Phil Steele’s got a post up at his blog about which college teams will lose the most to this year’s NFL draft.
He starts with this premise:
After several years of research I have found that almost 7 out of every 10 teams that rank among the top in the NCAA in players drafted struggle the next year and have a weaker record. I call it the Draft Day Party Hangover Effect.
The bad news is that Georgia suffers from the 19th biggest binge on his list. The good news is that there are several teams on Georgia’s schedule, along with some other SEC schools, which will have partied harder:
- Florida, 1st
- Alabama, 5th
- Tennessee, 6th
- Georgia Tech, 8th
- LSU, 9th
- Ole Miss, 16th
It’s interesting to tie this into Steele’s list of returning starters in the SEC.
Arkansas Georgia Mississippi St South Carolina Auburn Florida Kentucky Tennessee LSU Mississippi Vanderbilt Alabama
Florida loses a bunch of talent, but is upper-middle of the pack in terms of returning starters. That would suggest to me that the falloff may not be as severe as some predict for the Gators in 2010 – although there will be some. Alabama, on the other hand, looks like it faces a more daunting task than perhaps is acknowledged. And I’m surprised that LSU isn’t being scrutinized more about its numbers.
Anyway you look at it, the math for Tennessee basically sucks.
Then there’s Georgia Tech, about which Steele has this to say:
Georgia Tech has had 22 players drafted in the last ten years which ranks them 8th in the ACC. This year that number could significantly change as the Yellow Jackets could lose as many as 5 players to the draft including highly regarded WR Demaryius Thomas and DE Derrick Morgan who both have the opportunity to get drafted in the 1st round this year. RB Jonathan Dwyer will probably go in the 2nd round while FS Morgan Burnett will probably go in the 3rd round easily giving the Jackets their most points in over a decade!
So the Jackets lose their most talented bunch of players in more than ten years, but they do return the most starters in the ACC. Paul Johnson, also. Smells like back-to-back conference titles, right? (Please make sure your sarcasm detectors are turned on.)
I’d say the good news outweighs the bad, if you’re a Georgia fan.
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By numbers UF does not lose a lot. But losing Tebow and Spikes alone, hurts. And those aren’t even the most two “talented”, in terms of draft position that we lose.
So we’re losing our best leadership, and our best talent. Yet we return quite a bit by numbers (and talent, our recruiting has not been hurting).
Not really quite sure what to make of next year. I don’t think it will be as good as the past couple, obviously, but nor do I think we’ll fall of the face of the college football map like I’ve seen some rivals prognosticate.
Though, I am a college football fan, and it’s Spring, so I am not allowed to think we’re going to have a bad season.
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We will officially concede that Florida reloads, not rebuilds.
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Joe Haden’s loss will hurt the most IMHO…that kid was lock down last year.
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Eh… maybe. I’m still trying to figure out who’s gonna pick up those tough third-and-twos.
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Dunno. Somehow Florida managed to do that for the two years Leak was QB
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That was back in the days when the Gator running backs were a little bigger.
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Moody …
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Tebow was a ball hog and the qb position will be better!
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Yeah, it doesn’t quite always work out that way, does it, Aligator? Cherokee Parks was going to be better than Christian Laetner. Ed Davis was going to be better than Tyler Hansbrough. Doug Johnson was going to be better than Danny Weurffel. Joe McKnight was going to be better than Reggie Bush. They don’t hand those stiff armed trophies out to guys that have many guys on the planet better than them.
UF may very well re-load and Brantley may be All-American this year. But he might just be okay, too. He might be a 9-3 QB…or an 8-4 one. He might not can do it when the chips are down and you have to score in the 4th. He might pass with flying colors. The point is that you knew what you had w/ #15. You don’t know now. Sometimes you know you’ve got something no one else knows about. I think UGA fans knew that about Shockley. But he still had to do it.
We kinda thought we might have a little trick up our sleeve w/ Joe last year. Accurate QB and a great leader. Just what our talented squad needed. Instead, we got a hot head who couldn’t keep the team from imploding vs. Kentucky and routinely forgot which color jerseys we were wearing. We love Joe. He’s our dawg, but he was an 8-5 QB when we were hoping for something more like 10-3 or 11-2.
John Wall is a ball hog, too. Kentucky will not be better at point guard next season, friend. And if you think you’re going to get better at the QB position, you’ve probably been hanging out at Flip Flops in Remerton too long.
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Hey, lighten up on Joe Cox please. He got thrown into the deep end with both hands tied and no swimming experience. At the beginning of the season UGA opened up on the road with basically no running game. By the end of the season they had finally worked out the kinks and were pretty good (the UK screw-up aside). If the team had started with a couple of tuneup games, I think they would have been a 10-3 or 11-2 team even with the bad coaching on D and the special teams problems. The silver lining is last season forced CMR’s hand and the coaching problems have been corrected. Now, the future is so bright we all are gonna have to wear shades.
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All’s I am saying is that Tebow was a ball hog and the passing will be better, not trying to talk smack ….
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I would like to see an early prediction of what we lose in the 2011 draft. Without putting alot of thought into it, or checking the roster, I believe we have the potential to return most of the starting 22.
Anyone?
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Off top of my head I think we lose Boling and AJ Green (JR). Gamble and Dent on defense, I think.
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Anticipated senior starters on offense include Chapas, Boling, C. Davis & J. Davis. Perhaps A.J. leaves early. On D – Gamble is the only senior of the anticipated starters. I think Justin Houston is good enough to turn pro early. Starters returning for 2011: O = 6, D = 9.
The Dawgs have built up some good depth on the O-line since Coach Searels arrived. So loosing 3 starters may not hurt as much as one would initially think. Probably starting from scratch on a fullback in 2011. Fight for AJ’s position between Brown, Wooten, etc.
On D, Gamble is likely replaced by someone of equal or greater ability. Looks to be plenty of candidates for OLB if Houston leaves early.
By the way, both Butler and Walsh return again for 2011.
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It depends, Timmy. UF has certainly recruited well enough to reload, but so does Roy Williams in Chapel Hill. What gets you in a season like that is you can’t afford to have any injuries. The immediate problem with Carolina Basketball this year in November is that none of their McDonald’s All-Americans were named Hansbrough, Ellington, or Lawson. However, one assumed that Tyler Zeller and Ed Davis would make them competitive and probably get them to the sweet-16 till ol’ Roy can bring in a point guard next year. And they were competitive early in the year when they were healthy, beating Michigan St. and taking UK to the wire at Rupp. Then Zeller got hurt. Then Davis got hurt when it was 49-49 vs. Duke. And the wheels fell off.
Florida will be competitive, but the already face the burden that none of their stars are proven champions like Tebow, Spikes & Haden. What they can’t afford to happen is to have Brantley or a WR or an RB get hurt. Georgia was fine replacing Moreno w/ Ealey and King, but they were both hurt early in the year and that proved to be a death blow. It’s a brutal game. You’re counting on young talent to grow up and learn how to compete. What you can’t afford to have happen is having to count on even younger talent that you know isn’t ready to compete yet. But it’s a brutal sport. And those are the unknown factors of every season.
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agreed …
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Yeah, the theory seems logical, but I’m not really finding the numbers correlate…
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FLA will be good. Count on it. UGA just has to be better and I think the Dawgs will be.
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Florida will be good, but don’t think that they’re just going to tear through every regular season like the last two. They won A LOT of close games because they had a warrior at QB who knew how to win. They gutted out wins in the last two years against Miami, LSU, Miss. St., Ole Miss, Arkansas and others. The fact is that we just don’t know what the new guys will be like, but we know they won’t be proven commodities like Spikes and Tebow.
It just happens. It’s the beauty of college sports. You get four years with a star. Ride him as long as you can for as many championships as you can. Lars Tate was darn good, second most TD’s in UGA history. We had some decent moments from ’84-’87, beating #1, beating Clemson a couple times, beating Tech. But Lars wasn’t Herschel. Hansbrough always seemed to hit the clutch shot for the Heels. Funny how those shots aren’t falling for the other guys this year. Sometimes you follow up Carson Palmer with Matt Lienhart. But sometimes you follow up Mark Sanchez with a true freshman and take some lumps.
The key is for us to ride the Aaron Murray train for 4 solid years and go no worse than 2-2 against those reptiles during his tenure. Or 4-0 would be a nice turnaround. I can happen. We match up with them and we’ll do exactly what they don’t want us to do…run right at them. Man, can football season get here soon enough?
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Excellent comparisons. although I think Hampton was every bit as good as Tate. Come to think of it, we had some absolute thoroughbreds after HW – Henderson, Worley, Tate, and Hampton – just plain stacked.
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Don’t forget Garrison Hearst.
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Garrison was the MAN! if only he and Andre had stayed…that would of been fun to watch!
never forget Garrison strikin the Heisman when he scored against GT in Athens….I still think he got screwed, but I could be just a lil biased.
Gino who? Gino = Bum…now Faulk on the other hand…not so much
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Yeah, but he played in a different decade.
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Yeah, but w/i about 10 years of Herschel leaving.
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I suppose all this is just greaaaaaaat news for Dawg Nation. Wonderful for ya’ll. Just peachy.
All this greaaaaaaaat news plus a shiny new defensive staff means what exactly if your season does not go as planned (double digit wins, beat FLA, SEC East title at minimum).
Be careful, as it appears Dawgs have entered into the no excuses zone.
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Actually, the idea here was to enjoy bad things happening to you.
More wine garcon!
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I don’t think you’re getting the point behind my “doom” posts, PJ.
They’re not about drinking the red and black Kool-Aid; they’re about countering all the absurd “hot seat” and “program in decline” stuff you see on the Intertubes almost every day.
About the only thing I’m ready to say will go as planned is that there’s no way Georgia goes minus-16 in turnover margin in 2010. Beyond that, I’ve got an open mind, which is more than I can say for most outside observers of the program right now.
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10-2 easy … 9-3 worst case with a bowl win….
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that is realistic…but, a lot of things have to come together between now and then. on the other hand there are several games that could go either way in my opinion…we have to play much better on both sides of the ball and as a whole for that 10-2 to happen…
but, if that 10-2’s a realistic end result then I believe that there’s definitely the ability to knock at least one of those L’s off that…maybe two. it could also go the other way just as easily. you just never know how the team’s going to jell….plus it’s really tough to gague how MSU & Ark will improve this next year and USC always plays us tough! then you add a road trip to Boulder and Aub and UF…you just never know. trust me, i’m hoping for the best but i learned from last season you can’t put too much in the hands of a QB that hasn’t see the field much…
i’m just excited to see the product that is put on the field…can’t wait! LET’S GET IT ON! GO DAWGS!!
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plus a bowl win … sorry ..
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ARRESTS / SUSPENSIONS Coach Richt Era :
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DISMISSALS
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Another Day, Another Suspension to quote Red & Black
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Post Tony Cole Era BB after Adam$ Presidential Admit sacked Vince
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2001 Jermaine Phillips S suspended
2002 Odell Thurman suspended 2 times once for drugs
2002 George Foster OL suspended raping FL player during game
2003 Richt suspended 8 players 5 for 2 games weed Adam$ mad
2003 NCAA ruled 9 players ineligible selling SEC Champ rings
2003 Richt says tending to his player’s legal woes “occupies my time.”
2004 Richt suspended 3 Starters Opening Day 2004
2004 Odell Thurman LB suspended 3 games
2004 Derrick White LB suspended 2 games
2004 Richt signed Michael Grant UGA kicked him out
02 05 2005 Jamar Chaney LB someone took SAT for him kicked out
02 05 2005 Brandon Sesay LB Douglass High signed kicked out before started
04 10 2005 Derrick White LB arrest barroom brawl 2 game suspension
04 10 2005 Kedric Golsten DT arrest barroom brawl suspension 1 game
05 07 2005 Darrius Swain DT 45 day jail drive no valid license 3 times
05 17 2005 Michael Turner OL arrest weed in his auto suspended
05 17 2005 Zeb McKinzey OL arrest public drunkenness suspended
06 04 2005 Derrick White LB arrest DUI kicked off team
06 15 2005 Josh Johnson LB dismissed sent to Military School
08 03 2005 Chase Green FB arrest alcohol suspension
11 01 2005 Antonio Sims DUI arrest suspended 1 game
01 07 2006 Dannell Ellerbe LB arrested felony auto theft DUI suspended
02 19 2006 Ian Smith OL drunk public underage arrest suspended 2 games
02 20 2006 Marquis Elmore DT arrested driving with a suspended license
02 21 2006 Antonio Sims suspended all of 2006 student park pass kicked out of school
02 26 2007 Akeen Hebron LB underage alcohol 7:58 am booked suspended
06 01 2007 Tripp Chandler TE arrest alcohol Lumpkin suspended 1 game
06 01 2007 Blake Barnes QB arrest alcohol Lumpkin suspended
06 15 2007 Akeen Hebron LB 2nd arrest alcohol suspended all Fall Semester
07 16 2007 Tripp Taylor DT arrest assault big brawl at Lake Allatoona
07 18 2007 Caleb King TB arrested no driver’s license scooter 40 mph
07 30 2007 NaDerris Ward handcuff jail pass right no driver’s license scooter
08 05 2007 Paul Oliver CB academically ineligible kicked out of school
08 06 2007 Donavon Baldwin S missing classes suspended 2 games
11 25 2007 Jeff Henson C arrest DUI suspended for Sugar Bowl game
01 19 2008 Terreal Bierria DUI arrest speeding student held another charge
01 20 2008 Fred Munzenmaier FB alcohol arrest thought Police Taxi suspension
01 20 2008 Donavon Baldwin S DUI arrest 3 am suspended 1 game
05 04 2008 Clint Boling LT arrest Reckless-driving DUI 2 game suspension
06 15 2008 Jeremy Lomax speeding arrest concealed weapon charge dropped
06 27 2008 Trinton Sturdivant alcohol touched lady belly inappropriately arrest
06 27 2008 Justin Anderson alcohol touched lady belly inappropriately arrest
06 28 2008 Michael Lemon DE felony battery look at his woman dismiss
06 29 2008 Michael Lemon arrested underage alcohol
08 01 2008 Bruce Figgins TE suspended opening game 2008 rules
08 03 2008 Donavan Baldwin injured in bar fight got beat up dismissed
08 03 2008 Marcus Dowtin injured in bar fight got beat up
08 04 2008 Darius Dewberry LB hospital vandalism arrest suspended 2 games
08 04 2008 Jeff Henson C arrest public intox urinate in public suspension
08 04 2008 Richt “The reputation of this team has been damaged no question”
08 04 2008 Richt “all too often, actually left with a sickening feeling”
08 13 2008 Coach Richt 8 arrests after being ranked # 1 preseason
08 14 2008 Coach Richt 6 dismissed or suspended after # 1 rank
08 15 2008 Donavon Baldwin suspended indefinitely bar incident now
08 15 2008 Michael Lemon DT arrest underage drunk already kicked off
08 15 2008 did someone tell me we were great in 2008 really ?
10 20 2008 Brandon Wood arrested DUI suspended LSU game
04 14 2009 Dexter Moody LB signs with Richt threaten male teacher
04 14 2009 Dexter Moody kicked out of The University of Georgia
04 14 2009 Richt knew Moody already slept coach’s wife gave him cell phone
05 09 2009 Bruce Figgins TE failed drug test suspended 6 games
05 09 2009 Justin Houston only DE suspended Okie St & USC alcohol
08 09 2009 John Knox S Academics going to Georgia Military get grades up
08 31 2009 our record 7-6 that’s our record on the field the last 13 games.
10 01 2009 Jonathan Owens OL arrest traffic
10 07 2009 Rennie Curran LB bench warrant failure to appear Court speeding
10 15 2009 Vince Vance OT arrest traffic
10 20 2009 Montez Robinson suspended Shreveport arrest assault battery
11 01 2009 Vance Cuff CB arrest traffic
11 30 2009 Montez Robinson DE alcohol break tail lights arrest suspend 1 game
03 07 2010 Zach Mettenberger QB 18 arrest obstruction disorderly drunk 2 fake id
Coach Richt : “You feel sad and sick that one of the guys you’re an authority figure over and you care about got himself in trouble.” “You also hate the fact those guys do represent this program and this program represents this university and this university represents this state. It represents anybody who claims to be a Bulldog. I feel sick about that.” “It’s certainly been a distraction,” Richt said. “I mean there’s no way you can say it hasn’t been a distraction, because it has been.”
2-6 last 2 years vs Final Top 25 in the polls UGA Bulldogs, not up to standard.
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If I didn’t know you better, Thomas, I’d think this was an attempt at humor.
Whatever you’re consuming that’s causing these fever dreams, you might think about cutting back on it. 😉
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06 15 2001 Bruce Adrine DE arrest battery bar brawl suspended
06 05 2001 Randy McMichael suspended 1 game barroom brawl
06 05 2001 many other players in the barroom brawl not suspended
2001 Jermaine Phillips S suspended
01 14 2002 Brandon Woods Arrest Indictment hiding Tony Cole closet sex naked
2002 Odell Thurman suspended 2 times once for drugs
2002 George Foster OL suspended raping FL player during game
04 01 2003 Bryan McClendon Arrest drugs suspended 2 games
04 01 2003 Tim Jennings Arrest drugs suspended 2 games
04 01 2003 DeMario Minter Arrest drugs suspended 2 games
04 01 2003 Mario Raley Arrest drugs suspended 2 games
04 01 2003 Randall Swoopes Arrest drugs suspended 2 games
04 03 2003 Coach Neil Callaway DUI backed up checkpoint fine $11,000
2003 Richt suspended 8 players 5 for 2 games weed Adam$ mad
05 14 2003 BJ Fields suspended 1 game drugs
05 14 2003 Jamario Smith suspended 1 game drugs
05 14 2003 Chris Hickman suspended 1 game drugs
05 14 2003 Tyson Browning suspended 3 games drugs
2003 NCAA ruled 9 players ineligible selling SEC Champ rings eBay
05 14 2003 Michael Johnson Starting WR ineligible sold SEC Champ ring
05 14 2003 Kenny Bailey Starting CB ineligible sold SEC Champ ring
05 14 2003 Bruce Thornton Starting CB ineligible sold SEC Champ ring
05 14 2003 Fred Gibson Starting WR ineligible sold SEC Champ ring
05 14 2003 Darrius Swain Starting DT ineligible sold SEC Champ ring
05 14 2003 Tony Taylor Starting LB ineligible sold SEC Champ ring
05 14 2003 Tim Jennings Starting CB ineligible sold SEC Champ ring
05 14 2003 Tray Young walk-on ineligible sold SEC Champ ring
2003 Richt says tending to his player’s legal woes “occupies my time.”
2004 Richt suspended 3 Starters Opening Day 2004
2004 Odell Thurman LB suspended 3 games
2004 Derrick White LB suspended 2 games
07 01 2004 Kenny Bailey RB suspended 1 game stealing long distance
07 01 2004 Richard Seymour DT suspended 1 game stole long distance
07 01 2004 Robert Brannon TE suspended 1 game stole long distance
07 01 2004 Decory Bryant CB suspended 1 game stole long distance
07 01 2004 Kendrell Bell LB suspended 1 game stole long distance
07 01 2004 Tony Gilbert LB suspended 1 game stole long distance
07 01 2004 Charles Grant LB suspended 1 game stole long distance
2004 Richt signed Michael Grant UGA kicked him out
02 05 2005 Jamar Chaney LB someone took SAT for him kicked out
02 05 2005 Brandon Sesay LB Douglass High signed kicked out before started
04 10 2005 Derrick White LB arrest barroom brawl 2 game suspension
04 10 2005 Kedric Golsten DT arrest barroom brawl suspension 1 game
05 07 2005 Darrius Swain DT 45 day jail drive no valid license 3 times
05 17 2005 Michael Turner OL arrest weed in his auto suspended
05 17 2005 Zeb McKinzey OL arrest public drunkenness suspended
06 04 2005 Derrick White LB arrest DUI kicked off team
06 15 2005 Josh Johnson LB dismissed sent to Military School
08 03 2005 Chase Green FB arrest alcohol suspension
11 01 2005 Antonio Sims DUI arrest suspended 1 game
01 07 2006 Dannell Ellerbe LB arrested felony auto theft DUI suspended
02 19 2006 Ian Smith OL drunk public underage arrest suspended 2 games
02 20 2006 Marquis Elmore DT arrested driving with a suspended license
02 21 2006 Antonio Sims suspended all of 2006 student park pass kicked out of school
02 26 2007 Akeen Hebron LB underage alcohol 7:58 am booked suspended
06 01 2007 Tripp Chandler TE arrest alcohol Lumpkin suspended 1 game
06 01 2007 Blake Barnes QB arrest alcohol Lumpkin suspended
06 15 2007 Akeen Hebron LB 2nd arrest alcohol suspended all Fall Semester
07 16 2007 Tripp Taylor DT arrest assault big brawl at Lake Allatoona
07 18 2007 Caleb King TB arrested no driver’s license scooter 40 mph
07 30 2007 NaDerris Ward handcuff jail pass right no driver’s license scooter
08 05 2007 Paul Oliver CB academically ineligible kicked out of school
08 06 2007 Donavon Baldwin S missing classes suspended 2 games
11 25 2007 Jeff Henson C arrest DUI suspended for Sugar Bowl game
01 19 2008 Terreal Bierria DUI arrest speeding student held another charge
01 20 2008 Fred Munzenmaier FB alcohol arrest thought Police Taxi suspension
01 20 2008 Donavon Baldwin S DUI arrest 3 am suspended 1 game
05 04 2008 Clint Boling LT arrest Reckless-driving DUI 2 game suspension
06 15 2008 Jeremy Lomax speeding arrest concealed weapon charge dropped
06 27 2008 Trinton Sturdivant alcohol touched lady belly inappropriately arrest
06 27 2008 Justin Anderson alcohol touched lady belly inappropriately arrest
06 28 2008 Michael Lemon DE felony battery look at his woman dismiss
06 29 2008 Michael Lemon arrested underage alcohol
08 01 2008 Bruce Figgins TE suspended opening game 2008 rules
08 03 2008 Donavan Baldwin injured in bar fight got beat up dismissed
08 03 2008 Marcus Dowtin injured in bar fight got beat up
08 04 2008 Darius Dewberry LB hospital vandalism arrest suspended 2 games
08 04 2008 Jeff Henson C arrest public intox urinate in public suspension
08 04 2008 Richt “The reputation of this team has been damaged no question”
08 04 2008 Richt “all too often, actually left with a sickening feeling”
08 13 2008 Coach Richt 8 arrests after being ranked # 1 preseason
08 14 2008 Coach Richt 6 dismissed or suspended after # 1 rank
08 15 2008 Donavon Baldwin suspended indefinitely bar incident now
08 15 2008 Michael Lemon DT arrest underage drunk already kicked off
08 15 2008 did someone tell me we were great in 2008 really ?
10 20 2008 Brandon Wood arrested DUI suspended LSU game
04 14 2009 Dexter Moody LB signs with Richt threaten male teacher
04 14 2009 Dexter Moody kicked out of The University of Georgia
04 14 2009 Richt knew Moody already slept coach’s wife gave him cell phone
05 09 2009 Bruce Figgins TE failed drug test suspended 6 games
05 09 2009 Justin Houston only DE suspended Okie St & USC alcohol
08 09 2009 John Knox S Academics going to Georgia Military get grades up
08 31 2009 our record 7-6 that’s our record on the field the last 13 games.
10 01 2009 Jonathan Owens OL arrest traffic
10 07 2009 Rennie Curran LB bench warrant failure to appear Court speeding
10 15 2009 Vince Vance OT arrest traffic
10 20 2009 Montez Robinson suspended Shreveport arrest assault battery
11 01 2009 Vance Cuff CB arrest traffic
11 30 2009 Montez Robinson DE alcohol break tail lights arrest suspend 1 game
03 07 2010 Zach Mettenberger QB 18 arrest obstruction disorderly drunk 2 fake id
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You got that one bass-ackwards. Georgia ruled the players ineligible; the NCAA restored their eligibility.
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It was a sad day for our UGA Bulldogs’ Football Program, Bluto.
Selling SEC Championship rings. The NCAA said that they had to repay the monies.
They did.
They then were re-instated.
The rings are in a vault.
The players got nothing but bad press from it.
They still do.
Any others you wish to comment on?
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