Hoo, boy.
Overall 27.9 passing grade was the lowest single game grade in the @PFF_College era
The two closest – both in 2015:
– 30.8 grade with Faton Bauta vs Gators
– 31.5 grade with Lambert/Ramsey vs BamaThat & more on this week's #BulldogsByTheNumbershttps://t.co/PpBIFlOLhQ https://t.co/pWcqv5k8ck
— Brent Rollins (@BrentRollinsPhD) November 10, 2020
I really didn’t need to see that.
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“We remember the Sugar Bowl, I think it my junior year of high school, we let Alabama beat us twice,” Brinson said of a team that also lost to the Crimson Tide in the SEC Championship game. “We’re not letting Alabama beat us twice. In the Sugar Bowl in 2018, they… thought they should have been in the playoffs and lost to Texas.” -- AB-H, 12/27/23
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“Kirby is on this”
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I refuse to believe a gimpy Daniels or a true freshman Beck are worse than this.
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Concur, I mean….. “what do you have to lose”
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And also – how much worse could it really be?
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Like, literally.
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They are worse or at least unprepared or they’d be playing.
Just like Dwan.
A fair question is, should Kirby go to the “throw away season” mindset and start one of the youngsters?
That’s debatable and I don’t really even have an opinion on it. I don’t see the whole picture like the coaches do.
I guess I see the season as already having been a big disappointment. Sometimes things go that way.
To be honest, I wasn’t happy to see SB get hurt on a cheap shot, but when Mathis came in, I was really hoping for something good to blossom. It didn’t.
I’ll watch for the entertainment and to pull for the Dawgs. Maybe they’ll be looking great in a few weeks.
Pressures off for the season…just have some fun.
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Some have suggested that it was already a throw away season and that Kirby didn’t play Daniels or Beck to keep from losing Vandagriff.
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It appears, and keep in mind that the QB situation is a bit murky, that JT isn’t healthy enough to play and Beck wasn’t being developed to start mid season.
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Trask just stood there all day throwing. JT could do that. New rule, no running, handoff or pass from drop back only.
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Disappointing how the backers never adjusted to the wheel route.
Bunch of injuries on ‘D, but overall was disappointed on defense. I thought Davis being out was major, he makes the entire ‘D work.
With or without Davis, thinks the defense rebounds. We always have a chance if they play well imo.
Offense, it is just broken & needs to be fixed. Don’t look for any improvement 2020.
“Munsoning” here, but hoping for the best, but expect some more struggles this year.
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Davis had me worried as heck. If you want to do a 4 man, you got to have him.
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Yeah they gashed us running up the gut.
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We were missing Davis and Lecount. You can’t lose that kind of leadership and talent midseason and not expect it to affect the defense.
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Last week everyone thought Mathis was better than this. Last year some thought Stetson would be better than Fromm. It just isn’t as easy as the great ones make it look.
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That is true. However, what we’ve seen the last 2.5 games from our No. 1 and No. 2 QBs is epically bad at a historic level of suck.
We know Daniels is good in a similar offense (not to manball offense of his freshman year, but Harrell’s Air Raid the first half of the first game his sophomore year).
So I like someone else’s idea: Have him take pistol snaps and throw or hand off to run. Do away with zone reads. Daniels can throw with accuracy to our open receivers. We know he can. So let him do that.
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For all the shit Kirby is catching lately, there just ain’t much to work with there.
Hoo boy…that’s really bad.
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Yes, and it shows that our eyes weren’t lying to us. It was bad. (And after I still had hope after that initial 80 yard drive of D’wan’s!!)
Oh well. At least we aren’t Penn State.)
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State Penn is the sub-basement….
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That shoveling sound you hear is Kirby digging his own grave.
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Get the fuck out with that shit, man. That shoveling sound is my neighbor digging a bunker to protect his family from when my head explodes from reading all this chickenshit snivelers continue to write.
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Nattering nabobs of negativity…
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Ed, is that you?
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Ha, I met Spiro a few times after he was out of office and I was a young pup. Of course, the late William Safire was the author of that speech/line.
Good times.
The more things change, the more they truly stay the same.
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Ed Tant was who I had in mind. That blast from my past was never above borrowing a good line.
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they are just a bunch of trolls
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Only if you let’em
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I’m not sniveling. I’m commenting hyperbolically, with humorous intent, on UGA’s lack of a functional QB.
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I’m not dealing well with my frustration that our QB situation is what it is.
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LOL!….he is just “Munsoning”
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Exactly!
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I need to chill out.
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Me, too.
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You’re good, it’s all entertaining. Pretty sure we are all on the same team.
Just see things differently some times.
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That’s true.
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Munson was filled with hopeful anxiety not resigned negativity. There is a big difference.
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Amen Derek one of your better comments.
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I knew you would be here to straighten me out….cause, that is what you do – straighten people out.
You’re good like that.
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Beneath my veneer of resigned negativity lies a deep well of hopeful anxiety.
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I tried to explain this on another blog for 10 years. He added stress to the moment bc radio. He did not say our team sucked.
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Fuck YOU, Ranger Russ, you mouth-breathing moron. Kirby has done NOTHING to improve UGA from the high point of CMR’s tenure. He’s getting paid $6 million per year to provide better results, his ROI is negative.
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You know the difference in someone like you and someone awesome like Ranger Russ?
Ranger Russ attacks the argument. Even with strong words, he’s attacking the argument and a state of mind.
You and others like you here attack the person. It’s what you’ve done and continued to do since you came here. Now, we all do that from time to time, no one is infallible, but with you, the ad hominem attack seems to be your chief form of disagreement.
We’re not gonna miss you.
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A Marine probably stole his girlfriend and he gets over emotional on this day.
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Ooo rah!!! 245 years old and don’t look a day over 223!
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Still going strong…Call a Marine instead of 911!
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I went in 54 years ago today on my 17th birthday. At the induction station in Chicago they were going down the line of draftees, Army, Marines, Army, Marines. I’m from a Navy/Marine family but I joined the Army andbecame a dogface!
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Happy Birthday to the United States Marine Corps! Some of my best friends and the enemy’s dreaded nightmare.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Alright, sweetpea. Have it your way.
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Except, youre wrong. “NOTHING” there, is incorrect.
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Tell me Clark – how exactly does it feel to be completely full of shit?
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He didn’t take over from Richt’s high point
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Forget it he’s rolling.
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Lighten up Francis.
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With all this negativity I feel like I’m watching TV News and not reading a football blog. Let’s call timeout – regroup and support the team and coaching staff.
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I do feel the results should get better each week, if only because each opponent from here on out gets worse…
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Let’s look on the bright side: we all have leisure enough to comment on a post on a UGA blog at 10:42 on a Tuesday morning.
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I am doing computer based training, works out well. lol.
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Ain’t that the damn truth, Munsoning. I never thought I’d have it this easy. Plus I’m feeling much better now since ol JR reminded me to breathe through my nose.
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He forgot to add neck beard, so you knew to shave your neck.
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He is my precious.
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I was thinking you’re the ONE guy I’d take into the bunker with me when the sh*t hits the fan, but then I realize you’d never dive into the bunker but be out front, behind the lines, doing your thing. Thanks for our service!
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It was my pleasure, sir. That’s very kind of you.
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Yeah, life isn’t too bad. I have to laugh at myself for getting so worked up about something over which I have no control.
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The offense has clearly not found any consistent rhythm throughout the year. I don’t imagine Kirby or Monken had any idea in August that SBIV would be running the show at this point of the season.
The defense has really struggled when they haven’t gotten pressure on the QB. All of the injuries have also caught up to us on that side of the ball (that 2nd quarter on Saturday is the worst performance in a quarter by our defense since the Ole Miss game in 2016, IMO).
Camarda had a bad day on Saturday when we needed every drive to end with a good kick.
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The D was awful for sure Saturday in that 2nd quarter….I get injuries..but they had 38 at the half. D, JD.
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It was a disaster in pretty much every category. But not being able to complete a 10 yard pass is beyond the pale.
At end of half, with Kirby making no sense if he is trying to run the clock or got get points, as is his usual style, no seriously, that shit is getting old, the inevitable shanked punt, that was it. Wheels were off the bus and no one was driving.
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I don’t want to pull up the drive-by-drive numbers, but other than the 3-and-out on their first possession and the pick-6, I think every drive ended in the endzone, or maybe a FG. And it was like 60% wheel routes.
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The people blaming Kirby for this aren’t worth arguing with… don’t waste your time.
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Its Kirby’s fault that you feel that way.
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I guess the question is who is to blame. Is it Jamie Newman? That’s some serious scapegoating (although he has brought some of that on himself now that he’s playing in the Senior Bowl). Is it SBIV? I don’t think even he expected to take a meaningful snap this season. Is it Monken? I don’t think he expected to become the football version of The Miracle Worker back when he took the job.
There’s only one name left … Kirby. I’m not calling for his head on a platter, but the last 3 games have really shaken my confidence in him.
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Kirby, Fromm & Newman in that order.
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Why in the world is Fromm to blame other than the fact he decided to leave when every other rising 4th year player can try his luck with the NFL? Did he get bad advice and/or incomplete information prior to making his decision? Yep, that doesn’t mean he’s to blame for the QB situation now just because he ended up as a 5th rounder.
Newman? Sure, he gets some of the blame due to the timing of his decision. The staff was preparing him to be the starter, and he decided to bail. Once again, that leaves one name … Kirby.
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You asked, I answered…who knows? In reality, it’s on the head Coach for sure, it appears we agree….that said, we ain’t beating the good teams giving up the amount of points we have been in those games. I don’t care who the QB is.
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Rationally blame Jake? No…but at an emotional level it does feel right. Part of why Fields left was that he was worried he’d have to sit behind Fromm not just for 2019, but 2020 as well (Fromm had good numbers, but wasn’t a sure-fire first rounder, and the assumption was a guy who was Aaron Murray-sized would also play 4 years). Then Fromm regressed, Coley was a terrible OC, while Fields was a Heisman finalist. Then Kirby replaces the OC, and Fromm still leaves…as a 5th rounder, and now it’s pretty clear that he could have easily improved his draft stock playing under Monken.
Jake still has $500,000 or more he wouldn’t if he’d stayed, but oh my do I get the blaming Fromm takes.
Also the Kirby blame, if he really didn’t tell Jake Monken was coming aboard
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While you’re blaming all of the woes on him, I wonder if you’d like to give him some credit for a lot of good things he’s done? Georgia has been a top 5 program for most of his tenure. It’s been a tough year with a lot of bad breaks. Most of them are not Kirby’s fault. Some may be, but this is getting ridiculous.
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I’ve been a big supporter of Kirby after being very skeptical of hiring him as head coach with no prior head coaching experience. Has he built the roster beyond our wildest expectations? Yep except at QB. He has not had a good answer since Newman opted out (bad break) for this year. Has he built a defense that is worthy of the Junkyard Dawg moniker and would make Erk proud? Yep, but he hasn’t unlocked the combination of having a great offense combined with the stifling defense.
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I don’t blame Fromm. At first I was depressed because I thought it indicated he thought another year was useless…..not sure if it was pre-Monken or what. Then when Covid hit, and the season was in major jeopardy, I thought: “i bet he’s glad he’s at least getting paid for this.” Fromm seems way out there on a blame scale. If anything, I’d say I’m frustrated we couldn’t keep him not that he made some super dumb decision, even if he could have done well with Monken.
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He left before the hiring of Monken was official. I have to imagine if Kirby had hired him prior to Fromm’s decision, Monken’s first official visit would have been with Jake and his family to show him what he had in mind.
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Fromm left because of prayers and also because of agents. Nothing was changing that. Remember all that 2nd rounder BS? If you believe you can get drafted 1st or 2nd, you leave minus very rare exceptions.
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I see no lies here.
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What should he have done differently?
I’ve read kirby should have “sized up” Newman.
Some “think” we don’t throw it enough.
Some say we should have gotten King when we already had Newman when king became available.
Some say “keep Fields!” How?
Some “think” we should have gotten a five star signed up when Fromm was a starting soph and Fields was a freshman.
Should he have medically cleared daniels sooner?
Should he have anticipated covid?
I just don’t know what in all of this he could have reasonably done more.
Its seems to me that had he not gotten Fields or Newman he’d be better off, but those are recruiting successes that are a strange thing to blame someone for.
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Lots of stories flying around about JT Daniels….botched knee surgery at USC ….possible law suits because of it…that’s the surgery UGA had cleaned up this year….
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Blaming USCw works.
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hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Interesting. And man that fits a lot of stuff.
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UGA didn’t have anything to do with the “clean up” surgery. That was done in early 2020 before Daniels even announced his intention to enter the portal.
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I thought something was done in the summer here….
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I personally think he should have reopened the QB competition after the Alabama game when it became apparent that SBIV wasn’t going to be the QB who was going to beat Bama in a rematch. I don’t have anything other than Kirby’s words (This is Stetson’s team now) as something to hang my hat on. I am convinced Daniels would have been the first off the bench in Fayetteville if he had been medically cleared (and I have no idea how SBIV is considered a better options than a 5-star and former starter who is cleared to play). I am also convinced Beck isn’t playing because Kirby doesn’t want to give Vandagriff an excuse to look around if Beck were to be successful. Mathis clearly hasn’t proven his readiness to run the offense in the games in which he has appeared.
Therefore, by default, you are left with SBIV.
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Kirby: This is Stetson’s team now.
Me: /big eye looking around gif
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I don’t buy the Beck argument for one minute. If you believe that then the reason Daniels isn’t playing is the same reason Beck isn’t. Which means Kirby thinks this is a throwaway season anyway and the fans will understand. Judging by the responses on GTP and other sites, that answer is no.
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Apparently Daniels got most or all the snaps with the ones today and Kirby was impressed with his accuracy and knowledge of the offense, but is worried about his mobility (which means the zone reads go out the window).
Kirby knows if Daniels starts on Saturday and is better than Bennett and Mathis, there will be a riot in the fanbase, and the donors who secured his job for him are going to be super pissed off and begin to start questioning his decision-making as head coach. Some of that will be fed by the Justin Fields Saga, regardless of how stupid it would’ve been to sit the 3rd best QB in CFB for a true freshman that didn’t know the offense we ran in 2018, but nonetheless, this is the bed Kirby has made for himself by not taking the two weeks between Bama and Kentucky to get Daniels ready.
He did it to himself.
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All I’m saying is there was buzz about Beck in the preseason, and now he’s never mentioned. Why? Did he all of a sudden stop improving or did Kirby want to tamp down any buzz about him?
I’m totally speculating when I say what I have about Beck. Maybe he can’t hit the broad side of a barn.
The difference between Daniels and Beck is that Daniels will probably enter the draft after the 2021 season. Beck has 3+ seasons in front of him. If Beck plays the last 5 games (including the bowl game) and wins the job entering 2021, would Vandagriff be willing to stick around multiple years (the Justin Fields scenario all over again)?
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Bauta should have been a lesson learned for all the armchair quarterback out there. Coaches don’t start players for a reason and they have no obligation to tell the fans those reasons. Its like when a team recruits some kid who’s an all world track star and and these dummies are asking why the coach aint paying him. Maybe the kid can’t fucking catch. I don’t know whats worse, watching us get the shit kicked out of us or reading these stupid comments about COACHIN!
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Now explain why Matt Landers still gets meaningful snaps when he doesn’t seem to care enough about catching the ball to extend his arms to the point where his elbows lock-out?
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It’s not my job to explain to you why players play the way they do. Maybe you should work on getting your press credentials and ask Kirby why Landers isn’t playing up to your standards.
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MY standards? Surly you jest. Pardon me that I destroyed your argument by pointing out players other than our terrible QBs who are getting regular playing time when they suck by ANYONE’S standards.
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Are you drinking again?
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I don’t usually agree with you, but that’s a pretty good question.
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Yea, we shouldnt really ever talk about a game or have blogs or ESPN or anything. Shut up and color MF.
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Surprised someone with a 2″ vertical could jump that far to a conclusion.
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child please.
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What’s the whole point in being a “fan”(atic) on a college football blog if the only thing for us to do is “shut up and deal with it ?” That works when you’re kicking everyone’s ass and on the road to winning championships. Fans bitching or salivating about their team’s play is part of the reason this level of the game has grown popular enough that a person like Kirby Smart can command around $7million per year. It’s part of the job description….. and right now, “shut up and cheer” is a bold play bordering on misreading the room. And it’s a pretty big damn room.
The Fields thing had been water under the bridge for me for a long time. But I’m just not sure you can blame a fanbase that doesn’t have 100% trust in [what Kirby is under no obligation to tell us, as you said]. We watched Fields go from “trust us, he’s not ready for primetime” to 8 months later coming out of the gate in a full gallop onto the national scene. I would have never in my life put Fields in before Fromm and I never second guessed the decision at the time …….. but Georgia pays me exactly $0 to make that decision. But maybe that was the $7million decision. It’s sure as shit looking like it.
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I’m not suggesting to people on this blog that they have no right to complain. The issue is with what they are choosing to complain about. A large portion of this room seem to think Kirby should have pulled the crystal ball out of his ass when Fields was here to somehow keep him. Like benching Fromm after he takes us to NC game as a freshman and nearly wins. Then predict how Corona what going to effect the Newman situation. Give SBIV growing pills and accuracy lotion but before that he should have done the Mr. Miyagi hand rub knee slap miracle to get Daniels 100%.
I personally think Kirby has done a great job here other than some questionable calls in some questionable scenarios. Lots of people just can’t accept that shitty things just happen without some guy behind the curtain pulling certain strings just to ruin their Saturday. Its why conspiracy theories are so popular.
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Or it gets the hose again.
I’m weary of being hosed.
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Re the Bauta comment, is Kirby angling for a new job? 🙂
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CMR starts Faton Bauta out of the blue for no reason for a record bad game – gets him fired!
Kirby – hold my beer.
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“& finally, what does the future look like in Athens?”
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Don, I was thinking more You Can’t Always Get What You Want.
But that’s just football.
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Boop, sha-doo-bee
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At least Kirby lets Mathis and Bennett actually keep the ball on the read. Unlike Bauta. So there’s that. Baby steps here at Georgia.
Also, if a 16 point win was all Florida could eek out against this Georgia team, the SEC championship beat down at the hands of Alabama is going to be some fine, fine viewing. It will be utterly sublime. I cannot wait to see that.
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I was really big on Bauta for some read plays for years. We all heard about his legs. He had, well, big legs. lol. That was utterly confusing.
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Not surprised.
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I think Florida sat on the ball the second half a little bit. Same with Bama. Both could have scored more but they knew with our offense they didn’t need to.
As for Bauta, I was okay starting him in Florida. But when he ran the exact same offense (no zone reads or RPOs) that was coaching malpractice.
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Exactly. If he wasn’t going to run, why put him in?
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We’re stuck with it for this season. If anyone was better, I’m sure they’d be playing. It’s just really frustrating watching our receivers run open all game and no one can get the ball to them.
Swing passes and toss sweeps? Wild Dawg? Who knows? Wing T?
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Hypothetically, if Daniels or Beck plays Saturday and lights it up…
People are going to be even more pissed.
Kirby’s in kind of a no-win position right now.
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At least I wouldnt feel like I do watching us now.
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“Where the hell was this last week?! You telling me this guy couldn’t go 7 days ago?!”
Would be an epic fusion of relief and anger. Does a word for that even exist in the English language?
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Theres a word for everything in German i am told
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There’s also a first time for everything.
As in, “This is the first time (fill in the name) was ready to play”.
It obviously hasn’t arrived yet for the kids that all of you arm chair coaches just know will bring the magic.
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Ah, the need to take a shot. Thanks, I wasnt clear on my coaching status, but thanks to you, I’ve gotten it straight. So now that youve done your duty, you can go fuck off.
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That means Mathis if SBIV isn’t available. He had a chance to make the change with the moved bye week and didn’t do it for whatever reason. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that all of our goals were still attainable after the Alabama game, so he didn’t want to risk it. Now, there’s nothing to play for other than pride and a possible top 10 ranking.
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Kirby at this point is playing to impress recruits and hold onto guys he might be worried about transferring (which is also recruiting).
That starts with Ws, but if you can ID the negative recruiting narratives, Kirby’s game plans will be built around dispelling them.
Nothing wrong with that, and at some level, it’s smart management.
You’ve identified some probable Kirby motivations on the BV front. I guarantee you there are 20 other guys on the recruiting radar getting the same focus.
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30-43 474 yards 4 TD
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Ouch man please, that hurts.
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24-32 417 yards 4 TD
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If we are accepting that these are acceptable and expected results anytime we play a viable offense, then we are going to need to have a offense that scores 45-50 Points a game consistently against top opponents.
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it doesnt happen in a vacuum. TOs, which we are sucking at, shanked punts, not at least flipping the field, not scoring off a TO, giving up multiple bombs (that also needs to stop, used to be Kirby’s strength), on and on
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I understand.
But we had an abysmal performance in Kentucky on offense, but the defense did not yield 40.
Viable offenses shred our defense and that is an issue.
Do you have any doubt Ole Miss would hang 40 on us?
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Bauta & Lambert. 1 QB got Richt officially fired, another QB lead Kirby to his 1st win. 5 years later and this is where the starting QB comparison has come to? My, my, somewhere Richt cannot help chuckling silently.
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The covid has em dropping like flies. None of this shit may mean a goddamn thing. FIDO
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I can see no reason to play on or count any of the results thus far as “official.”
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I’m no prophet but it felt like this season was doomed before it began. Big10 is out then back in. Ditto with the PAC12. How was the CFP committee ever going to legitimately identify four worthy teams? Never made sense to me. I’ve viewed all this as televised entertainment, not my beloved Dawgs playing for glory. The only reason we are discussing games, past and future, is money. They have to be played. The revenue stream has to flow.
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