The Stetson Bennett dilemma…

… isn’t really a dilemma in the mind of Kirby Smart.  For him, Stetson was just placed in the wrong setting Saturday.

“I think he did some really nice things [Saturday night]. We go and reevaluate everything all the time, but he played well. It’s a tough environment we put him in defensively, and we have to be able to run the ball and have a little bit of semblance of balance. I felt like there were times [Saturday night] where we were getting into a scoring contest because our defense didn’t get stops, and you don’t want to have to do that.”

The reason you don’t want to have to do that, in part, is because Bennett doesn’t process the field well enough when he’s under pressure.  Just ask him; he’ll tell you ($$).

Bennett referred to “mental lapses” by the offense.

“When you do that, they make you pay,” he said.

Asked if he felt “off” at times in the game, he said, “No, I felt fine. The first (interception) was a bad decision. The second one, I didn’t see the safety driving. Like I said, you can’t have those two plays against players like this. They made us pay for it.”

Bottom line for Kirby is, if the defense plays better, Stetson Bennett is more than serviceable for Georgia’s needs.  And it’s quite likely he’s right about that.  Michigan’s passing game is respectable, but they’re 31st in yards per attempt versus Alabama’s sixth.  (In passer rating, it’s 40th versus 4th.)  They’re not built to stress Georgia’s secondary the way the Tide did.  But even if Smart is right about the next game, he’s still going to have to guess which way things go in the ‘Bama rematch.

118 Comments

Filed under Georgia Football, Strategery And Mechanics

118 responses to “The Stetson Bennett dilemma…

  1. mg4life0331

    Yeah we had 17 points until the 4th quarter and it’s the defenses fault…..

    We don’t make it this year I think I’m just gonna start putting my funds back into my golf game.

    Liked by 1 person

  2. CB

    Commenters note. Graham Coffey said in a public tweet the JT Daniels to the portal is pretty much a done deal. So that sucks. This qb situation is apparently what we’re stuck with now at least until the Spring.

    I had hope that some serious self reflection and film review would lead Kirby and staff to use the next few weeks to install JT as the starter.

    Looking like it’s going to be another squandered title opportunity. Third one in a decade by my count.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Care to link to that tweet? I don’t see it anywhere in his twitter history.

      Like

    • Hogbody Spradlin

      CB, would you mind embedding the tweets that say it’s a done deal. I saw few hints by Coffey but nothing that definite.

      Like

    • CB

      It’s a conversation thread. He doesn’t come right out and say it, but it seems pretty definitive.

      Like

      • CB

        Like

        • CB

          Like

          • mddawg

            The initial tweet he was replying to mentioned the draft or the transfer portal. So Coffey’s reply could refer to the draft rather than the portal. Maybe JTD made a “business decision” and decided he’d rather sit out and not risk getting injured or aggravating his already-existing injury? That doesn’t seem like a wise decision to me but what do I know.

            Like

            • CB

              Could be a Jamie Newman type of deal. I actually missed the draft part. Either way he wouldn’t be at Georgia. Draft would make more sense at this point. I’ll hold out hope that it’s all BS. Guess we’ll see.

              Like

      • Yeah, I see it in that thread where Coffey hints at that being a fact and apparently it isn’t just about QB evaluation….

        Wonder if THAT was the real reason that Jordan Palmer, his QB coach, came to Athens a few weeks ago.

        Like

      • Yeah, I can see how a tweet that starts off “What if” and ends with a question mark is pretty definitive.

        I love Graham, but he’s whiffed on predictions before.

        Maybe chill a bit on this…

        Liked by 4 people

        • CB

          What if … Graham is right and you’re being a smart ass for no reason?

          See what I did there?

          P.S. This is an innocuous tweet not a press release. He’s just divulging a snippet of what he’s heard. No need to challenge his journalistic integrity.

          As for the whiff, did Cox not miss time because of an injury? I don’t follow Florida’s participation chart that closely. Also, I’d trust Graham a little more about Georgia news than Florida news.

          Like

          • Again, I love Graham, but he’s not a journalist. He’s a blogger like me. You guys may not see a difference, but there is.

            Liked by 4 people

            • CB

              What’s the difference between a journalist and a blogger with sources? Journalists get to ask Kirby questions on zoom and get passes to games?

              I’m not even being a smart ass. I really don’t know the difference.

              Like

              • I didn’t think you were, but if you have to ask that question…

                Short answer: ethics, training, judgment. There are standards beat writers are expected to meet that folks like Graham and I aren’t. Why do you think I take shots at certain journalists (or, to be fair sometimes, their editors) who don’t live up to standards?

                Liked by 3 people

                • CB

                  With all the snark in your intro I thought you were about to hit me with some serious knowledge.

                  Instead I get, “journalists have standards that they follow when they want to, and I regularly point out when they don’t.”

                  It’s 2021, journalism is basically dead. But I digress, again this wasn’t a press release. Graham could be wrong, and/or things could change. But I think it’s more than good enough for the comment section of a blog. No?

                  Liked by 1 person

                • Unfounded speculation isn’t more than good enough here, AFAIC. YMMV, obviously.

                  By the way, you act like all journalists are cut from the same cloth. They most definitely aren’t. That you choose to defend your desire to wallow in something unsubstantiated by painting with a broad brush like that tells me you really don’t get it, and don’t want to.

                  Liked by 4 people

                • CB

                  I’ll come back when Barbara Walter breaks the news. Hope the saddle on that high horse is comfortable.

                  Like

                • And I hope you get your knickers unwadded soon.

                  Don’t you still post on your blog? That would seem to be an appropriate place to share your take on Graham’s news.

                  Liked by 2 people

                • CB

                  Nah, turns out I don’t really like writing and my only consistent reader was that troll Thomas Davis.

                  Feel free to delete my comment if you truly feel it sullies your high standards of journalistic integrity for your blog comment section.

                  Like

                • Not sure what your comment has to do with journalistic integrity, since you’re not a journalist, either.

                  Liked by 2 people

                • CB

                  Me: “A guy who covers Georgia football seems to think JT is transferring.”

                  Senator: “That guy isn’t a journalist, you aren’t a journalist, also there are good and bad journalists, also speculation is retroactively not allowed here.”

                  Sheesh man. Relax.

                  Liked by 1 person

                • … also speculation is retroactively not allowed here.

                  That must be why your comments were taken down. Oh, wait.

                  Christ, whined enough yet?

                  Liked by 2 people

                • CB

                  I know bitch slapping isn’t allowed so I’m not taking the bait… this time.

                  I guess I’ll see you on your post about JT entering the portal. Or perhaps he’ll be the starter in the Orange Bowl. This scenario has turned into a potential win/win for old CB.

                  Like

                • gurkhadawg

                  I think both the Senator and CB have much higher standards than the goof ball “journalists” at CNN.

                  Liked by 1 person

        • Dylan Dreyer's Booty

          You know, questions that start out ‘What if’ and end with a question mark are usually rhetorical questions and are back door statements. It’s what the Q people do al the time: ‘What if JFK is still alive?’, for example.

          I have no idea if JT is doing anything but trying to play. It doesn’t make sense to me that he will transfer, either, because he’s already his one get of jail card coming here. I kind of doubt that he has enough film for pros to be willing to draft him.

          Here’s the thing, though: if Kirby is going to insist on Stetson even if the defense isn’t able to put Stetson in a good situation, we’re fucked. And Kirby calling out the defense in order to stand behind his Stetson or nothing position isn’t particularly since he and Lanning made the call to go all zone, which he admits Alabama excelled at exploiting.

          Liked by 2 people

    • ugafidelis

      Oh well. We’ve got Vandegriff right?

      Like

  3. Speaking of placing people in the wrong settings, Kirby should take a look at his second and third quarter defense. Hopefully a good amount of his “self-scouting” this week is to look at how he and Lanning set up their defense and, in particular, why it was that William Poole III — who played fine in mop-up work but never with the starters — ended up on the field flailing around hopelessly on the field. Was everyone else unavailable?

    Liked by 3 people

  4. ApalachDawg aux Bruxelles

    I saw it on the internet so it must be true.

    Liked by 3 people

  5. 79dawg

    Yeah, I mean, I’m not sure why so many don’t understand that in a game where the defense wasn’t on ice skates the entire second quarter, the two second-half red zone drives where we got zip we play more conservatively at least get FGs, and are right in the game.
    The defense getting absolutely annihilated in the second quarter cost us the game; if they’d fallen on the fumble, and we’d have gone to the half tied, the dynamics are totally different, and who knows what would have happened. Everyone wants to crap on Stetson for not being able to bring us back from down 2 scores while ignoring that the overwhelming strength of our team put us in that position….

    Liked by 6 people

    • Geezus

      This was a TEAM failure (the only pass I’ll give is to Camarda), and both sides have to play their part. Everyone saw the defense getting eaten alive, that’s when the offense needed to pickup the slack – that’s why everyone is talking about Bennett.

      This reminds me of what frustrated me so much about Mike Bobo when he was our OC. When his offenses were scoring 28, 34 and 40+ points a game, they could never seem to score when they HAD to late in a critical game. Then at the end, everyone would say “well, we scored enough, we should have won”. The difference with the Bama’s of the world is when the HAVE to have a score at the end, they find a way to do it.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Previously Paul

      I’m sick to death of watching people not fall on fumbles. For every 1 scoop and score there are 50 plays where not falling on a fumble ends up costing points. If I’m a coach (I’m not) I make them run stadiums every time they don’t fall on a fumble even if they do scoop and score. Hey! You kids get off my lawn.

      Liked by 1 person

  6. This is maddening and disingenuous bc whatever is happening with Daniels is never going to be made perfect.

    So it is what it is.

    That said, to beat Alabama, we need to score about 10 points more and hold them to 10 points less.

    With Metchie out and no turnovers, I think we can get to holding them to 31.

    But I see no way on God’s green earth we can get to 34 on offense (and if I’m being honest, I don’t see us not turning the ball over either).

    Whatever happened with Daniels fucked us.

    And before anyone goes there: no, I don’t know that Daniels can beat Alabama. But I’m pretty gd certain Bennett can’t.

    Liked by 11 people

  7. mddawg

    I love Stetson’s story. We’re from the same hometown and I get a kick out of it every time they mention Blackshear, GA and/or Pierce County High School. I was convinced that if we could beat Bama with him, we could go all the way. Obviously, we didn’t beat Bama, so now what?

    Since the loss Saturday night, I’ve been thinking about a couple of different QB scenarios from the past. Back when Hutson Mason was our QB, a lot of fans, myself included, were frustrated by what seemed like his inability to push the ball downfield. Everyone believed that Brice Ramsey had a bigger arm and would open up the offense more although he might make more mistakes. But the coaches kept repeating the mantra that Mason gave us the best chance to win. Considering that Ramsey never took meaningful snaps at QB under different OCs, it would seem that multiple people concluded that he wasn’t the guy who could get it done. Is the same thing happening here? Is Stetson Bennett, for all his limitations, actually the best option?

    But I’m also reminded of the situation at UF with Felipe Franks and Kyle Trask. Mullen had Trask riding the bench in favor of Franks, and it’s likely that Trask never sees the field if Franks doesn’t get injured. For all our criticisms of Mullen, I doubt he’d knowingly start someone he believed to be an inferior QB. So what was he seeing day in and day out at practice that made him honestly believe that Franks was a better option than Trask? Could Monken and/or Smart be making a similar mistake here with Bennett and Daniels? I’ve got to admit that it’s at least a possibility.

    I said it in another thread, but at this point I’m basically at a “what have we got to lose?” mentality with the QB situation. Get JT Daniels ready for Michigan. If he struggles, you can always fall back on Bennett, and it might silence some of the criticism. If Daniels succeeds and we beat Bama in a rematch, then the criticism will still be there but it will be drowned out to some extent by the fact that we won a national title.

    Liked by 6 people

    • Previously Paul

      As is pointed out elsewhere in this thread, we have three 4 and 5 star quarterbacks on the bench. If none are a better option than Stetson then something is very wrong either from a recruiting or development standpoint. Whatever it is, it’s been wrong for far too long. We’ve seen this story too many times. We need to fix it.

      Liked by 5 people

    • What’s frustrating about it is that Stetson started this year 3rd string. And he started last year 4th spring. Last year we had the story that Monken told him in the spring that he wasn’t likely to ever play. And this year we had the story where he was considering transferring because he wasn’t getting any reps at practice due to his status on the depth chart. And even when JT Daniels first went out with injury, the word was it was going to be Beck filling in, but they decided on the experienced choice in the end. So we know that the coaches felt both this year and last year that Bennett is not the type of QB to lead a top tier SEC team. So, we’re supposed to trust the coaches – but are they wrong now or were they wrong then? Which makes me find it likely that they don’t think he’s the best option, just the one that got them this far and they didn’t want to make a change. But what got them this far isn’t going to get them all the way. And now it might be too late to change.

      Liked by 3 people

      • mddawg

        I think we can safely say they were wrong to start D’Wan Mathis ahead of Stetson Bennet last year, so the coaches definitely aren’t immune from making mistakes in that regard. Maybe there’s something wrong with how we’re evaluating QBs at practice?

        Liked by 2 people

        • D as in Dawg

          Maybe we should be doing more evaluation during a game. Some players might play a lot better and grow up faster that way. Bryce Young has shined and struggled all year and he put together the game of his life when needed the most. Stetson has coasted through the season handing off the ball because our defense was so much better than our opponents’ offenses. When it wasn’t, he is not talented enough to be the difference maker. We need that and you just might have to trot out your young 5 star to find out. By the way, that’s easier to do when you don’t start every season against a great team. 🤔

          Like

      • Beck played before SB and was terrible. Stetson got better and better leading the country in many stats. No way BVG is ready. The only unanswered question is what has happened to Daniels? Stetson seems to consult with him on the sidelines after every series and he’s certainly acting as if he’s in full support of SB, cheering and analyzing. “Stetson’s our best option…” implies JT is not who he was at the beginning of the season and/or Kirby and Monken have adopted an offensive philosophy that is going to cost them two championships of the 3 available this season.

        Like

    • mongodawg

      Good post. I keep wondering why everyone thinks JT would be lighting it up. What has he shown this year that proves he’s clearly better than Bennet? Of course last year he was but Bennet is far and away better than he was last year. I would think the coaches would be the best judge of this, But who knows, maybe us interweb hacks know better..

      Liked by 1 person

      • mddawg

        Just to be clear, I’m not trying to put Daniels down. More than anything, I’m just conflicted about the whole situation. Do we have a Mason & Ramsey situation on our hands or is it more like Franks & Trask? JT’s sample size this season is so small that it’s hard to tell. Just going back and watching his highlights from the South Carolina game he looked pretty impressive, and Bennett came in long enough just to throw a pick. As FlyingPeakDawg noted above, Daniels always seems to be engaged and supportive when they show him on the sidelines, so it’s hard to believe that it’s some attitude problem that is keeping him out. Maybe there are more health issues going on than what we know about. I was honestly surprised that Daniels didn’t get healthy enough during the bye week to play from the Cocktail Party on.

        Like

      • theotherdoug

        It’s not really that JT would be better. It’s that a player of his level has a higher ceiling.

        Stetson now has plenty of snaps and coaching so we know where his ceiling is, and it’s not enough to win a high scoring game. His ceiling is too low.

        When the defense gets the best of the opposing offense UGA doesn’t need a lot out of the QB position, but in the postseason it’s very likely that UGA will play a team that has success against the defense. Bama type teams have elite talent and coaching too. This is where not developing a higher ceiling guy at QB gets ugly. Keep in mind that the defense only gave up 34 points to Bama. Definitely not good, but also not a disaster.

        So, it’s not really JT needs to be the guy, but instead Kirby needs to recruit and develop a QB with the talent to win it all. We’re not Tennessee trying to win as many regular season games as possible. We’re built to win it all, except at QB.

        Liked by 2 people

  8. joereynard25

    He’s right, and unfortunately is goes to what my concern has been all year. Under pressure, as in the pressure of playing from behind in a big game, SB4 is gonna do SB4 things, like throwing a game changing pick 6 against a team against which you cannot get away with that. I’ll never understand why we didn’t start getting JTD ready after the Florida game. We’ll never know if JT could have led us to a win in that game. But I’d stupid me can predict that SB4 will do something to severely hurt our chances of winning, how can Kirby/Monken not predict the same? You take away those 2 picks and Georgia never has to abandon the run and essentially concede the game. It’s a 1 score game, at worst, in crunch time. And that’s a lot more manageable and winnable.

    Liked by 4 people

    • dawgman3000

      But it’s all on the defense for losing that game, not Stetson is what I’ve been told. Yes, the defense had a bad game Saturday, but for those of us yearning for JT to run the offense, knew that eventually we would have to rely on the offense to win a game for us at some point. Stetson is not the guy to do that. It’s just a fact, not knocking the Mailman.

      At this point, I don’t know what to think about the QB situation in Athens. It feels like something funky is going on behind the scenes with JT that we don’t know about.

      Liked by 7 people

  9. sundiatagaines

    Screw it. Stet on 1st and 2nd down, JT for 3rd and 4th. We ask every other player to sub in and be ready on a moment’s notice. Don’t give me the “gotta get into a rhythm” stuff. We have different receivers every play. Closers are pitching the first inning now. Cats and dogs, living together. I mean, if we had practiced this, I’d be sorta serious.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Previously Paul

      And boy didn’t Saturday night feel like Groudhog Day?

      Liked by 1 person

    • theotherdoug

      Kirby uses “iron sharpens iron” to get his best players on the field the most, but that doesn’t work for QBs. He has to pick one and rep him. It appears that he’s really bad at picking, so I think you are on to something. Kirby needs to sub in the QBs like he does the Dline.
      I’m sorta serious.

      Like

  10. Dan Rackley

    There isn’t a QB on this planet who we know could put up 42 points against BAMA. Stetson had some good plays and we were up 10 with the ball to start the second quarter. His stats are excellent when he had some time to throw. Both of our lines got dominated by theirs and that’s why we lost this game. Trying to put this all on one guy is ridiculous.

    Liked by 2 people

  11. Holiday Inn Bagman

    Coaches are gonna turn on the Michigan tape and see some monster pass rushers. Dawgs did ok vs Will Anderson and the Tide but mobility will again be valued in addition to whatever the hell else is going on in that QB room/practice every day.

    Like

  12. 3rdandGrantham

    With all due respect, I’m still amazed by those who continue to defend Stetson, while pointing out that he is serviceable or whatever. The fact is, for even the greatest college football teams, at some point you’re going to need your offense to win you a game. Saturday night was one of those nights, and the Georgia offense failed miserably.

    Yes, the defense play poorly. No doubt about that. But it would be nice if once, just once, the offense could come through for us. The fact is, Stetson really should have had 4-5 ints including a second pick six. Early in the game, he threw a ball right into a Bama defender’s hands, and he had a cake walk for a touchdown. Fortunately for us, he dropped the ball. There are several other throws Stetson was very lucky to get away with as well.

    In the second half, the defense did it’s job, but Stetson failed time after time and thus we had no shot coming back. From red zone failures to pick 6’s and everything between, again it was a disaster. On top of everything else, our offense is and will continue being limited with Stetson running the show. He’s horrible under pressure as pointed out – and that will not be changing against good teams like bama. QB’s face pressure…that’s a key part of the game and what separates walk-ons from 4-5 star types.

    He also can’t throw guys open but instead relies on them to make great catches or otherwise bail him out. Finally, he missed some absolutely wide open guys because again he can’t read the field (Burton immediately comes to mind on an easy touchdown missed). If Stetson’s first read isn’t open, he immediately goes into panic mode and all hell breaks loose.

    Again, I am speechless that Stetson continues to have defenders. I mean, I honestly just don’t get it. We have a large enough sample size of him to know his gross limitations, yet many continue to make excuses for him anyway. Even Jake and others at 247 (who have defended Stet all season long knowing JT’s issues) finally admitted yesterday that a QB change should happen, regardless of what JT’s situation is.

    Repeat after me – we cannot be Bama with Stet at QB (barring something totally bizarre/horrid game from Bama). But hey, continue to bang your head against the wall and continue to convince yourself otherwise.

    Liked by 5 people

    • With all due respect, I’m still amazed by those who continue to defend Stetson…

      With all due respect back atcha, the issue isn’t with any of us who do. It’s with his head coach who does.

      Liked by 1 person

      • mg4life0331

        No I’d say there’s a decent sized camp here that shouted down any constructive criticism.

        Because saying Stetson can’t throw a laser when needed meant he was a terrible person apparently. I guess when you were posting qb ratings and other fly shit in pepper stats that didn’t mean anything.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Brandon Bruce

        With all due respect the two commentators after the game who picked UGA had the same conclusion. Yes we’re not privy to everything Smart knows, but also you can’t say he is infallible until he has the pedigree of Saban.

        Like

        • That wasn’t my point. Of course, we all have opinions and all are welcome to share those here.

          But there’s only one person who’s opinion matters ultimately and he’s not a GTP reader.

          Like

    • Illini84

      Yea, berating people on a blog matters.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Dan Rackley

      I would argue that the defense most certainly did not do its job on the first drive of the second-half. The game hinged at that point

      Like

    • originaluglydawg

      Third, I went somewhere yesterday and since my old truck isn’t running too well, so I decided to park it and take the shiny Corvette.
      But when I went out to the driveway, I realized that I don’t have a shiny Corvette. I’ve got another beater that runs worse than the truck.
      I drove the truck.
      It’s called reality.
      Kirby can’t birth a full grown Bryce Young or Kyle Trask during halftime.
      I agree, it’s Smart’s fault, in fact it’s a serious if not epic blunder to not have developed (he had lots and lots of opportunities in blow outs games to play backups and let them learn, but he did very little of that) a quarterback with better skills than SB. That’s the root of the problem but knowing and acknowledging it doesn’t change the fact. He’s stuck with SB and he’s not going to run the kid down and destroy him…and then be stuck with zilch.
      Kirby has no viable option.
      (As far as “why” goes. Why hasn’t he played/developed a stud QB? The only reason I can imagine is that he believes playing Bennett as much as he did, even in mop up, would make him better and better. Free practice if you will. I wish I knew. I don’t question his choice..he knows who’s best..but I do question his failure to bring another QB along).

      Like

    • tenesseewasnevergreat

      What would have Alabama’s offense looked like with SBIV behind center? I have to believe that everyone would agree that it would have been a disaster for Alabama. If that is the case, why do some people believe that the answer here is just playing better defense?

      Liked by 3 people

      • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2021)

        Because as we continue to see in the world around us, people can’t help but fall into the Appeal to Authority Logical Fallacy.

        You see it here all the time with most interactions with me. “If you’re so smart, or if you know what to do, why aren’t YOU the coach at Georgia.”

        The appeal to authority logical fallacy is real, and it’s spectacular.

        Liked by 1 person

      • mongodawg

        Id argue the opposite. Too many times the bama wr caught the ball with no dawg defender even remotely close. Change it around and ask yourself if Brice was our QB would the outcome have been different with our defensive play?

        Liked by 1 person

        • tenesseewasnevergreat

          Would he have thrown those picks? I can’t see it. Those were classic SBIV picks right into double coverage and placed where only the defender could make the play.

          Liked by 3 people

  13. Ran A

    People go running to their Camps. It’s either Stetson or JT. I’m glad to see that “we” as a group are not doing that. Stetson is a damn good Dawg. But he’s had two shots at Alabama and has lost them both. Yes, it’s a team game and there is plenty of responsibility here, that includes the coaching staff.

    As touched on by (Holiday Inn Bag Man) above, Michigan will rush the passer and Bennett doesn’t do well under pressure. JB reads the play quicker and gets the ball out quicker – sorry, he just does. No, he isn’t going to run for 15 yards and save the drive; but he is far more likely not to be in that position in the first place.

    At the end of the day, it’s Kirby’s and Todd’s decision. Let’s hope and pray that whatever this decision is – it’s the one that gets Georgia over the top.

    Games are about match-ups and the truth is, Georgia matches up very well against Michigan. I think Georgia can beat Michigan with either QB – really do.

    But Alabama? Going to have to do some things differently on defense and we need a QB that is good on 3rd down and that set the defense really-really well. That’s Daniels – not Bennett.

    Liked by 2 people

    • 79dawg

      I think Stetson is good at rolling away from pressure when it comes up the middle; he is not good at stepping up into the pocket when there is edge pressure, IMO.
      He got two or three good scrambles I can recall on Saturday, but it was towards the beginning of the game – no doubt by the third quarter, he’s thinking “I can’t run because we’re down by two scores so I have to try to throw a pass” – I guess you can call that “forcing it”, but I think its a natural reaction/impulse in that situation when, perhaps, he could have had some open field to scramble and get something…. The rolling away from pressure also works better when you have receivers on the side you’re rolling to, and not sure how that looked on Saturday….

      Like

  14. W Cobb Dawg

    So we recruit 4 and 5 star studs, but don’t give them a legitimate shot at the job. Then hand the keys to a walk-on who we acknowledge won’t be able to keep up with the 4 and 5 star studs of opponents.

    We’re willing to adjust the O because of the walk-ons lack of arm strength and reaction time. But we’re not willing to adjust the O for the guy with the great arm who lacks mobility but reacts better.

    Having said that, I still think Monken is an amazing OC. Not sure anyone else in cfb could make SBIV a serviceable QB, let alone a playoff QB.

    Liked by 8 people

  15. Geezus

    I will say this RE Bennett/Daniels debate. By game 13, if a former walk-on is a better option than two former 5-stars and a former 4-star, then it is reasonable to question the coaches ability to develop the position. Either that, or (for some odd reason) they absolutely suck at recruiting the QB position.

    Liked by 3 people

  16. Previously Paul

    The problem is, Kirby is not quite likely right. There is simply no evidence to support the idea that we’re going to beat elite teams with the approach we’re using. It’s not about the defense putting the offense in a hole. It’s about the offense being unable to answer consistently. We have a generational defense this year. And we all allowed ourselves to believe that THIS defense could buck the trend. THIS defense can keep even the best offense from scoring. No they can’t. The definition of insanity is to keep trying the same thing expecting a different result. We’ve seen the same result repeatedly. Twice with Stetson behind center. The answer IS NOT to focus on taking pressure off the offense. The answer is to develop a high powered offense that can score at will. Until we do that we will consistently relive last Saturday’s game. We will continue to be the most talented and underachieving team in college football.

    Liked by 2 people

  17. Scotty King

    When does Stockton get to Athens? Neither Beck or BVG has shown much (in limited opportunies).

    Like

    • Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2021)

      Why in God’s name would any 5-star QB want to play for Kirby Smart after seeing how he stuck with walk-on, try-hard QB over the best QB on his roster because that’s the kinda shit that Kirby Smart does?

      Like

  18. uga97

    This is how it works. A team like this should be able to dictate the game & control its own outcome, not vice versa & allowing Bama to do it.

    Like

    • Previously Paul

      And how did they do that? With their offense. Until we develop a high powered offense we will continue to lose big games to Alabama and other teams who have one. We see over and over and over again that even the best defenses cannot consistently contain a high powered offense. The defense is great. Now build us an offense. Workmanlike offenses have a ceiling that keeps them from winning championships. Right now we have a team with better players, better coaches and better facilities. Problem is, our philosophy is giving us the same results. If Georgia had to, do you really believe we could engineer a game winning drive with less than a minute to go? In my opinion with Bennett behind center the answer is no.

      Liked by 1 person

  19. classiccitycanine

    Why the F does Kirby keep insisting that the other 21 positions on the field be elite so that he can get away with starting a non-elite guy at the most important position?

    Liked by 4 people

  20. Corch Irvin Meyers, Former Jags Corch (2021)

    It’s fucking Groundhog’s Day.

    And Kirby Smart really is going to waste the most talented team Georgia has ever had on a QB who has no business being our starting QB.

    This is sheer lunacy.

    Liked by 2 people

  21. 1) In the last 10 years, when Saban/Alabama loses a big game/title game, the other team had an elite QB.

    Trevor Lawrence
    Joe Burrow
    Deshaun Watson
    J. T. Barrett

    Even outside of that, you usually needed someone like Johnny Manziel, Cam Newton, or Tim Tebow. Very few flukes otherwise.

    2) IThe last time Georgia beat Saban/Bama, we had Matt Stafford at QB.

    3) ITop 3 rated QBs of 2018: Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, JT Daniels. Kirby had two of three and benched them.

    4) IStetson isn’t 100% to blame for his 0-2 record against Alabama, but you can’t count on (or even hope for) him to save you and he always throws brutal picks in bunches.

    We still might win a rematch if our defense goes Super Saiyan and Bama/Saban finally has a disastrous performance in a huge game.

    Is that really what we want to pin our hopes on? A Saban title game choke?

    5) IWhen’s the last time we won a big game shootout? The Rose Bowl? We don’t have Chubb/Michel, Hot Rod, or the good fortune to face a shoddy Oklahoma defense. And we were SHOCKED to even pull that one off. We’ve had some good offenses but they usually feast on a team our defense is pummeling. I rarely remember our offense bailing out our defense.

    I desperately hope I am wrong but I don’t see anything changing with Stetson when there’s even MORE pressure, bigger stakes, and Saban has even MORE time to prepare.

    Liked by 7 people

    • mg4life0331

      I was thinking exactly this for a while. Thanks for taking the time to post it, but it will fall on deaf ears that were once ready for blood if you went contrarian earlier this year.

      Imagine being a dick to people for having a constructive criticism, then hiding when proven correct. Sounds like a real group of winners.

      Liked by 1 person

      • originaluglydawg

        OK…We give in.
        You’re right, MG.
        Now what do you want us to do about it?
        Get together a GTP petition and demand Kirby play who you say?
        Just start it. I’ll sign it, and Kirby will be convinced and we’ll watch JT take MI and Bama to the woodshed.
        You f’in goobers are ridiculous.

        Like

        • mg4life0331

          Yeah it’s ridiculous when someone argues a point on a discussion board. How dare someone think different and post an opinion on a public blog.

          That angry mob sure knows how to move goal posts don’t they? Fn ridiculous because I think a lot of this crap stems over from the political bs that used to go on.

          Like

    • Previously Paul

      We will never beat a team like Alabama with our current offensive philosophy or anyone like Stetson Bennett behind center. It simply isn’t going to happen. I wish I was wrong. But you are correct. We can’t pin our hopes on the other team having a bad day. Even my neighbors, Tide alumni, season ticket holders and diehard fans were shocked how easy it was to beat us. They only went to the game because they got free tickets, having turned down the offer to buy them. They expected to lose. That’s pathetic y’all.

      Liked by 2 people

  22. PTC DAWG

    Obviously, Kirby didn’t want the rematch with Cincy…3D chess.

    Liked by 3 people

  23. Hunkering Hank

    I stopped reading when Kirby said “he played well.”

    Liked by 1 person

  24. signaldawg

    I don’t see what we lose by playing JT at this point. I don’t think Bennett was awful Saturday (definitely wasn’t great either) but the one thing he does better (scramble) was not really a factor against Bama. I guess the question now is what do we gain by playing JT? I think he gets the ball out quicker which negates the movement short coming (btw, JT isn’t a statue, he can move a bit). I think he sees the field better and is able to find open receivers quicker. I’m not sure he is much more accurate than Stetson but has a little more zip on the ball. JT is way better on third down. But how much better has he been at all that stuff in practice? Because you would think if he was way better than Stetson in practice, you would have seen him on the field.

    Like

  25. junkyardawg41

    The board today is just wow. The idea that the back up must be better than the starter permeates a lot of folk here. If you all want to argue that our QB evaluation is bad, I am fine with that — could be a really good point. If you want to argue that SBIV needs to be benched for someone else, who? The ASSUMPTION is that JT is able to play. Many of you made that same assertion last year after the Florida loss — and guess what, HE WAS NOT READY. I think if the group says SBIV is the best we have, he is the best we have.

    Like

  26. armydawg

    There is one problem that Stetson has that can’t be ignored: He is a turnover machine. He is going to make bad decisions when throwing. Even when he had open receivers he missed by wide margins against Bama.The man suffers from a chronic case of BFS(Brain Fart Syndrome) and it strikes at the worst times. All his mistakes were compensated by a smothering defense until they weren’t. I know he’s Kirby’s & everyone’s feel good story but if we are in it to win it then it’s time for JT to get in there and take us the rest of the way. Remember, it was JT who engineered the drive down the field to get us the win against Cinci. He has the mindset for the big game, Bennett doesn’t.

    Like