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Get The Picture · Bloviation for the Dawgnation
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Forget how long each lasts….who exits (whenever that may be) looking less like an idiot. I think we all know the answer……
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to quote EDSBS, all hail the new HBC: Hola, bienvenidos calamidad!
Muschamp couldn’t draw flies offensively with Florida’s recruiting base. So, naturally, he’s going to be gangbusters with the gold mine of college talent in S Carolina. Smart is inheriting an NFL roster compared to what Spurrier left the new HBC.
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And why does Clemmons seem to get talent while everyone says SC can’t get talent because of…..
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Dabo. The HBC may have like d to tweak Dabo, but the recruiting system he has installed at Clemson is what showed SOS the door.
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Clemson pays better.
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b/c they recruit Georgia QB’s that UGA doesn’t
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My opinion, as to your question, is that Dabo gets a lot of out of state recruits, not just leftovers from Georgia.
My actual point was that Boom couldn’t recruit offensive players from a vastly larger, deeper pool of talent at a school with a lot bigger name. Why would anyone think he can go to a lesser brand, with a much smaller and shallower recruiting base, and think he’s going to start pulling aces right out of the deck? I’m sure the magic of OC Kurt Roper will be a big help to him, though, even as it was in Gainesville (maybe Charlie Weis was too busy rolling around on a bed full of $100s to take the gig)
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Well, Muschamp only needs to make a bowl game every couple of years for the Cocks to be satisfied…Smart has to win championships…
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Could not disagree more. They tasted success with those 10-11 win seasons. Even the SCU president said he now expects to compete for SECE/SECC titles yearly.
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Nobody in the modern era had coached there more than 8 years until Spurrier. They may have no history, but they have always had expectations to be better than they are.
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Hard to imagine that USC is looking at any better than 4th as the norm and possibly the ceiling and for a while. If Will stays at 4th in the east with an occasional top 3 they ought to be content, but I’m sure that they won’t be. Given that Eason is on the way, I’d say the biggest danger for CKS is what happened to CMR. Not living up to his own initial successes.
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Were the shoe on the other foot, ADGM hiring Boomer rather than Smart, I’d be saying “What the…?
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I thought that when Foley hired him.
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“Moe made a real good observation of Will Muscahmps……his eyes are set too close together.”
Isn’t that the same reason OBC put Ron Morris on double-secret probation
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Why are Smart and Muschamp described as off the Saban coaching tree? Shouldn’t they be considered off the Ray Goff coaching tree?
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Goff wasn’t a tree. He was a stump.
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Boom was a chomp
“The covers of this book are too far apart.” A. Bierce
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A lot of copies should be at Goodwill, Salvation Army and other thrift stores around Gainesville and the rest of FL.
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Or maybe just in the garbage.
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The ‘Decided Schematic Advantage’ of that book is that it became a collector’s item when Jeremy did an early abort on Boom’s mission in Hogtown
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With Boom as the author, I expect the entire book to be in all caps.
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There’s always the burst aneurysm factor to consider.
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If you thought the commenters on an AUC blog were idiots, take a quick look at the comments section of that al.com blog. It make AUC commenters look like Mensa members.
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LOL. I was thinking a similar thought.
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Well we know one can not succeed as head coach, and we are getting ready to find out about the other.
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Some people say that you learn more from failure than success. Both are good coaches but one has more experience. I am sure Smart will make some mistakes that Muschamp has already made. The expectations are out if control at Georgia.
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Ummm, I don’t see anyone here with out of control expectations. I think there’s optimism, but there’s also a lot realism here about the lack of head coaching experience and the roster he inherits.
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Isn’t 10 wins the floor for this program next year?
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No…you misunderstand. The Auburn model of 3 – 8, Natty, 3 – 8 is now the standard we’ve adopted.
Keep up.
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I am sorry, SC has already committed to this model. We are going on year 2.
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Muschamp by a mile, and not necessarily because he’s a better coach. I’d probably give him an edge over Smart’s expectation, but not by much, and Smart has a far higher ceiling because he’s a total mystery.
USC hasn’t fired a coach this century, and they already know what Muschamp’s floor is, so it will take a lot for him to get the axe.
We’re banking on Smart being an improvement over Mark Richt, as Bill Connely’s article noted, that’s a very difficult task. Not impossible, but lightyears harder than the expectations Muschamp faces. On the plus side, no one questions Smart’s recruiting chops, so he should at least leave the cupboard full for his successor.
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“On the plus side, no one questions Smart’s recruiting chops, so he should at least leave the cupboard full for his successor.”
Way to think ahead 🙂
If they put Kirby on Richt Standard Time that will happen somewhere around 2030
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As everyone around here probably knows by now, if Kirby has Richt Standard Results I’ll be on board for keeping him far past 2030. If he is more in line with Donnan/Goff/Muschamp/Zook/Dooley/Kiffin/Jones/Tuberville/Chizik/Malzahn, you may fire when ready.
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Gus Malzahn has coached Auburn for 3 seasons and has an SEC Championship and an appearance in the National Championship game. I don’t think he should be counted out just yet.
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I would say the ceiling for Smart is higher as long as he does not line up equal to Donnan and Goff years.
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The ceiling for Smart is Bear Bryant. That’s the beauty of a mystery box.
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I will be happy if CKS ‘s first five years are equal to CMR’s first five years. I think most here would agree. After that, he will need to pick it up. 🙂
I think Muschomp stays 4 years.
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If UGA had hired that asshole Boom, that would have been the end of me being a supportive fan, a (small) donor to UGA, and a proud alumni.
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I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say I was ecstatic when I found out that the rumors of Muschamp being our DC proved to be just that.
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I don’t think Muschamp will last all that long there—I give him 3 years. After all, at his initial PC, the president of SCU boldly said that he expects to compete for the SECe/SECC starting next year. Talk about inflated and unrealistic expectations.
SOS created those unrealistic expectations with those back to back 10-11 win seasons, mostly with in-state talent (clowney, lattimore, etc.) that only comes along once in a generation (not to mention that Clemson was still ‘down’ at the time when that happened.) Now Clemson has gained momentum; same for UNC/Fedora where SCU often gets much of their talent. Oh, and there is some Smart fella at UGA who apparently is pretty good at recruiting too.
In the end, I’ll be shocked beyond all belief if Muschamp succeeds there. Instead, I see him flaming out quite quickly yet never losing his fake bravado…and soon after another sucker AD will fall for his shtick and hand him yet another golden parachute.
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Lots of complex factors. What if Saban cashes out? What if Dabo goes to Bammer? Then Boom lasts a lot longer. What if ADGM is fired? Then who becomes the AD along with the championships becomes critical. There are so many scenarios that I see Muschamp lasting longer that I believe the odds are in his favor.
On the other hand, there are no scenarios where I see “Boom’s” record being better than Kirby’s. Kirby will be winning a lot, though that doesn’t mean he will be staying longer. The expectations are in the stratosphere, Right or wrong that is where they are.
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What is the level above the stratosphere? That is where the expectations are. Some people already bitching about Smart. If he does not win a NC by the third year, there will be a very upset element. As you stated right or wrong that is where they are.
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Any chance we’ll see Mike Bobo as the USC HBC in a few years?
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Colorado State coaches could substitute for Boom around just like Butch Jones substitutes for Brian Kelly
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I don’t think any of y’all are looking at this right. BM hired Smart. BM is eating a bunch of coach contracts as we speak. It’s going to be a while before BM is willing to cut more checks, so Kirby outlasts Agent Muschamp easily, unless he is an unmitigated disaster, and there’s just too much talent to be that bad here.
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If Boom had not changed OC’s like most pepole change underwear, he would have lasted longer at UF. Gayturds like their offense and Foley has caught on. It remains to be seen if Boom can get it. At USCe he at least will have a window given how bad they were last year. Kirby will be given a window because the money guys are now all in and they don’t want any egg on their faces. Eason will be the litmus test on the patients of the fans and the money guys. If he is thrown to the SEC wolves too soon it could get ugly fast. Trust me the boy has not played against 300 lb DLman that run faster than he does. It will take some getting used to. I’ll be watching the All-Star game to see if he can perform against all the talent that awaits him.
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Each fanbase has a cadre of crazies who think their school should win the SEC every year and if not, well the coach MUST be incompetent. Georgia just fired a guy who averaged fractionally under 10 wins per season over a 15 year period. Kirby Smart won’t be winning 10 games per year. The bar is lower for Boom, although still too high, but the resources are less, too. Both get canned within 5 years, tops.
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Richt wasn’t fired for 9 wins, it was the way he went 9 wins.
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Win the SEC every year? Sure. That is why the Georgia crazies fired Richt. Pardon me while I go beat my head against a wall somewhere.
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Georgia just fired a guy who had not won anything of consequence in 10 years and generally lost very badly when he faced good competition. All wins and losses are not created equal.
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“Trust me the boy has not played against 300 lb DLman that run faster than he does.”
I’d love to know what what goes through his head the first time he does! (I don’t want to be in his shoes….. I’d just love to know what he’s thinking…. Ha)
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This entire thought process bothers me; I hope both coaches do well as they were damn good dawgs when playing here; both kind of rankled some folks with Kirby not coming home to be the DC and Boom with the crap he had to say about Georgia at both Florida & Carolina, but I still hope they both succeed as former dawgs. I think the coaching hires are going to be significant. I wish we knew if Tracy Rocker was being retained for Smart’s staff. If Boom manages to get some of our coaches who are good recruiters, Carolina could land some good classes and again be a thorn in our side because these guys have shown they can recruit anywhere in the Southeast. Gonna be interesting.
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Yea, I don’t care to guess on how long it takes for a guy to get fired. I will state that I think smart will be granted a minimum of 6 years, if he wins some nice games it will be 8 and if there are a couple east titles then it would be 10.
The real threat to him/them is the way coordinators have gotten so dominant, if he chooses a bad hire in a coordinator he will need to make the adjustment quickly. That’s where the new “thing” is, the HC is more insulated, the volatile jobs are OC and DC.
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The volatile jobs are the OC and DC……….yeah they may be volatile, but the buck stops at the HC’s desk.
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Smart, mainly because UGA showed with Richt, that given the right level of success the administration will be infinitely patient.
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