It’s the song, not the singer.

I can’t say this comes as much of a surprise.

… Sources say the Broncos view Tebow as a major project who was negatively impacted by the lack of an offseason. Having operated almost exclusively out of the shotgun in college, he still lacks smoothness when taking snaps directly from center: Whereas the Broncos’ other three quarterbacks anticipate the snap and are already into their drop upon receiving it, Tebow typically is locked in place, meaning he’s already behind in his timing upon the beginning of a play.

For all the talk about Tebow’s need to improve his mechanics, Broncos sources say his lack of familiarity with running a pro-style offense is an even more egregious issue. As one executive says, “Forget about how he delivers the ball, or how accurate it is. First he has to know where to go with it.”

That’s not so much a knock on Tebow, who the article goes on to note may have the intestinal fortitude to overcome these flaws, as it is on Urban Meyer’s system.

A couple of years ago, this would have been a much bigger deal in SEC recruiting, of course.  With Corch and Junior both gone, though, the opportunity to go negative isn’t quite there as it used to be, although perhaps somebody could point fingers at Mississippi State… nah, never mind.  I guess we’ll have to wait until Corch gets the Ohio State gig.

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51 responses to “It’s the song, not the singer.

  1. James Stephenson

    In an alternate universe it would be interesting to see what Richt and Bobo could have done with a young Tebow.

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    • Normaltown Mike

      -Redshirt his first year.
      -Up back on punt unit and 3rd string QB Fr year
      -Switch to DE Soph year (buried on depth chart)
      -Back to QB (2nd string) Jr year (named MVP of G-Day Game)
      -No Sr year as he graduates early and leaves program for Yale Divinity School.

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      • Zdawg

        Pretty spot on Mike!

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        • Mayor of Dawgtown

          Nah. They would have moved him to tight end immediately where he would have been third on the depth chart his entire career. He would have been an outstanding special teams player, particularly in the directional kicking scheme. He would never have graduated, though, choosing to drop out of school after his third season of not playing and going to work for the Peace Corps in Indonesia. Sadly, Tebow would no longer be with us having succumbed to intestinal parasites he acquired from drinking the local water there.

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          • BMan

            He certainly wouldn’t have made it into the Divinity School at Yale. And Gator people would tell you that Tebow is immune to intestinal parasites and similar things that afflict us mere mortals.

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            • Normaltown Mike

              “He certainly wouldn’t have made it into the Divinity School at Yale”

              You’re right. People that believe in God don’t go to Divinity School at Yale!

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  2. JasonC

    I read that article and to me the writer dumped on Tebow a lot, but when you look at the situation, you realize it isn’t all his fault. As you noted, Corch never delivered on his promised to prepare Tebow for pro offenses. But I think the biggest entity at fault is the Broncos front office. They took Tebow in the first round, which was a gamble. It’s not like all of Tebow’s flaws have just sprung up, they were concerns before his senior year. The writer’s inside sources are pretty rough on Tebow, but they almost made matters worse by dealing Orton, so how freakin’ smart are they? I’m not a Tebow fan, but it’s not all his fault.

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    • Bad M

      It’s not his fault he sux. riiiight. Just because he was picked in the first round, and gater’s have an insane crush over him, just shines a spotlight on it. He still sux. He’s getting paid too much not to bear responsibility.

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      • gastr1

        It certainly isn’t his fault that Josh McDaniels may go down as one of the dumbest coaches in history for all of the boneheaded moves he made including drafting the GPOOE in the first round and paying him that much.

        Is it Tebow’s fault that he is too stupid to learn the playbook or to practice well enough to succeed at it? Perhaps. I mean, he can’t take a snap from center correctly? That’s surely lazy, stupid, or both, amiright?

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  3. Ginny

    The biggest tragedy for Tebow was going in the first round.

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  4. Go Dawgs!

    I guess we weren’t just being Bulldog haterz when we all said that Tebow would have a tough time in the NFL.

    Ginny and JasonC are right, though, the biggest problem is that Tebow was drafted in the first round by a group of people who clearly had no idea what they were doing. That’s a huge investment. It’s not just about the money he’s making, but also the fact that Denver cost itself the opportunity to draft a real first-rounder who could be contributing to the team at this point. So, Tebow’s got a lot of pressure to perform now, and he’s not getting the chance to be third string and develop for a few years.

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    • Basically Tebow is just one of the many ways in which Josh McDaniels drove the Broncos as far into the ground as one man could do in less than two full seasons. McDaniels didn’t know what to do with him, and it’s looking like the John Fox regime doesn’t either, though they’re not the ones who have to take responsibility for drafting him.

      I’m with you and JasonC — the present situation isn’t Tebow’s fault, though while I’m not openly rooting for Tebow to fail, it’s a relief that we’re not having to hear the same worship that was heaped upon him while he was in college. My guess is he follows the pattern set by the Gators’ previous Heisman winner/übermensch — a couple more nondescript seasons in the NFL and then he goes off to found a ministry somewhere.

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      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        I also expect much the same out of Cammy Cam. Although in Newton’s case he will found a fraudulent ministry to be used for laundering illegally acquired assets for which he will be indicted, tried and convicted. After serving his sentence he will be hired as Auburn’s AD and secretly will be put in charge of the Auburn pay for play operation which will be expanded to include all sports under his watchful eye.

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        • Prov

          But Cam’s daddy is a preacher.

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          • Mayor of Dawgtown

            Exactly.

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          • Cojones

            As well as Tebow’s daddy. Did you ever wonder how Richt’s born again background could land those two in Myer’s camp? I thought some of the naysayers were upset that he would recruit passively when he came on board or get only Christian Athletes. We have had some nasties to throw cold water on that aimless blaze. Now some think that he coaches that way without even so much as a glance at his resume. NCs and Heismans only count on your resume if they happen here. Sometimes I get ill looking at the anonymous affrontery that he puts up with until I realize that he is practicing his religion from his personal life while coaching a team in the public eye. He has consistently done a good job at both without mixing the two.

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        • Zdawg

          I am truly interested in the parallels between Cammy and Tebow however. Cam seemed to have a stronger arm, a little faster and more accurate, but the same issues of running a pro style offense under center may pop up.

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  5. Turd Ferguson

    When Tebow left college, I predicted that he’d be a professional minister/motivational speaker within a few years. I stand by that prediction.

    Urban Meyer knew exactly what he was doing. Teaching Tebow pro-style skills might have been good for Tebow, but it wouldn’t immediately benefit Meyer in any way, so why bother? And even if he was still coaching at Florida, I really don’t think he’d struggle to find top-notch dual-threat QBs for his system, even with all the negative talk about Tebow. It’s pretty easy to convince a cocky teenager that “it’ll be different with you.”

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    • Mayor of Dawgtown

      But……Corch repeated said he felt like Tebow was “my son.” Does this mean Corch wasn’t telling the truth about that? I knew Corch didn’t give a sh!t about Tebow when Tebow got injured running up the score against UK.

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  6. Gravidy

    At the risk of sounding like a Gator apologist…

    We Dawg fans need to be careful when we start sticking all these needles in our Tebow and Corch dolls. Sure, Corch’s system isn’t particularly suited to preparing quarterbacks for the NFL. But Tebow and Corch were pretty good at beating the Dawgs and a lot of other college teams – which was their main goal.

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    • Hackerdog

      I know it was Corch’s goal. But I doubt it was Tebow’s. Most recruits these days want to go somewhere that will send them on to the NFL. It’s very rare to have a legacy that has lived and breathed college football and just wants to be a part of his favorite school beating his most hated school.

      If I thought the my son could be best set up to earn millions of dollars by going to GA Tech, or Florida, or Alabama, or wherever, then that is where I would send him. If my kid is going to be on the scout team, then he can just pick his favorite school. As long as it’s in state.

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  7. Mike

    Florida fans are content that Tebow was one of the best QBs possible for Meyer’s system. Of that there is no doubt.

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    • Scott W.

      Yes we know. That is all we ever hear.

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      • Mayor of Dawgtown

        Not wanting to be a wet blanket (well, maybe I really do) but has anybody considered what would have happened last season if Cam Newton hadn’t gotten in trouble at FLA and had stayed there instead of having to transfer? FLA’s D was still pretty good–the problems were on offense primarily because they were trying to fit a square peg into a round hole at QB for their system. I’m betting that with Newton FLA wins the SEC again and probably the BCSNC.

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    • dean

      You’re absolutely right Mike and I don’t think any amount of negative recruiting would hurt Myer if he were still at UF. Yea his system may not the best for NFL QB preparation but he’s produced 2 first round draft picks (# 1 overall with Alex Smith), 1 Heisman trophy and 2 National Championships. Hard to discredit that.

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      • Mike

        Indeed. Don’t tell that to the rest of the b ys around here though.

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      • Hackerdog

        The thing about system quarterbacks going to the NFL is that it only takes one Al Davis or Josh McDaniels to perpetuate the trend. 31 teams saw Tebow for what he was. A great college QB whose best bet in the NFL was as a fullback or H-back, or as a project who could ride the bench for 3-4 years and try to learn to be a pro-style QB. One team came along, took some stupid pills on the morning of the draft, and now he’s a 1st round QB who plays like a 4th round project.

        But UF can always say that their guy went in the first round and high school kids will eat it up.

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    • JaxDawg

      There will never be a better fit at QB for the spread offense. Tebow was perfect, both in terms of athleticism and mentality.

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  8. Biggus Rickus

    I’m obviously not an expert, but Tebow outperformed my expectations of him in his limited time last year. He isn’t polished, but he was effective, and his running ability translated better than I thought it would. The new regime doesn’t like him obviously, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up a slightly above average NFL QB now.

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  9. Comin' Down The Track

    On the day after the draft, I did jokingly Facebook predict that Tebow was going to look great blocking for Knowshon. All of my Gator friends from grade school went ape poop calling me a hater and such. I might have been partially right, but, of course, as a first round pick, he’s too expensive to be a fullback.
    I suck at economics.

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  10. Nate Dawg

    At least he’s got a hot girlfriend. The internet never lies.

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  11. Irishdawg

    Doug nailed it; Tebow’s in the situation he’s in because of Josh McDaniel’s arrogance. McDaniel’s convinced himself he was an offensive genius and could turn Tebow into a pro quarterback with his geniusy genius. He choose poorly. As everyone who didn’t jocksniff Tebow predicted, the flaws in his mechanics and release were exposed in the NFL, and he’s struggling.

    As far as it not being Tebow’s fault and we shouldn’t pick on the kid, yeah that may be true, but whatever. He certainly enjoyed the media attention, and any 23 year old who writes an autobiography should be punched in the balls.

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  12. 69Dawg

    The rumor has it that the Patriots tricked McDaniel. He was so sure they were going to take Tebow that he traded up to get him. Bill B has a long memory and does not appreciate former assistances that leave him.

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  13. Irishdawg

    “Cam seemed to have a stronger arm, a little faster and more accurate, but the same issues of running a pro style offense under center may pop up.”

    I don’t get the feeling that Newton works as hard as Tebow, though. And he’s not smart enough to be a good NFL QB. See that ESPN thing with Jon Gruden? He asked for an example of a check route from the Auburn playbook, and Newton looked like he had just been asked to translate The Iliad. There very few dummies coordinating defenses in the NFL; Newton could easily get confused by what he sees.

    69Dawg; I buy that. Belichick is a gaping asshole, and that’s the kind of passive aggressive thing he’s known for.

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  14. goalinestalker

    The biggest question is, who is gonna get all those #15 Bronco jerseys? If he is released it could be worse than the BarBQue in Akron when Lebron bolted to South Beach. I know a ton of UF fans that ran out to buy them. I say give them to all the homeless people.

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  15. Scott

    It is not the job of a college coach to prepare players for NFL systems. Urban Meyer is guilty of nothing on that front.

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    • Dawgfan Will

      True, but he is guilty of misrepresenting the fact that he was helping to prepare Tebow for the NFL. Either that, or Tebow’s preparation just didn’t take.

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    • Cojones

      Correct, sir. He only told him that he would prepare him for NFL systems like all pro-set coaches do when recruiting QBs. If he had come to UGA he would be eating up the NFL with a good team by now.

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