Nothing says you’ve got nothing to hide like this:
Last month, the Tribune reported that dozens of UT-Austin donors threatened to pull funds if the university got rid of the song, which has been the subject of student protests. After the story ran, UT-Austin President Jay Hartzell released a statement that said he received a “small number” of hateful emails about the issue and they “bear no influence on any aspect of our decision-making.”
Then, after the Tribune inquired about missing records, UT-Austin identified more than 550 additional emails that should have been provided in response to an open records request.
Oopsie! I can’t imagine what the problem was…
“This current, highly emotionalized and factually inaccurate movement is counterproductive, will generate more divisiveness and also destroy the progress made in integration up to now,” Stanley wrote in a letter in mid-June criticizing Hartzell’s leadership for meeting with the athletes, which was forwarded to Hartzell by donors nearly a dozen times. “It is being fomented by socialistic groups that are using the blacks as pawns. It is regrettable that the University has accepted this movement. If black athletes really want to improve the general situation for the black community, they should work within themselves.”
Yes, that is regrettable. But they’re working on it.
Mickey Klein said in a phone interview with the Tribune that while minstrel shows are “disgusting,” he supports keeping the alma mater song and wants the university to get to a place where “everyone, Black [people], people of color are comfortable with the song.” The Kleins said they would continue to support the school financially regardless of Hartzell’s decision over the issue.
“This is not something that we can sweep under the rug, there has to be an open dialogue and discussion,” Mickey Klein said.
Well, Mr. Stanley has certainly been afforded that opportunity.
As far as making people of color comfortable with the song, Texas might start by not mandating that its football players have to associate with it by standing for the song after a game. Then again, that might be too open a dialogue for some folks.
You think when this guy reads his statement in a few years he will feel the same way? This will not end well.
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Not being familiar with the Texas song, what is the issue with the words or whatever? Are they really that offensive?
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It’s not the words; it’s the history. It comes out of minstrel shows.
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It’s not JUST the history. The words are, at a minimum, creepy as hell:
“The Eyes of Texas are upon you,
All the livelong day.
The Eyes of Texas are upon you,
You cannot get away.
Do not think you can escape them
At night or early in the morn —
The Eyes of Texas are upon you
Til Gabriel blows his horn.”
It’s not really hard to imagine why black players might not want to be forced to stand and have that sung at them by a bunch of mostly white alumni. More so since it is clear from the correspondence that has been leaked that some prominent supporters of the song are unreconstructed racists.
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When the words “likely” & “unlikely” are used to explain that the song came from minstrel shows, it reinforces the “fake” woke narrative!
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Right. Because everyone knows it was highly unusual for white people to wear blackface in early 20th century minstrel shows.
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You “likely” believed Jussie Smollett….amiright?
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I’d have to give a fuck about Jussie Smollett first to believe him.
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My understanding is that it debuted at a minstrel show. Was it a staple of those shows afterwards?
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Ban all history…someone will get their feelings hurt otherwise.
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Can’t stop at voluntary participation can you? I mean that would be too much freedom, for them anyway. How can we ever be free if those people are free not to participate?
Freedom means white people forcing those people to sing and dance the damn songs we like ‘em to sing!
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I’m offended, that movie should be banned.
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Don’t watch it.
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I’m offended that you want me to be able to make a choice.
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But if you afford “others” a choice that means erasing history!
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Our military did all they could to protect this historical monument:
Sad that the “woke” crowd had its way.
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Or learn from history and stop using some bullshit nostalgia to justify calling the shit parts shit.
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All of it was likely shit.
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Every time Texas shoots itself in the dick, an angel gets its wings.
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There has to be a way to compromise on this. Allow the players who don’t want to participate to leave the field before the band plays and expect those who remain on the field to participate. Something like that seems to make sense.
Of course, I don’t understand either Texas school’s cultish stuff, so it doesn’t matter to me. Sark is going to have to lead on this or the large boosters are going to run over him.
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That’s going to happen regardless. It happens to every coach there. Mack was the exception, not the rule.
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Woke Snowflake Liberals don’t compromise….period.
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You prefer these far more reasonable folks amirite?
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and there it is.
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I’m offended…ban it.
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“Woke” = anything other than the Boomer status quo.
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false and bs and horse manure
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Bull fucking shit.
They would have called Brown v BOE “woke”.
They would have called CRA and VRA “woke”.
They would have called GA changing the flag “woke”.
Etc. Etc. Etc. It’s tired, it’s predictable, it’s “THEY’RE taking OUR culture way” it’s “We have to take OUR country back”.
It’s as predictable as the son coming up in the East, they just change the name from “political correctness” to “woke” to whatever is next. Anything that challenges the status quo or pushed back on boomer nostalgic is meet with this push back.
It’s stupid and impedes progress, but then again, that’s the point.
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Sun. Dammit.
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i like you, but saying “woke” is far beyond being mean to boomers
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Reducing our side to “wokeness” is both racist and fascist. Those damn Nazi boomers!
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Actually they called it all creeping communism.
Still do.
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Woke= shit like The Masters is named after slavery and capitalizing the word black no matter what context or part of a sentence it is in.
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eet, why do it the easy way when you can make it hard??
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Lets see here if ca$h IS king…money talks, bullshit walks, corn grows on stalks, pitcher balks, Dawg barks, this is a pain for Sarks….
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Just because a minstrel shows’ content may be racist doesn’t mean that the music is bad. Take things as they are, not the way you want it to be.
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I doubt the black players see being made to stand for the song as taking things as they are, but your mileage obviously varies.
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“A toast to The Black Man: Thanks for taking things in stride.”
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You didn’t get the memo…everyone must be offended…..EVERYONE.
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Tan suit, dude. Tan suit.
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Tan offends me. Ban it.
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It’s the commie, socialist hippies!!!!!!!!!!!
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You mean the players?
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Yep those commies who currently do not get paid but would like be able to earn some scratch on their own likeness.
Damn Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Mao to hell (even if they don’t believe in it) for indoctrinating our football players with this blasphemy.
Voicing displeasure over a song written almost 120 years ago is just a bridge too far … our republic is lost.
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Adjust your snarkometer, I’m not Russ.
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Actually it was for Spence …
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The players voices about this song need to be heard. I wonder if Sark is wishing he had stayed at Alabama. Since those emails will be available to all the writers will suffer consequences for their words and the university will too if they continue to allow them influence. The boosters are choosing to “die” over a song.
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I don’t GAS about Texas, the state or the university. But I cannot help but observe that when the PC police come for Georgia (and they will) some of you sanctimonious MFs will be singing a different tune. I don’t know what it will be or exactly when, but it will be something equally “made up and flagellant.”
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Yawn.
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Burp.
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Why would the Panama City police be coming to Georgia for me?
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The Panama City police are too lazy to do that.
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Ha! With you there. They’re worthless.
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You mean like dropping “Dixie” from the “Dixie Redcoat Band”? Or dropping the playing of the song “Dixie”? Or more recently (since you may not have been around when the first two happened), dropping “Tara’s Theme” from the post game performances by the Red Coat Band?
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None of those offend me or anyone else I know.
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So what?
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Flatulent, perhaps???
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I thought that you donated money to a football program because you wanted the team to be good. If all these donors are really concerned about is having “I’ve Been Workin’ on the Railroad” sung to them like secretaries being serenaded at their birthday lunch at T.G.I. Friday’s, maybe they should donate to UT’s choral programs instead.
This kind of boosters-wagging-the-dog situation is almost enough to make me start calling them Auburn West, but even Auburn’s boosters wouldn’t get worked up over something this stupid.
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Do you like hearing “Glory Glory to Old Georgia?” How about when some woke assholes start saying that song should be banned as racist because it comes from an old Civil War tune (albeit from the Northern side) that reminds them of that period of American history? It will be something just as bizarre as saying what they are saying about The Eyes of Texas—calling a song racist when it doesn’t have a single racist word in it.
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So, Texas players being forced to stand for the playing of a song that offends them makes them “woke assholes”?
I guess that’s better than “socialistic groups that are using the blacks as pawns.” How should we refer to Ben Stanley?
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Really Otter? Defecting to the side of Greggie and Dougie …
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Wut
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It was written by an abolitionist. So not quite the same thing.
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Losers die on hills over ancient songs and get lucky in the sUGAr Bowl when halfa dozen starters opt out and think they’re back. Winners upgrade their coaching staffs, bring in impact starters through the transfer portal and roll the donation machine down the track. When the biggest problem is trying to get past an elite dynasty in your own conference and a trash fan base enthralled in predicting doom and explaining away wins to slam dunk on each other for internet posting glory, none of that junk happens. Heyell, nobody other than the Red Coat Band knew they played the Gone With the Wind song after games and when they stopped it was crickets.
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Everyone is so offended….D, JD.
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everybody is racist….they just don’t know it yet. just happy we have some to explain why we are.
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Only certain people can be racist…and those that call people racist can’t even begin to define the term.
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Can they just carry a mirror around for when you show up?
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“Aight”……guess I need to get with the program.
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It’s not just people who are racist.
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Ho Li Phuk!!
If the volk wants to change the Eyes of Tejas on account of it’s inglorious past,
Then the fight song, Texas Fight, is going have to change too!!
The second verse…
The Eyes of Texas are upon you,
All the livelong day,
The Eyes of Texas are upon you,
You cannot get away.
For it’s Texas we love the best.
Hail, Hail the gangs all here,
And it’s goodby to all the rest!
This is too damn funny!!
The ball’s in Sark’s court,
Govern yourself accordingly!!
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ground hog day again! someone innocently says “whats racist” – then more blow ups, then I was waiting on Derek to do blazing saddles, then someone will say “wait till they come after Georgia” then there will be some history rewritting on the song, the DON will show up with stupid tweets. lol.
It aint even our school. Which is the funniest part to me.
But, I love it, its entertaining. I look forward to the final stage – very personal attacks.
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Yep. This nothing burger keeps getting thrown on the grill, but hey, it is the off season. Sure beats talking about basketball.
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Do we have a BB team any longer? I heard they left town.
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LAWD!….hope the took “Corch” with them.
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We do. Joanie Taylor is the head coach.
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The fact that movie was made nearly 50 years ago and idiots around here still don’t “get it” (or pretend not to) should defeat any notion of white supremacy and the tenets of white nationalism along with them.
In summary:
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http://www.stevenroyedwards.com/animalhouseisracist.html
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I mean, how easy was that?
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https://twitter.com/thehassett/status/1378453639564566528
https://twitter.com/viperfb14/status/1378476001664106497
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please lawd stop. your comment tweets suck and are so annoying.
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https://twitter.com/thehassett/status/1037065817173704704
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Stanley plagiarized the Head Nazi from The Blues Brothers:
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My first car was a 1979 Mercury Bobcat. The sister car to the Ford Pinto. The old girl will live forever thanks to this movie lol.
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Yea, boosters are dumb to a point. Looking around 👀 at the room, after yesterday’s explosion of bidding on 5✨‘S with NIL. The atrocity of “ I’ve been working on the railroad” was written in 1894 and I guess was apart of minstrel shows I have no idea. That was 127 years ago, 8 years later John Sinclair a son of a dairy farmer. Any ya’ll ever had the pleasure of working on a dairy farm ? Sinclair penned the words “The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You as a spoof on the president of UT ( burnt Orange version ) because of President William Prather’s saying of the eyes of Texas are always on you and expects you to do great things.
John Sinclair was a member of the band, glee club, worked on the college newspaper, was assigned duties of the school year book and played football. It does state that the glee club performed a minstrel show to raise money for the college track team. Looking at the definition of minstrel shows it has several conniptions and there is one specific noted here.
Back on 65’ I was sitting in the gym and a new kid came in, I was going to shoot some hoops before school. His name is Fred Casey, his mom and mine worked together on a production line. I never really noticed much about him but he was quiet and so I was I. He couldn’t shoot BB worth a flip and really never got any better. We became best friends, him and I ( neither of us had dad’s, deadbeats they were ) spending the night in each other’s homes. We graduated and he went to the Army and I got a scholarship in basketball to a small NAIA school close to home. Now it’s a school that should still be NAIA but wants to be big time but can’t win a game. They’ve played Bama, North Carolina, Clemson, Georgia and Fech.
In comparison Fred graduated and became a Col. in the Army, I graduated did some engineering work then became a teacher and coach. He lives on the left coast, me on the right. My mom got Covid on September 28, I got her back after her 90th. birthday on December 1st. Fred’s mom got it in November and she got out in February. Fred and I text a couple times a week, his wife died of cancer two years ago.
I have took Mom by to see Ms. Romaine, as I have always called her 3-4 times since they both had their shots and I also have. The only difference is Fred and his mom are not the same color as my mom and I. If you look deep in your heart and your family tree, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent you can find enough hate, race issues, tax evasion, adultery to hate. If that’s what you wanna find it you can. All you have to do is look for it. Hate or Love.
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This goes to my point yesterday. Alumni with large wallets and even larger egos will use $$$ to get what they want. There is no ROI on the money they spend to affect an outcome be it the Eyes of Texas, a new head coach or NIL. They have egos that need to be stroked. University of Texas just happens to be the best (worst) example of this.
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It makes perfect sense that mask deniers, refusers and their defenders are perfectly fine with:
“You stand there and sang my damn song, boy! Its like important and stuff.”
But muh freedom crowd draws a clear line of demarcation between the free and the just damn annoying, unreasonable and bitchy.
They call tell just by looking at you which side you fall on.
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If they would just protest peacefully, Derek, I don’t think anyone would have a problem with it. /s
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Can’t wait till tomorrow, what will we be told if to be offended by?
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Am hoping it will be what songs does Brian Kemp like
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https://www.volnation.com/forum/threads/when-will-bama-end-the-racist-confederate-yellowhammer-cheer.317708/
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Gotta tell you, it’s a real trip hearing “man, you people are always offended about SOMETHING” from the same side that soiled its collective drawers over Starbucks not putting “Merry Christmas” on their coffee cups.
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conflation, you has it. But Derek has it in a spades.
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Its different cuz you say so!!
Y’all’s ability to rationalize anything and everything is amazing.
The argument style, which can only be equated to a feces throwing screaming monkey, is just sad.
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you are an idiot and a moron. You dont know me, or anything about me, but your tribalism dictates putting me in some group, “y’all”. You actually do conflate a shit ton Derek, you are a fascist, you are a hypocrite, you are a loser that stalks the GTP website for political tribalism. Thats it. Nothing you do here changes anything, nor changes anybody. The only feces throwing screaming monkey, is you. And whats sad,is you are the only one that doesnt see it.
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Okay, guys (note use of the plural here), time to dial it back.
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You’re small minded, Chuck. You can’t appreciate how brilliant the conspiracy was. The president of an all-white university coined a saying. Then students wrote a song spoofing that saying. The song sounds creepy to twenty-first century ultra-sensitive neoliberals. The debut of the song might have involved blackface.
And now, over a century later, the conspiracy has come to fruition. Black students, the real target of the song, despite there being none when the song was written, are upset. It’s pure genius! I’m not sure how, but Trump/Putin must have been involved!
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Playpen, Nap.
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Some people are entitled to be offended by anything and everything.
Some people aren’t so entitled.
They know who is and who isn’t entitled to be offended at whatever with just one glance.
If you’re entitled then your fear and ignorance-based meltdowns are seen as reasonable.
If you aren’t entitled then your concerns aren’t worthy of any thought or consideration, at all.
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Our side goes deeper. We care about which side has more corporate sponsors.
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We all was happy down heah before ya’ll come down.
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And not only is them outside agitators hard core communists, they are of low moral character and unhygienic:
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With all due respect Senator, you can’t post inflammatory articles without expecting a configuration! 🙂
As an aside, I remember the days when Jews wouldn’t buy Mercedes, but I am stunned the our woke culture hasn’t gone after Mercedes, BMW and Audi. They fueled the German war machine leading to the death of tens of million. That is a irrefutable fact unlike a lot of these issues.
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I don’t mind stoking a debate, but there’s no need for name calling, or inserting Trump’s name into the comments thread.
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👍😁…… No thoughts on my German car company comment? I get that the consumer has a choice, but is it acceptable to have stadiums named after war mongers? The problem with the whole woke movement is where do you draw the line. IMHO, it will cause much more harm than good.
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People can boycott whatever they please, as far as I’m concerned. But I don’t see the connection between a car and a stadium.
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Why does it have to be about “line drawing?”
Why can’t it just be about being informed and making choices?
It seems to me like the battle is between a few nuts who occasionally act like everything needs to be buried in the past and a more mainline thought that discussing negative things from the past is somehow a bad thing.
I can sing the star spangled banner AND learn about the trail of tears.
I can know that Winston Churchill was often a racist AND honor him for staring down Hitler.
Why can’t we just be adults?
Why does every discussion of American history have to have a Lee Greenwood soundtrack?
Every person, group or nation has a history that is both good and bad. We should be able to learn the lessons of our own and our collective pasts in order to make better decisions tomorrow.
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Hey now, lay off my BMW’s. I even have one that has “Made in W Germany” stamped on all the parts.
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And I have two! I should hate those cars but I realize, despite the checkered past, the people who run the company and build the cars have nothing to with what happened 75 years ago. However, using today’s cancel culture standard they should put out of business.
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How did you become an expert on the cancel culture standard?
Is it written down?
Can you list who has been “cancelled” by that culture you are the expert on? Maybe we’ll see a pattern emerge.
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Come on dude… I’m no more of an expert than you are for all matters upon which you opine.
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It isn’t about whether I am more or less of an expert on anything.
If I make a statement of fact you think is bullshit, check me.
We know how it turns out when you get checked.
You change the subject.
Let’s see how I do.
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The moron governor of Texas is canceling baseball, big fucking whoop.
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Y’all are done here. Thread closed.
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“If black athletes really want to improve the general situation for the black community, they should work within themselves.”
Okay, because all societal problems are self-imposed and have no effect on the nation at large. I would love to see the black players give the school the finger and walk out. Fuck the kneeling or other half-measures. Just walk out and straight to the welcoming arms of other schools.
And walking out really works. Just the threat of a few MSU players walking out shut Leach’s big mouth last year.
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