August 7, 2020 · 6:45 AM

TFW the anecdotal doesn’t care about the statistical

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It’s a good thing Travis doesn’t have a sense of shame.  His business model can’t afford one.

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60 responses to “TFW the anecdotal doesn’t care about the statistical”

  1. RangerRuss
    August 7, 2020 at 7:13 AM

    “Well there’s one in every crowd
    For cryin’ out loud
    Why was it always turning out to be me?”
    If I was a football player that would be what was going through my mind. Hell, it’s going through my rock head about a class I have to teach next week with twenty people in an auditorium size room. I don’t want to contract that shit but I have an important job to do. Plus I’m being paid a significant amount. Everyone has to make up their own mind and live or die or suffer with the consequences.
    I haven’t said much about it and that’s all I have to say.

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  2. mddawg
    August 7, 2020 at 7:20 AM

    I’ll take “Tweets that haven’t aged well” for $200 Alex.

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  3. Scuba
    August 7, 2020 at 7:22 AM

    He is consistent. I’ll give him that and unless you post something of his I won’t read his garbage.

    On that note I feel the need to add a thank you. I know You have always stated this blog is a labor of love. During these dark times it has stayed not only these best UGA football blog. it’s a safe place where you do an amazing job allowing free exchange of ideas. Those that attack differing view points personally are encouraged to go elsewhere or disappear. Open debate and exchange of thoughts is encouraged. What a refreshingly old school idea of journalism.

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    • Senator Blutarsky
      August 7, 2020 at 7:34 AM

      Thanks for that, Scuba.

      I’m not a journalist, though. 😉

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      • Got Cowdog
        August 7, 2020 at 8:14 AM

        I was LMAO last week when you called the comment section a “Drudge”. That’s a hell of a statement from a guy who reads and writes real estate contracts for a living.
        Keep up the good work, Senator. We all appreciate it.

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        • Senator Blutarsky
          August 7, 2020 at 8:18 AM

          Hey, I like drafting docs!

          One thing I can tell you for sure: it beats the hell out of domestic relations work. You couldn’t pay me enough to do that.

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          • RangerRuss
            August 7, 2020 at 8:30 AM

            I once had aspirations to join the League of Attorneydom until my future brother in law and former Marine friends showed me what it really entailed. Humping a ruck in the boonies didn’t look so hard afterwards.

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          • Silver Creek Dawg
            August 7, 2020 at 9:20 AM

            You ain’t lying there, Senator.

            About 10 years ago, I decided to look at making a career change away from sales and into the law (specifically a paralegal). I went back to school and got my AA in Paralegal Studies (ironically enough, wanting to specialize in doing real estate and contract law). As you can imagine, part of my training was learning about domestic relations (divorce) law. Not a chance in hell would I ever work in that field.

            Never did make the change (strangely enough, my sales career rocketed upward financially about the time I finished school and has been consistent ever since), but I do feel the training I got has made me better at my job.

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          • rabe76
            August 7, 2020 at 9:45 AM

            Personally, I attended law school purely for the love of responding to discovery. It’s the BEST, Jerry, the BEST.

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            • SSB Charley
              August 7, 2020 at 10:30 AM

              Have you experienced the joy that is writing coverage opinions? Because man, that right there is some excitement. Nothing fires up your day like poring over insurance contracts and indemnity agreements. BOOM!

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  4. Gurkha Dawg
    August 7, 2020 at 8:31 AM

    If the theory about there being an infinite number of parallel universes is true, I guarantee you this would be the only one where Dabo has the success he has had in his life.

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  5. Argondawg
    August 7, 2020 at 9:39 AM

    I got the impression last night reading a couple of articles about it that it was Covid and strep and weight gain and emotional issues for Xavier. Don’t get me wrong Covid can be a mean mother but I think quarantine has messed with him as much as anything. There a lot of people sufferIng psychologically from this time and I think that has added to it for him. I wish the young man the best in getting back to 100%

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
      August 7, 2020 at 9:46 AM

      When it comes to that, it’s generally not just the one thing.

      Mental health issues are near the top of my list of worries from the last 6 months.

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      • ETDF
        August 7, 2020 at 12:58 PM

        Mental health issues have always been at play – its just easier to see now. Its not going to go away either. I don’t think this COVID-19 outbreak has caused anything new. But it has caused new changes for many. Perhaps the increased awareness in the suffering in others will be a silver lining.

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    • Ricky McDurden
      August 7, 2020 at 9:55 AM

      I think what you just mentioned (mental health) is a big piece of COVID that gets discounted from people who have had it or who have been near it by those who are adamant about wishing this thing away. This whole process has taken a noticeable toll on the mental well-being of the whole of society and I don’t understand the cognitive dissonance of those who assume that if they catch it, they will just be one of the asymptomatic carriers that barely notices they have it. A 7 year old with no underlying health conditions just died in Savannah from this thing and while that’s one in a million kids, I doubt his parents were in any way prepared that their otherwise healthy child was going to be taken from them. That’s a lot of weight to carry mentally when you don’t have it, let alone if you catch it and you have to hope that you’re going to pull through AND not pass it on to someone you care about.

      So, I get why Thomas has been rocked so hard by this beyond just having the virus and get the inclination of guys like Toney and Copeland at UF to consider sitting out. If guys at UGA feel the same, I’m going to understand their motivations on that end as well and hope they can stay safe. Let’s just survive and advance, y’all.

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      • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
        August 7, 2020 at 9:59 AM

        See, you say that, and I also worry about the mental health of people who are scared to death that if they catch this thing it’s an automatic death sentence when statistically, it isn’t, especially if they’re relatively healthy with no comorbidities.

        The blade cuts both ways.

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      • Argondawg
        August 7, 2020 at 10:04 AM

        Amen brother. The general population is suffering from the added stress of Covid. For most that get it there is a very real anxiety for themselves and their loved ones. My biggest concern is for those that work in ICU, the Covid floors and the ER at the hospitals. One of my good friends who works in ICU lost a patient in each of the last three shifts she worked. She said it’s like a war zone at times. Folks are dying alone in a room hooked to machines. No family. They can’t even see the faces of the people caring for them. This shit absolutely sucks across the board and the mental health aspects are getting worse. Here is hoping for a vaccine and that it’s effective, reliable and safe.

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  6. rabe76
    August 7, 2020 at 9:47 AM

    Dabo has also announced that he supports some kind of player compensation lump sum payment tied to graduation. So there’s at least that.

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  7. BuffaloSpringfield
    August 7, 2020 at 9:54 AM

    For What it’s Worth:
    Senator, if I were to add my cents to another cluster of 2020 with of all things, a change shortage, the largest supply of oil and gas and natural gas ( as prices increase daily ) , baseball with no fans, not having a SEC schedule after everyone in the country seems to have put something on paper. The possibility of no college football at all and businesses closings and Covid.
    As well as you multitask your day job and run this illustrious UGA blog if you wanted to you could shutdown the AJC and bring back what newspapers really were. Having actual news and facts while not bashing one ideas into the others thoughts for $$$. There has always been a market for truth said and in print. Although it not a sign of these times.

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  8. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
    August 7, 2020 at 9:54 AM

    Well, I wrote something and hit “post” and it seems to have disappeared into the ether. Probably for the best.

    tl;dr version:

    It sucks for the kid, but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s a statistical outlier. Why is he the story now with Connolly and everyone else ignoring the other 30 or so kids who were asymptomatic or suffering mild symptoms? It’s not just that this is all anecdotal, it’s how other anecdotal evidence that goes against the preferred narrative is ignored.

    Senator, I know you don’t like Clay Travis, but he’s the only media member I’ve seen to have apologized for believing China and WHO’s false numbers back in March. He owned up to not questioning the numbers from a totalitarian state and believing them. NYT, WaPo, CNN, Fox, MSNBC… they all did the same and said this was no big deal back then, too. I don’t remember any of them apologizing or giving retractions. I only remember them pivoting immediately to fear porn. Clay Travis has been consistently about the data since this thing started and has avoided the narrative and anecdotal evidence for statistical evidence. So dislike him all you want, but to me that’s preferable to the prevailing narrative.

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    • rabe76
      August 7, 2020 at 11:28 AM

      My problem with anecdotal evidence is it can be used to make an argument against many things we use in our everyday lives. As someone who was involved in a head-on collision that nearly killed me and my wife I can tell you there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that would counsel against the use of the automobile, which is generally responsible for the deaths of as many people in America in a single year as the entire Vietnam War combined. – and those deaths skew young. The anecdotal is not useless evidence, but it has to be considered in the context of the data.

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  9. ASEF
    August 7, 2020 at 9:55 AM

    Clay and Finebaum. UT’s revenge.

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    • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
      August 7, 2020 at 10:02 AM

      There’s a lot of things where I don’t agree with Travis. His ATS picks tend to be pretty terrible and a lot of his other sports takes fall more in line with the Cowherds and Bayless’s of the world, but on this, he’s been the one guy banging the drum for the available data. Does he do it like an arrogant d-bag frat bro? Yeah, and I think that’s why he turns off most people.

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      • ASEF
        August 7, 2020 at 10:24 AM

        It’s just more pandering, imo.

        He knows his audience wants college football (we all do) and tells them what they want to hear. It’s how all those guys and gals in “high contrast opinion media” make their money. Puff up your audience as brilliant and enlightened, mock the crap out of differing views.

        He’s not following Covid data. He following audience research.

        That’s directed at Clay, not Covid data or what sorts of reasonable conclusions can be drawn from it. I think we know where everyone here stands on that issue at this point.

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        • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
          August 7, 2020 at 10:28 AM

          I mean, I get what you say with the “high contrast media,” which given the state of our current media landscape is not the problem by the way, but I disagree that he does anything to the data itself. He sources and cites his data. I don’t listen to his show, but anytime I see him on twitter talking about CDC updates or such, he provides links or pics for the data. He’s been one of the few to avoid the prevailing narrative which is anecdotal. When trying to separate stat from anecdote, he has tended to be right far more than wrong. His problem as I see it is that he steps on his own dick with his delivery, because again, he is an arrogant frat bro type guy.

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          • Senator Blutarsky
            August 7, 2020 at 10:30 AM

            No, the problem is he lacks credibility because he panders to his audience.

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            • trbodawg
              August 7, 2020 at 10:42 AM

              “Panders to his audience” is, unfortunately, too often seen as a positive trait.

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            • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
              August 7, 2020 at 11:06 AM

              When you say “panders,” it perpetuates the idea that the side you don’t like doesn’t believe what they’re saying because it’s not what you believe. When it comes to covid-19, Clay Travis 100% believes in what he says. He puts his kids on planes and goes to Florida and sits on a beach. According to some, doing that means his entire family should be in a grave by now.

              I’m not saying Travis doesn’t have his own biases, I’m sure he does, but I can’t say that’s more wrong or worse than Dan LeBatard or Peter King or other members of more important media who do as well. The trick as I see it is to take a little from everywhere to try to make sense of everything, while being careful of the massive grains of salt.

              I think the difference between how you and I see it is while I disagree with fear porn narrative peddlers like Peter King or Stew Mandel, I would never say they’re pandering. I honestly believe them to be as irrational as they appear to be.

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              • Senator Blutarsky
                August 7, 2020 at 11:10 AM

                When it comes to covid-19, Clay Travis 100% believes in what he says.

                Bless your heart. You’re a true fan of the guy.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
                  August 7, 2020 at 11:26 AM

                  When someone’s actions mirror what they say, Senator, what would you call that? Seriously. This idea that Travis simply panders to idiot yokels because he has the temerity to not follow the prevailing anecdotal based narrative that ignores the statistical reality of this virus is not honest. If he was only pandering, he wouldn’t put his family on a plane and go to the one place in the country with the most “cases.” If he didn’t believe in the data, if he believed he was full of shit to make money like you think, why would he then do the things that would put his wife and kids at risk?

                  I believe people show you who they are through their actions not their words. I see a lot of bullshit coming out of Travis about many other things, like the relative success of his venture, but covid-19? Nope. He puts his actions where his mouth is there.

                  Does Peter King? Or Stew Mandel? Or Dan Wolken? I wonder if they’re all huddled at home, always social distancing, always mask-wearing, cowering in fear. Do they believe in what they say to the same extent Travis believes in what he says?

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                • Senator Blutarsky
                  August 7, 2020 at 11:29 AM

                  Seriously, man, you’re a fan and that’s fine by me.

                  Just don’t waste your time or mine trying to Travis-‘splain to me. I’ve been on his case here at the blog long before he embarked on his current shtick.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
                  August 7, 2020 at 11:45 AM

                  If that’s your only takeaway here, you’re really missing my point. Trying to explain why is probably playpen material, and I don’t want to get into that anyways. People show you who they are with their actions not their words, Senator. If you don’t like what Clay Travis has to say about anything else and you honestly believes he panders to his idiot audience, fair enough.

                  But you can’t make that claim with regards to what he says about covid-19. When it comes to that, his actions prove it.

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              • Doug
                August 7, 2020 at 11:59 AM

                Flat-earthers and people who think aliens killed JFK 100% believe in what they say, too, but that doesn’t mean I gotta admire them or hold them up as paragons of integrity.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
                  August 7, 2020 at 12:13 PM

                  The comparison of a guy who literally just takes and talks about the available data that the CDC supplies and doesn’t buy into the fear porn media narrative to flat earthers is… something.

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                • Lone Stranger
                  August 7, 2020 at 12:54 PM

                  The CDC, in case you’ve been in a cave, is now another propaganda arm of the Executive branch. Sorry, possible Playpen — but relevant.

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                • Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
                  August 7, 2020 at 12:56 PM

                  Yep. When the data no longer supports the preferred narrative, it’s the data that’s corrupt and not the narrative.

                  Alinsky would be proud.

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  10. Napoleon BonerFart
    August 7, 2020 at 11:20 AM

    Between this kid and the Indiana player, those are two awesome anecdotes.

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  11. Corch Irvin Meyers, New USC Corch (2021)
    August 7, 2020 at 11:54 AM

    Senator, I don’t know if you saw this, but this is one of the more heartbreaking and anger-inducing stories I’ve seen come out of college athletics. It’s not quite on par with the MSU and PSU situations, but for institutions that are supposedly there to “help the kids succeed in sports and life,” these coaches and trainers and administrators really failed their kids in every possible way.

    https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/sports/ncaaw/big12/2020/08/05/marlene-stollings-texas-tech-program-culture-abuse-players-say/5553370002/

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  12. DawgPhan
    August 7, 2020 at 11:58 AM

    Some folks place to much value on being the smartest person in the room.

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  13. Senator Blutarsky
    August 7, 2020 at 1:25 PM

    Another day, another closed comment thread.

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