different step when I find that a comment thread has gone off the rails:  I’ll shut down the comment thread in its entirety.  That’s much easier for me to monitor and it achieves the same end result.  Further, if I find a person is repeatedly responsible for thread closings, I’ll boot them from commenting altogether.

By the way, I’m not going to waste your time or mine elucidating the rules again.  Gawd knows I’ve spent plenty of bandwidth doing that already.  You know where the lines are drawn.  You also know the Playpen exists for whatever off-topic musings you want to dive into.  Either respect the blog protocols, or find someplace else to comment.

The second change will come Saturday, so that I have the weekend to make sure it works.  Starting then, you will have to register to comment at Get The Picture.  You can still use your moniker as opposed to your real name, if you so choose, but you will have to provide me with a working, real world, email address in order to register.  I don’t wish to clog the comments section with warnings about behavior anymore, and that means I must have a valid way to reach you with a message.

There won’t be any further limitations on your access to commenting than that, but I will tell you that registration gives me the ability to condition your comments appearing upon administrative approval.  I don’t want to do that for several reasons, but I won’t pretend it’s not a future option if circumstances warrant it.

I’m not going to apologize to you for this.  It’s been a long time coming, and, quite frankly, it’s something of a relief for me.  I can also say the number of emails I’ve received over the past two months asking for something to be done about out of control commenters has been the highest I’ve ever received in such a period.

I hope everyone will work with me to make the comments a better place than it’s been of late.

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  1. DawgStats

    2020…

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      • The coronavirus is awful. But I’m not certain I know which is worse… the actual virus, or what it’s revealed about us all, collectively.

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        • gastr1

          As this is the Playpen and all…a lot is revealed when the leadership’s primary investment is polarizing and dividing. People take sides and berate the other because that’s pretty much what they’ve been encouraged to do.

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          • If your point is that some people appear incapable of having reasonable discussion around “hot button” issues, but rather seem only capable of “taking sides and berating” each other, fair enough.

            But if your point is that the Senator is to blame for their foolishness because they can’t control themselves — even after he’s laid simple ground rules time and time again — then you’re wrong.

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          • … I was thinking your “leadership” reference was aimed at the Senator… reading it again I realize you could mean some other “leadership”.

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          • Derek

            The host has tried to inform people on the effects of the pandemic on the sport he has a blog about.

            Because the governmental response has been a total catastrophuck:

            leading to more consequence and uncertainty about the topic here: Georgia football, a small but sizable number of commenters here have tried anything and everything not to share in the responsibility for the fact that the topic of discussion here is being adversely impacted by the natural and probable consequences of their own piss poor decision making.

            That dissembling has included, among other things, conspiracy theories, diminishing the threat, and just out right lying.

            When told “stats” were playpen, they used the word “data” and pretended they were different things. As far as i know, they actually think they are.

            “Hell is the impossibility of reason.”

            And you can’t reason with people who are disingenuous and only interested in promoting an ideology rather than seeking the truth.

            Not that it’s entirely their fault as they’ve been programmed by tv, radio and the internet:

            “Ideological subversion” is a tactic used to change the perception of reality to such an extent that despite of the abundance of available information people affected thereby are unable to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

              Well, whether it’s stats or data or however you want to phrase it, you can’t argue with the numbers so you continue to follow the Rules for Radicals playbook to the “T” and label what we can see with our own eyes from the CDC and other reputable organizations as “ideological subversion” when they don’t fit the narrative, because you’re all about the narrative. Early on when the data (stats) fit your preferred narrative you were all about them. Now that the stats (data) no longer fit your preferred narrative, they then become “programming” by the evil “other” you see all around you.

              I’m normally incredibly happy to not live my life so chained to ideology that I can’t see anything but that belief system, but now, I’m more so. I know many people probably think I don’t like you, but I’d happily buy you a beer and sit and speak with you. You’re fascinating.

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            • What you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion.

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            • gastr1

              I could have been more specific, yes. So, to rectify that, I was referring to President Donald J. Trump, 45th president of the United States of America.

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            • Justadawg

              Welcome to earth!

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      • Greg

        A new world, kudos to you for taking a stance. It should only improve your blog.

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  2. bcdawg97

    I hope things work out and we can start truly talking football again. As always, thank you for what you do with the blog. Hopefully the people who are causing you trouble realize they are the ones doing so and reign it in. I mean really – we all know that person who ruins it for everyone else. Stop being the turd in the punch bowl!

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  3. Hogbody Spradlin

    I know you don’t need me to perk you up, but look at the bright side. You’re a victim of your own success.
    And don’t feel like you’ve done any worse than any other blog. I’ve never seen an internet blog on which people behave as well as they would in a person to person meeting. That goes for everything from Twitter right down to the local Nextdoor thing.
    It’s like when people get behind the wheel of a car. Perfectly nice Hogbodies turn into tailgating horn blowing monsters.

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    • Oh, trust me, I don’t feel like a failure.

      But I’ve been a fierce defender of free expression at online forums like this and it truly sucks that I have to retreat from that to some extent.

      I just hope this is as far as I have to go.

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      • Hogbody Spradlin

        Did your Con Law instructor bring up the “college debate society vs. rough and tumble barroom” theory for the first amendment? I remember it when we did New York Times vs. Sullivan. Good analogy to what you’re saying.

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        • I always chuckle a little when I see the First Amendment brought up in the context of private behavior at a blog. If I had a buck for every person I’ve banned yelling at me for violating their Constitutional rights, I could buy myself a nice dinner.

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          • Hogbody Spradlin

            Be assured I roll my eyes at people who use the First Amendment as a club against private institutions, but my point was about the vigor of debate.

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          • We are living in interesting times. You are absolutely correct about rights in context of private behavior on a football blog. What IS interesting is the conversation going on right now about Twitter and whether the admins there should continue to have the right to ban certain speech while letting others run rampant. It wasn’t an issue until Twitter became the most popular platform of political conversation and debate in the world, not to mention the primary means our president communicates with us. Banning someone there is, in a way, similar to silencing their public voice. Again…we are living in interesting times.

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            • Not saying that you are but, those who are pro free market and pro deregulation of businesses really have nothing to complain about when a private business does what it wants. If Twitter wants to block everything but tweets about cupcakes then they should be allowed to and the free market will decide if their business model is working or not.

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              • UGA'13

                Playing Devil’s Advocate here, as I find myself wishing Twitter/Facebook would do a better job of moderating disinformation, but the issue with your free market + deregulation argument is that these companies are currently under investigation for monopolizing their industries.

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                • And they will get away with it. Unfortunately.

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                • Dawgflan

                  To counter your devil’s advocate – isn’t antitrust itself a regulation a distortion of natural/free market forces? 🙂

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                • Yes, but as Adam Smith recognized, unregulated free markets lead to monopolies or cartels. Without regulation, free markets do not remain free.

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                • As an objectivist my biggest issue is that government props up major corporations and monopolies more often than not. I don’t think anti-trust would become as much of an issue if the corporations had not been allowed an unfair path in the 1st place. Too big to fail is one example. All the money that should have gone to the people that went to corporations in this pandemic as another example.

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                • Dawgflan

                  Agree with both you and Sam J above. I am for anti-trust and regulations that capture externalities and address corruption. They help keep markets free* even if they are note FREE. 🙂

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              • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                This is both true and not true. When Twitter crosses the line from being a platform into being a publisher, which they have, then they are subject to not only rights issues but are legally liable for what is published. For instance, we saw pics of the Admin Dashboard a few weeks ago, and on their dashboard were tools that Jack and other Twitter Execs told Congress they didn’t have, tools that would make them a publisher of content (blacklists and such) who chooses to censor based on whim and not any specific type of rule.

                For instance, this is the Senator’s blog. I’ve said it more than once that we’re here at his pleasure. If he chooses to give some a little more leeway in breaking the rules and and some less, that’s his prerogative. I’ve seen others bring this up the last few weeks (and it’s probably added to the good Senator’s exasperation because I don’t believe if it happens it’s do to any malicious intent), but you won’t see me doing so. I enjoy being here. I know some of y’all don’t enjoy me being here, but life is no fun if we all agree and I like to think I leave most of the nastiness of disagreement at the door. The only time I went after someone personally is when he called me a racist due to his extremely poor reading comprehension. Otherwise, I try to keep it above board.

                I have no problem will declaring Facebook and Twitter as public utilities because they are defacto parts of the public square that are for the public good, and provide FCC oversight into what they do. I know many people here think I’m a right winger or libertarian or whatever, but I’ve always been a liberal, and I have no issue with governmental oversight when it’s needed.

                As for the Senator, this is his fiefdom, and I respect that and more, appreciate that.

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                • I’m all for regulation where it’s warranted. But there will always be arguments as to what deserves to be regulated and what doesn’t. Everyone has their own line drawn in the sand.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  I respect that.

                  I think we’ve reached that line with Twitter more than anything else. I’m not on Facebook, so I have no idea how bad it is over there, but it’s obvious Twitter’s San Francisco-based admins are out of control.

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                • I started a facebook account to keep up with kids and family. If anything it’s more polarized and pedantic than the playpen gets around here.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  That doesn’t surprise me. It should, because I assume most people get in Facebook as you did to keep up with family, but I guess in this fucked-up tribal world, having a connection to the Georgia Bulldogs allows for more relative goodwill than having a blood connection.

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                • After hurricane Michael I removed all friends from FB and use it only for business type stuff like looking at city postings and local events. So kinda like local news. It’s much better.

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                • mddawg

                  Agreed 100%, and I believe that a lot of the disagreements on politics are matters of degrees regarding those lines in the sand. For instance, I’d bet that just about everyone is opposed to government waste. Seems simple, right? Nobody wants the government squandering our tax dollars. But when we start talking about which spending is wasteful and which isn’t, that’s when the claws come out.

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              • They can do whatever the heck they want if they’re treated under the law as a publisher. Theve been able to skate on 2 sides of the coin. That’s my issue.

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            • Derek

              Keep in mind that there is a difference between:

              Opinions and lies.

              If the lies are coming from one side, thats not twitters fault.

              There is no reason they should be forced to host lies and disinformation and/or threats, a different category but ine that can reasonably be policed.

              Opinions should be treated equally.

              Ant btw an asterisks with a warning: this might be bullshit is not censorship.

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              • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                There are certain inflammatory words you tend to you use with abandon (traitor! lies! racist!) that make them have far less impact when you use them. Truth is not subjective, but dang it all if you don’t want it to be.

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                • Derek

                  Sorry. A lot of us share that opinion.

                  Why are they wrong?

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  No more than the stats (data) that tell us that Covid-19 is statistically less dangerous than the flu and pneumonia for healthy people under the age of 30 and statistically no different for those from 30-60.

                  So why are they wrong?

                  That’s some pretty slick propaganda, though. I don’t need to see those things to know I don’t like Trump, but I also know he’s not a “TRAITOR.” The one thing I’ll never understand about people like you is you want people to believe that Trump is both an evil mastermind genius bent on fascist conquest and also as a complete and total moron depending on the particular point of view you want to advocate in that minute.

                  I just see him as a clown and leave it at that.

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                • Derek

                  Russians would NEVER use a clown!

                  How do you “know?”

                  You can be stupid AND a traitor. When the russians pull a military covert action against our elections you take AMERICA’S side, not Putin’s word.

                  Even if you’re doing it because you’re an idiot or because its politically expedient to do so, you’re still a traitor.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

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                • mddawg

                  Stolen meme:

                  One of the best insults ever is “Who is this clown?” because:
                  1. You’re calling them a clown.
                  2. You’re saying they’re not even a well-known clown.

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                • They said the thing same thing about George Bush. Reagan. Dumbest fool to ever grace the office but capable of the most complex government overthrow mastermind super genius things possible. Trump had very little almost 0 political ties and influence had never been a politician. Yet he was running the government from the White House all the way down to my house with a level of detail the nazis. couldn’t comprehend.

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                • Those words only seem inflammatory to you because they may smack of reality.

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              • If only it was so clear cut as you like to believe. There have been some very controversial issues on there of late. One of them is the automatic banning of someone who is perceived as mis-gendering another.

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                • Derek

                  And that would be valuable speech, how Miss dude?

                  Why do you need to publicly reveal a transgender person?

                  What does that add to public discord to say: “i knew x when he had a dick” in a public forum?

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  Yeah, that’s not what he’s talking about, Derek.

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                • Derek

                  Give us a good misgendering. The type that you think we need, corch.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  There you go again, Derek. Seriously, your reading comprehension is extremely poor.

                  Please, read again what dudemankind said. As before, you’re missing a key word that should clear things up for someone even as ideologically dogmatic as you.

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                • Derek

                  Corch, I googled social media and misgendering after I read the post as I’m not up on the whole “we’re being repressed” white man anger forums.

                  Im trying to see where the overreach is.

                  Give any example of an innocent comment along the lines of misgendering that led to a ban and then we’ll all know what you two ladies are all concerned about.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  Again, you bluster ahead with assumptions based on an extremely poor lack of reading comprehension.

                  Please read again what dudemankind wrote. Identify the single word (it honestly is just one word) that should unlock the door to understanding for you.

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                • Derek

                  So it all turns on “perceived,” eh?

                  Seriously?

                  Like David Duke is “perceived” as a white supremacist?

                  I guess if you add that magic word you can’t ban anything.

                  You’re a real (name calling redacted) Corch.

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                • I think Derek and Corch need their own playpen. Or maybe a duel. lol

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  I know people are likely tired of the confrontations here in the playpen (and elsewhere), but I’m also tired of seeing him get away with stuff like this. It’s not right. He did the same thing to me a couple of months back. He flies off the handle based on a poor understanding of what is said, and uses that as an impetus to bully.

                  The funny thing is, if you break it down, I’m fairly certain Derek and I have almost all of the same kinds of beliefs. I just abhor the kinds of Alinsky-like tactics he uses.

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                • It’s the “and elsewhere” that had better stop.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  No Derek, I’m someone who doesn’t fly off the handle with assumptions based on a poor understanding of what someone said because my ideology blinds me to any kind of objective understanding of the world around me.

                  But sure, in your world that means I’m a [name calling redacted]. In my world it just means I try to not be like you.

                  The way you behave, you bulldoze into situations already knowing who everyone is and what everything means based on a certain set of rules. The way I behave, I know I know nothing and let the people and things tell me over time who and what they are.

                  You really are fascinating.

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                • Otto

                  Corch and Derek are both caricatures of the ideologies which they represent which many of us sick of both which in a way makes both of kind of the same.

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                • Derek

                  If you’d paid attention, you’d know I distrust ALL ideologies.

                  The left, if they got everything they wanted, would leave us all poor. The right, if they got everything they wanted would result in 5 rich feudal lords and the rest of us poor. I’ve said on this forum: ideology is an intellectual trap.

                  I think all policy should be tied to the realities of the day, not an ideology.

                  For someone on the right, curing every ill comes down to:
                  cutting taxes or regulations or denying there is an ill in the first place.

                  For someone the left, there always some governmental program to cure any ill, real or perceived.

                  That I express more hostility to the right here is for a very good reason.

                  No one here promotes leftist ideology.

                  None. If there were, believe me I’d be equal opportunity.

                  After all how many people accuse leftists of being for NIL rights? It may be true. Don’t care. I am against NIL rights.

                  I make my decisions on facts and reality, not a prefabricated framework.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  Curious… what ideology do I represent?

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                • Derek

                  An anti-factual one.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  There you go again.

                  You literally can’t argue against the data (stats) that now has swung away from your preferred narrative, so you resort to the ad hominem.

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                • Derek

                  The fact that I didn’t respond yesterday was literally because the host had literally stated literally hundreds of times that stats were playpen and you literally starting arguing “data” as if that were literally different and so i literally respected the house rules because I literally thought it appropriate and you literally take that to mean that I literally could not rebut your literal bullshit, literally?

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

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          • PTC DAWG

            Correct, folks just don’t understand, it’s you’re blog…good luck going forward..

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  4. spur21

    I hope I haven’t been guilty of stepping over the line. That being said I welcome the changes and look forward to a much more civilized blog.

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  5. Senator, you have had the patience of Job with many here who won’t follow your house rules. I can tell you one thing we all have in common … we love Georgia and our Dawgs.

    Men (and I assume some women), don’t respond with anything you wouldn’t say to their face out of fear of getting a tooth knocked out or of having your mother wash your mouth out with soap (#FTMF not withstanding).

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  6. 964dawg

    It is truly a sign of the times. I’ve stopped reading comments on any sports stories because most devolve into what I call braying with jackasses, whether it’s about the pandemic or something actually sports related.

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  7. Timphd

    Thanks.

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  8. sniffer

    Timely move, Senator. As we move farther into 2020 and fall arrives, our frustration will only increase, in my view. Folks, college football ain’t happening. There is no chance of any discernible, credible season. Worst case, the season never gets off the ground and best case is some schools play 7-8 games in total.
    My fear three months ago was that we would win a NC and have the dreaded asterisk attached. That was a pipe dream, clearly. We, nor anyone else is winning anything this year. IMO.

    I love this place and want to hear what everyone has to say. We can get along but we have to choose that path.

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    • I see no way to get through a 10 game schedule normally. I stick by my idea that we should have shot for a handful of exhibition games just so players could get some time, the NFL could get some tape, to help move the season along.. the draft along. Each team could play 3 or 4 rivalry games. Would have been very exciting and very watched TV. Instead it was an attempt at normalcy…. conference only championship playoffs bowls and it’s impossible

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  9. ApalachDawg aux Bruxelles

    As an avid reader of your blog, i welcome the change. It hasn’t been as fun to read because it feels like by the 5th comment, we are debating covid, trump, etc on a topic that was about jamie newman or dan mullet.
    Merci monsieur!

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  10. Godawg

    Senator, please know we love your blog and truly appreciate the time and effort you put into it. 🙂

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  11. Salty Dawg

    Thank you, Senator. You have had more patience than I would. Whenever I see certain monikers, I just keep on scrolling. It’s not worth my time. You need to do what’s best for you and the blog, and I’m here for it!

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  12. bulldogbry

    I’m not a regular reader of the comments section and I still struggle to distinguish the commentators from one another (although the comments on the playpen are occasionally a source of amusement). Senator, you do whatever you have to do in order to keep your part going. And thank you.

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  13. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    Sounds good! If something isn’t fun it’s not worth doing (which follows from a similar saying that if you do what you love you’ll never work a day in your life). Hopefully this will make it fun again.

    Optimistically, I do believe we’ll have football, so that will likely help as well.

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    • Geezus

      That’s a tricky line, as I’ve also seen where if you try to monetize the things you love, you start to lose the love for those things. Personally, I try to shoot for a job that I don’t mind doing.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        I’ve had jobs I don’t mind doing (most of my jobs in my civilian life) and I’ve had jobs that I’m extremely passionate about (one of my civilian jobs and my time in the Marine Corps).

        The jobs I don’t mind doing were like an extremely slow death of my soul. I want to have passion for what I do. If I can have that, that is the goal.

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  14. NotMyCrossToBear

    Thank you.

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  15. Thanks for all you do. By all means do whatever you have to in order to make continued blogging worth your while.

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  16. Uglydawg.

    Just when I was about to post, “Blutarsky has lost control of GTP comments”.
    Nice move, but wouldn’t it have been easier to just blame Mike Bobo?
    I had actually slowed down my visiting and commenting on GTP recently because the political snark and resulting downward spiral of comments was depressing.
    THANK YOU, SIR!

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    • Just when I was about to post, “Blutarsky has lost control of GTP comments”.

      To be honest, I thought about writing that myself. 😉

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    • Will (the other one)

      As anyone with a remedial understanding of chaos theory knows, if Richt had fired WillieMart a few seasons earlier, none of this would be happening right now.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        Imagine if he fired Willy after a mostly terrible 2006 season and hired Kirby in 2007?

        I’m calling it: we win the national title that year because there’s no way we lose to Sakerlina at home.

        Remember, all the flack Richt took and still takes in wanting to make Cam Newton pales in comparison to making Kirby a Running Backs Coach.

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  17. Geezus

    Sounds good to me.

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  18. Sounds fine with me. I thought one already had a have a wordpress sign-on email in order to post.

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  19. Where do I copy and paste my cherry picked COVID stats now? 😉

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  20. Thank you, Senator. I love your blog and usually enjoy the comments. With a couple of exceptions, I like the fact that I can have a civil, non-personal argument with people who are clearly wrong. ; )

    While it may not have been your intention, you have created a community here, which is a good thing. I think we need more communities and fewer tribes.

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  21. Mary Kate Danaher

    Bravo, Senator.

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  22. SpellDawg

    I’ve started several forums and blogs over the last two decades, my greatest success was attracting hordes of broken-English comment spammers. I longed for traction like yours, but I doubt I could have suffered the reality of what comes with it very well for very long. Footballs ain’t heavy, this football blog probably feels like a shit ton some days. Thanks for wearing the crown Bluto!

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  23. PTC DAWG

    Btw, my email has always been legit…

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  24. FlyingPeakDawg

    Long time contributors have watched your evolution of trying to maintain a sense of decorum. While we watched you invite all into your home you surprisingly tolerated boorish behavior from a few. You went so far as to develop the Playpen to manage this…the equivalent of “take it outside please”. Few of us would have chosen to handle it that way but we admire your principles. I would only suggest you take the route of some talk radio shows…hang up on the extreme commenter. Losing the audience of a few will likely let you grow more.

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    • I thought a few of us had for real screwed it up for all of us yesterday. I’d say we’re getting off light.

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      • DCBasham

        Well, the Senator’s hand was pretty much forced by a few folks (such as Corch and Derek), who have turned the comments into a real sh*t show. I wish the Senator would go even further and limit it to one comment per person per post. Step up to the mike, say your piece, then move along.

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  25. ASEF

    It’s unfortunately how blog comments/social media tend to go. 2% of the posters can drive 90% of the discourse. Just be outrageous/loud enough to force a response. And away we go.

    Reasonable exchange gets drowned out.

    So thank you.

    You’re going to get accused of political bias, but you knew that already.

    Your blog, your house, your rules

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  26. jt10mc (the other one)

    Senator…this is the BEST blog about Georgia Football and also the other areas you dabble in. I appreciate this blog and what you do for us by providing a great place to read and sometimes respond about sports in general. Thank you.

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  27. TMCDAWG

    First time committing on the PEN. The reason I don’t say anything on the treads is I don’t want to affect anybody. I’ve like to be known as Mr. nice guy

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  28. Reality being, peeps are gonna’ be who they are, no matter the penalty…voicing your opinion/choice/views is different from attacking someone in a friggin’ comment section…understanding you enjoy the comments (somewhat) good luck with being Deputy Dawg on his last good nerve…..

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  29. Billy O

    Long time reader here! I have enjoyed this blog immensely. I hope it continues with less rancor! Thanks for all you do!!

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  30. Debby Balcer

    Thank you. I was naive enough when I joined to give my real name and I also provided a real email. Hopefully this move makes your life easier and then the comments more enjoyable.

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  31. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    I brought up this new Gallup poll yesterday on the the post about the surprising poll of “CFB fans” saying they want the season delayed or cancelled, and wondered what y’all would make of it.

    Does anything here surprise y’all? I originally saw the belief from those who are Democrats that there is some or even significant bias in the media could be the start of some kind of awakening. However, the more I thought about that, and about how if some here are representative of this new breed of Far Leftist Democrat, I began to wonder if they see the relatively small piece of the media pie owned by Fox News, The Wall Street Journal, and the Daily News as all the bias they see? Over the last fifteen years it’s been funny to see a lot of my friends key on those entities while ignoring the other 90% of the media that leans heavily in the other direction. So I wonder if self-identified Democrats have some modicum of introspection or if they’re like the Republicans who rail against the liberal media, but from the other side?

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/316574/news-media-viewed-biased-crucial-democracy.aspx

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    • ASEF

      The media is a full bandwidth spectrum. If you choose to focus on the far ends of it, you can turn “the media” into whatever monolith you choose.

      The NYT is to the far right a honking goose of socialism. To the far left? A corporate shill for neoliberalism.

      OAN meets the market with an audience of people who think Fox News isn’t conservative enough. Mother Jones meets the market with an audience who thinks the NYT isn’t liberal enough.

      It’s the Grand Canyon analogy. The South Rim isn’t the Grand Canyon. The North Rim isn’t the Grand Canyon. Rafting the rapids isn’t the Grand Canyon. A helicopter fly-over isn’t the Grand Canyon.

      They all are. And we would sound pretty silly if we just went to the North Rim and then knowingly act like we had walked every inch of it and could definitely render a verdict on it.

      There is center-liberal media. Center-conservative. Far right, far left, everything in between.

      It’s the Golden Age of Confirmation Bias. Whatever you want to believe, you’ll find plenty of evidence for it. Hence all the conspiracy nonsense floating around.

      This is why college education, about how to filter information and identify agendas and bias, is pretty damn important. And a big reason certain chunks of the media consistently attack it.

      Those processes are not inherently liberal. The most conservative professor I ever had – Army vet, Russian expert, served in the Army’s post in Moscow prior to establishing an Embassy there, was one of the guys the Pentagon called to translate the intercepts between the Kremlin and the pilot who shit down Korean Air 007 – vehemently argued in class that those skills were the bedrock of Western Civ – its ethics, epistemologies, philosophies of government, state, and individual rights. The works.

      He was right. To use a programming analogy, garbage in, garbage out.

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      • HirsuteDawg

        “This is why college education, about how to filter information and identify agendas and bias, is pretty damn important.” Damn, skippy! However a college education doesn’t always work. Have two relatives with engineering degrees share information that on it’s face was farce and unbelievable – but they took it as gospel. We have to develop critical thinking skills, especially about the “news” we consume.

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        • ASEF

          That’s honestly what unnerves me the most about the historical moment. The more educated just tend to be more efficient at confirmation bias. We’ve been trained how to gather information but not how to evaluate it.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          Leftists that run academia and the media do no like to teach critical thinking skills, because if someone can think critically they would never believe nonsense like, “Words are violence,” or allow something as stupid as, “Person with a cervix,” to be printed.

          The dumbing down of America has long been planned, and it’s shocking to realize it wasn’t the people on the right who did it.

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          • ASEF

            lol.

            Yeah, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Alex Jones guided their audiences to brilliance.

            Gee. The very people telling their audiences to run away from any source of information guided by critical thought.

            You’re need to blame everything on the left blinds you. And seems conspicuously devoid of critical thinking.

            Yes, the Far Left has warts and dangers. So does the Far Right. The danger is in the FAR.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

              When the Far Right control education and academia in the way the Far Left does, and literally mold the way children and young adults think, then I will worry about them as much as you seem to do.

              They’re rightfully marginalized. The Far Left are not. That’s the reality of the situation. I choose to deal in reality and not what I would prefer it to be.

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              • Derek

                Who runs for the state and local boards of education?

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              • ASEF

                “Rightfully marginalized?”

                So what do you make of Project Lincoln, a group of centrist Republicans who think the Far Right has taken over the Republican Party so completely that the entire apparatus has to be dismantled? Republicans, running ads against a Republican President and every vulnerable Republican Senator?

                Or Republicans Voting Against Trump? Who are pushing the same line of thought?

                They seem to disagree with you and have a ton of support from fellow conservatives.

                The Far Left Controls Academia has been a Rush talking point for so long people no longer hold it up to objective scrutiny. It’s kind of laughable when you spend time in public schools as a volunteer.

                A majority of the teachers in my kids’s schools were conservative. A majority of the admins I worked with ranged from center-right to center-left. I never met a single one of them who qualified as a Bernie-ite.

                Are there those in education? Sure. Just like there was my cousin “Jim,” assistant principal and honorary KKK member. Seriously, he admitted he didn’t really like or trust the brown kids on his baseball team. And admitted that was the reason why he angled for a rural, mostly all-white school. Wouldn’t have to deal with minorities.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  Anyone who thinks Trump is “Far Right” is not to be taken seriously, and so I do not take you seriously.

                  Trump is a populist buffoon, but the guy has a fucking Jewish daughter, Jewish son in law, and Jewish grandkids. What’s “Far Right” about that, ASEF?

                  Trump was also for gay marriage before any prominent Democrat politician. Certainly decades before Obama came out for it only because he safely won a second election. What’s “Far Right” about that.

                  As I said above, you guys really have to get a handle on exactly what kind of boogeyman Trump happens to be. “Far Right” is by far the most ridiculous one of all.

                  The FBI statistics show there are less than 10K people who can be identified (not self-identify, but are identified by authorities) as KKK or White Supremacists or Nationalists. They are marginalized. Rightfully. They are not growing, they are losing. Rightfully.

                  On the other end, there are far more estimates of people who are are identified with Antifa, and as much of the dangerous boogeyman you think the repugnant KKK and White Supremacists or Nationalists are, they’re not the ones out there burning down cities right now. They’re not the ones who have media and politicians lying about how dangerous they actually are.

                  Well, that’s not true. The media and Democrats very much overestimate the dangerousness of one group while continuing to lie, even in the face of evidence we can actually see, about the dangerousness of the other.

                  FFS, dude. You live in a fucking bubble.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  I apologize for the strong language. It wasn’t necessary.

                  But seriously, you guys who hate Trump really need to stop lying about who Trump is because all you’re doing to the people who are undecided about Trump is creating more voters for Trump.

                  I am absolutely serious about this. I don’t like Trump, but I use the actual reasons Trump gives me to not like him.

                  The Russian conspiracy hoax was obviously a lie from the get go, and yet so many of y’all bought into it with all of your hearts and soul that it became a huge part of your identity.

                  You all vacillate so quickly between “Trump is a fascist dictator bent on domination” and “Trump is an idiot moron who has to be spoon-fed information” so much I can’t believe y’all don’t have whiplash.

                  I’m strong enough where your ridiculousness is not going to have me voting Trump. I’m just not going to vote.

                  But I’m telling you ASEF and Derek and any others, all you’re doing is shouting in an echo chamber and for the people who see just how insane and crazy y’all are, all you’re going to do is convince them to vote Trump.

                  Take my warning for what it is and just moderate yourselves. If you don’t, you’re going to wake up on the first Wednesday in November to four more years of all this.

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                • Hell its convincing me to vote for trump.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  Again, I apologize for the language. There was no cause for that. But dude. With all sincerity here, because like with Derek I’m fairly certain there are a great many things you and I probably agree on in life and not just the Dawgs, but man… Trump is not a threat to much of anything other than his own re-election efforts. The amount of vitriol you and so many others have for him is doing the opposite of what you say you want, and at this point, 3 and half years later, I have to wonder if you actually want it that way. That you want another 4 years of Trump so you can continue to be filled with this righteous anger because it gives you purpose and clarity and whatever else you think it gives you.

                  For the life of me I cannot understand how the hatred of this one man and not just that, but the hatred of everyone who voted for him or who are you political opposites or whatever, I can’t understand how you think this will change people’s minds. I don’t get it. I don’t. Trump won and y’all went crazy. Instead of moving back to center, you went further Left. Now there’s no place for people like me. Instead of letting Trump ruin himself, you bought into and continue to buy into every obvious lie conspiracy theory that has done nothing but strengthen his base and possibly added more voters to his side.

                  I didn’t understand this kind of hate when it was social conservatives and the Far Right, and I understand it even less now that it’s progressives and the Far Left. I am honestly at my wits end here, because it all makes no sense. Trump, that clown… that buffoon, he makes more sense to me than y’all do. I get why a malignant narcissist is a malignant narcissist. It’s his nature.

                  I dunno. I just don’t know. I wish you peace and happiness. I don’t think you’ll find it anytime soon, but I wish it for you anyway. Maybe the one great thing from the changes is we never have to hear the name Trump here anymore. We can only hope.

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                • ASEF

                  Trump’s silver linings:

                  DHS will go bye-bye.

                  People understand how much power a President wields, and how much that power can be used for better or worse.

                  We’ve gone from a country who thinks it runs on auto-pilot and that style matters more than competence to a country that badly wants a boring, competent, centrist in the White House. With centrist Republicans defecting from Trump, this year’s D candidate isn’t relying on trying to max out his votes on the Far Left. Centrism won the Democratic Primary, and centrism has caught Trump flat footed. Donald’s entire politics comes down to, “My CRAZY is less dangerous than their crazy! And a lot more fun!” And had Bernie prevailed – versus getting wiped out – Trump would have a much better shot. But Bernie face-planted, and then Covid stripped Trump of his bluster. Trump still might win, but his odds keep going down.

                  I’m a conservative. The Republican Party left me over a decade ago, when it became apparent that the things that lead me to being a conservative were no longer popular within the party. That purity politics process has only accelerated.

                  I’m voting, and I’m voting for Biden. I can’t look in the mirror and say I oppose the man and then just not vote. I’m voting for Cal Cunningham, a moderate Democrat and veteran. I’m voting for Moe Davis, moderate Democrat, veteran and former Guantanamo Bay prosecutor.

                  My vote filter is pretty simple:

                  What’s the person’s demonstrated character?
                  How close to the political middle are they?
                  Are they reasonably intelligent and make their own decisions?

                  Nothing party about it. I vote for the person, and I vote for pragmatic centrism. The best counter to the Far Left at this moment in time is the Center Left winning elections.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  You say his odds keep going down, and I see the opposite. Trump hate is not enough to win an election. Trump hate is not enough to convince people to not vote for him. And Trump hate and believing every single obvious lie narrative run by the media and the Democrats about Trump continues to drive sympathy to a man who, if just left alone to his own devices, would have no chance of winning re-election.

                  He’s not a Russian asset. He’s not a “traitor.” He’s not in Putin’s pocket. He’s none of these things. He’s a malignant narcissist and that’s pretty much it.

                  I see the polls as more of the same from 2016. People who will vote for Trump are lying and saying they’re going to vote for Biden, just like they did in 2016. It’s not that they’re saying they’re undecided. They’re lying. And I think when and if Biden debates and more people see his diminished capacity, that’ll be all she wrote.

                  The Democrats could’ve avoided all of this. They could’ve left Trump alone to sink himself, but instead they threw a 4-year hissy fit. You say the only way to save things is to bring it back to the center? My party went so far to the Left it’s fundamentally been changed. Now they support and lie about violent terrorists. They’re insane. I see no way out. I see no way back. Not with the current people running the party and the current people elected to office.

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                • This is correct. And all the Dems had to do is put in a normal, functioning moderate and the election would be a lock. They have twice mow stepped on their on dick, but then blame all the racists for doing it. Both elections were handed to them.

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                • You’re a conservative that will vote for biden. Dude, that’s my likely last exchange with young. Corch got it right with yall.

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                • ASEF

                  Chuck, the theme of this election is conservatives voting against Trump and for Biden. They’re everywhere. Lifelong Republicans, never voted for a Democrat in their lives, voting for Biden. I’m hardly the only one.

                  Check out Project Lincoln. Check out Republicans Voting Against Trump. These are well-funded, highly visible efforts generating the support of millions.

                  And Corch, a malignant narcissist does not deserve the office of the Presidency. It’s not the Democrats job to put up a candidate so compelling that you could gladly vote against the malignant narcissist. It’s our job to get the malignant narcissist out of office. We’re a country of self-rule. Biden does not assert he is above the law. If nothing else, that makes him a superior choice to Trump.

                  And for the record, Dylan Roof single-handed killed 9 people – way more people than the entire “Antifa” movement, ever. I don’t know what bubble you’re living in to think “Antifa” is more of a threat than people committed to subverting the US Constitution and who have killed hundreds of Americans over the past 13 years. It’s become so common you don’t even register it? I don’t know.

                  The riots were wrong. Full stop. But show me video or even pictures of American cities “burning down.” You can’t. Because that rhetoric is entirely out of scale with the reality. There’s a reason Fox News got caught rerunning old tape as “live” and photoshopping pictures of rioters. They ran out of material.

                  The entire Trump strategy is to scare people into voting for him. I’m not falling for it. He and his administration have been caught in way too many lies, and their “pitch” on that front is just at odds with credible sources on the actual scenes.

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            • The impact of rush hannity and Alex is a small percentage of the impact of the educational system. Rush and hannity have had pretty major audience shares but it’s in a medium that doesn’t really get much of the nation anyway. Sure rush had one of the biggest talk radio shows ever but he still was only reaching a very small percentage of the population.

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              • ASEF

                Respectfully but completely disagree

                College kids resist authority figures like nobody’s business. The idea that they suddenly become pliant dopes in the presence of Evil Leftist Professor is a flat out myth. If I attempted anything remotely political in my community college classes, I lost half my audience right then and there if I didn’t try to balance things out. I couldn’t have swayed their political opinions in my 150 minutes a week no matter how hard I tried. More to the point, the ones who did try – both sides – just lost their influence all the faster. Once the kids realized I was preaching process (how to evaluate information) rather than result (what to think), they opened up. Because they understood I was leaving the decision up to them. They had to find their own right or wrong. Finding that and putting it on a firm foundation – not just because someone told them so – is the foundation that my highly conservative history professor was talking about.

                Contrast that with mom or dad watching 10 or more hours of right wing programming a week, growing up with it. Parents influenced, then influencing their kids. Or left wing programming for that matter. Their church and youth groups.

                Those weighs exactly 1,000,000 times more than whatever politics they are running into in a classroom.

                Blaming education and educators in my experience is almost always a cop-out.

                And for the record, I taught as an adjunct for a few hundred dollars per course as a part of giving back. My primary income has always been sales.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

                  Using your own logic, most people in America are center-left, center, and center-right. Meaning the parents of college kids would tend to be middle of the road. Why better way to stick it to boring mom and dad than in parroting the authoritarian Far Leftist nonsense you learn in school?

                  Especially because it provides you with the moral superiority and surety you never had over your parents. Now you can go home and tell your family how racist, bigoted, transphobic, misogynistic, and any other -ist you’ve been taught they are.

                  How else can you explain why the vast majority of all these violent Antifa turds are middle class white kids rebelling against how they were raised?

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                • ASEF

                  That wasn’t “my logic.” It’s “my experience.”

                  My wife and her mom are far apart politically. It’s actually an irritant to their relationship, so they just don’t do politics. My wife’s politics come from her values, which came from her mom and her church. As adults, they’ve been influenced politically by different means. One never made it past 10th grade and believes in conspiracy theories. One has a MA in accounting and is horrified by that. So am I. We remind ourselves that she’s been a great mom and taught her daughter good values. We focus on that.

                  If a kid is acting out against their parents through their politics, then that’s a family issue – same with drugs or any of the other issues that lead kids to revolt. We don’t blame schools when kids smoke pot to get back at an uber-controlling mother. Not sure why we would when they pick a different mode of rebellion.

                  My 15 year old daughter’s politics are veering left – in part because she’s been in a small Christian private school where the politics veer decidedly right. She’s tired of being told what to think, which they’re not supposed to be doing but are doing anyway. We’ve transferred her (not because of that), but the point is that with both my kids, their schools to date have not had much impact on their politics, and to the extent they have, it’s pushed them in the opposite direction.

                  “The other side is brainwashed” is just a cop-out, and the schools are convenient foil on that front for the right-wing hot-air machine.

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      • Mick Jagger

        Did you mean “shot” down the plane?

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    • Grafton

      It is my opinion that the news media isn’t the problem its the symptom. The majority of our population lack something extremely important and that is critical thinking. We are genetically geared towards tribalism. We chose a team, (religion, sports, politics etc.) often too early in life to know if that team is even beneficial to our well-being. Then we surround ourselves with confirmation bias, because lets admit it, its much more comfortable. The ones who push this content on people know this, and they exploit the hell out of it for their own financial gain. And we as a society let them because as a whole, we are mentally lazy.

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    • Dawgflan

      A few thoughts from a “Compassionate Conservative” Republican turned anti-hawk Libertarian turned “Never Trump” Republican primary voter turned reluctant Clinton voter turned de facto Democrat:

      The Murdoch slice is relatively small in quantity but not in consumption. Fox News doubles the ratings of CNN and MSNBC combined.
      Fox News’ near monopoly on the far-right, even with OAN catering to alt-right, have made it much more effective political tool/apparatus and spreader of talking points and consensus than the incredibly fractured left.
      I started watching CNN for the first time in 10+ years in light of COVID-19 and was indeed taken aback by how bold they had become in their anti-Trump leanings, and much less centrist than what I remembered. I am conflicted on whether this means they are taking a long-term political stance as advocating for the far-left, or if they are simply revealing their disgust and exasperation with an un-principled President being protected and enabled by what has become a win at all costs un-principled Party.
      I’ve only watched snippets of MSNBC, but see them as a weak attempt to replicate the zeal of Fox News but for the far-left.
      From Upton Sinclair to Henry Grady, journalism never been free of bias, and most journalists see their profession as an outlet for their passion of spreading ideals and advocating for change using facts, and more importantly/critically how those facts/data points/stats are interpreted. Exposing corruption, advocating for the oppressed, addressing systemic issues, resisting tyranny, etc. have always been the role of a free press. I think we live in an interesting time where there is such polarization concerning how to achieve those roles.

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      • I used to watch CNN and MSNBC to get different news sources. Actually even liked Rachel Maddow from time to time, but after the trump election most of the networks became so vehemently ridiculously over the top left and anti trump I couldn’t take it much anymore. Now I have a select few talking heads I may listen to, and watch local news for local news if I catch it.

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        • Dawgflan

          I definitely avoid all the talking heads, but even the bias in standard news reporting is more visible than ever.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

        The difference is, you’re just talking about a small slice of all consumed media. Yes, cable news is cable news, but CNN and MSNBC combined almost do as much as Fox News, so the reach isn’t as nefarious as you would believe.

        Then there’s every bit of old media print and online new media, which is so vastly swung for the Far Left as to not even be measurable. For every The Daily Caller or The Federalist there tens and hundreds of websites that get far more traffic on the Far Left. Slate. Salon. BuzzFeed. The Daily Beast. Effing Vox.com.

        And that doesn’t also include the sports sites that almost all espouse Far Left views and have driven away even boring liberals like me. ESPN. Pro Football Talk. Hardball Talk (Craig Calcaterra is one of the least tolerant Far Leftist a-hole working in sports today… or not working as he just got let go). All of NBC Sports. SI.com. CBS Sports. Yeah, there’s Bar Stool and now OutKick, but that’s it. There are far more sports sites that push a Leftist agenda.

        That doesn’t include all the social media sites which are all controlled by Leftists with an authoritarian bent.

        And that doesn’t also include what used to be fairly rote and nominal pop culture websites like Collider or Uproxx or DenGeek or SlashFilm or AV Club, which all now almost exclusively review movies and television shows based on their perceived “good” (aka Far Left) or “bad” aka (liberal, moderate, or conversatiive) political content. And that then effects the Rotten Tomato score of the show or movie (as RT aggregates all these critics) which can effect box office or ratings. I mean, all of them gave Batwoman good reviews. Now I know there were toxic fans who hated the show, but the show itself was terrible. I enjoyed the first three Arrowverse shows, but Supergirl and Batwoman only seem to exist to promote Leftist ideology, which makes the characters one-dimensional and the stories boring. Batwoman was even worse than that. It is subjectively a bad show, poorly acted, it looks cheap, and the characters never have more motivation than to be a positive Leftist symbol. That’s what passes as writing in Hollywood now.

        Dude, as someone who is a liberal, I see it pretty much everywhere, because the narratives and the talking points have moved so far beyond normal liberalism that it’s noticeable to me. I can only imagine what it’s like to be a true conservative and to have had to deal with this for much longer. I honestly feel bad I didn’t notice it until even me, as a liberal, no longer felt welcome to holding what I still consider common sense beliefs.

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  32. Otto

    As someone who has been involved in local, and national automotive social media groups starting with forums and now Facebook groups, I am amazed you keep this place as on topic as it is when you’re the only admin. I don’t know how wordpress works but if a couple of regular posters which aren’t trouble makers could step and help out as moderators, it could take stress off of you. Again love blog hope you keep it up.

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  33. All in. I’m sorry that this is necessary, but there are a lot more draconian methods you could have opted for. I am willing to post my email right here in the comments, if it will preserve this space.

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  34. 3rdandGrantham

    The comment section of this site is basically a microcosm of America in general these days – nonstop bickering and posturing about who is morally superior to who. You would think that a pandemic that has killed 150k+ people across all spectrums would actually bring everyone together of all stripes – be it political, racial, religious, or otherwise – yet instead the opposite has occurred.

    In my 10+ years here, this is the least amount I’ve commented, and I probably will go away for good in due time, to be honest, as I don’t have the time or patience to be bothered by negative types who almost certainly have achieved little in their lives (and hence are aiming to bring others down with them).

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    • Otto

      Agreed with much of this. I came on here to blame Bobo not debate politics (that is some snark), which isn’t to say the Senator is off topic as politics is taking over College Football rather due to the virus or the NCAA’s legal battles. I appreciate the updates but it isn’t something I will comment much on.

      The bickering is a microcosm of society. I hope that the virus goes away, politics isn’t so divisive and we can get back to discussing schedules, play calling, and roster management. Until then I will check in each morning.

      If I go away it will likely be due to expanded playoffs, and NCAA rules favoring offense and bubble wrapping players.

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      • Junkyardawg41

        I agree with you both. Blurb made a comment a few days ago that I have had on my mind in reference to all thing in our country. Opinions on all topics have become binary. Things like you either want to pay players or not pay players. No middle ground and no power of and. The idea that you can want financial reforms that benefit players (NLI) AND not believe players should be paid as employees. The current environment tries to force one into an either or camp. I feel blessed that there are still honest Dawg fans who believe in AND —- which is why I continue to come here.

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        • ASEF

          It’s standard operating procedure for opinion media – reduce everything to a binary, make your preferred option the Ideal and pretend the only other option is an Existential Threat. This is how you get people physically assaulting employees for asking them to wear masks.

          We should really teach rhetoric more. Understanding how people are attempting to persuade/manipulate your perspective is the first and biggest step in neutralizing it.

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        • Nuance is dead, But I think being able to maintain 2 ideas about one subject is vitally important to existence. I can say that I agreed with trump’s direction on nato for example, and still think that his tweets are dumb and unnecessary. I can like one thing and dislike another from 1 president. That concept has been utterly stripped away and removed. One side would now label me a trump lover. Another side would not agree that maybe the president shouldn’t tweet 25 times a day for fear of weakness. I guess that’s why I have always been an independent.

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          • ASEF

            You and I agree on some things and disagree on some things. Everyone wants to reduce it to Conservative or Progressive, but those labels only purely fit caricatures and carefully cultivated media personalities.

            Nuance requires listening, and that’s not something we as a culture emphasize and value. Too passive.

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    • Derek

      That wasn’t by accident.

      https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/trumps-war-on-blue-states-is-worse-than-previously-thought.html

      There was an attempt to “pwn the libs” and show red states as thriving and unaffected.

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  35. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  36. Dawgflan

    Thanks Senator. Everyone can say what they want, but no one owes anyone a platform to distribute or amplify speech. Be it Twitter or GTP.

    I try to be open-minded, which is one of the reasons I really like the GTP football comment sections. I had so many conflicting emotions and opinions on Richt in his later years of HC, and certainly in the wake of his firing. Reading the comments here let me put words to some of those emotions, and seeing differing opinions hashed out helped me come to my own perspective. The same goes for so many aspects of this school and sport that I love.

    The place I end up with most topics UGA football (Richt, Kirby, Manball, Havoc, AD, Fan-Friendly, NIL) is that about half of the comments on both extremes are simply delusional, unhelpful or spiteful. Still, the remaining middle, across a fairly wide spectrum, tend to make valid points. And it helps me form a non-dualistic view of each matter.

    To adapt the Seth quote you shared earlier in the week – I like manball when it works, and like tempo equally well when it works. It is not an either/or proposition, but a both/and environment. Balancing the inherent tensions in different tactics requires discernment, wisdom, and a bit of luck, hence our united hope that Kirby/UGA can figure out what is best for each team and in each circumstance.

    I would say the same goes for politics, religion, public health and all those subjective Playpen things we humans have to grapple with. Politics needs both collective effort and government restraint, religion needs both faith and self-criticism, public health needs both risk-management and risk-acceptance.

    Unfortunately, we (well most of us :-), haha ) have proven to be much more open to self-critique and changing attitudes when it comes to UGA football than Playpen topics. We can have nuanced views on spike v. hurry-up, fake v. punt, but I guess it is a bridge too far for many to accept a nuanced non-dualistic both/and perspective when our personal behaviors, finances, and cultural identities are at stake. Instead of both/and it is all too often “only my set of facts/data/opinions are valid and if you disagree you are evil/fool/coward.” Sadly, many don’t even seem to be united in a hope for better approaches, better outcomes, and a better humanity.

    All to say that it’s not you Senator, it’s us.

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  37. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  39. Months ago I asked several “visible” vets here about howTrump being a draft dodger colored their view of him and I got “what he did was a disgrace but if he fucks with libitards he’s ok by me”. I really reduced my participation in the playpen at that time. That’s all I got.

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    • Grafton

      This vet thinks hes a disgusting traitor.

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    • Don in Mar-a-Lago

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    • I’m a vet, I think I remember that conversation , and that was clearly not my response. That’s not even the vibe I remember from that

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    • RangerRuss

      I expected Trump to to dismantle the culture of corruption and collusion amongst the republicans, dimocrats, un-elected entrenched bureaucracy, lobbyists and the Marxist controlled media and academia. I didn’t see any Medal of Honor earners lining up, so that philandering, blustering draft dodger was it. Say what you want about Trump, but the man is willing to work and understands the maddening, useless regulations emanating from the drones in DC that do nothing to promote real safety and hinder prosperity and efficiency. I’m hoping he’ll put an end to the two-tiered system of justice where the political class gets a pass while the rest of us are subject to arbitrary and unfair laws.
      Ya’ll go on and keep voting for the same crowd that promises something for nothing and doesn’t allow industrious folks to keep the majority of what they worked hard for. The dimocrats are beholden to those whose agenda has been on display for a few months now. If you like boarded up store fronts, long lines for dwindling essentials and thugs owning the streets? Keep voting D and for RINOs. That smack in the mouth this country has coming to it will be a real surprise to those of you who have lived easy. It ain’t gonna be pretty.

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      • Democrat’s, marxists, thugs. . tell em Ranger.What unadulterated bullshit.

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        • RangerRuss

          I don’t expect most folks to agree with me about the threat to the Republic posed by the forces of envy, greed and sloth. Most of us have lived a life of relative ease from the labors of hard men that came before us. I appreciate what I was bequeathed by those men and volunteered to carry on that tradition. But you go on and be you. I’l stand beside you and fight for your right to be wrong. You’ve earned that. You have my respect.

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      • Derek

        A little treason is a fair trade off, right?

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      • Don in Mar-a-Lago

        Keep up the good work because many people are saying

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

          If we read it on twitter by people who clearly have no mental imbalances at all, it MUST BE TRUE!

          Seriously, y’all really need to get together and decide once and for all:

          Is Donald Trump a corrupt evil genius fascist looking to take over and control the country?

          or

          Is Donald Trump a corrupt moron incapable of tying his own shoes?

          He can’t be both.

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          • RangerRuss

            I used to spar with one of Holyfield’s sparring partner. The guy literally beat the snot out of me while taking it easy on me. I’d always come back for more. Then we’d go have some beers and tequila and I’d wind up getting the shit kicked out of me again in the parking lot. But I enjoyed fighting with that guy because he was a Man and not some sniveling little whiner.

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          • Don in Mar-a-Lago

            I take orders from Putin. Only Putin. We’re not trying to hide it.

            My motto is don’t ever make the Vlad mad.

            But that doesn’t stop me from striking my favorite pose sometimes

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

              Yeah, so… you’re literally just a troll with nothing important to say or an original thought to share. Got it. Thanks. Much appreciated. This will save me time in the future.

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              • Don largo is why I’m happy for registered accounts. Its likely Derek. At least people will have to work for their sock puppets

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                • Don in Mar-a-Lago

                  Don Largo can’t wait to register.
                  Derek is not Don Largo. Derek probably doesn’t even wish to be Don Largo because based on Don Largo’s readings of Derek, Derek seems to be pretty happy 😃 being himself.

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  40. 123fakest

    Here’s a tip:
    Stop blogging about politics in sports.
    Let’s get back to UGA football and what the team is capable of doing.

    It’s your blog, and one that I have truly enjoyed over the years, but the political blog posts invite this sort of childish behavior.

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    • Thanks for your input. (No snark intended.)

      Like it or not, politics affects sports. In 2020, politics affects sports a lot. There’s no way to get around it.

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    • ASEF

      Respectfully disagree.

      The reason the Playpen exists: threads in football would get hijacked by someone bringing something political from Breitbart or Mother Jones or whatever – and the comment section would be off to the races.

      People would stoke the same fires for days across multiple threads, an endless (and pointless) competition of one-upmanship and last-wordism.

      This stuff comes here. And not because the Senator puts out the Political Harangue Bat Signal.

      The comment section was built with the premise that people would be adults and make responsible decisions. Self policing.

      Should have worked.

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      • 123fakest

        People can’t even return their shopping buggy to the stall. They’re definitely not going to self police themselves while using an anonymous user name.

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        • That sounds like me about the Corona virus. People smoke while pumping gas. How the h*** do we expect them to follow all these safety guidelines and PPE hand washing masks. The most culturally homogeneous and small geographic countries areas did well through the Corona virus. We aint that. freedom also means the freedom to be a dumb a**.

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  41. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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  42. Don in Mar-a-Lago

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    • Don in Mar-a-Lago

      The Americans

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  43. PTC DAWG

    A fireworks factory..sure…

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  44. Texas Dawg

    As the topics have become less and less about UGA on the field football/recruiting and more about COVID,NIL, politics etc, etc, I have become less and less inclined to read and comment. I had to go back to find what all the kerfuffle was about yesterday (that thread went downhill in a hurry). I can not say I have not hurled a personal insult or two over the years but try to keep that to a bare minimum. There are times when I read something and think ” I can explain it to you but I can not understand it for you” but keep it to myself because I am not going to change the minds of the firmly idea logically entrenched (on both sides). No amount of logic and facts will change their minds so why waste the time (I have less years in front of me than behind me) and effort.

    I look forward to the day we can get back to what attracted most of this to this blog and unites us. No matter our political and social lean, we all share the love of UGA FOOTBALL and the opportunity to express our hatred and ridicule of lesser programs such as Flori-duh, |Awbarn, 10RC, North Avenue Trade School, The orange toothless hillbillies, and all the other inferior programs.

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  45. HirsuteDawg

    Senator, will the changes allow for a reader to “block” or not show comments from specific responders in the comments section they are viewing? I love the variety and sharing of opinion – but not ad nauseam.

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  46. BuffaloSpringfield

    For What it’s Worth:
    Thanks Senator, your a blessing to a ole’Dawg. I just hope we make it through November with the Dawgs undefeated 🙌, the season gets played, this damn virus and the election that seems to separate brothers with in the same country be over and Dawgs everywhere are healthy and playing in the Championship Game.
    As for me I am a bit leary as within the next week I will be in for a hip replacement. With the Covid bouncing off of hospital walls and so much uncertainty in the USA 🇺🇸 this was a difficult decision. I do want to keep on walking and to do so this is a must. Just like jumping out of helicopters in the 60’s and a masters degree in 76 and 30 years of coaching ending in 2006 to now caretaking my Mom who’ll turn 90 in October.
    To you Sir I salute your effort.

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  47. dawgxian

    Would just like to point out that I have seldom commented the last 2 months so don’t blame me

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  48. So I know there some gamers here, but ghost of tsushima is absolutely a delight.

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    • Russ

      Is it out yet? The previews really looked good. I’m still play “The Last of Us 2”, but could see playing that next.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      I still need to finish:

      Arkham Knight – I’m finally 100% in everything but the AR Tests before going off to face the Scarecrow, so I can get the real ending

      AC IV: Black Flag – I’m on my third play through of this game. I love being a pirate!

      Dragon Age Inquisition – I love this game, but I pick it up for a day or two, get into it, and then put it down for three months

      Kingdom Hearts III – I dunno… I’m not into it, but I bought it so I feel like I have to play it

      Call of Duty WWII – It’s the best storyline a CoD game has had, but I dunno… just not into it

      Halo Master Chief Collection – Finished Halo for the first time in like, 15 years. Now playing Halo 2 and it’s effing amazing remastered. This is one I pick up and fool around with to pass the time

      Games I’ve bought but not started yet:

      AC: Odyssey – I only bought it because the Ultimate Edition was on some kind of ridiculous sale and my brother liked it, but I hated the change in control scheme from Origins, so I dunno. I’m leery.

      AC, AC 2, AC 3, and AC: Rogue: Remastered – It’d be fun to revisit these games upscaled to full HD.

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  49. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

    Okay, this is late in the day so it may not get traction, and if it doesn’t, I’ll ask again next week…

    If y’all could make one SMALL change to the Georgia Bulldogs (meaning no firings, no swapping Newman for Lawrence or Dabo for Kirby, nothing that changes who this team will be in 2020 and beyond) what would that be?

    For me, it would be to force Nike to bring back the old silver material to make real silver britches and also ditch the fucking ugly number font (I like the letter font).

    Yes, I know the material is “heavier” than the current material, but come on, is a pair of britches that weight an ounce more or don’t wick sweat as well really going be the difference in winning and losing?

    And then a return to block numbers is also well overdue. These fucking non-serif fat and rounded numbers are Goddamned horrible to look at. They’re too big and too thick (that’s what she said!). They take up too much room on the jerseys, which make the jerseys feel unbalanced between the solid color of the jersey and the color of the numbers.

    Anyway, that’s a small change I would make to improve the Georgia Bulldogs.

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  50. Union Jack

    David Mitchell gets right to the point in this clip … Fax and, as mentioned in the clip, FACTS are no longer something on which reasonable people can agree. The internet and even more specifically social media is killing facts. Also IDIOTS are the problem … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZbQIXoVMY

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  51. I don’t understand why we can’t just just keep it light here. We all have this one thing we love in common. Whether you describe that as college football generally or Georgia football specifically. It’s the love of a thing that brings us here. There are plenty of other platforms that might attract us as an opportunity to proselytize or debate. And there’s plenty of room for debate within the current state of college football. I just think it’s possible to have those conversations and salivate at the occasional dawg porn and enjoy the big wins and commiserate over the horrific losses with nary a word of national politics. We have plenty of material at a blog about COLLEGE FOOTBALL, without continuing the perpetual food fight that exists everywhere else on the internet.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)

      As long as covid-19 is an issue, which it may be for a long time considering there are other novel coronaviruses with no vaccines, and as long as some people continue to push a fear-based narrative not backed by available data… I think we’re gonna be largely stuck.

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  52. Anonymous

    I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men and women are created by the co- you know th- you know the thing.”

    I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the content of their character but by the color of their skin, their gender identity, and their sexual fetishes.

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  53. Hunkering Hank

    Thanks Derek

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  54. tiredofidsearch

    I’m onboard with you senator.

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  55. I like the idea of registered accounts. Sock puppets always conveniently show up at predictable moments. it wont make it impossible without IP bans, but it makes it a lil more work.

    Now I’m forgetting the other new things. Lol

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  56. Should there be a silent, introspective eulogy for Little Boner…?

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