Doesn’t stink as much as you think.

CBSSports‘ Jerry Hinnen, Chip Patterson, Adam Silverstein and Tom Fornelli rank the 66 Power Five head coaches and Mark Richt comes out seventh on the list.

When it comes to Richt, people spend too much time focusing on what he hasn’t done rather than what he has accomplished. The man has coached 184 games with the Bulldogs and he’s won 136 (74 percent) of them. He’s won two SEC titles (the only two Georgia has won in the last 32 years) and six SEC East crowns. The only thing he’s been guilty of has been coaching in a conference that’s been the home of some of the best coaches and teams in the country the last 20 years.  [Emphasis added.]

I’ve said this before:  the biggest problem with people finding fault with Richt is the perception that Georgia is a better program than it has been, historically speaking.

Look at that list and tell me who you think could be drawn to Georgia to improve the program to a level it’s never previously occupied. And why.  Because that’s really what you’re looking for.

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  1. Hogbody Spradlin

    They’re right about one thing. Corch is number 2.

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  2. Otto

    32 years ago was Georgia producing the 4th highest amount of NFL talent?
    Was the SEC the bringing in the money it is now?

    The problem with comparing the past is the landscape has changed. Where was Miami, Florida, FSU, or maybe most comparably South Carolina 32 years ago?

    As we have discussed Richt isn’t the only factor, facilities, assistants, quality control positions, and the willingness to fund these all come into play. I am amazed at how things have changed this off season. I am interested to see if Richt can utilize these changes, and then revisit the candidates conversation later. No candidate is a guaranteed hire but the question is are willing to give up what you have. I have said before UT’s mistake wasn’t firing Fulmer but in the hires they made after. Hire a coach who has HC experience.

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    • Dawg Vegas

      30 years ago the Gators were #1 and on probation when we beat them, Miami had just won their first MNC, and FSU was ranked and building. The ‘cocks were independent and won in Lincoln over a highly ranked Huskers squad

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      • Otto

        Exactly Florida talent changed none of the Florida schools had titles before this.

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        • Dawg Vegas

          Well, my point was the opposite – those schools and others were already established as good/great many years before Richt, and he’s the only one to get a conference championship.

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    • “Hire a coach who has HC experience.”

      Something Georgia has never done.

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  3. Mr. Wrestling II

    I don’t think Richt should be fired but the constant praise for him winning our only 2 conference titles in the last 32 years is ridiculous when you examine it. Richt has been responsible for almost half of that span (14 of the 32 years). Of the remaining 18 years, 7 were the Ray Goff fiasco (he should have never gotten the job as there were much better candidates available), 5 were the Donnan regime, and the other 6 were at the tail end of the Dooley era after he just won 3 in a row (and a national championship).

    Winning 2 conference titles in 14 years at Georgia is not that impressive, especially when you consider that the state of Georgia is not your father’s state of Georgia. It’s also a little irritating to hear this continue to be brought up when we haven’t even won one in a decade.

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    • Which further proves the very point Senator was making.

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      • Mr. Wrestling II

        No it doesn’t.

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        • Dolly Llama

          I think you’re misguided with the point you’re trying to make — my father did, in fact, go to Georgia before I did, and they were seldom worth a shit prior to 1980 — but I do like your posting handle.

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          • Rugbydawg79

            68 team was pretty good so was 76 team that beat Bama 21-0 and played Pitt for MNC–the 78 underdawgs to wonderdawgs-see willie run !
            maybe I am a little older than you.

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            • Dolly Llama

              You are if you remember those. I didn’t say “were never, ever worth a shit.”

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              • The 68 team was not pretty good, it was great. The most balanced team I have ever seen. Half the team was still drunk in the bowl game or we would have crushed Ark. Jake Scott and Bill Stanfill ring a bell? I was just a kid, but will never forget that team.

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                • Russ

                  Agreed. 76, 68, 66, 58, 46, 42. We have had really good teams, but never a continued stretch of greatness. I believe Richt has had us at a higher level consistently than anyone before him, and in a much tougher league.

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            • Bazooka Joe

              Actually back then they were still dogs, not dawgs

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          • Otto

            That is bull… UGA had a Heisman winner played Ivy League schools and was one of the first to reach each of the old Big 4 Bowls all before 1980.

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            • Dolly Llama

              I was responding specifically to the phrase “your father’s Georgia.” My father’s Georgia didn’t win shit the four years he was there. And, yes, this or that team here or there was good or even great. But in the aggregate? Not so much.

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    • PTC DAWG

      so one every 7 years, that is very realistic….

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      • Bob

        In the time Richt has been UGA coach, LSU has won 4 SEC titles, Alabama 3, Auburn 3, Florida 2 and UGA 2. Not the best, but hardly bad.

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        • Mayor

          Note who has NOT won any SEC Championships at all during that period: UT, South Carolina (never won any at all), Ole Miss, Missy State, Vandy, Kentucky, Arkansas. I’m not including Mizzou and aTm because they have only been in the conference for 3 years. UT used to be always in contention, as was Ole Miss in the 50s and 60s until the bottom fell out for them. Arkansas had competitive teams under Nutt and Petrino but never won the SEC Championship. UK won the SEC when Bear Bryant was coach there many moons ago and once in the 60s. If Georgia can win one we’d be right there with Bama, Auburn, LSU plus ahead of FU. I still maintain that the Dawgs could have beaten the Tide in the SECCG if they had managed to get to Atlanta.

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  4. MGW

    Lucky to still have him.

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  5. “Those who pray for your downfall are concentrating negative thoughts towards you, without taking cognisance of the slippery ground in which they are standing, which could lead to their downfall.”
    ― Michael Bassey Johnson

    It is ironic that the whole crowd of voices that were so loud and bombastic are by in large silent now. Jeepers some have been relegated to writing about equestrian events and women’s softball outside the events that happen between the hedges.
    “FIRE MARK RICHT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
    Ray Goof did you ever lose to South Carolina three years in a row?

    Jim Donnan did you ever lose to South Carolina three years in a row?

    MARK RICHT IS THE PROBLEM!

    No matter how good South Carolina ever is they should never beat us more than two times in a decade! I am so ashamed right now!
    If you want to keep Richt after this then you must hate UGA.

    In over a decade Mark Richt has never put a legit top tier O-line on the field.

    Aaron Murray is the most over rated QB in the country.

    MARK RICHT IS STEALING THE UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA’S MONEY AND LAUGHING THE ENTIRE TIME BECAUSE HE KNOWS WE HAVE BOUGHT INTO HIS RELIGION-PIMPING HOOK LINE AND SINKER!

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  6. Scorpio Jones, III

    “perception that Georgia is a better program than it has been, historically speaking.”

    Yessir +2

    And the program is in so much better shape now, and has been for the last 10-12 years than it has ever been in its history.

    The 1980-83 seasons are an illusion. Glad they happened, but they are an aberration in the long history of Georgia football, which has been top of the middle at best.

    Demanding national championships regularly, SEC Championships regularly? Just ain’t in the institutional DNA.

    Sorry if you did not know that going in.

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    • DawgFaithful

      Top of the middle at best? We’re, last I checked, #11 all-time wins. We’re top 5 in bowl appearances, bowl wins. We’re 3rd most SEC championships with 12 behind Bama and Tennessee. That’s not top-middle. That’s top 10-15. That’s bottom of the elite at worst.

      I agree with the Senator here. People forget but when you look at UGA’s lifetime program winning % it’s .648%. Mark Richt’s is .739%.
      You may be tired of hearing about his 2 SEC titles because it’s been a decade since his last but he’s got 2. We’ve only had 12 ever in over 100 years of football and he’s got 2.

      Yes we hit rock bottom in 2010 but since then we’re:
      – 40-14 with a .740 win% last 4 years

      – #13 among power 5 conference teams nationally in wins.

      – 2 SEC East Titles

      We’ve lost some games that we should have won. It could be better but #13 is about right where we should be.

      Yes it’s true that Georgia’s football program is in better shape than it ever has been in it’s history but so is Auburn’s, South Carolina’s, Ole Miss’s, LSU’s ect. It’s all relative to where your program is compared to your rival’s program.

      His #6 ranking is accurate and unless we can get one of #’s 1-5, I dont want to change.

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      • Scorpio Jones, III

        OK, DF, since Richt took over, we have gone from the middle to the bottom of the top. I agree.

        And it would be, in hommage to Larry, not a bad time to suggest anyone who is unhappy with the current state of Dawgdom to look at where the University of Tennessee was say….20 years ago, and where they are now.

        Almost as if a parallel universe has been turned on its head.

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    • Bazooka Joe

      Depends on how you are looking at it…. from a national perspective – yes we are top tier of the middle tier. Regionally – we are actually tied (I think ? or maybe 1 behind LSU ?) for 2nd place in number of SEC titles (nobody will catch Bama for #1). So regionally Id say we are top tier.

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  7. Chuck

    Richt may not not be the best coach, but I wouldn’t rather have Patterson or Stoops, and the only reason I’d take Miles or Spurrier is purely for the entertainment factor. Corch might be a better coach, but I wouldn’t want him because, well, Corch.

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  8. Denver94

    In terms of realistic possibilities, anyone other than Gary Patterson would be a step down…although Chris Peterson could probably give it a decent run as Smaller Mark Richt.

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  9. DawgFlan

    I see the imperfections (mainly being slow to change/adapt), but remain an unabashed Richt fan. I prefer him to most of the others higher up on the list. Maybe Gary Patterson? 1) I don’t see him ever leaving that part of the country, 2) He’s had some stinker years to balance out the “over-achiever” years, 3) Love the defense but the Air Raid not so much…

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  10. gatorhater27

    Yeah, but Richt hasn’t had a QB win a championship in 9 years and Mettenberger is awesome. Or something like that. Thank you for banning that troll (again.)

    As for the list, I’d flip Richt and Jimbo, and I’d also probably drop Big Game Bob out of the top 5. Also, they’ve got the Oregon coach way too high. Let’s see a more complete body of work before anointing him a top 15 coach.

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    • Ed nauseam Dawg (aka W Cobb Dawg)

      If Ed weren’t banned, and/or taken away by men in white coats, he might respond something like this:

      Richt is definitely hiding something from us about the current 3 man QB race. Why would he give one QB 31 reps, while giving the other QBs 26 reps? Its a conspiracy! A CONSPIRACEEEY!!!

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  11. I do not think we can do better than Richt. I think what frustrates people is the fact that we have recruited in the top 10 the last 10 years and everyone else at that elite level has won a NC. We have not even appeared in the NC game. I don’t think we should fire Richt, but would sure as hell like to at least get to the big game.

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    • Russ

      I agree, but my response to that is that it takes a large dose of luck to get to the MNC game. Florida got there in 2006 because a shitty UCLA team beat USC the last week of the season and the pollsters jumped UF over Michigan. In 2007, when the exact same scenario happened for us, the Herbstreit doctrine was invoked and we got shafted. 2002 team was MNC worthy, but there were two undefeated teams ahead of us. 2012 was 5 yards short.

      Look at the other teams that won MNCs during that time and several of them had the chips magically fall their way at the end of the season. For some reason we haven’t had that luck (yet).

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  12. The commenters on the linked post on the CBS sports site make AUC blog commenters look like Albert Einstein, William Shakespeare, and Vince Lombardi all rolled up into one. What is it about Ohio State commenters that make themselves appear to be borderline illiterate?

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    • That effect is borne from the simple fact that they ARE mostly illiterate. As evidence I present the lion’s share of ESPN football talkers (at least 6 of whom boldly and publicly profess their aOSU creed).

      These guys are preaching in platitudes to the unwashed CFB masses. And in a low form too.

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  13. Timphd

    Richt’s biggest problem in my opinion is that of the six guys rated higher than him, four are from, or at least in Corch’s case used to be, SEC coaches. He has had the misfortune of competing against some of the best minds in college football within his own conference, most of whom, okay all of whom, have fewer ethics and/or more institutional support than he has had. I am interested to see if what appears to be a real change in the institutional support side will help him get that MNC and more SEC championships. Even if it doesn’t I am proud of him and am glad he is my coach.

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    • Richt’s biggest problem in my opinion is that of the six guys rated higher than him, four are from, or at least in Corch’s case used to be, SEC coaches.

      Richt’s elevated the program. But those other coaches elevated theirs more.

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      • AusDawg85

        Wasn’t just the coaches doing the elevating. Booster and admin support were far more involved at FL, LSU, Bama and Auburn. Hard contracts with the devil also helped them…wonder when ours expires for Herschel?

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      • Gurkha Dawg

        And that is the real and only ligit knock on Richt.

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  14. UGA85

    I look at things a bit differently. Given our resources and proximity to Atlanta and in state talent, we should demand more than what we have achieved. And why is the past always brought up as an excuse for our coach? Should UF not have hired Spurrier or Meyer because they had never been a football power? FSU and Bowden? South Carolina? Baylor, Oregon, Michigan State, TCU and others? Traditions are created by those who desire excellence in the present, not by those who are handcuffed by past failings. Winning championships requires a “why not us?” optimistic, aggressive push to the top mentality. And when I ask that question at UGA, it seems more and more that we want to selectively list past failings and excuses instead of critically assessing our current state in the SEC.

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    • And why is the past always brought up as an excuse for our coach?

      It’s not an excuse; it’s the reality of Georgia football.

      And the reason it matters is because if you want to lift the program past the level Richt has it at now, you’d better come up with a different approach than what got you here.

      Now it may be that we’re starting to see the first indications of such a change with what’s gone on this offseason. And if that’s the case, there should be two ramifications from that: (1) Richt should be held to a higher standard because he’s been given greater resources with which to work; and (2) the school can make a good case, if that doesn’t work and Richt leaves, that the next coach will have the kind of institutional support needed to compete at the highest level in the SEC.

      But I’ll wait to see how that plays out before making any grand pronouncements. B-M has certainly disappointed me before.

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    • DawgFlan

      I get what you are saying, but it’s not a resignation to the past. It’s a reality of UGA’s institutional DNA. To ‘demand more’ requires an AD and University leadership with the same vision, and across the board support in line with the demand. I’ve been very encouraged with the progress on this front over the last few months, but let’s be honest, UGA will never go “all in” to the same extent some other SEC schools have over the last 10 years.

      On a semi-unrelated note: I have an Emory professor friend who likes to describe Emory as “once a liberal arts college with a medical school, but now a healthcare system with a college on the side,” and as a liberal arts professor he’s not really upset by the changes. The healthcare “cash cow” has brought security, power, and prestige to the school overall.

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      • And included in “University leadership,” in this context, is the UGA President, the Board of Regents, and possibly the state legislature. Seriously, to bring our level of institutional support near that of Alabama or LSU, we’d need a sea change in all those areas.

        While the recent changes within Butts-Mehre appear to be a step in the right direction, they are just a step.

        And until Georgia’s athletic department is operating on more equal footing with its regional rivals across the board (including with regard to its drug-testing policy, its relationship with local law enforcement, and its discipline policy in general), I’m not holding my breath waiting for the championships to start rolling in year after year.

        Any new coach who accepted the job would be forced to deal with the same unique set of self-imposed roadblocks, and I have a hard time imagining anyone navigating that as well as Richt has.

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  15. Mayor

    I think most of you have missed the point about why there is so much antipathy toward Mark Richt out there. It isn’t that games have been lost–sometimes really big and important games. People can take losses if their team played well and just got out-played. It is HOW the games were lost. First, there is the annual (sometimes more) game where the Dawgs lose to an inferior opponent by simply not showing up ready to play. As bad as those were the ones that really gall folks are games where victory is in the Dawgs’ grasp only to have the win kicked away at the end by an outright stupid coaching decision. That fuels the perception that the team is good enough but CMR is actually holding back the program. I have been as critical as any poster on this blog about the second type. However, I am also convinced that the guy responsible for most of those game-losing end of game decisions is in Ft. Collins now. So let’s give CMR a season or 2 to see if the problem persists. I’m thinking that one is cured but let’s wait and see. The not showing up problem has to be on CMR though as it has existed since before anyone else on the staff was there except Richt.

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    • Patrick

      I don’t agree with this, and I think it’s a very common mistake from the fringe fan.
      When you are a mid-to-top tier member of a Power 5 conference, literally almost every loss will fall into the category of:
      1) Losing to inferior team by not being ready to play
      2) Losing a close game due to a perceived coaching decision

      There is no good way to lose a game. Even with SECCG 2012 (which is the closest you can get to a “good” loss, many fans screamed that it fell under category #2 above, due to Spikegate).

      Every legit SEC program has just as many losses that fall into these categories – you just don’t realize it because you aren’t as emotionally invested in those programs.

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      • Mayor

        I can see that you are a genius, Patrick and since I am only a “fringe fan” please, in your munificence, allow me to humbly retort. When did a team score the winning TD in the game with only 30 seconds left on the clock, then “pooch” the kick-off thereby allowing the opponent to get the ball to midfield and then run 1 play to get into FG range–then call a timeout for the opponent to set up because the opponent was out of TOs–then have the opponent kick a FG to get into OT, ultimately winning the game in OT? I would venture to say that has never happened before in the SEC to any team, and likely never happened before in the history of CFB. Your analysis above is total FOS. https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A0LEVinrqR1VIhYA1p8nnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTB0dmRibmhwBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwMV8x?p=adam+sandler+stupider+for+having+heard+it+youtube+movie&tnr=21&vid=6DAF086034ADEA6586FF6DAF086034ADEA6586FF&l=32&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DUN.607995046954798917%26pid%3D15.1&sigi=11r50cmj0&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DC3JzbWVDzac&sigr=11buuc2jv&tt=b&tit=Billy+Madison+-+%26quot%3BEveryone+in+this+room+is+now+dumber+for+…&sigt=121h4e83g&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fyhs%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dadam%2Bsandler%2Bstupider%2Bfor%2Bhaving%2Bheard%2Bit%2Byoutube%2Bmovie%26ei%3DUTF-8%26hsimp%3Dyhs-001%26hspart%3Dmozilla&sigb=143m5vs76&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

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        • Patrick

          That came out wrong, I guess. Wasn’t intending to call you fringe fan. Just that all fringe fans share the sentiment that Richt has the market cornered on bonehead ways to lose. Many non-fringe surely have that view, as well.

          My point was that I don’t believe Richt has that market cornered.
          All other schools have comparable losses to UGA/Tech 2014 and UGA/Florida 2014.
          Saban with Kick-Six and Utah Sugar Bowl come to mind. Ask a fan of every other major program, and they can all cite similar examples.

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          • Mayor

            Your point is well made in this respect, Patrick: All coaches have screw-ups that lose games, no matter how good the coach is. The Kick-Six game is a good example of a Saban screw-up, and he is arguably the best college coach over the last 6 or so years. But it is the number, length of the period it has been going on, and frequency of Georgia’s end of game screw-ups during the CMR era that is so troubling. Sometimes it is an extremely nuanced playcall mistake that most fans wouldn’t even notice. Other times it has been an obviously knucklehead decision, like the 2014 GT game pooch kick-off, or running the ball when Georgia had no timeouts on first and goal allowing the clock to run out at the end of the 2001 Auburn-Georgia game. But that has been the consistent theme of CMR’s tenure at Georgia–the end of game decision that loses a game that should have been won. If not for those losses and the failure to show up ready to play about once a season Georgia would have won multiple SECCGs and BCSNCGs, CMR would have a record better than Urban Myer, and he would be hailed as the best coach in America. What’s amazing to me is that he has won so many games while having this problem–either himself or on his staff. I reiterate, I think the mistake at the end of the game problem has been caused by Bobo for the most part. Usually–not always– it was on offense. The pooch kick-off was CMR’s call. He admitted it post game.

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            • Patrick

              Every close loss will have several “woulda coulda” moments. UGA/Tech 2014 is a bit of an outlier to that extreme, just as the Kick-Six game is an outlier for Saban.

              But UGA/USC 2014 is simply a run-of-the-mill close loss. It happens to every team, and it will continue to happen with Schottenheimer as OC.
              Saban lost to Johnny Football because he chose to pass it 4 times on 1st-and-goal late. (passing on 1st-and-goal sound familiar?). Miles team didn’t show up against an inferior Arkansas and got blown out. Malzahn team didn’t show up against a UGA team that had just gotten waxed by crummy Florida. Pinkel team wasn’t ready to play at home vs. UGA last year. Paul Johnson team wasn’t ready to play at home vs. crummy UGA in Ealey/King game. The list is endless.

              The only reason Bama fans don’t harp on that Johnny Football game is because they have SEC titles and NCAA titles sprinkled throughout.

              We can all hope to reduce the overall quantity of losses and increase the SEC titles. That’s the ultimate goal.
              But if you’re hoping to somehow make the close losses less agonizing, I think you’re going to be disappointed.
              Or, I guess Richt could try to repeat 2011 every year – get blown out by the only 2 very good teams we play, and beat everyone else. But that wasn’t particularly enjoyable either, and I don’t think that would end the criticism.

              Just win the SEC more. That’s all he can do. Nothing else matters.

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              • Mayor

                I think we are not really that far apart in our thinking except for 1 thing: All coaches make an end of game mistake that loses a game every now and then. The problem is that CMR’s staff (or he himself) does it regularly. In 2010 there were 4 such end of game idiot decisions that took the team from what should have been a 10 win season to 6-7. I’ll leave it up to you to figure out which 4 games. 🙂

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        • … and may I humbly declaim that this is why I sidle up to this blog; so I can be regaled with words whose definitions I forgot: to wit, munificence. I love that.

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    • I certainly hope what you say is not true. If it is, it means Richt is an incompetent HC ( general manager ). A huge part of a HC’s job is to install the best OC and DC he can hire and insure they are doing the highest quality job possible. If Bobo were consistently making game losing decisions at the end of games and these were not identified and corrected, then Richt is doing a terrible job. Bobo should have been replaced long ago if that were true. Either way, Richt is “captain of the ship” and is responsible.

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  16. W Cobb Dawg

    “..the biggest problem with people finding fault with Richt is the perception that Georgia is a better program than it has been, historically speaking.”

    Problem is, brother Bluto, we have a ‘good’ history, but could’ve had a ‘great’ history. Every season there’s the implied promise that we’ll get that brass ring, but we always find ways to screw up. One can call it bad luck, lack of greater effort, or missed opportunities. If CMR were to retire without a championship, I think people would say something like ‘he was good, but he could’ve been great.’ And I believe that’s how a lot of fans see our program, myself included.

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    • Mayor

      ^^This. If Georgia had run the ball on first and goal from the 4 near the end of last year’s UGA-USCe game, and not done the pooch-kickoff, plus call a TO to let GT kicker comfortably set up for the longest kick of his career, UGA would have finished the regular season 11-1, played in the SECCG and, if the Dawgs won that, would have been in the playoff for the NC. The Dawgs always lose at least one game per year in the stupidest fashion possible–that’s what keeps the Dawgs from greatness, not lack of talent.

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  17. AusDawg85

    I’d take Les or Patterson, but don’t see how they push the bar past Richt without some looser compliance / discipline rules. So the truth of the matter is that Richt’s replacement is coming from the assistant level (and therefore likely no HC experience) or from a non-Power 5 conference. In other words…an experiment. Bobo, Pruitt and possibly Schotty certainly have something to shoot for.

    This is the point the 15%er’s just can’t / won’t grasp. I support CMR because he is clearly the best chance we have to get an SEC title and playoff appearance. Our shortcomings are not just caused by the HC, and changing HC’s to someone clearly not (yet) at Richt’s level is not the path to improvement. The steps needed have been taken this off-season. They need to continue. Glass is definitely half full…have a sip of the Kool-aid and enjoy the ride rather than keep hoping to be “proven” correct that Richt is not the best we can do.

    That ain’t Disney, that’s your realism.

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  18. DE 'Dog

    Spurrier seems to beat us most every year. He gets the most out of what he’s got when they play us.

    Start beating Spurrier like we should beat South Carolina (that is, like a drum), and a lot of good things will start to happen.

    Richt doesn’t seem to grasp it that Spurrier-led teams can be expected to be prepared, ready, and sky-high when we’re on the schedule. Maybe he’s beginning to (I hope!).

    The other two losses last year are, in a word, inexplicable.

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    • If Spurrier does it this year, he is a magician. He has less game experience at QB than we do. I don’t think Richt “doesn’t seem to grasp it.” USCe from ’10-’13 is the best run in the history of South Carolina football. We lost to some good Gamecock teams during that time.

      Even when South Carolina sucked, they considered the Georgia game their 2nd most important on the schedule. We get their best shot regardless of who coaches them.

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      • Mayor

        Sorry ee, but Spurrier did it last year with a team that probably was worse than the team he’ll field this year.

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        • I’m purely going off QB experience. One of his WRs has more passing attempts than any of his QBs. He’ll have them ready to play. He doesn’t have a Dylan Thompson (who played out of his mind against us last year) or Connor Shaw on this roster at this point.

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  19. Argondawg

    Dantonio should be ahead of Brian Kelly other than that the list is pretty spot on.

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  20. UGA85

    I do want the program to be better than it is. I hope that most here want more than two SEC titles in 14 years, none in 9 years, while 4 other teams in the SEC win national titles. I feel that most here don’t want to see Missouri and SC winning the East ahead of us any longer. We should be better than we have been. Having said that, change is a good thing, and I think the off-season changes are a positive step. Can Pruitt help make us physical and tough again? Will we be fit and less injury prone? Can we aggressively overcome our tendency to simply not show up for big games? I honestly hope that the changes we have made will be enough. But, if not, more changes should be made. Our contentment with being second best must be overcome.

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  21. Rebar

    I thought I read on here, or maybe somewhere else, that Spurrier told Richt not to take the Georgia job all those years ago. If one of the best coaches in the SEC felt that way about Georgia in 2000, how can you not respect the job Richt has done! Yeah, we haven’t got there yet, but we’re on the way. And I don’t think Spurrier told Richt not to take the Georgia job because of Georgia whipping his butt when he was in college, but because he truly felt the Georgia administration was not supportive of the program.

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  22. Red Cup

    I disagree with Mayor’S comment that fans will be ok with a loss if we play well. Reasonable people would be ok, but not the fan-atics who think every play should be a TD and we should always win.
    I do see a major change in B-M since 2 changes : the hire of CJP and the end of the Fuck Adams reign. CMR has more resources and I am optimistic for better days ahead. I like him and hope he can make it happen. Go Dawgs

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    • I’m never “ok” with a loss even when we play well. I may accept a loss if we play well, but I’ll never say it’s ok. I can think of some losses where the team laid it all on the line and lost, and I felt like I could accept the loss:

      UF 1993 in the rain – that team and, in particular, Eric Zeier fought for 60 minutes and came up just short
      UT 1995 – The game where Edwards broke his foot on that “damned rug” in Knoxville while he was running over and through the UT defense
      LSU 2003 (regular season) – 60 minutes of absolute physical football where neither team deserved to lose in Red Stick
      Bama 2012 – no one gave us a chance against the Tide, and I still say this was TG3II’s finest hour in a Bulldog uniform
      Auburn 2013 – disappointed in how we lost, but the team never quit. This night was Aaron Murray’s finest in a Bulldog uniform

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