This has some massive potential for awkwardness.
Mark Richt and his now former Georgia players still may get together one more time next week.
“I might go to the senior awards banquet,” the former Bulldog and newly hired Miami head coach told WQAM radio in South Florida on Friday. “The seniors asked me if I would come back. If it doesn’t disrupt the business of getting ready here at Miami, I’ll be there. Other than that, I’ll be here working.”
Um… what about the business of getting ready in Athens?
Look, I get why the seniors would ask him to do that. But he’s no longer a part of the program. If it’s about keeping up with the players he once coached, that’s what the Paul Oliver Network is for, something I hope he doesn’t let lapse now that he’s at Miami.
I’d like to think it doesn’t come to someone telling him it would be best not to attend, but that quote makes it sound like he’s not considering a graceful way out.
Get The Picture 
Awkward.
Didn’t Dooley hang out on the sideline in Goff era?
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Dooley was the AD. Big difference.
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Yeah, he won his press conference last Monday, but it’s been at least a little iffy since then. The shine of that presser has dulled a good bit, imo.
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Totally agree. In retrospect, it’s abundantly clear that the presser was head coaching job interview, part one. And the whole the “miserable around here” comment…
Kind of disappointing. I was hoping Richt would salvage a more heroic legacy at UGA than what I see shaping up.
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Awkward!
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Time for both sides to move on. Hope ADGM nips this in the bud.
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It’s hard to do that without pissing the players off; that’s not going to do much for ADGM or UGA image. If Mark had just said “I’d like to see the players, but don’t want to be a distraction from their moment” he would have made me feel a lot better.
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He can still say that. Email him. 🙂
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Well considering it is also a big recruiting event for us, we should not have coach Richt there (especially since he will be recruiting some of these same kids). Would make no sense for us to allow that.
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We’ve seen how fast these things can change this week (remain at UGA in an administrative position, nope going to the U, coaching bowl game, nope going recruiting). It was something that was said when we were still officially without a coach. My guess is Richt and his UGA belt will be staying in Coral Gables.
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Guess he can buy a ticket as anyone else.
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So much has changed since he left he won’t recognize the place!
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Maybe he should just send them a bouquet of FTD’s finest.
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Seriously, Senator?
What do you imagine are the most devastating possible consequences of this?
There are other people on this earth than the fans. These players and coaches went through a lot together this year, and the banquet is 100% about this year, not next year. Remember: Seniors are the players who are also moving on. Should they also be banned from the senior awards banquet?
You dropped the ball on this one. Get over it.
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I think I said awkward, which is a long way from devastating. But don’t let me stop you from overreacting.
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Did I misinterpret your suggestion that someone tell him not to attend as not what you would personally do, but rather what you expect our embarrassment of an athletic department to do?
If so, my apologies. If not, I’d like to hear why that would not be a classless move.
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I expressed my preference. I don’t happen to see it as apocalyptic, though.
Your last sentence has a certain when did you stop beating your wife tone to it. So I’ll pass on an explanation.
Hey, look, if Kirby isn’t bothered by Richt being there, more power to both men. But if he would prefer to be the only head coach at the banquet, I think that preference should be respected.
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If Kirby is that insecure, maybe he isn’t the man some have made him out to be.
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I don’t think it’s a matter of security, but what do I know?
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If Richt is that unprofessional, maybe he’s not the guy yall think he is.
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It’s not a matter of professionalism, either. I’d be shocked if Richt didn’t care about those kids and wasn’t touched by their request.
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I’m sure he does, but it’s a UGA event and he declined the option to stay around the UGA program and elected to become the head coach at Miami. That’s fine, I’m glad he’s landed on his feet. But he can’t have it both ways. The Seniors at the banquet aren’t the only ones there, the other guys have a new coach now.
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It would seem an important question–Will Kirby be there ? If Kirby is preparing Alabama, I see no problem -might be awkward if both of them were there.
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What is unprofessional about being at a dinner to honor the men who played for 4 years under your leadership? I would ask him not to speak to the recruits on campus out of respect for being on official visits at UGA. I believe the man would respect that wish or not attend. What’s wrong with that?
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Well for one you’re potentially making the Gala about Richt instead of the players. Richt had his farewell meeting with them already. There’s no need to draw it out. The sooner the current players move on and embrace their new coaches, the better. Richt doesn’t need to stick around like an ex girlfriend who still wants to be friends.
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Not that you have ever had a girlfriend to have that happen.
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Really? That the best you can do? How are you enjoying freshman year?
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The only way I can see it being in any way similar to the ‘beating your wife’ question is if you feel that I have not justified why it’s classless. Fair enough: it’s classless because this a banquet for the seniors associated with the season that happened, and Mark Richt was the head coach of that team, and of each of those players for their entire Georgia careers. Kirby Smart has nothing whatsoever to do with any of that other than being the coach for a team that those players will hopefully be pulling for in the future.
I have no problem with only one head coach being at that banquet, but if that is the case, it should be Mark Richt, not Kirby Smart. Similarly, if in 2022 there is a halftime ceremony honoring the 2002 team, the coach on the field should be Mark Richt, not Kirby Smart.
When the banquet is over, so ends any events relevant to the disappointing 2015 edition of the Georgia Bulldogs. Mark Richt will have no need to offend us with his presence afterwards, but if literally everyone at the banquet who matters (the current coaches, the players and himself) wants him there, the athletics department can go f*ck themselves.
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I’m not as worked up about this as you are, so don’t take this the wrong way. Richt said he would like to attend the banquet: “If it doesn’t disrupt the business of getting ready here at Miami, I’ll be there.” So even he admits his new gig has a higher priority than the seniors’ wishes. Why is it okay for him to not attend if it’s not convenient for him to do so, but what’s convenient for his old program doesn’t count?
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Rarely in life is there a specific ‘the right thing’ to do, senator. Just as I think it would be abhorrent to tell Richt he isn’t allowed to come to this event, I think it would be equally abhorrent to compel him to. Neither you nor I know what emotions surround this event, so why not err on the side of letting the people who are involved make the decision? Why is it necessary for us to make it for them?
At the end of the day, they lost. Richt, the players, everyone involved in the 2015 season. No one at the banquet wanted these circumstances, but it was out of their hands. If ever there were an event that falls into the grey area of a transition between head coaches, it is one for the outgoing seniors. Let them decide the attendees as they see fit.
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How are we making the decision for them? We’re just expressing opinions here.
And how are the people left running the program not involved?
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Aren’t you expressing the opinion that Richt should be told by either B-M or the new staff that he is not welcome? I’m still not clear on that, but if so, I don’t understand the difference between that and making the decision for them.
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Actually, I’m hoping Richt does the right thing by gracefully declining the invitation.
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I don’t think he will go. I just think it is another example of him not being willing to tell kids what they need to be told.
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Well then the only difference between you and I is that I don’t see sufficient justification to even have an opinion on the matter. That distinction did not motivate my ire, which came from the suggestion that B-M should say sh*t to Richt about it.
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I think Richt will skip per the request of Donna Shall
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Shalala
autocorrect.
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Actually I would not allow him to attend due to the fact that it is also a big recruiting event for us. We would be stupid to allow the coach of another program (especially one who is/will be recruiting a lot of the same kids) to attend and get free face time.
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“the banquet is 100% about this year, not next year” – The banquet is a big recruiting event. We don’t need the face of Miami football there. What’s got you so bothered about this?
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Just another in a long list of reasons the internet is making college athletics more of a joke. These aren’t newsworthy events, much less something to be editorialized upon.
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Miami is ready when you are, Rick.
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That’s nice, but I’m not a fan of college football period until there has been a cleansing at Butts Mehre. I’m sorry if that offends your pathetic tribalistic sensibilities.
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I don’t think my tribalism is pathetic, and neither does Odin. Praise Odin!
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So why are you still here?
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Not entirely sure why I need to justify myself, but I am still interested in the narrative of the transition because it’s still going on. Don’t worry, precious, my days are numbered.
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I am not a UGA alumnus but I have been emotionally (and financially to the extent of buying tickets, traveling to out of conference away games and bowl sites, and buying UGA merchandise) commited to the Bulldogs since 2003.
Since the firing I must admit i have found myself thoroughly disinterested in College Football in general while picking up interest in Miami football.
I don’t know if I will “transition” into a Miami fan or not, but I do know my apathy is real and even I am a spectator in how it will eventually play out.
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Name names of who specifically needs to go, and why.
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McGarity, for firing the most successful coach in school history (by any metric other than national titles, an extremely noisy variable) to hire a coordinator from the same side of the ball as the head coach, for firing a coach who immediately had more offers and within 2 days was hired by a program that has won 5 national titles since UGA’s last. This firing was unprecedented in the history of the sport as far as I know. If any AD has ever made a mistake, this one is it. Unprecedented moves come only from brilliant innovators and morons, and I doubt McGarity is the former.
I have no idea who else. Like you and all of us, I have limited information, but with that information the depths of McGarity’s incompetence are crystal clear.
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Rick is getting upset! (Costanza Voice)
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Stop! You’re killing independent Rick!
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Of all the scorned Richtites, you have definitely melted down the most spectacularly.
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Perhaps. I admit that I don’t know of anyone else signing off in terms of their interest in the sport. If that makes you happy, good for you, but that makes you a jerk. Hopefully it’s just the internet that induces this in you, but even so it’s a shame. I’m a nice guy, so I’ll be fine. That’s what allows me to voluntarily cease my interest in something that brought me joy – I have plenty to fill the gap.
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Are nice guys always so self-righteous? Don’t get too close to me, St. Rick. I wouldn’t want to get sunburn from your halo.
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Ah, so you think declaring myself to be a ‘nice guy’ is high praise? You have misunderstood. Being nice isn’t special, it should be expected. I think most people are nice. Most people here, for example, are nice.
You are not.
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Wow, talk about doing a 180 and changing the subject. I guess Blutarsky’s point was a slam dunk huh?
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That’s the reason right there. No coaches of other programs at an event where they can be around our recruits. Bug off Richt!
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Richt attending the banquet would be like ripping the band aid off a second time. He has said his goodbyes why does he have to do it again? He won’t attend to busy at the U. His way of declining.
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If Richt wants to come support the seniors that are graduating under his watch, great. If he doesn’t, fine. I don’t want that weasel GM to make the decision regardless. Same for Smart – if he wants to attend, fine. If he doesn’t, please just be in Athens to recruit.
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Richt needs to get lost. Respectfully decline to invite and move on.
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Well, if Kirby can coach Alabama in the playoffs, why can’t Mark come have some dinner?
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Good point. I don’t see any harm in Richt attending a dinner to honor the team he coached this year. I hope in the future Richt will be seen as a welcome figure around Athens. Maybe it will be awkward while he is coaching another program, but he was a DGD. One day I hope we’ll see him honored in some way for his time here.
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I have no doubt he’ll always be revered and brought back for autograph sessions and the like.. but it will come after he’s done at Miami. It won’t be far off from how Spurrier is viewed at Florida after going to SC.
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+1 Kirby is (apparently) not dropping everything to be at UGA. Mountains out of molehills.
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Agree 100%. Kirby is honoring his commitments by finishing the job. I have no problem with that.. I’d like him on the ground in Athens right away, but that’s ok. If they didn’t have a chance at a national championship, I’d feel differently.
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Kirby left the hotel in Atlanta today and went straight out on the road to meet with UGA recruits. I’d say he’s dropped everything for UGA at the moment.
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Yep.
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I hope he can come and give the season awards to the kids who earned them. I know he has enough class to make it about them not him.
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In my opinion, worth what little it is, we often think that “Commit to the G” and The Georgia Way and all that are what this is college sports stuff is about: the university, the wins and losses, the fans who are there year in and year out. But it has been apparent all along that to Mark Richt those things are like the clothes we wear more than the core of what they do. When players talk about how they “would be mad at” Kirby Smart if he didn’t take the UGA job, and players “aren’t right with it” when a coach is let go, you can see that relationships are what they value. This is why we can’t be too worried about recruits not coming here if their position coach/recruiter won’t be here too–this is their professional life at stake and they’re going with the coach who wants them for them, not because the university has a cool tradition. And this is a rough business where someone is always out to take your place…and locations/teams are extremely short for the vast majority of both coaches and players.
When the only coaches in place are from the old regime, as is the case in this situation, coming back is still about relationships the same as was before and will be with the next coach. I see this as expected, not declasse or inappropriate, and frankly this is how it should be, because If it were not the tone would be even more business-like than it already is. The players play for each other, themselves, and their coaches. The program and all associated with it are down the list a bit.
I know a bunch of people will disagree with me about this, but I don’t think it’s hard, based on comments and actions over the years, to see this is they do things whether we want it to be different or not. Personally, I have no problem with it.
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The senior awards banquet is for the seniors. They’ve earned the right to make this call. We don’t matter here.
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Who said anything about we matter?
The awards banquet is also for the program. It’s a big recruiting event.
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Is it possible that having Richt there could help recruiting?
“This is such a good place that even fired coaches don’t want to leave” type thing?
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I’m sure Eason would be impressed by that argument.
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I’m betting Eason ain’t going nowhere.
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I just think we ought to support and not question the senior’s wishes here. There is no reason they should be ignored, questioned, derided, nor is there anything that is inconsistent with the program’s interests, including its interests in recruiting.
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Richt has not denied he will pursue UGA recruits has he?
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He’s already said they’re fair game.
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He hasn’t. If that’s enough for you to tell the seniors to fuck off, we just disagree. If CMR recruits at the senior banquet, we’ll survive it. I think we owe him the benefit of the doubt on this one.
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We don’t owe him a goddamn thing.
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Typical chili. You don’t think anyone is owed your support. That’s why you pulled for our last 6 opponents. You only think YOU are owed something. Some of us can see beyond our own assholes. Your head is so far up there no amount of chili is going to force your head out into the light of day. You are a worthless collection of dna chili.
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The head coach of Miami isn’t owed shit from me or anyone else associated with the University of Georgia. He received all he was owed from UGA, and he has a new employer now. Get over it and move on. Or switch to the Canes. I’d rather you did honestly. But that’s up to you.
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First of all anybody who pulls for the gators, auburn and tech to beat us doesn’t get tell anyone what the fucking rules are. We start with the premise that you are a pos whose views mirror your make up. Second given that you pulled against these same senior’s for your own self interests I think i’d rather they get what they want. They earned it. You’ve earned nothing but hatred for any soul worthy of the oxygen that he or she is currently breathing.
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A: never pulled for any of the teams you say, as you are well aware but continue to lie about hoping that the more you repeat it the more believable it will be. B: your words betray the sort of person you are, and you certainly aren’t in any position to be calling anyone else names. C: you should get help. Between your dark thoughts and compulsive lying, you might have a serious disorder.
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This is what you wrote:
“With Florida now firmly in the driver’s seat, part of me almost hopes we have a few more losses in us so the decision is easier at the end of the year. I don’t want to hear “you can’t fire a coach who wins 8 games” at the end of the year.
Probably won’t take much hoping though. This team has 2010 written all over it.”
I do not abuse your words. You said it. Now let the seniors you just as soon have wiped your ass with have the banquet they want.
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Yep, you’ve quoted that at least a dozen times, and it hasn’t changed. No mention of pulling for Florida, Auburn or Tech in there anywhere.
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You know the most pitiful part of this? You have that quote either memorized or bookmarked on your computer, which in either case just shows how deep your obsession with me is. You really need to get a handle on it.
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Derek, we have a segment of our fan base that I would diagnose with RDS – Richt Derangement Syndrome. Anything about the program becomes an opportunity to take a shot at him. The same people who said he was too nice to be a football coach are now saying he’s evil personified because he landed on his feet somewhere else … Even to the point of accusing him of throwing the most important game of the season to get out of Athens with his buyout. It makes me laugh.
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Just seat him toward the back, near the door to the kitchen.
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Seems to like having that Miami guy…what’s his name?… come for dinner would be a good thing.
See recruits, that older guy over there won a good number of games here, but he did not win enough, so we fired him and now that guy whose defense just kicked Florida back to the stone age is gonna coach here…we are serious about that football shit here in Athens.
Think about it.
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Just hope the new coach can match the old coach record for the first 5 years here. (If he makes it 5 with our new expectations)
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It is not the first 5 years that got CMR fired….it is the last 10.
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This is actually the 100% wrong way to look at it. You need to compare what Kirby does in his first 5 years vs. what you think Richt would have done in years 16-20.
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Calls for speculation – if Kirby is that great of a coach, he’ll meet the first 5 years expectation – 3 championship game appearances and at least 1 SEC championship (Richt had 2). If you look at the last 5 years, it’s still multiple championship game appearances at a minimum.
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3 national championship games, 2 victories, 4 SEC championships in 4 years or howling will be on.
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We can issue him the outback bowl hall of fame plaque while he is there
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I seldom disagree with the Senator, but I think the Seniors deserve him back if that is what they want. In fact, I think trying to overrule this will be far more damaging than having him appear for one night. Kirby is still at Bama…don’t see how it hurts to have him back here for the event.
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I’m falling on this side also, Bob. Unless we want to call bullshit on all of the statements about personal relationships..”this is about building character”,
“I’m concerned about you as a person”, then Richt should probably go to the senior banquet. Any harm or awkwardness is in the eye of the beholder and not a factor to the players who love him and want him there, and MR, who obviously cares about these guys, even enough to ignore perceived protocol and attend.
Compare this to the way some coaches have left their teams without saying goodby…leaving in the middle of the night…or left them sitting at a restuarant table while he flew the coop.
We all criticsized them, right?
Mark R. is different…in a better sort of way.
Although I feel he had fallen back as a nuts and bolts coach, he is still a wonderful man…and that is why his players still love him.
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But even Richt said he won’t be able to attend if there’s too much going on at Miami. Evidently there are limits on how different he is.
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That’s true, Richt just may be preparing for a visit by Eason. That should be a red carpet event for him, LOL.
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Isn’t Eason supposed to be at the gala with his parents? If so, do you keep them away from the Miami coach? What if they insist on saying hello? Would it piss them off if they were told no? Yeah I can see plenty of awkwardness.
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Let Richt come, but someone should tell Jimmy Williamson that his car has a strong odor of weed about it.
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Because nice guys never have to balance their obligations and try to make time between two things competing for their attention.
Sheesh.
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So why doesn’t the school deserve the same consideration?
Sheesh, indeed.
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I guess that depends if you think “senior night” is for the school or for the seniors. I’d hate to let the wishes of these “student athletes” get in the way of important school business like recruiting.
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He’s the fricking coach at Miami. He can go to their banquet. Move on.
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Big recruiting event under normal circumstances but it is the SR Gala. If they want Richt there he should be allowed to come but I bet it doesn’t pan out that way.
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Love CMR but taking the UM job changes things concerning this topic. Athens is enemy territory until he retires
If he wants to see the seniors again, he can fly or drive to their bowl destination and take them out to dinner afterwards.
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It all comes down to whether you think he will say anything harmful to UGA football, if even given a chance to speak. If you don’t think he will, I don’t think his mere presence is harmful. If you really believed he might be whispering to recruits, “You could always follow me to South Beach,” then he shouldn’t be there. I don’t think he will/would.
And this certainly sends no worse message about split allegiances than Kirby working to give Bama’s staff another Natl Champ ring they can flash in our recruits’ faces in future recruiting wars.
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Except Saban wants Smart there to coach through the playoffs.
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Richt is on record saying that current Georgia recruits / targets are fair game to be recruited to Miami.
I don’t blame him for that approach, but he isn’t on our side anymore. Time to move on.
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This is the only reason I think he should decline outright… conflict of interest. Which isn’t to say I think he would take advantage of this event in that way.. but why invite that kind of scrutiny.
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It should be fine. I think showing that UGA is a place for civil adults is a good thing. It’s not like inviting your ex lovers to your wedding.
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perhaps he can sit at the eason’s table.
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Yup, then fly back to Miami with Eason. Nice seating arrangement, just what he is looking for.
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You would think this was an Eisenhower refuses to meet with Jodl moment.
As much I love UGA/College Football, I’m spending more time rolling my eyes at fans. (Myself included) Think I’ll check back about August😂
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I’m right there with you.
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He still has a house in Athens, right? He can host the after-party. Problem solved.
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That’s exactly what I was thinking BD. No one can stop him from throwing an all-day, end of “The Georgia Way” party at his diggs. Invite the whole team and whoever else he wants to come (odds on McGarity’s invite getting lost in the mail == 100%).
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Sorry, but he needs to be off limits to our players from now on. He is coaching and recruiting for Miami and our players have family and friends back home who are looking for a school to sign with. This is not hard to figure out when you realize that Richt is just as full of crap as any other person. Quit thinking he is some kind of saint people.
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I’m beginning to wonder about that class that CMR has.
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You can stop wondering, he’s no different than 99% of people. He was contacting Miami before the UF game, so he didn’t have that much loyalty to Georgia and his players who foolishly love him so much. I’m not sure he didn’t throw the UF game on purpose to make sure he was fired so he could get the money from Georgia. If he had won the UF game, no way he gets fired when he wins the East. If he quits to take the Miami job, no money from Georgia.
He also gave an interview in November where he said he was in Athens for good, that he and Katherine were “digging our heels in…”. It looks like that may not have been a totally honest statement. Maybe he’s not as good and pure and holy as some believe.
He is a coach at another college football program who took recruiting videos with him and has publicly said he will be going after Georgia’s recruits. Letting him come back to any team event would be foolish.
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I don’t think we should say that out loud. We may be castigated for
speaking ill about the great one.
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He did not contact them they contacted him. If we had not fired him he would still be at Georgia. He landed on his feet good for him. Of course he is doing the best job possible for Miami he is loyal. If kids follow him they are doing what feels best to them. Some may follow Kirby here. Those of you who hated Richt need to let it go.
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How can you be certain he wouldn’t have left on his own? We know now his people were talking to Miami months ago. Kind of flies in the face of what he always claimed, that “this was it” for him, that he’d never want to go anywhere else. If that was true, why did he have one eye on the door?
Here’s a thought. Maybe, just maybe, Richt isn’t different from any other coach. His loyalty is to whoever is paying him, and we can’t fault him for that, but we should have no illusions about his connection to UGA either. It died when he left. He’s not going to be a Vince Dooley, hanging around the program growing old.
Less than two dozen people showed up for your “Richt Rally,” by the way.
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That ain’t true. All that happened was that Miami reached out to him after Golden was canned to gauge his interest. He declined the opportunity.
By the way, Richt doesn’t really have “his people” to reach out to.
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These sentences are most telling to me “If it doesn’t disrupt the business of getting ready here at Miami, I’ll be there. Other than that, I’ll be here working.”
I personally think CMR was giving himself a graceful way of declining the invitation. I only see it as a awkward time for all concerned if he were to attend.
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If it doesn’t disrupt the business of getting ready here at Miami. It’s ok if it disrupts the business at UGA I suppose.
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Well look at this… We’re ranked.
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/
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Ironic that we end up ranked but still fired our coach.
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For someone that professed his love for UGA at the press conference, he sure is going out of his way to make UGA be the a-hole. You’re the coach of another program; sorry, you can’t be there.
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GTP has become like a South Park episode with PC Principle. Tow the line bros!
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Sinc the seniors want him there, he should go if he can. Good for him and the team.
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Non-event. Can’t see why everyone is getting so wound up about this.
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Mainly because a lot of the commenters enjoy being pissed off. If it wasn’t this, absolutely guarantee it’s something else.
It’s like, “Hey, I knew all along that MR was an unscrupulous d-bag!”
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I’m not displeased about how Richt lost his job. He did that to himself.
On the other hand, I am unhappy about how Richt losing his job has encouraged a particular type of poster on the best college football blog. They’ve made it worse. It’s now less “best blog” and more “better than the other blogs.” I’m really considering reinstating the no-checking-the-comments policy I followed back in October and keeping with it indefinitely.
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yep. I have read for a long time without commenting. comment some now, but there are the trolls who enjoy being pissed about most anything or other posters.
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continued ,has made me definitely decide I would go with Stonekettle Station rules, if I ever start a blog.
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Richt will not show up. Even the proprietor of this site knows that. suckers you all are.
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I suspect that John Theus or Malcolm Mitchell can invite anyone they want to the Gala. Shit, they can invite Paul Johnson if they wish. Likewise, Paul Johnson is just like chilidawgnv; both can buy a ticket and attend without taking a blood oath to a UGA. No one will be tackling any guest and tossing them out the door.
If Smart is the great coach he is cracked up to be the football program will be fine regardless of who attends.
What an overblown issue.
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This opinion comes from a guy who thought Richt deserved an opportunity to coach at UGA for a full 4 year of recruiting, with full support by the administration, so take it for what it’s worth.
I don’t think he should be there. He’s the head coach of Miami. That being said, someone in Miami probably has a nice video camera. Let him videotape a brief comment to the seniors, thanking them for their efforts and perseverance. maybe even coax a Go Dawgs out of him.
Not that hard a solution.
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Senator ,If Chili is on your side you would be well advised to reconsider your position.
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