Because he got reamed harder there yesterday than the most brutal take down at a Georgia football fan message board you might read.
First, Ari Wasserman ($$) took notice of Mullen’s comment about not discussing recruiting at yesterday’s presser.
Some will say Mullen was in a bad mood and got caught with the Monday blues. But at a college football powerhouse — one that expects to be winning the SEC and national titles — there are no bad days. Recruiting is life.
“Mullen is an embarrassment to the recruiting profession,” a Power 5 recruiting staffer with deep knowledge of the SEC told The Athletic on Monday afternoon. “Mullen has shown a propensity to be clueless with why recruiting is so important, and this just adds to what is already known out there: He doesn’t get it. By ‘it,’ I mean he doesn’t understand what it takes to be an elite program. Kirby was 100 percent correct.”
Notice how the recruiting staffer said “the recruiting profession.” That’s what coaching is in 2021. It’s recruiting and then coaching. Without recruiting, as Smart said, it doesn’t matter how good of a coach you are. You’re never winning a national title because you’re an X’s and O’s guru.
This, of course, only comes as a shock to your average Daily Gator whose been insisting for years that he wouldn’t trade coaches with Georgia.
But the real pièce de résistance comes from this brutal takedown at the hands of Bruce Feldman and Allen Taylor ($$). The quotes are so rough you’d think Tommy Tuberville was still coaching at Auburn. A sample:
“Florida, they just don’t play hard,” said an SEC East coach. “… You watch UF on tape. They’ve got skill but they’re not physical.”
“They play with zero discipline,” said one SEC offensive coach whose team faced the Gators this season. “They don’t play hard.”
“We were more physical and much better than them in the box,” said another SEC offensive coach. “We were mauling them.”
“We thought going in that it was going to be one of the best defenses we faced,” said an SEC offensive coach. “But they just weren’t physical. They don’t look motivated. Not fired up. No juice.”
“Last year, we thought these guys were soft on the O-line but they had skill guys — (Kyle) Pitts and (Kadarius) Toney and weapons. We thought they were more physical up front, but then you play them and they’re just not a tough team. They just don’t finish. They don’t strain.”
Which is worse, no juice or fake juice? Eh, I digress, probably. There’s definitely a common theme through those quotes. The new Florida Standard.
Anyway, here’s the quote that should serve as Mullen’s epigraph, if that day ever comes:
“Georgia is trying to take your soul the way they play the game,” said one of the SEC East coaches. “That’s not how Florida plays.”
It looks like Dan’s gonna need a bigger transfer portal.
Let me venture a guess here:
Coach 1: Beamer
Coach 2: Someone at Kentucky
Coach 3: Someone at LSU
Coach 4: Back to Kentucky
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Definitely Beamer and LSU
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Beamer is incapable of STFU.
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Two of the best articles I ever read on that website. Easily worth my $1.
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Agreed, makes it worth that auto renewal they sprung on me unawares earlier this year. Well done Athletic.
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I didn’t renew and then they offered me $20 for the whole year. Which I gladly accepted.
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Yeah, I’d pay a dollar for a year of TA’s generalities and conjectures. When are they running that special again?
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Staples killed MuLLLLet on his SEC podcast with Ubben this morning. I don’t think Dopey/Goofy’s peers like him very much.
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He’s an arrogant jerk who has no goodwill built up.
Sometimes you need someone willing to write some good words for you to smooth things over. If you treat people like crap, no one is coming to the rescue.
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Gatriguy, you hit the nail on the head. What’s really blown me away, as I’ve read these kinds of articles the past couple days, is how little respect the rest of the coaching profession (in the SEC at least) appears to have for Mullen. It’s not so much about what these coaches are criticizing but the tone they’re using. As much as SEC coaches surely despise Saban for beating them all the time, you’d NEVER hear them talking about him or one of his teams this way. Ditto Kirby, probably, nor even guys like Pittman or Stoops (whose programs aren’t exactly juggernauts but who make the most of the talent they have and conduct themselves with integrity).
Mullen, though, has pissed more than just UGA fans off with the way he’s run his mouth. And now that it’s becoming clear that that mouth was writing checks his team couldn’t cash, his fellow coaches are expressing how they really feel about the guy, with no punches pulled. Your program can get by if its coach isn’t feared necessarily, but if he’s not even respected, you’re in a tailspin it’s hard to pull out of.
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Godfrey shits all over Mullen ever chance he gets. I think a lot of the dislike in the coaching community stems from the Leo Lewis situation, both for being a snitch, and also for hanging one of his own players out to dry like that.
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A few years back in mullen florida year one or two, one ananymous sec coach said Mullen was really smart. They said the problem is that he wants everyone to know how smart he is and he overreaches with his plan trying to show everyone he’s so smart and it backfires on him.
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Personally, I think part of the disrespect is rooted in that most of these guys know the potential of the Florida job. They know that a Florida team that is bringing in good to great recruiting classes and developing them to its full potential should be a juggernaut. PLUS all of these coaches are aware that FSU & Miami are not operating anywhere close to their full potential either.
Mullen, with his SEC experience and his prior connections at Florida, should have a juggernaut at his disposal each week. These guys know that it is not anywhere close to where it should be.
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Staples did the same thing in an article today, basically saying that if Mullen doesn’t like the pressure of having to recruit and play to win national championships, perhaps he should consider a school where that is not the standard….like Chip Kelly did at UCLA.
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Did their podcast change again? I subscribed to Football and Grits but they haven’t released a new episode since August.
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You have to get it through the Andy Staples podcast feed. They still call the episode Football and Grits.
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Now, all this cheap talk about the FU hc is new NEWS, real hard hitting click bait, it’s all worth getting outta’ bed to write this drivel, better than fresh road kill…the FU hc has been like this and always will be, it’s his modus operandi, which makes the FU hc a coordinator at best (at any level) surely not the top man at a top institution (not saying FU is)…don’t be upset with the clown, be upset with yourselves for following that dick wad down that dark street with no street lights on…#FTMF
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DIW, tell us what you really think 😉
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Wish Kirby would chill with the comments. Would like to keep Sideshow Dan around.
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Post of the day!
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This. Everyone but Dan knew his recruiting was bad.
/s
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Nah I’m ok with it. Give him his moment to make a point about coaching since he had to hear it all last year that Mullen outcoached him with inferior players. To use an analogy, Kirby constructed a fine tuned Porsche to compete in formula 1. He looks over to Mullen’s 50’s hot rod and say’s you ain’t gonna compete with that. Dan needs to start over and that program is a long way from building a Porsche.
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Keep Dan?!?! Shit, I wanna keep Grantham!!
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Actually it was floridas offense that killed them against us, not their defense. But I do agree, keep Grantham…. and Mullen…..
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After I read both of those yesterday, I ventured to their 247 board. Turned out that I enjoy Gator tears and angst more than I thought. I highly recommend it if you have an hour or three to kill.
https://247sports.com/college/florida/board/14/Contents/the-athletic-with-quotes-on-uf-174317220/?page=1
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Oof… Brutal on Cox’s play. Everyone seems to agree he’s the prime example of “soft” players referenced by SEC coaches.
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Which is why he is no longer wearing Red and Black. The description of the UGA defense when contrasting Florida in that article is very telling.
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These are the same people that built Cox up in their minds to be some elite 5 star future 1st round draft choice even though he was barely 3rd string at UGA.
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One thing I was really looking forward to was watching their #1 quit on plays and take plays off. I laughed when he gave up pursuit of Stet in the backfield in the first quarter and Stet when for 20. Laughed, I tell you. Cox defines the difference between Georgia and Florida right now: at UGA you are going to work, compete, and fight; at UF, you can take it easy and rest on your laurels. Only, there are no laurels at the end of the race.
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You may be a 5 star, but at UGA there is another 5 star (or at least very high 4 star) right behind you wanting to take your job. He’s motivated because he has the same behind him. At FU, You are a 4 star with a 2 maybe 3 star behind you trying to push that Dopey Dan is going to coach up.
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Thanks for the link SK. It’s brings joy to my soul to see them eating their own.
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It is a guilty pleasure
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Hey, Slob, gator tears actually make a really good brine for pickles. Yummy!
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Thanks for posting, Slobber. I thoroughly enjoyed the comments. Especially the ones where the poster would doubt the credibility of the writer or outright say no other coaches said that.
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My favorite post…denial…lol.
“There’s no way those are real quotes from SEC coaches” Gators7412
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I loved this quote –
“The part that hit me hardest was in the comments with UGA fans wanting Mullen to stay forever. That comment finally pushed me over the edge to say Mullen has to go. While I think we get some staff changes, we don’t get the level of turnover we need and I’m not confident we get replacements that will matter.
Someone get Billy Napier or Bill Clark on the line.”
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Every second of reading that thread was pure joy. hahahaha
My god, I hope they keep Dan Mullen forever.
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Where these writers been? This ain’t new about Mullen — unless you bought into his genius.
Last year he’s Lombardi; this year he’s Chizik. They don’t even follow the sport but just wait for someone beats them over the head with an angle to take. Hack.
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Yeah, where are all the writers who were telling us Florida was the “real” SEC East threat to watch this year? I should’ve saved the links to those articles…..
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You don’t even have to go back a year. They played Bama close and that was a “win” according to every sports writer on the planet.
After that Bama game they had other famous one liners like: Mullen is the smartest coach in America, Worlds best play caller, An offensive Genius.
There is probably some dope that was even working on putting Mullen on the cover of Time magazine as the greatest person on the planet…
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I cancelled my Athletic subscription and all I got were endless emails begging me to come back….
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I love gator tears week.
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I’m not going to get whiplash snapping my head right to left because these writers suddenly discovered Dopey the dipshit clown sucks, like W wrote above, nothing is new about Mullllen…he’s been consistently mediocre all along. FTMFS…I mean the FU program supporters and the shitty sports media
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“Georgia is trying to take your soul the way they play the game,” said one of the SEC East coaches. “That’s not how Florida plays.”
Excuse me while I go take a shower.
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Kind of going along with that quote….
I think I said this before a while back in a comment, but I’ll say it again…
There seems to be no argument out there that Georgia is not the number one team in the land. But in my mind the proof of their greatness so far is not in their record or statistics but simply because if you polled all FBS coaches — and IF they had to answer this question truthfully: “Which team would you least like to face in a CFP game?” I think Georgia would be unanimous at this point.
And I have to admit there is something satisfying that Georgia is intimidating coaches through defensive play more than anything. The old maxim “defense wins championships” may not necessarily be true any more as far as it goes. But “a soul-stealing defense wins championships” may be….. time will tell.
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UGA’s defense is ruining opposing teams. DJU is still scared our DL is about to hit him.
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This has been another glorious week for Mullen!!
#FTMF
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I wish you all would leave Dan Mullen alone. He is probably the most misunderstood coach in America. The man is a football guru, and should have a massive contract extension and buy out. Florida can’t afford to lose this national treasure to the NFL. I look forward to CKS coaching against him for many years to come.
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The Athletic pieces have been absolutely brutal. I have no love for the gators, but Feldman and Taylor’s piece where they provided endless quotes from anonymous coaches criticizing Florida would have to be the most difficult thing Mullen has ever read in his life. I can’t imagine reading the opinion of your peers publicly like that. Absolutely brutal.
The media has been such a shit show on Mullen from the beginning. They deserve as much blame as he does, maybe more. They maintained the bizarre narrative that he was some kind of magical coach that could transcend all other aspects of the HC job by simply calling “great plays” and performing player development alchemy with low-rated players. It was always pure fantasy with no support at all in terms of on-field results.
The talent gap didn’t happen overnight in Jacksonville. This has been 3+ years in the making. Mullen never replaced the talent he was handed from McElwain. The time bomb has been there for a while. This week the media decided to finally let it explode, and there is nothing else newsworthy right now to distract from it.
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I’ve wondered all this time how Urban Meyer missed on Scam Newton and played Tebow instead. It was Mullen who missed. At some point early, Tebow and Newton were compared with each other and somebody said Tim was the better qb. Anybody still believe that?
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I get your point, but I don’t think that from a college QB perspective it is outright clear that Cam was better than Tebow. As much as it pains me to say it, Tebow was an incredible college QB with numerous NCAA records, a Heisman, a natty, back to back Maxwell Awards (first time that happened), etc. I would go so far as to say that if I had the choice between dirtbag, pouting, front-runner Cam and Tim I would have taken Tim every day.
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I agree about Tebow. But as incoming freshmen, no one could have predicted Tebow’s trajectory. Or Newton’s , for that matter. I don’t think Tim would have out-shown Newton at any point in their first year. Sure, big heart and great leader. But the physical attributes Newton brought were far greater than Tebow’s at any time in their presence of Mullen.
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Cam made the decision for them when he jumped out of the dorm window and some dude’s laptop accidentally fell with him. Allegedly.
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I think the only time Mullen missed on Cam is when his bagman at MSU got outbid by the one from Auburn.
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Cam was full of himself and a discipline problem (even by Meyer’s standards) the moment he hit Hogstown. The players didn’t like him and didn’t try to get him off the hook for the computer thing. They didn’t care if you threatened your girlfriend, killed people or whatever. the unpardonable sin was to not ball out.
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Yesterday was the best Monday I’ve had in some time, as every time I opened The Athletic to read what they were offering, I feasted upon article after article burying Señor Mullen ever deeper.
FTMF
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Taking Brenton Cox after he quit UGA and thinking he was going to be a world beater tells you all you need to know about the mentality of the gator program. He half asses it in everything except pass rush (which he half asses if he doesn’t immediately get to the qb). They so deserve each other.
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“Do you know wat that makes Cox? Larry…”
“Lollygagger.”
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So who’s Nuke and who’s Crash in this story?
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Not sure but I know those baseball bats scattered all over the shower floor are Dan Mullen hit pieces by the media.
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“What’s our record? Todd???”
“4 and 4, coach”
“4. And. 4….my God how did we ever win 4?”
“It’s a mystery…”
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Yup…. After all those a$$ whooping in the 90’s, the shoe is finally on the other foot and instantaneous. Have thoroughly enjoyed reading the UF meltdown. Kirby has gone from a goof that can only recruit and can’t coach to a relentless recruiter, who is clearly developing talent and with a top notch coaching staff almost overnight in Gainesville… And Mullen has gone from the closest to Spurrier that they could get to dopey dan inside of a couple of weeks.
Enjoyed every second of it… Karma baby… Karma…
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Maaaannn… why did they all have to say the quiet part out loud???
Why don’t want Cousin Eddie to get fired… ever!!!
I mean, we know it’s gonna happen, probably after next season, but we definitely don’t want the pressure to ratchet up so much and the obvious to be stated so clearly to make people with power in Floriduh really start to think about things!
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I think it is wonderful. If Grantham and the defensive staff are the sacrificial lambs after this season and Mullen is on the hot seat next season, that just ensures further chaos and turmoil in Gainesville for 2022 and at least into 2023 and probably 2024 and 2025. Another ho-hum recruiting class this year (in comparison with other SEC teams), and if the UF job becomes open after the 2022 season (and the ensuing likely mediocre recruiting class next year as well), the UF job is much more of a rebuilding job than when Kirby came to Athens. From a long-game perspective, I love that people are now openly talking about this stuff. Keep hurting UF’s recruiting classes and things get that much more difficult for them for the next four or five years.
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Regarding the importance of recruiting – Nick Saban said once that when he had his interview with Mal Moore for the Alabama job, Saban said: Just remember I’m not worth a durn without good players. Moore wisely replied: That’s what I was hoping you’d say.
Regarding Florida players not playing hard: Mullen cannot deal with adversity; he’s gone into depression. Result: he’s lost the team; they don’t care anymore.
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I thought it was “You just hired a shit coach, but nobody is going to out-recruit me.”
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If that doesn’t put a big ol’ smile on your face, nothing will.
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I spent 12 years as a director in the entertainment industry before moving on to other ventures. 70% of producing a good production is casting. Recruiting in football is similar to casting (or hiring in general). A director like a coach can compensate for some shortcomings; but you can’t compensate for talent. Inferior talent will give you an inferior production. Inferior recruiting will give you an inferior product on the field. If that is a concept that you’re unwilling or unable to recognize, then you shouldn’t be in any kind of management position..
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The UF AD has Jimmy Sexton on speed dial and a coaching search firm has already been hired. Not a question of if, but when.
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I’ll just throw this out there….
I think Mullen has just kind of gotten lazy. I think he used to be a much better coach than he is right now.
We tend to think of people as static, as if they’re a known quantity forever. It leads to stupid conversations where Side A says, “This dude’s is a great coach because of what he did 15 years ago (or last year?)!” And Side B responds with something like, “No, the dude has always sucked — just look at what he’s done (or failed to do) this year!”
Maybe both sides are wrong. Maybe the dude used to be great, but once he reached the pinnacle (an HC position at a major P5 program) he just started to coast?
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I’ve never been that big of a MuLLLLen fan. He beat CMR in 2010 when AJ Green was suspended. The next year we pasted the Bizarro Dogs in Athens. He caught lightning in a bottle in 2014, still didn’t win the west and got beaten soundly by Fish Fry. I wanted him nowhere near the controls of the Georgia program when CMR was let go in 2015. Kirby pulled his pants down in 2017 in a game that wasn’t as close as the final score indicated. Still remember Trask never sees the field while in Hogtown if Franks doesn’t get hurt.
He’s overrated and I hope Scott Stricklin has Mississippi State expectations for the Hogtown Handbags for a long time.
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To be clear…. I think Mullen is a goober.
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No problem – I just don’t think he’s that great of a head coach.
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Jared, your comment about people not being static holds true for players also, not just coaches.
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Very true!
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This from Swamp Talk 24/7
“Does Dopey D take a page out of Brian Kelly’s ’16-’17 playbook?”
Even the TURDS have taken to calling him Dopey Dan!
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